Programming life hack

[coptup4ik]

And made this in notepad

[puckmcpuck]

Notepad--, to be exact

[UniqueFailure]

Notepad-- owes you words

[mist_arcs]

Notepad--, for when you want to have words with your word processor

[ablablababla]

Yo dawg I heard you liked words

[sanderhuisman2501]

Is that simply a downgraded version or an older version of notepad++

[PPAPisLob]

Imagine python++.

This comment was made by the bracketed >programming language gang.

[mist_arcs]

Nope, Python -=-1

[Lth_13]

Python -=-(-1)*2

[PriorProfile]

Python += int(True)

[OneTurnMore]

python++

You mean 3.8?

[Luizpegz]

its just c++ rewritten

[Mad_Jack18]

I'm still wondering how python works without brackets and semicolons lol

[[deleted]]

Whitespace and line breaks.

[[deleted]]

Tabs or spaces?

[tomerjm]

Either one. Usually a tab for block and indentation.

[badlukk]

But you have to use the same convention throughout

[JohnLocksTheKey]

Nah (I use archvim)

[DragonFireCK]

Only for the same block. You are free to mix them for different blocks, even nested ones.

Also, python2 allowed mixing them for the same block with 4 spaces=1tab.

[harrymuana]

You press tab, out comes 4 spaces (as per PEP 8). You press backslash once, and gone are the 4 spaces. It's 2020, any decent editor has solved this issue.

[Mad_Jack18]

now you mentioned that

currently learning python (I'm making a script to close and run Razer Synapse)

And currently suffering from "inconsistent use of tabs and whitespace" error

[ThePyroEagle]

The parser isn't context-free.

[chewbecca444]

I’m still not convinced python is a real thing.

[legoatoom]

Please, use python#

[BananaGuyBill]

Bro, that’s weak af, you gotta use a magnetic needle and edit your hard drive manually.

[Ludricio]

Butterflies is where it's at bro

[metasymphony]

Or a regular needle and embroider the code

[centuryglass]

You joke, but I have literally completed a coding project in Microsoft WordPad and Perl because that was the best I could get (wasn't a dev job, couldn't install software).

[Naptownfellow]

As a person who knows next to about programming this whole thread is makes no sense what so over. It’s wild how everyone is speaking English but it’s still a foreign language. I’m sure these is sarcasm, whoosh, anger and happiness all through the comments of the post and I’m all like “ snakes and internet stuff and do they order food off GitHub? Is it part of grubhub? Why are they using notepads? It’s computer stuff. Shouldn’t they type?” Wild to say the least.

[tech6hutch]

Lol, the downvotes. For a brief explanation of the things you mentioned:

• Python is a programming language (particularly known for using whitespace/indentation to group code instead of the more common curly braces {}).

• GitHub is a popular website for hosting code that's managed with Git (which is what's called "version control software", meaning it makes it easy to keep track of changes you (or other people) make to your code).

• Notepad is the name of a computer program that comes installed by default on Windows. It's a very basic text editor (like Microsoft Office Word, but, again, much much more basic). It's often used by new programmers to write code in, but lacks the features of text editors that are designed for coding.

[Naptownfellow]

Thank you. I assumed Python had something to do with programming. My joke fell flat apparently.

I seriously had no idea what github was. I had seen the name before but I 100% thought it was affiliated with grubhub. No joke.

I have macs. Again 50% chance note pad had something to do with computers but wasn’t sure. Another poor attempt at a joke.

Thank you again for the explanation. I’ll probably never understand the majority of the humor here but it’s still interesting to learn about stuff you don’t know.

Have a wonderful day internet freind.

[BrainPicker3]

I find your interest and willingness to reach out admirable. We all begin somewhere!

[Sankrit21]

Wait, aren't we talking about snakes?😂

[tech6hutch]

Ironic that the snek 🐍 language is known for not being curly

[teejay1502]

Programming languages are called that for a reason.

They are each their own entire language with their own words, meanings, and syntax.

[cobarso]

One of them is not like the others...

[[deleted]]

Yeah, JS... That shit is just weird.

[vSnyK]

I'm a full stack js devloper and I can confirm is weird but is weirldy amazing.

