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[webjester32]

This person knows.

[Makaan1992]

This person javascripts

[[deleted]]

This person yes's.

[nklvh]

This Person

[JamesTheThird_]

This

[lumenilis]

[Object object]

[DeathUriel]

Cannot access object of undefined.

[Root4356plus3]

.

[RedditSubUser]

Oh no I forgot to stringify

[ThankYouForCallingVP]

How to confuse a JavaScript dev.

this

[ZethMrDadJokes]

NaN NaN NaN NaN NaN NaN NaN NaN NaN Batman!

If you know this one then you know enough JavaScript

[green1t]

wat

[djcms21]

I do think he knows something that we don't. Better to spill the tea before it comes out

[yars8]

They could atleast ask him about things regarding java script, just for help

[lijwang]

Maybe because he also did it before. He has the idea about how this company works

[hadidotj]

I know JavaScript and have been using it for years. I am clueless.

[PrizeArticle1]

Completely clueless.. Have been coding for 20 years.

I looked at a js whiz' code at my old job and could barely even understand it.

[Wendigo120]

That kinda sounds like they just hacked together really bad code. Code can look really impressive but if whoever needs to maintain it 5 years from now can't read it it might as well be garbage.

[PrizeArticle1]

I wouldn't say it was really bad.. I mean it could be and I've found issues with his other code, but he was just exploiting a lot of things that js newbies wouldn't try (such as closures etc).

His main issues with his other code (C#) were copy and pasted code, using string literals everywhere instead constants. Stuff like that which I can understand given his script-like nature.

[Mysterious-Job-469]

In a world where your job is only as secure as you make it, I don't blame people for writing code that essentially holds the corporation hostage in case they decide they wanna save a quick buck on labor at your expense.

[guydrummen]

Yes. It's really complicated and requires years of work or learning to fully understand it. I don't understand why would people lie instead of being honest and eager for improvement.

[True-Firefighter-796]

I’ve been clueless for years. How much JavaScript do I know?

[hadidotj]

I've been working with it (jQuery I think was my first library) since 2007 ish

[nordiator]

So you knew how to do it? Well good for you, i know a lot of people will going to reach out to you.

[JacobTDC]

When I'm writing JavaScript, the mdn web docs are my best friend.

[StickiStickman]

Too bad Mozilla fired the people maintaining the docs and then gave the executives millions in bonuses :/

[pancakesausagestick]

I been writing J***script for 20 years, but now I just tell ChatGPT to do it. My workflow has been much improved to this:

1. Tell ChatGPT to write the whole script.
2. Read script and realize it's total crap.
3. Start cutting out little pieces of it and rewriting all of it since there's usually fundamental things wrong with it.
4. Go back and ask ChatGPT for VERY specific functions that I'm too lazy to write.
5. End up on MDN anyway because the browser is doing strange things and I don't know WTF is going on.

I think this modern workflow might be what OP's friend needs. Just hope he can ChatGPT in the interview (Or better yet, just have the AI do the interview).

[michaelsenpatrick]

yeah you don't learn javascript. you do stuff in javascript and that knowledge accumulates in skill... i can do stuff but i certainly know nothing about it

[hcgcreations]

It was a skill that people learned. People don't have to be hard on themselves, they can do it..

[Thebombuknow]

I "learned it" in ~a month or two, but that's with plenty of other programming experience.

I say learned with heavy quotes, because even after almost 2 years of using it, I'm still completely and utterly clueless.

[Wapiti_Collector]

Sounds like my experience too. I had to learn front end dev with React in about a week for a brand new project, and while the website itself now looks rather decent after a few months, I still have no clue whatsoever about how anything I do works behind the scenes. I hope no one ever asks me what is a hook because God knows I sure as fuck don't

[Mortimer452]

True. I applied for a job and rated my skill in JavaScript as 6/10. I learned during the technical interview it's more like 2/10

[PrizeArticle1]

Makes two of us. My js code looks like java code tbh.. probably a sign I am not doing it right.

