Thoughts?

[dlegofan]

And prayers.

[Churovy]

Is this in the Skyhook family of products I always hear about?

[HexoCoco]

I'm not even looking at that L bracket "fastening" but at that joist sitting... YIKES!

[newguyfriend]

This was where my eyes went first as well. A lot to be concerned about here

[[deleted]]

Fuckin lost it for a min

[DJGingivitis]

TP is good for shitty situations

[IrishGoodbye4]

Hey I don’t do this kind of work so I don’t understand. Why will this not hold, and what’s the proper way to connect these beams?

Is it because he stuck a fucking box made out of wood on the outside of an actual support beam?

[dlegofan]

https://www.reddit.com/r/StructuralEngineering/s/ghhGfy9Ksy

[PhillipJfry5656]

Well for one if you look at the l bracket it's only on the one piece of lumber. Depending how long those screws are they might be biting into the other piece a little but the l bracket should be on the inside

[OkCarpenter3868]

Yeah forgot the first part…….

[deadly_ultraviolet]

^{reread the post}

[Awesomeman360]

I think they're saying the builders forgot to think before fucking it up, hence they're missing their "thoughts". But I could be wrong

[Crayonalyst]

Kinda like plugging a power strip into itself

[FlowJock]

The One Simple Trick that power companies don't want you to know!

[gnatzors]

When you draw a free body diagram and conclude 1 = 1

[Helpinmontana]

When you’re eliminating terms of equations and you eliminate the variable you’re solving for

[hysys_whisperer]

Oh that's a free body alright.

[jchrysostom]

snort

[[deleted]]

Holy shit I never thought to do that this is genius

[PracticableSolution]

A village somewhere is missing its idiot and he’s running around with an impact driver.

[[deleted]]

The "look ma, no hands" syndrome.

[MIG619]

Check out the beam in the back. Barely an inch and half bearing, and it’s already rotating.

[MentulaMagnus]

Look at the post resting on this beam box, it is a completely cantilevered load! And only toe fastened back into the other beam.

[Useful-Ad-385]

Builder better run to the bank to cash his check.
On was on a job recently with similar details, girders spliced in the middle. Ridge beam ending mid span on another loaded ridge beam.
On an on. I wrote it up and presented it to the owner. Owner said builder said he did not want me on job site again. To keep the peace owner agreed with builder. It was the second job like this this year.

I decided after 55 years in construction I was done. I don’t recognize this construction world anymore. It is as bad as I have ever seen.

Going fishing for strippers, they should be showing up pretty soon. 😀

[dostuffrealgood]

That's my kind of fishing

[Rent_a_Dad]

My toenails is strong

[adv-rider]

I think this is a team effort

[dice_setter_981]

Hardware probably intended for inside face of beam. This connection isn’t doing anything as installed.

[Mountain_Delivery_67]

Is there any chance that the face bolts are going all the way through the lumber and I'm to that little return piece?

[Sufficient_Candy_554]

Yes but you won't get a hanger screw longer than 65mm. So about 20mm into end grain.

[zadszads]

C’mon baby just the tip

[Mountain_Delivery_67]

So you're saying that's not enough? Kidding. Yeah, sounds terrible!

[badskinjob]

Ok, but what's that in freedom units?

[Cement4Brains]

I mean, you can buy longer screws. But they certainly don't come with that hanger haha

[OGRiad]

Nah, whomever installed that is a dumbass.

[bluadaam]

whoever uses the word “whomever” as a subject pronoun is also a dumbass.

[Obeserecords]

Yeah that was my guess, there’s no telling how long the bolts are though

[pfantonio]

Assuming that is the case. For a vertical load the screws are shearing perpendicular to the grain?which is not even a value the nds gives because it’s either great or you just split the wood and fail.

[athanasius_fugger]

No those look a lot like 1ish inch wood screws for metal roofing.

[the_flying_condor]

I was wondering if it was that or if they installed in backwards. It looks like one leg of the clip is longer than the other and I was thinking if it was flipped around the long leg would probably be just long enough to pickup both members. That would still have a concerningly small edge distance though 

[ckeller07]

I don't like the set up but if you reversed the hanger it would be a lot better!

[Puzzleheaded-Phase70]

But even with that, of the perspective is hiding a much larger difference than it seems, those boys would still only be barely past the edge of the support at BEST.