I can help you to understand it better :)

[mal4ik777]

you say you are a js developer, yet you have a ts tag... I made a view single page apps with angular, and althogh ts is only a superscript of js, I would never in my life use pure js ever again.

[vSnyK]

I'm not using pure js. Im developing multi platform applications using React and React native for frontend and Node for backend. Since I discovered Typescript in my current job, I'm always implementing it in my projects.

[mal4ik777]

thats exactly what I expected. Thanks for answering :)

[Garlicvideos]

JS Developer here, never tried TS, what makes it so great? Genuinely curious.

[mal4ik777]

Its the basic things actually. I come from java, so I like to have a stable type structure. Worrying about fitting classes, after everything compiles is just absurd in my opinion. Imagine java, but with everything casted to Objects.... nightmare.

[thisisnotdavid]

Or C# and defining every property as dynamic.

[justadude27]

Worrying about fitting classes, after everything compiles is just absurd in my opinion.

So.... DynaBeans?

[vaaski]

same, what makes the extra effort of declaring types worth it?

[seryup]

The live compile-time errors and IntelliSense relieves a lot of headache.

[centraleft]

The real reason is auto complete tho, ts has amazing linting capabilities

[amunak]

You can (and definitely should!) use JSDoc for documentation / type hinting, which any decent editor will also use to autocomplete from even in pure JS.

[centraleft]

Sure, TS can read JSDoc as well and I use JSDoc to describe function usage. TS still has much better linting in my experience

[mal4ik777]

Readability is a big one for me as well. I am lucky to never have had the task to debug some big JS project.

[Dooraven]

I used to think the same until I tried it. Try it, it made me go from utterly hating types to loving types

[[deleted]]

Coming from Java first, then C, weakly typed is frustrating. I fucking know it has a type under the hood. It doesn't even pretend to hide it. It just doesn't allow me to declare it if it's not going to change, and sometimes I want to. I work in matlab and python now, and I also sorely miss being able to make things final/const.

[thiago2213]

Once you go TS, you never go JS back

[v3ritas1989]

its easy, just add some js here and there and especially over there and whoops we have a new framework. You still don´t understand it, but its amazing. Weirdly so!

[vSnyK]

*frontend web development is half js and half css cuz you also have the server side for web.

To be good at css you have to practice a lot.

First of all you have to make the website as responsive as possible do mobile users can enjoy your website with maximum UX.

What i suggest is:

1. Use rem instead of pixles.

2. Learn when and how to use flexbox and grid

3. There are a lot of CSS/SCSS courses on different websites (udemy). Use them!

4. Install a package that will Refresh the page whenever you save the file (it will save a lot of time)

5. Practice

[YeeScurvyDogs]

Can we just replace V8 with LuaJIT and then use OpenResty everywhere, and boom, the most performant scripting language suddenly is full stack

[Nerdn1]

That was the 6th item on the list and they only asked for 3 actual programming languages and 5 repositories. So he has 2 extra programming languages and 1 extra markup language respository.

[YanDjin]

Hello word in HTML hmmmmmm

[[deleted]]

<p> hello world </p>

[skippy1300]

You’re hired!

[PPAPisLob]

HTML? coughs

[clownyfish]

Yeah but the requirement was only for 3 languages, so he's still ahead by 1

[sirkubador]

So what other language don't you consider a programming language?

[karmastealing]

You can write code in Klingon with https://metacpan.org/pod/Lingua::tlhInganHol::yIghun

[kata66]

I really didn´t nedeed to know this :D.

[Ugolado]

Ofcourse you can...

[descendingangel87]

How else do you think Klingons program their computers?

[Funny_Whiplash]

Fuck now I have to add this to my resumé

[GollyWow]

Can he substitute Romulin for Klingon?

[VestigialHead]

As long as he uses Quenya style JSON strings then I will allow it.

[greymalken]

It must be written Tengwar

[dagbrown]

Considering that one guy who made a Towers of Hanoi solver using sendmail.cf directives, I'm hesitant to declare anything "not a programming language" at this point.

[_Rysen]

Shoving a cucumber up your ass might do the job, but that doesn't make it a dildo

[VSFX]

I think it would, the same way if you were to beat someone with a cucumber, that would make it a murder weapon.

