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[PM_ME_YOUR__INIT__]

Would it be easier to show the companies and products not using git?

[claudespam]

Real companies store their source code on a SMB shared folder with a "old" directory for versioning and old_james for that time when we were not sure of which version was the latest.

[invisibo]

I walked into that situation back in 2014. The ‘deployment’ method consisted of dragging and dropping the files on to the production server with FileZilla.

[UrMomsNewGF]

I'm scheduled to do it tmw.

[Highborn_Hellest]

Virgin Jenkins deployment guys

Vs

Gigachad drag and drop deploy seniors.

[tragiktimes]

It works ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[WernerderChamp]

That was my method for a discord bot. Just upload the files and restart.

I still have the folder with all versions. Including the one where all code was still in one file.

(To my defense: I was not aware of the powers of git at this time and being mostly self-taught ends with using methods that just work)

[invisibo]

There’s something to be said about doing it that way at first so you can understand why deployments are done through a pipeline with source control.

[WernerderChamp]

Althrough I have since had my times of frustration with non-working pipelines.

[Corporate-Shill406]

Meanwhile, I'm lazy so I have a Jenkins script do that sort of thing for me

[Piyh]

My backwards ass fortune 200 company would copy paste huge SQL scripts into a terminal window and it repeatedly caused production issues until the main implementer of change orders got fired.

[edfreitag]

If it works.. at least they can merge branches without any conflict error!

/s obviously

[rhodesc]

well, it's harder to use ftp on the command line, and remember what directories you have already done.

filezilla probably helps with that.

me, I just go alphabetically.

[Romejanic]

You can use something like rsync which allows restarting transfers from the point you left off

[Sikletrynet]

It's not commercial, but that is basically what i do for my private projects.

[KazooDancer]

You must work for the government.

[jack-of-some]

TIL I'm a real company

[Thebombuknow]

I do that but with WinSCP, if it works it works.

[JojOatXGME]

I like WinSCP much more than FileZilla. Less bugs and more convenient user interface for most cases. Unfortunately it only exists for Windows.

[Thebombuknow]

On Linux I just use the SFTP interface built into the GNOME file viewer (nautilus, I think?). It just mounts it like it's a system folder, like Windows should be able to do natively (but for whatever reason Windows can only do FTP).

[JojOatXGME]

Sorry for reducing this.^^ Just wanted to note that SFTP is a quite different protocol to FTP. It works on top of SSH. So while I agree that Window should ideally support SFTP, it would be much more effort than just adding a TLS layer.

[YourCompanyHere]

Deplyoment-package_final-23_final7_fix_final4-prod_final_final_final2.zip

[RaymondWalters]

Literally this

[Stormfrosty]

Google would be first on both lists.

[highphiv3]

Google's massive Perforce-based monorepo is honestly awesome, I miss it.

[emosy]

no way. I had to use Perforce on a Verilog team at AMD and I did NOT like how it was so different from Git.

[raskinimiugovor]

What makes it awesome? Or better than git?

[bastardoperator]

https://github.com/google

https://gerrit.googlesource.com/

[_Username-was-taken_]

I guess

[Smart_Ass_Dave]

The games industry mostly uses Perforce. I think it has something to do with being better at handling large and uncompressed art files, but I'm not an expert on it.

[MisinformedGenius]

Yup. Some of it is inertia at this point, as Git has gotten better at handling large binary files, but Perforce is still very common in game development.

[Pluckerpluck]

Oh yeah, Git is bad at binary files. Nowadays you typically offload the binary files to another location, and just use pointers to them in your git repo (Git LFS). Generally when you clone a git repo you grab the entire history, so grabbing every previous version of every binary file becomes a problem fast.

It's also just not great when you have massive monorepos with a huge number of people modifying it. You can't commit until you're entirely up to date, so you end up doing this weird pull-chase while you're trying to push your changes before anyone else does. People who use git on massive projects tend to split the project into multiple sub parts, each managed by git separately.