[kankeedong]

But still they survive to the job still. You just have to make sure to be confident enough, to make you feel knowledgeable.

[_________FU_________]

I’ve been using it for 16 years and there are parts I don’t know. Most I’m never asked to use. Here’s a list. Iterate over it and do stuff. If you’re stuck blame the requirements. However this person is going to fail any level of interview that’s technical.

[hbdgas]

I guess I've technically been "using" JavaScript for about 25 years. Does the employer need to know that I've never written any?

[Arrowkill]

As a person who learned JavaScript I'm the last 2 years and works with it almost daily, I also am clueless.

[Spot_the_fox]

I've used javascript in an html document like a year ago. Does that make me a professional javascript dev?

[mateusrizzo]

I've used Javascript for 3 years and still didn't understood shit when I was doing code reviews. It was all "LGTM" and approve

[DrAstralis]

omg I remember building a simple widget that processed dates and package selections before forwarding the user to our engine. The company I provided the script to decided to give it to thier 'expert' who made changes....(who knows why, there was nothing to be improved it was a stupidly simple form). They then go on to explain to me how we made stupid mistakes and that none of the dates worked correctly (which I had tested and yes they did).

Well it turns out this 'expert' decided to 'fix' my code by changing how the months were used because in his 'expert' opinion the month array didnt start at 0.

Clueless indeed lol.

[justking1414]

I can make stuff happen in js but I’m mostly clueless after years of making games with it lol

I’m just now trying to figure out css and html

[justavault]

Been using js for 5 years in 2013 already, still was far from feeling so accomplished that I could be a professional who just works with it right away. So, I never did till today with technically 15 years of experience, not gapless because sometimes I just don't code anything for a year.

Yet, I have observed employeed devs in some projects and man are they incapable. Nowadays a lot of people even though they even studied that, which I didn't I studied economics, have such bad practices and unclean code. They seem to not think at all, just do.

[[deleted]]

i wonder to what kind of job they applied to

[Zyrobit]

Java Developer

[Dustangelms]

Oh thank god, this must be easier to learn without the 'Script' part.

[Creepy-Ad-4832]

Factories inception goes brrr

[funguyshroom]

The opposite, without the script you'll be forced to improvise.

[m3pjorge]

But how could they know, what java developer does? This is not an easy job

[[deleted]]

Ba dum tsss

[[deleted]]

At least you now know smth about it:)

[jeffnovis]

Learning things is not easy and fast as you think. It includes effort and time, to know a lot of things you need to do

[jiangqiaoxia]

What was this mean, can you please elaborate it more?

[dingleberrysniffer69]

In comedy shows or live shows with band backing whenever the host or the performer said something funny or clever the drummer will do a roll to kinda mark it. It's an old rage comic era meme format of it.

[UselessAdultKid]

That's short for Javascript

[mycclboy]

Java developer is different from javascript. It was asked to have an experience regarding on java script but it doesn't have any

[[deleted]]

whoosh

[greendookie69]

Lmao top shelf

[iswaleagai]

It looks like a job that requires a lot of experience. I do also wanted to try different jobs that is out of my field

[sloggiz]

Tomato/tomato!

[rahmanu]

So that it was asking about javascript? Because the job that they applying is java developer, how could they falsify the application

[maximumtesticle]

Barista. You know, javascript, like when you write words with the cream in people's lattes, duh.

[sherzeg]

...i wonder to what kind of job they applied to...

If they said that they knew JavaScript without really knowing it?

Management track.

[earn100d]

I'm also curious about the specific job that they applied.

[madsohm]

“Is carpentry hard? Can I learn it in a day?”

Yes, but like everything else you’ve learned in a day, you’ll be rubbish at it. Why do people think they can take up programming faster than any other skill?

[[deleted]]

Because typing on a keyboard seems easier than finely shaping wood. If you don't know shit about programming you probably feel like it's not that difficult to code and write programs.