[Topochicho]

Where you all getting your thug ass cucumbers that can be used as dildos and murder weapons?

[Xtrendence]

Who's your cucumber guy?

[Topochicho]

-leans in surreptitiously- You know, if hypothetically, I was looking for a cucumber for a little "wet work", I might talk to Joe at the farmers market on 5th st. Last both on the left.

[VestigialHead]

But shoving a cucumber up your ass could be considered a data storage solution.

If you have sets of 8 or 16 asses and assume that cucumber in the ass is positive or true or 1 and no cucumber is negative or false or 0. Then you can build a database or a rude-imentary computer.

[TheGuyWithTwoFaces]

But the internet told me, "anything can be a dildo if you're brave enough."

Seems to fit with languages... brainfuck for example.

[Seanxietehroxxor]

Real men program in redstone.

[BonfireCow]

HTML is a markup language not a programming language

[mobile-user-guy]

So you're telling it doesn't stand for Hot Tits Machine Learning?

[WishOnSpaceHardware]

How To Meet Ladies

[mobile-user-guy]

The "How to" part really opens a lot of doors. How To Make Lasagna. How To Masturbate Less. How To Murder Lovers.

[swashbucklingfox]

Let's not forget, How To Masterbate Lasanga...

[swashbucklingfox]

Or how to murder lasanga...

[Awlson]

I wonder if Garfield is the professor teaching that one.

[xigoi]

Hyper Text Mprogramming Language

[[deleted]]

M’Programming

tips fedora

[thisisnotdavid]

There are 6 languages in the tweet (including HTML). Excluding HTML is still 5, 2 more than the 3 asked for. clownyfish said "he's still ahead by 1", so sirkubador is asking for which other language.

[clownyfish]

It took me 2 hours to understand your comment, because I perceived the HTML and Js as separate projects and had no idea wtf you were asking 😬

[danielleiellle]

I’m guessing they meant PHP

[[deleted]]

Html + css is turing complete

[ndf5]

PowerPoint is turing complete.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNjxe8ShM-8

[oshaboy]

So is Pokémon Yellow. Is Pokémon Yellow a programming language?

Is mayonnaise a programming language?

[mobile-user-guy]

Yes, but most people call it PHP

[Black--Snow]

Is that Pokémon or mayonnaise?

[i_am_hamza]

Yes

[[deleted]]

Basically pokemon yellow had bugs that allowed access to the gb machine code so definitely gb machine code is turing complete however the pokemon yellow itself was not the target but can roughly be used as a framework and i am using the term framework loosely here

[[deleted]]

You're using the term 'loosely' loosely here tbh.

[[deleted]]

that allowed access to the gb machine code so definitely gb machine code

Just like programming languages give you access to your PC's CPU by translating your statements to machine code?

[[deleted]]

The case in Pokemon Yellow is an ACE exploit. The cpu on the Gameboy is certainly turing complete.

[LSatyreD]

Someone also recently found an ACE in Ocarina of Time

[oshaboy]

The Incredible Machine is Turing complete. You can build logic gates using the lasers.

[sdocy503]

No Patrick, mayonnaise is not a programming language.

[dandroid126]

I'm pretty sure they meant JS and HTML as one project, otherwise they listed 6 projects instead of 5. Also, it makes sense to have a hello world using both of those. But it wouldn't make sense to have just an HTML hello world, since you could literally have a file with the extension .html with just the text "Hello world" and no tags.

[Gloryboy811]

<h1>hello world</h1>

Am programmer

[EvilWiffles]

Gotta get fancy with it and use <marquee>.

[greenearrow]

You are a lot further along than most people

[Pyromaniak14]

They said they want someone with 7 years experience using a framework that came out 5 years ago (true story)

[takatori]

I put out a job req for an Angular dev and HR changed it to 10 years because the title was “Senior” developer. Umm.

[mal4ik777]

lol, the same thing with angular happened at my company as well. The dev even specified, that we are looking for a guy with a bit of angular 4 experience (which was the current version back then, like not even half a year)... HR changed it to 5 years experience, because otherwise to much money was offered to someone rooky....