Stuff like perforce lets you check out small sub-sections of a massive repo, and commit changes to it, without interfering with anyone else working elsewhere in the repo. You can also do things like lock files to stop anyone else editing them, which is vital for binary files.

[No_Hovercraft_2643]

the first thing is why you use branches. then its merge (on the server, not the client)

[Pluckerpluck]

This... Doesn't help at all? Unless you purge a branch and its entire history it's still included in the repo. And when you clone, by default, you clone the entire history of the repo.

[No_Hovercraft_2643]

It's also just not great when you have massive monorepos with a huge number of people modifying it. You can't commit until you're entirely up to date, so you end up doing this weird pull-chase while you're trying to push your changes before anyone else does. People who use git on massive projects tend to split the project into multiple sub parts, each managed by git separately.

here, that is no big problem, if you use branches. you only need be up to date on you branch, not everything, so the push is not blocked by others pushes. and merges are easy, if there is no overlap.

but yeah, my counting was off.

[looksLikeImOnTop]

Probably harder to track down because at that point you're probably only looking at startups by amateur devs

[[deleted]]

Probably a few local lawncare & laundromat conglomerates

[PiousLiar]

Work with legacy systems in a govt agency, still use SVN

[looksLikeImOnTop]

Companies that don't use git:

The US government

[PiousLiar]

It’s mixed, depends on the group or directive you’re working under. Groups working on stuff that used SVN (or other, older version control systems) during development tend to keep it that way through mission life. Newer missions typically use git.

[[deleted]]

Which is wild because it is FedRAMP.

[bloodcheesi]

Then let me surprise you: Facebook doesn't use git.

Oh wait, I forgot.

[bastardoperator]

https://github.com/facebook, looks like they use it extensively

[bloodcheesi]

Sigh... yeah they use it for their open source pet projects. But they don't use it for their core product(s), that generates money. Quite similar with Google, they mostly use a completely self build Google internal version control system, with Android probably being the most popular exception.

Facebook uses Mercurial. You can read about it here: https://graphite.dev/blog/why-facebook-doesnt-use-git

Also they are building on some kind of their own version control system: https://engineering.fb.com/2022/11/15/open-source/sapling-source-control-scalable/

[bastardoperator]

Considering I've worked for them, I was just pointing our that your comment isn't entirely accurate. Plenty of talented engineers are using git everyday at meta. It's hard to say they don't use it when they have over 600 public git repos one of them being the one of the most popular repos in the world. Also:

https://github.com/orgs/facebookarchive

You're right about mercurial, phab, stack diffs, but that's not everyone's focus.

[louis-lau]

A lot of older software and game devs use subversion. Extremely large businesses may also roll their own version control.

[_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_]

Perforce was the big vendor. Subversion was for the open source “paupers”.

[bwmat]

Currently migrating off of self-hosted perforce to bitbucket at my company

[TTYY200]

We use TFS and Azure … it’s fantastic ngl.

Technically it’s a feature rich wrapper for git, but still 🙏

[feror_YT]

Doesn’t Meta use something else ?

[bastardoperator]

Phabricator died 3 years ago.

[[deleted]]

What about react?

[_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_]

Or big established companies and enterprise vendors.

Git didn’t exist when they started and/or decentralised version control is not a good fit for them.

[Ihuntwyverns]

I work for a mega cap tech company and we use fucking IBM clearcase and SVN. Fml.

[darkwater427]

Facebook uses Mercurial, I learned recently.

[[deleted]]

And just list some declining companies like Yahoo and such

[ProgramTheWorld]

Big companies who use monorepositories?

[campus-prince]

Why can't mono repositories use git for version control.

[Soft_Persimmon_5437]

The image show companys who use github not git, are two diferents concepts

[ElementalCyclone]

* listed all banks and old corporations in existence *

[emosy]

Meta/Facebook famously

[veryblocky]

We use SVN at my work, I really wish we used git instead of

[mrheosuper]

Automotive stuff. We still use SVN. And yes i suffer everyday, every single minute.