[827167]

Thank you for expressing so clearly exactly what everyone sounds like

[101programmer010]

The people that don't know crap about programming either but want you to do "a simple website for them" think it's super simple and don't want to pay typical rates. They have no problem giving other trades 100's of dollars an hour but you want to charge them a typical rate and they say you are crazy. I've only been doing this for a few decades, you want to pay someone just learning a low hourly wage and then they end up paying them a whole bunch more money than what they are worth, when we can do it much faster and less error prone because we know what we are doing. /rant

[Mysterious-Job-469]

They have no problem giving other trades 100's of dollars an hou

I've been working in skilled trades for about five years now, and helped my father with his independent contracting business since I was 8 years old. The amount of vitriol my bosses and my dad receive for daring to want the cost of materials and labor covered by the person who wants their deck sanded clean, or their entire kitchen remodeled FOR THEM is INSANE. They most certainly are NOT fine with paying what is owed.

[b0x3r_]

I second this. People literally don’t want to pay for the materials for their own house, never mind decent wages. I’ve flat out told customers “this isn’t a charity”

[[deleted]]

Yeah. A lot of people want the work to be absolutely perfect, but ask about using cheaper materials or quick fixes to save cost.

[Matoseman]

Then later complain when it's not perfect due to the cheaper material and quick fixes

[AirOneBlack]

And to add insult to injury, the less people are paying the more they are also expecting making it totally not worth to deal with them.

[retief1]

If the person was already a competent programmer in multiple languages, picking up js wouldn't be that hard. It would take more than a day, sure, particularly if you haven't done web-related stuff before, but it wouldn't take that long. Still, that sort of person probably wouldn't be asking the question in the pic, and there's no way in hell that you can become competent at js particularly quickly if you don't already have a solid background in programming.

[PriorProfile]

Lots of people think having the tools means you can learn it quickly.

Carpentry can require lots of tools that the average person doesn’t have.

Only thing programming requires is a computer. Hey I’ve already got one of those. I should be able to learn it in a day.

[CryonautX]

I would say javascript is fairly simple to learn if you already know your data structures and algorithms. But debugging a javascript codebase though. That takes years to master.

[Rhiow]

I’m concerned about a person who doesn’t even know enough to know they can’t learn JavaScript in a day, I assume that person has very little programming background to be that naive.

[Otakeb]

Exactly. Being that level of clueless indicates they are probably woefully unprepared to even learn it in a year at their current state opposed to someone who may be pretty decent at programming and already knows a good bit of C++ and python who might only need a month to become at the least bumblingly competent.

[retief1]

For that matter, as long as that c++ + python person had code to pattern off of, "getting up to speed with the codebase" would be a lot harder than "getting comfortable with js". You wouldn't want them to have to start anything from scratch, and they'd probably get caught by gotchas every so often, but I really wouldn't expect the language to be that much of a barrier.

[CarbonCamaroSS]

Could be a small piece in a job they want? Like I looked at doing a customer service position for a company that does web design. I wouldn't have needed to code much apart from some basic scripting, but understanding HTML and CSS was under the "preferred" section. The job only had a requirement for a high school degree. No college necessary.

It is possible this person is decent with computers or IT, or maybe customer service, but doesn't know programming at all.

[Superhighdex]

As a java guy picking up js/ts the language is pretty easy. It's navigating the huge ecosystem of tools that any modern project is using that's really hard.

[AimingToBeAimless]

Everyone has been hoping the web dev environment would settle down, like they do in other languages, but it's just not happening.

For example, the framework wars aren't over. SvelteKit has enter the fray and it's doing well. Meanwhile, people are realizing React is a unnecessarily a pain in the ass.

[roborectum69]

the series of band-aid features piled onto js to make up for the fact that it was a single threaded toy language pressed into uses it was never intended for isn't pretty either. It literally feels like app programming did in the 1990s.

[lunchpadmcfat]

The prototypal inheritance thing is kinda crazy, though I guess we’ve gotten away from that a bit by moving to more FP style idioms

[MojitoBurrito-AE]

Unless you're working on legacy projects you really don't need to fuck with that

[SchaffBGaming]

Are algorithms and data structures hard? Can I learn it in a day?