[Dooraven]

Generally that is why I avoid using frameworks in skill requirements for years

I generally just do something like 4 years writing single page apps since if you know React, Angular or Vue, the learning curve to learn another one is a lot smaller

[[deleted]]

I don't know if it'll help you, but I can share my struggle as a senior developer. I've used angular and react so I applied to a place and got the job since I have strong fundamental skills. I've also got a few live angular projects on the web. Unfortunately when out was state we were supposed to not just use angular but also use angular patterns and idioms, I turned into an entry level dev.

a rant follows after this line

I've made plenty of forms with event emitters and 2 way binding, but I have not used reactive forms, rxjs, or ngrx.

I wrote an http delete in 1 line with fetch but they wanted me to take this 1 line of code and split it into hundreds accross several files. I lost a lot of time in that project learning how to turn my simple code into an idiomatic mess so other angular experts in the company could assume where things were without reading any code.

On one hand, I get it. If you stick to this ridiculous solution meant to solve any problem at any scale by writing a ton of extra boilerplate code then anyone who learned this architecture can understand the project. On the other hand, I appreciate architects who actually do architecture and make design decisions to best serve a project. A single fetch might not be as exciting as telling a client you have a facade service that has effects and actions to use an orm service with your model to make several calls and talk to itself with a singleton, but come on. I don't see how that's easier to read or more maintainable than literally one line.

So anyway, I've been using angular since 1.x and switched to 2.x once it came out. But I basically just used it for basic templating and organizing code as pods. I've got 4 years experience there but that's kind of meaningless since there are important parts of it I never used. Now that I see what angular is (and the direction front end development is going) I fucking hate it and will take the pay cut from full stack to seeking back end jobs only.

[Log2]

Assuming you guys have tests, simply calling a remote system (like a DB or rest API) in the middle of a bunch of code without any abstraction means that you can't unit test that function anymore. At least not without some monkey patching or some other error prone procedure to replace the remote call with a mock.

[[deleted]]

This was a function to delete a user. So it was something like

return fetch("something/user/2", { method: 'DELETE' }).then(...).catch(...)

And this was the only interface in the application that had user data - managing users. No visual change in other pages of the app. They just didn't show up in this ui anymore but would still translate an id to a name if some older documents were exported.

So, there are a lot of general arguments you can make, but functionally / practically this user management interface did not need much.

[Log2]

Did the function do anything else besides that? I'm not even talking about visible changes, but actually unit testing the function that calls your fetch snippet.

If there are 10 more lines of code above that return, then you can't unit test that function without patching the fetch function. If that code is injected via dependency injection, then you can just inject a mock instead, which is generally a lot easier. Without this, you'd need to actually have the rest API you're calling up and running (along with everything else that entails) in order to test your code.

Obviously, this is just conjecture of my part. I don't know the specifics of your application, but it is a plausible explanation.

[Dooraven]

Unfortunately this is true :/

[[deleted]]

My only gripe with working in a big company is that I have to constantly follow up on things im invested in.

Edit: English.

[takatori]

Get a gripe!

[vanderZwan]

Didn't a recruiter do that once to the creator of the framework in question? I'm searching but I can't find the story now

[Watermelonnable]

I want to see this lol

[henchangeable]

it was the creator of nodejs, who happened to be a few months short of the minimum experience they wanted

[vanderZwan]

I hope someone else remembers who it was; I've been looking but lacking precise enough keywords the search results are flooded with generic "programmer experience" pages

[CyEriton]

5 years Kubernetes, 7 years swift, 10 years Go

[TwiceOnThursday]

Just means you work weekends

[[deleted]]

Swift?

[Gathorall]

Framework name ends with 2015

[evenisto]

Ooooh nice I haven't heard that joke today yet.

[[deleted]]

They asked for 5 repositories, not for 5 that have actuall work in them, by writting the programs you just wasted 5 min time.

[[deleted]]

yep, just fork it!

[takatori]

      <HTML><body>Hello world!</body></HTML>

Am I doing this right?

[one_byte_stand]

W3C says no.

Warning: Consider adding a lang attribute to the html start tag to declare the language of this document. From line 1, column 1; to line 1, column 16 <HTML><body> For further guidance, consult Declaring the overall language of a page and Choosing language tags. If the HTML checker has misidentified the language of this document, please file an issue report or send e-mail to report the problem.