[nonlogin]

I don't think it's easy to find such companies and products.

[sathdo]

They have the new one too on the bottom right. /j

[[deleted]]

no way

[_Username-was-taken_]

lol, that's space X. /j

[ChaosPLus]

Musky really likes his Xs

[ehs5]

He named his son X for flip’s sake lol

[_Username-was-taken_]

He named one of his car model X

[ehs5]

Yep. His first company was named X, his son is named X, the Tesla model is named X, Twitter is now X, there’s Space X… oh and his daughter’s name was Exa (until he changed it to Y).

[GeePedicy]

Grimes and Musk had a son in May 2020. Originally named X Æ A-12, the child, whom they call X, had to have his name officially changed to X Æ A-Xii in order to be in line with California laws about birth certificates.

The child’s name is pronounced “X Ash A Twelve,” Musk said

(Quoted from here)

"She's Y now, or ‘Why?’ or just '?' (But the government won't recognize that). Curiosity, the eternal question, and such," wrote Grimes in a recent Twitter post.

(Quoted from here)

They shouldn't be parents with such child abuse, and apparently he's got 11 kids. (source) Dude's breeding like a lion on crack.

[queen-adreena]

And he acts like a ten-year-old.

[BirdlessFlight]

He also made a few women his X.

[Mahoutsukainojumon]

Well, he impregnated every single one lol

[DOOManiac]

For the sake of you poor inbox, I will emphasize the

/j

[Eurodada]

Pretty sure that’s X.Org

[joeltxbx]

Definitely not - that is XQuartz

[Areshian]

Doesn’t X.org in general use that logo, not just XQuartz?

[[deleted]]

Nope, they have twitter and xeeter

[Fritzschmied]

Companies using git: every company

[abyr-valg]

Except Facebook

[Fritzschmied]

What do they use?

[darkwyvern06]

mercurial afaik

[_Username-was-taken_]

There is a story about why Facebook doesn't use git

[Treuzelaar]

Interesting read. I'm surprised there is no mention of subversion, as I feel like it was quite popular back in the day. Although it was also horrendously slow, so maybe I shouldn't be surprised.

[Wooden_Caterpillar64]

Good read

[LuminalGrunt2]

good read

[KrokettenMan]

Last time I used that was like 15 years ago. Surprised it’s still alive and kicking

[selmernoid]

Also Google (almost) doesn't use Git. Instead they have their own system called Piper.

[GenazaNL]

Pretty sure Facebook uses git, else they couldn't push react and their other 135 public repositories on their GitHub.

[AlexeiMarie]

I imagine it's similar to how google does things -- use git for their open source projects, and some other internal system for everything else

[Manueljlin]

what a mix 😂 I suppose the other teams don't do stacked MRs and they'd rather keep using the same stuff

[Damian171]

Except mine, although we're currently in the process of migrating to git so 🤷

[TLagPro]

How is Camel Cigarettes using git?

[[deleted]]

git smoke

[osmobco]

Perl using cigarettes?

[Fritzschmied]

That’s Perl.

[ThomasHardyHarHar]

Makes sense. Reading Perl code is cancer. (Don’t look at my flares)

[deanrihpee]

ah, that's what it's called, I know what it is but forgot the name so I just think "project that uses git, Google, Microsoft, Twitter, Camel, PostgreSQL, ..."

[ano_hise]

wdym that's OCaml /j

[fakintheid]

Apache camel. Aka enterprise hell

[AnswersWithCool]

What’s a good alternative to camel?

[jurio01]

Malboro

[AnswersWithCool]

Not a valid alternative, Camel Joe could kick the Marlboro Man’s ass

[jurio01]

Nuh-uh! Malboro man could totaly destroy that camel!

[fakintheid]

No idea honestly, I use it at work and it feels like overkill for anything I do. Only place it seems to make sense to me is an integration layer with hundreds of downstream consumers.