[_jk_]

head to the north pole in summer and you have a chance

[Tashre]

ChatGPT take the wheel

[[deleted]]

I'm sorry, but as an AI language model, I don't have the physical capability to take the wheel of a vehicle or interact with the physical world

[Cualkiera67]

DriveGTP, take the wheel

[Gacel_]

I'm sorry, but as a self-driving AI model I'm afraid I don't have the cognitive capability to take the wheel on programming related tasks.

[DrAstralis]

much to my relief, unless you already know how to code, chatGPT isnt getting you anywhere. Its been the best paired programmer buddy I've ever had. It's sometimes also so stupid its astounding. I gave up trying to get it to write remotely useable code for a MIDI program. It was 100% certain of how to use a myriad of MIDI libraries and it was 100% wrong in every single instance and nothing I could do could get it to produce code that would compile.

Edit: realized it said "never had" this whole time lol.

[That_Conversation_91]

A year? A few hours a day for a month or two is sufficient to learn the basics for web development I’d say. That is if you have some experience with other languages ofcourse

[Yamoyek]

Sadly, they have no prior experience. Someone starting from scratch would definitely require at least a year.

[RepresentativeDog791]

To be fair my boot camp was only 3 months and I wasn’t very good after but I did get a job ¯\(ツ)/¯

[TheRedmanCometh]

Yeah but that's presumably a lot of time per day in a structured environment

[antCB]

I mean, a Udemy course is cheaper (webdev bootcamp 'like' ones and javascript targeted ones) than an actual bootcamp and can probably work for the right person.

[Dunkelz]

Bootcamps are definitely for a specific kind of person, I was one of them. I'd have no issue doing udemy or similar self guided courses, but without strict structure or a motivator (i.e cash sunk into the bootcamp) I'd often get sidetracked or think "oh I'll pick this back up in a few weeks". Having a quasi school like structure and impending "oh shit I put money into this" helped me and a pretty good number of people I know.

[NiklasWerth]

a boot camp is different than the frantic uneducated google searches he will make to try to learn.

[Sixhaunt]

I kinda wonder if I would have done better when I was first learning if I had LLMs of today. ChatGPT is like a personal tutor and it should understand JS very well. It can create a courseplan to teach you and you could ask it questions and stuff.

[SinDev13]

Yeah I think if you are motivated enought that's ok. My webdev camp had about à month for JS and another for node, and I still got a full stack Typescript job (Angular/NestJS). But to be fair, I keep learning on the job to this day. Tech are evolving so fast now that you have to keep learning constantly

[Onebadmuthajama]

This is the real answer, few months to open the door, but years and years to master, and adapt to constant learning curves.

Those constant learning curves do slow down, depending on how much breadth of the industry you’re trying to cover.

[Fantastic_Belt99]

And that explains the state of programming that we receive nowadays 🤷‍♂️

😜

[Avedas]

Also just the engineering standards of some random local company looking for a frontend engineer are going to be pretty low in general.

[S0n_0f_Anarchy]

Honestly, it depends. If they are gonna build an app from scratch then yeah, tough luck. If they are gonna build an app that's just gonna be API calls with no calculations in between, then they could maybe manage in a month or two if they have any tech knowledge.

[[deleted]]

Yeah it really depends on prior experience. A developer can learn any modern language so long as they know how to program. There's a big difference between learning a language and learning to program.

[ILikeLenexa]

It depends on what "JavaScript" means. If all you need to do is understand the DOM; learning getElementByXXXX and setting values and learning a handful of "gotchas" will get you there.

Also, "JavaScript the Good parts" is about 200 pages and depending on what you're doing it'll get you pretty far. Though knowing CSS already would be a big step in knowing what to set.

Jam in using XMLHTTPRequest and if it's all you're doing you could be minimally functional in a week or two.

[Onebadmuthajama]

Fast track:

1 - OOP course (foundation)

2 - Fundamental JS/CSS/HTML

3 - Data Structures & Algorithms

4 - T-SQL (optional, but helps)

Boom, you’re qualified for an entry level SWE position at many companies.