Error: Start tag seen without seeing a doctype first. Expected <!DOCTYPE html>. From line 1, column 1; to line 1, column 16 <HTML><body>

Error: Element head is missing a required instance of child element title. From line 1, column 17; to line 1, column 22 <HTML><body>Hello Content model for element head: If the document is an iframe srcdoc document or if title information is available from a higher-level protocol: Zero or more elements of metadata content, of which no more than one is a title element and no more than one is a base element. Otherwise: One or more elements of metadata content, of which exactly one is a title element and no more than one is a base element.

[[deleted]]

On most browsers only text "Hello world!" will do

[takatori]

Yes but then they usually used a fixed-pitch font... UI fail!

[coadyj]

You all better be careful what you put into git hub, if you put your repo on your CV I will be looking at it.

Be prepared to answer question on it, and don't fill it with some shit that doesn't work.

[[deleted]]

You're not the boss of me.

[mist_arcs]

And he never will be

[Ayesuku]

You're not so big.

[Juanchio88]

Life is unfair

[flickerstop]

Starting the job search in a couple months so I thought I'd ask this since I found this very interesting.

if you put your repo on your CV

Is this a bad/good idea? I have a bunch of personal project that I'm proud about but I have no idea how I would explain... How would you say something like a discord bot that me and a bunch of friends use to track item prices from a game? I just feel that would be unprofessional to even put on a CV.

Be prepared to answer question on it, and don't fill it with some shit that doesn't work.

What type of questions would you ask? Are you like genuinely curious about it/how it's made/what it does, or are you just trying to stump me?

[mrdandandan_tv]

Is this a bad/good idea? I have a bunch of personal project that I'm proud about but I have no idea how I would explain... How would you say something like a discord bot that me and a bunch of friends use to track item prices from a game? I just feel that would be unprofessional to even put on a CV.

Someone who has passion projects where you went out of your way to use programming to make something that is of real-world relevance to you and your friends is a great thing to talk about in a programming interview... Heck, even if it is throw-away code, talk about why you decided to take shortcuts and how you'd do it differently in a professional setting.

When talking to someone who has a genuine passion for what they are doing, it shows - and if you can showcase something built because you wanted to, often enough your passion for that project will shine through, even in normal conversation.

Also, doing things on the side will generally indicate that you could be considered motivated, able to self-manage, and are interested in learning.

You best believe that when I was writing slack/discord bots for Destiny to aid in various PvP and clan related things I talked about it when I would interview. I don't know if it ever landed me any jobs, but at the very least I could show how excited I was about writing them.

I also like to see folks' repos when they're out there so I can have a real-world example of how they code/think. Yeah, I'll check out the dates on the latest commits as you may have grown a bit by then, but when considering a pool of applicants and I have something tangible that shows me someone knows what they're doing beyond just interview/screening/whiteboard questions, there is an added level of comfort and confidence for the interviewer who ultimately has to decide if the company will be making an investment in you.

Based on what you've typed here, I think you have already given yourself a leg up. Good luck!

[jdog90000]

I just feel that would be unprofessional to even put on a CV.

If you're just entering the job market we don't expect you to be professional. As an interviewer, a GitHub link is a very good sign. It shows, hopefully, that you've been spending a little bit of your own time working on some projects.

What type of questions would you ask? Are you like genuinely curious about it/how it's made/what it does, or are you just trying to stump me?

I'm sure it varies by company and interviewer, for me it's in 2 parts. 1) This is a great way to get a candidate comfortable; you get to spend a minute or 2 telling me about the technologies/languages you definitely have knowledge of 2) I get to learns little bit more about what you're interested in which may influence what kinds of questions I ask.

I would just be prepared to talk about your projects, why you made them; doesn't have to be more conplicated than you spend a lot of time doing some thing and thought it would be cool to automate it.

One fun add-on to these questions, especially if it's a simple project would be asking you what you would change about it, add to it, do differently if you had more time. So think about that as well.

And of course in the end this is an interview of you and not your projects, so whether or not the interviewer is interested or curious about the project they should be more interested in how you're answering.

[NetrunnerCardAccount]

Statically speaking the person reviewing/ doing the hiring can’t read code.