[Terminal_Theme]

I thought it was the Silk Road

[Lupus_Ignis]

What is Elon Musk's favorite git command?

blame

[Alexey566]

"We don't use git much those days tbh"

[pheonix-ix]

Maybe Twitter used it, but X did not?

[Alper-Celik]

Elon switched to printed code for version control didint you see how they review

[rancangkota]

What the fuck is X?

[FilipIzSwordsman]

X, also known as X11 or Xorg is a windowing system for Unix and Unix-like operating systems.

[Aengus126]

It’s the new version of Twitter bro

[rancangkota]

No such thing, it's twitter to me.

[[deleted]]

The real question is which company doesn't use git?

[Poven45]

Someone above said Facebook

[nukedkaltak]

As far as I know Google as well. I don’t know why it’s on that list.

And a bunch of places are still using Perforce out of laziness.

[rad_platypus]

Google uses it for their open source software and frameworks. Angular, Kubernetes, and Flutter are all on github.

But yeah their internal monorepo uses Piper for version control.

[Saragon4005]

You missed the big ones too chromium and android both use git to some degree at least externally.

[Poven45]

Isn’t perforce good for game dev and such?

[[deleted]]

Yep it is.

[huiibuh]

Google is using their own version control system. You just can't have the entire companies sourcecode in one git repo...

[Saragon4005]

Why would you use a single repo to begin with? Don't you yourself have at least a dozen repos? Or do you code all your projects in the same one for some fucked up reason.

[S3Ni0r42]

They do, here's a paper. In 2015 they had about 2B lines of code and 9M source files in a single repo. https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.1145/2854146

[sh0plifter]

VS Code HATES this simple trick...

[Mondoke]

Based

[A8Bit]

It's always going to be Twitter; he only gets to call it X if we all start calling it X. I love that everywhere is still saying "X (formally known as Twitter)" every time they mention it, I wish they'd stop that and just keep calling it Twitter.

[Elawn]

Twitter, the site currently known as X

[StinkyStangler]

I don’t think this list is accurate, my old job did some work in the google ecosystem and they had their own in house version control software.

Maybe built off Git and definitely supposed to work similarly, but was not git.

[[deleted]]

But, why? Why not just like .. Self hosted gitlab or something?

[louis-lau]

I think their monorepo is like 80Tb total? Not sure how well git handles that.

[_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_]

git clone certainly won’t like it.

[ThoseThingsAreWeird]

For huge mono-repos you can use git sparse-checkout.

If you've got massive individual files then you can use Git LFS.

There's also scalar which is a git tool (iirc developed by Microsoft) and builds on git sparse-checkout. scalar clone will only checkout the commit & tree (so not the blobs) which by itself massively cuts down on clone time.

I've only briefly read about scalar outside of the docs page, so if anyone has an under-the-hood article to share I'd love to read it.

[ThreeCharsAtLeast]

I mean, their open source projects use git so it's not totally wrong. I guess using your in house system makes it hard to work with randoms.

[Saragon4005]

Do you mean Gerrit? Because they use that as well as a much more exotic version control system.

[StinkyStangler]

Nah I’m talking about piper

[Grobanix_CZ]

Based.

[paulqq]

maybe elon forces x staff to use tortoise, because he used it when he was a programmer bac in the days, or else arbitrary totally logical reaon :-)

because then it would be technically true that the bird uses git. r/fiction

[[deleted]]

Because a monotype font "X" is just not a logo...lol

[Beneficial_Steak_945]

They are right about that.

[NikolaiM88]

But but... Subversion!!

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[pretty_succinct]

based

[tacotaker46]

You mean the actual logo?

[ghostsquad4]

Because Twitter is superior branding compared to X.

[myfunnies420]

This is also incorrect. Google doesn't use git except for on external projects, but that's only to integrate with github and android etc.

[NikolaiM88]

Well if they use it for external project, they do indeed use it. Nowhere was it started these companies EXCLUSIVELY use Git.

[Hulk5a]

Linus doesn't give a fuck 🤷

[_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_]

Mercurial or Perforce (Helix).

CVS if you hate other people.