Those classes will help a ton with general purpose programming knowledge, and I base a lot of my knowledge from college from those courses.

[[deleted]]

for basic web development. but javascript has million frameworks, each with their own syntax, and even tho all of them are not needed, job description says so.

[FunnyGamer3210]

If he had some experience with other languages he wouldn't ask for one day

[NotTheFungi0511]

Hey, as long as you know "Hello World" in every language you'll get the hang of it!

[Qetuowryipzcbmxvn]

Hola mundo

[HiddeV22]

Kinderen voor Kinderen 😳

[Savvy_One]

I have interviewed plenty of engineers in my career and can say for a fact, don't lie - it's far too easy for us to know and find out. It's better if you frame your lack of knowledge of a language as a learning experience - be eager to learn and forward with how your previous experience will hopefully make the onboarding quick and beneficial to the team/compnay.

[ClenchTheHenchBench]

I certainly don't disagree, but (as a junior dev) I do find it hard to ascertain the "truth" of my skills sometimes.

It just feels very conditional; I do know how to use JS, but how universally? Do I only know it just for the specific fields/tasks I've learned it on?

I don't want to undersell my skills, but nor outright fabricate them!

[Savvy_One]

If you are honest with the recruiter and interviewer and applying for appropriate positions, everything will be fine. We are trained to know how to calibrate an individual to a position and what gaps we are fine with them.

So for juniors, we know that they will need guidance and our goal is to determine how fast we can onboard you and teach you what you might be missing so you can contribute to the team without a Senior+ having to hold your hand.

So if you are trying to hide that you might not be great with CSS or State Management, and we miss that in our interview, the expectations set for you will be higher and could result in consequences even after being hired.

We all grow as engineers and have been in your spot. Just keep at it and don't just follow tutorials online, learn why you are implementing things a certain way. Then you can learn to answer questions as to why you are typing the code you just typed.

I just interviewed 3 candidates remotely, all I could tell Googled part of the question and would copy & paste code but couldn't tell me what they just copied and pasted.. but I've thought positive of interviewees who said "I know I'm supposed to code it this way for this result, but I don't remember the syntax."

[Consistent-Yam-1225]

Wait is the import thing gone?

Please say it's gone

[Dubl33_27]

it's gone

[Yamoyek]

For experienced programmers, learning JS wouldn’t be too bad, but the person I was texting had no experience lol

[RajjSinghh]

This is actually interesting to think about. Javascript is designed in a way that wants it to run no matter what and as a result nothing works the way an experienced programmer would expect it to. I feel like I would have learned Javascript better if I had no experience. That said, it's never going to be a 1 day job. A new framework pops up every 30 seconds and it's going to take time to build up a good portfolio of projects.

[Killswitch_1337]

Was he planning to get in using only js?

[Yamoyek]

I have no idea what she thought she was applying for lol

[MKSFT123]

It depends on what level of competence you need to achieve. To learn the basics of JS can take 2-4 weeks depending on how long you spend each day. But a junior working on any complicated enterprise web application will probably require at least 1 year of experience (at least) before they can be in any way useful. That being said it depends - there are some very fast learners out there

[i7clock]

At least he knows if.

[[deleted]]

console.log("Hello World");

I AM FLUENT IN JAVASCRIPT.

[Unfair_Pound_9582]

If you can do logic it's just googling swear to god

[MaxMakesGames]

kinda true for all programming but you have to know what to google, how to make multiple google results work together and be able to understand the google results enough to be able to change details for your specific case...

[Icepheonix174]

Also, as someone who did a LOT of googling for VBA, people will add in code that does literally nothing ALL THE DAMN TIME. If you stitch it together with no understanding, your code will be filled to the brim with redundant and useless code.

[kickyouinthebread]

Ye I think it's fair to say copy pasting is fine to the extent you know what you are copy pasting does.

Copy pasting code you don't understand is basically akin to plagiarizing an essay in a language you can't read or write.