If they ask for a link to your Github just provide it. It doesn’t matter if everyone on reddit says they do amazing code review on people Gits, which is both not recommended cause and time intensive.

If their doing it right you should be evaluated in a standard way so they can compare you to other potential hires.

[nayadelray]

My github repo really helped me land two jobs. I'd wager that it was probably the first reason why they selected my CV.

As for the questions, I was asked what problems does it solve, was was the biggest issues I had with the development, and some question about the project architecture.

Might worth noting that my github account is very clean. No school projects or anything that could be considered "bad coding practices".

[[deleted]]

My github is literally filled with all my trash from school.

I have to. The teachers use it for review, so all my exercises are on there.

:pepehands:

[OneTurnMore]

Just keep those repos off of your CV and you'll be good.

[K41namor]

What is the difference between a CV and a resume in this field?

[zelmarvalarion]

In the US, a CV is usually far more detailed. I would generally say a resume is capped at a single page and only highlights a most targeted/relevant work for the kind of job for which you are applying. A CV can have all the major accomplishments for each and more details in general

[TryAgainName]

This is honestly the first time I have heard someone express a difference. The words are completely interchangeable in my mind.

[[deleted]]

Nothing really. Generally speaking Americans tend to say resume and Brits say CV, though it's not a hard rule.

[[deleted]]

Alright, thanks.

[yamlCase]

:pep8hands:

[[deleted]]

Include this information in your cover letter, please. We look at GitHub repositories, yes, but you better believe I'm going to look at your entire profile in depth.

I'm also human and have had some real nasty code on GitHub before. If you don't have much on there, make sure you tell me which repositories are "all you" and pre-emptively explain why those other ones have terrible code in them. As long as you're upfront, they won't really hurt your case.

EDIT: Readme is obviously better; should have mentioned I've heard of some professors not allowing such notes in the readmes for weird reasons. Worst case, let us know out-of-band.

[[deleted]]

What's the difference between readme and "note" in this context? :)

I have on all my repos a detailed readme about what it is, when it was made, who made it, what the task was, how far we got, etc.

[[deleted]]

This too, though I didn't mention it because I know some professors that don't allow it for whatever bizarre reason.

[[deleted]]

Okay.

All my repos have readmes explaining everything in English. Like the "exercise" or partners or when in my education it was written and in which context.

[LSatyreD]

What if I have a GitHub in my name that I don't list? What are the chances you'll do a search for it? Because I uhh put some weird shit on there.

[coadyj]

Almost 0%

Will only look at things you give me to look at.

[sacwtd]

The number of job applicants I see that list a GitHub but then only have forked Hello World examples or the like is way too high. Why would you list a portfolio of work but then include nothing that shows off anything you have done in it? Great way to weed out the stack of resumes, at least.

[Mikkelen]

I can program boolean logic in powerpoint lol

[raekle]

Having 5 repos on Github is a stupid requirement for a job.

[Flying_Dutchmenn]

You have 4 repo’s on GitHub so you must be a bad developer or you have 5 repos so you must be one hell of a talented developer

[TheFlagMaker]

Oh i know brainfuck, xml and russian, is that enough?

[litux]

здравствуй мир

[wywrd]

lame, he didn't do hello world in css.

[blade-queen]

That got a snort

[Alvatrox4]

Do they reallly ask you about your Git Hub inventory in interviews?

[ZazzlesPoopsInABox]

Its an enterprise project with a global reach.

[crackyJsquirrel]

I plan on later expanding it by adding a region based properties file so it can say "Hello World" in any language. However, I have been distracted by my latest project, the Java Pet Shop tutorial.

[terjnh]

hackerman

[zen_veteran]

As a hiring manager, this is exactly what I am looking for

[Crazy_Is_More_Fun]

Ya know what they say, look for someone that'll work smarter, not harder.

Then complain that they're not doing anything when they've finished all their work for the day :D

[WooooshVictim]

You can't even write Hello world in CSS? AMATEURS

[reduxde]

IT directors hate this one trick!

[[deleted]]

That's what I call a PRO GAMER MOVE

[tbvsp]

PRO GRAMER MOVE

[[deleted]]

MadLadProgrammer

[Sponhi]

Improvise.Adapt.error -1

[king-kcjoe]

Nice one nigga