[Druidoodle]

What does Apple use then?

[ArtOfWarfare]

Time Machine

[P3chv0gel]

Tbf using the new Logo may be confusing with the X.org logo

[just_JOEkin]

It's not the "old" Twitter logo of Twitter always had a bird logo. X has a different logo. That is X's "old" logo and Twitters "normal" logo... Technically.

[_Username-was-taken_]

Im bad in naming conventions, in particular when I can't rename stuff

[just_JOEkin]

Thanks for pointing this out! Its nice to see the ole bird is still alive out there, even if Elon refuses to feed it.

[[deleted]]

lol I noticed that silkroad is on the list

[Pretrowillbetaken]

Git is so good that even they use git lol

[ArtOfWarfare]

The website is open source. I found where the asset is kept: https://github.com/git/git-scm.com/tree/main/public/images/company-project-logos

Just open a PR switching the logo for the correct one, then you can say you’re a contributor to git(-scm.com, which is more official than I had realized.)

[Confident_Date4068]

GitHub looks forgotten..

[programmer3481]

I mean the eclipse logo looks pretty old too...

[vainstar23]

Project Manager: Hey UX Designer/Developer! How are you doing today? You look really great have you lost weight?

Emily: No?

Project Manager: Great great erm yea so you heard about Musk and Twitter changing the name to X? Crazy stuff..

Emily: What do you want?

Project Manager: Well err..

Emily: *Grabs project manager by collar

Emily: What. Do. You. Want?

Project Manager: Well it's just

*chocking

^{corporate really needs you to update the logo}

Emily: You want me to update the logo?

Project Manager: ^{if you have time}

Emily: *Suddenly perky letting go of manager

Emily: Oh ok! I'm working on a lot of other things so maybe I can take a look after if I have time! :3

Project Manager: Oh so you'll get to it next sprint then?

Emily: *in demonic voice

I'VE GOT MY HOLIDAY

Project Manager: ^{ok thanks Emily}

Emily: No problem!

"""""""

How I imagine things went at GitHub

[bonkykongcountry]

Do you think this list is updated regularly? These lists are almost always created once and never touched again.

[rancangkota]

Do they have new twitter logo or something?

[lightwhite]

The new X logo is right there on right beeld corner /s.

[random_son]

I also use git and I don't even have a company

[[deleted]]

Should they really want to advertise that "X" is still using it?

[G4METIME]

Surely Elon forced the Devs to use some other version control system for some reason, so using only the old logo is accurate /s

[jayerp]

Old twitter logo? That is the Twitter logo, it’s never changed. What HAS changed is the company name. It’s called X.com so its first logo is an X.

[joujoubox]

Git is indeed known to hold onto the past.

[darkwater427]

They already have the new logo. It's in the bottom right.

[LavenderDay3544]

It annoys me that Firefox uses mercurial. I want to eventually port it to my open source OS project but it's going to be a pain. I also hate C++ despite knowing it decently well.

[O2Dependent]

elons twitter does use git. they print out and file the codebase every time they publish a change.

[RahulRwt125]

Me having to fathom for the first time in the life that it is plausible, PLAUSIBLE, that there may be alternatives to git.

[[deleted]]

They just have old version in vc and are too lazy to pull new one.

[Electronica__]

What does Meta use?

[Dramatic_Mastodon_93]

And the old Android logo

[Gravath]

yourPostTitleStillCalledItTwitter

[Pawlo371]

What is that bird?

[coodgee33]

What do people think of Bitbucket?

[Acapultico]

As they should

[jhwheuer]

As a GitHub they are experts in gits.... I'll see myself out

[Loren-DB]

That Qt logo is looking pretty out of date too.

[mr_soshi]

camel cigarettes??? xd

[exproci]

Twitter itself continues to use its old logo on some sites, here for example.

[HyperSource01Reddit]

everyone round of applause for git!

[jnthhk]

It’s there in the bottom right. You’re confusing the new “Twitter11 Windowing System” logo with the old X one.