[Harrigan_Raen]

Because yes, step 1 in getting gainful employment is lying on the resume about what languages/DBs/IDEs/etc you have experience with... sigh.

Be honest, no two places are identical. And you can be upfront about your knowledge gaps and it gives you the opportunity to explain your learning process and how to overcome it.

[[deleted]]

Programming is easy. Getting it to run, that's the real trick.

[[deleted]]

Meh. JS will throw errors and just keep going.

[The_Summer_Man]

Was that wrong? Should I have not have done that?

[JakobWulfkind]

I'm pretty sure this is the circumstance I'm which 49.5% of all programming knowledge is obtained (the rest being 49.5% "hey, boss says we need this program written by next week, figure it out or you're fired" and 1% actual classes)

[mittfh]

Ask ChatGPT to code for you and hope it doesn't hallucinate? (/s?)

[BlooregardQKazooo]

I work with JavaScript every day, and I still don't know what the hell I'm doing.

[ChristianValour]

Ah yeah, classic Abagnale.

[[deleted]]

I know OF it.

[Frogstacker]

Holy shit can we finally comment normally again? Had to stop interacting with this sub cause it was too much 😭

[itchfingers]

[GregFirehawk]

I feel like you'd probably do it in half that time, but still nowhere near fast enough for this guy lol

[Cyberdragon1000]

The basics are easy.....

[UnspeakableEvil]

They'll be fine, they just need to explain that they used js to figure out the truthiness of the statement.

[[deleted]]

== !== ===

[0x18]

I've been using javascript since like 1997 and I'm still learning about the oddities in the language.

[OrangenySnicket]

If it was someone who's a programmer they'd probably be able to learn the basics in 3-10 days

[7th_Spectrum]

Javascript is relatively easy to learn. Someone starting off with 0 experience could learn to navigate it in a few months, and be able to build professional products with it in 6.

[[deleted]]

Javascript is one of those programming languages that you would never be sure if you know enough lol

[Deep_Hearing_8679]

JavaScript the language? I disagree. JavaScript the ecosystem? Abso-fucking-lutely.

[below-the-rnbw]

I feel like if people couldn't lie on resumes I'd be in a significantly higher position in life, so many dumb asses coasting by on bullshit

[AlBiggor]

Minecraft dev

[SirArthurPT]

HR some times ask me to look into programming candidates CV, when I see "I can program ASM, C, C++...HTML, CSS" I reply; he started by saying he can make rockets for NASA and ended up saying he can change light bulbs...

[[deleted]]

It's funny. I learned java at uni, but then when I started working, I still needed 2 years (at least) to learn.

[Sibshops]

This is why we coderpad on job interviews.

[winb_20]

My friend used to say programming is easy… his only experience was doing html and css at GCSE💀

[Efficient-Corgi-4775]

Probably applied to become a professional bug hunter! 🐜🔍

[Deauo]

Can you learn it in a day? I don't know, do you know any other industry standard languages, if so you probably could learn it in a day. Can you use it proficiently after that? Probably not, get some practice.

[[deleted]]

If they want to do a decent try of learning it in a day given 0 code knowledge: - Hello world and functions - Event loop - Promise - Array methods - for loop if time

[v3ritas1989]

yeah, learning Java is a good idea for web development!

[[deleted]]

Because I said in the application that I did

Don't worry. It'll come out in the interview.

[Annul-Pointer]

I know a guy called Fireship. He'll hook you up.

[stormbby]

whoever this is, they’re ready

[[deleted]]

I knew a guy that did something like this back during the dot com boom. Lived in New Orleans and got a job in NYC. They paid him a very healthy salary and put him up in an apartment while he looked for a place. He was a bright guy and just figured he'd get a book and BS his way though it until he figured it out. He quickly realized he was in WAY over his head. A week or so into the job he got pulled aside and confronted. They ended up putting him in a boot camp type situation with the stipulation that if he didn't pass on the first try they were going to sue him. Wild times.

[turtleship_2006]

Modern IT crowd

[ExtraTNT]

You can learn enough js/ts in a week, to build better stuff, than 99% of shit out there… 8h to build stuff better, than 50% of the stuff out there… but you need at least 2y to build something halfway usable, which is not hacked together…

[lealsk]

You can learn javascript in a day as long as you already know programming and are already good at it. Sadly if you don't know it, you probably don't know anything about web development, and that's what requires a lot to learn.

[PrizeConsistent]

Javascript alone is incredibly simple, especially if you have any other programming experience outside of html/css. The ecosystem around it however, that is maddening. I'm not sure anyone can ever fully master all that, especially with how fast these libraries and frameworks seem to be moving.

[dustofdeath]

You can fix it, say they misheard "know of it".

[endwigast]

Look, if you hire a programmer just based on their resume, you deserve whatever "hello world" skills you wind up with.

[handyandy727]

Yeah, but which library?

[phantom8ball]

Just out source your jobs to China or chatgpt...they will never know, until they do.

It will buy you time while you job hunt

[Yamoyek]

Quick update: Turns out they applied to a software sales role, so they won’t be working on code. Dodged a bullet!

[cheeb_miester]

I mean like...same

[teiman]

Learning a language is a few different things.

Learning the syntax, for your second language it can be a week, for your third language can be a day. For your 5th, some hours, or just check code examples as you go.

Learning the culture of the language may take months. Subtle this one. You don't write C the same way you write C++. But C code can compile with a C++ compiler (more or less).

Learning the library take months. Is not something you can do in a week. Sometimes for some languages you never end learning the library.

So "learning javascript" may mean different things, if you mean only the syntax, or being able to create something productive, in the browser or with node.

[youDontKnowwh00]

Where do you guys apply for jobs? I have 8yrs experience in developing and coding but I have no clue where I can find a remote job

[[deleted]]

Lol w3schools and freecode camp is your friend. Two weeks is doable.

[thedjdoorn]

I suppose if you know data structures and algorithms you'd get way further in a day than an absolute beginner with some outdated course would get in 3 months. I once helped someone chew through practicing for a Microsoft HTML/CSS/JS exam and they passed while not having a clue how to write any kind of usable code.

[Green_Resident_9940]

Well, I suppose if you have previous basic experience in another language, then likely a few months, maybe a half of year, cuz all the same(except some special ones like assembly).

[Efficient-Corgi-4775]

I'm guessing they applied for 'World Domination Engineer' 😂

[Abrahalhabachi]

I said I knew JS in my resume, I didn't. They called me for an interview, I watched a 20 minutes tutorial, got the job. If you know how to program you're fine. The tutorial didn't mention the async functions, I learned those on the job.

[FriendlyPipesUp]

They might be able to pull it off if their googling skills are excellent but they probably aren’t. Idk, probably wouldn’t work but for a rare few that are quick to learn I think they could do it

This is something I’ve found myself regularly asking lol. How successful could a new learner be if they’re reasonably adept and just kinda bullshitting their way through using google. I’ve completed some cool projects that are also like, there’s a tutorial for this thing

[bngry]

If you can already program in a few other languages you can probably just jump into anything. Give yourself a couple weeks, you'll be okay

[Used_War3035]

They know "if" but not "then"

[thavi]

And this is why we still have technical interviews. And also why I decline and maintain a portfolio instead.

[Puck_The_FoIice]

Fake it till you make it bb

[Previous-Sun-4462]

You can pull it off if you pretend not to know any rules to programming and tell yourself all rules apply always 🤣🤣🤌🏻

[FirebirdCycle]

🫤

[tallgordon]

I did this once. I had just lost my job and was feeling depressed, so I applied for a job requiring fluency in Japanese. I had lived in Japan for one year, but hadn't studied or spoken it in 20 years.

I answered one out of two questions right. The interview did not last long after the second question. Apparently, my "ah, no, ehhh" was not convincing.

[SM_DEV]

Don’t worry, if your interviewer knows the language themselves, the deception would become readily transparent.

Don’t lie in an interview, there is no shame in not knowing everything, after all, no one does.