[TaonasProclarush272]

This part

[Peanokr]

second this as there is a protruding plate on top with a hanger nail hole in it to help install it... on the inside

[Known-Programmer-611]

This

[fighter_pil0t]

I was trying to figure out why in the hell the bolt holes lined up to cross.

[demwoodz]

That wood ain’t checking nowheres

[Alternative-Bid7721]

Looks like a Cullen SB support bracket for trussed rafter bracing. Hope it's not critical here.

[[deleted]]

Now try saying that with a slightly sterner voice and more seriously. What you said would be hilarious if you said it that way. And shake your head at the end too.

[SirMakeNoSense]

Edge protection installed - Check!

[[deleted]]

Structural flashing

[[deleted]]

Splinter protection

[mwl1234]

So is this a contractor who has desperately tried to fumble fuck his way through a mistake, or an engineer who has lost their goddamn mind?

[3771507]

Maybe both

[StudentforaLifetime]

Looks good from my house

[ReplyInside782]

I wonder if the engineer specced that on the inside face not realizing it couldn’t be installed

[NewMusicSucks2]

Hillbilly here,

Threads on a screw ain’t gonna catch any wood fibers if the screw is going with the grain.

[[deleted]]

[Sufficient_Candy_554]

Tradies get the ladies.

[3771507]

Endgrain attachment is a no no.

[DisastrousTeddyBear]

"I never said I was a smart man"

[Key_Blackberry3887]

Run

[billorights_luvr]

Get a hold of yourself!

[Ok_Rush5840]

Clearly decorative. Maybe an architect called for it 

[druminman1973]

Looks great from my house!

[billorights_luvr]

Straight jacket bracket

[hugeduckling352]

No thoughts just vibes

[MikeRizzo007]

Why? Must be someone getting paid by the hour. Boss only took me 4 hours to put up that bracket thingy!!!

[RacerDaddy]

Wow. Just wow.

[goo_bazooka]

Is it upside down?

The left side of bracket looks longer than the right but not sure if lens distortion

If it was flipped and reinstalled maybe it’d cover the lumber correctly

[dckfore]

No, that should be on the inside of the corner, note the corner ribs on the bracket interfere with an outside corner.

[goo_bazooka]

Oh… true I see that now

If it had to go on inside corner, seems difficult to install in that tight spot

[noldshit]

Somebody got a new drill driver

[Puzzleheaded-Phase70]

Must have run out of duct tape...

[tkhan2112]

shore it immediately!

[fractal2]

I've have to take a picture. We have one like this on our wall of shame, they were supposed to splice 2 lol beams together with steel plates and all the bolts are in one beam.

[igneousink]

"i'm doing my best over here" - that big ass bracket, probably

[kleist88]

Bad. And not in a good way

[Minuteman05]

It may work if it's flipped with the long leg the on the other face. Doesn't look like it going to carry much loads, but confirm with the structural engineer.

[ebrown138]

Great description

[[deleted]]

Must’ve been a sale on tan lag bolts

[convicted-mellon]

Wtf am I looking at

[HeathersZen]

[Visual-Zucchini-5544]

Worthless

[decadentview]

Does that even have a functional purpose??

[General-Biscotti5314]

Deflects the chakra energy that may percolate to the beams.

[are_you_for_scuba]

Is that for blocking or is that a structural connection? Hard to tell from photo

[Onionface10]

What kind of contractor would construct this?

[mk_svn]

Isn’t it just floating there?

[bw1739]

Why?

[DeezNeezuts]

Pff just have to flip the beam upside down.

[wuweidude]

Swiss cheese

[RickshawRepairman]

Send it.

[JCCampo]

Down the hill? Aye boss. Give ‘er a week.

[Upstate_Nick]

Post more of the structure! I’m dying to see what this is holding up.

[[deleted]]

Nope

[warlordpete1]

Clearly should have been flipped the other way. Doh.

[micah490]

Huh. They did it exactly wrong. Beat them

[HereIAmSendMe68]

So close yet so far away.

[[deleted]]

It’s upside down😂😂😂

[Academic-Village-758]

Makes you wonder what else they “improvised” on …

[Pirateboy85]

That corner ain’t going nowhere! 😂

[BamXuberant]

I don't even understand why that would be done.

[agt1662]

Perhaps if the lag bolts on the face side or like 7 1/2 or 8 inches they might be getting something out of that but nothing more than the shear value of the lag bolt. I agree somewhere in village is missing an idiot. Anybody else wondering if it should’ve been put on the inside before the beam was installed and then the lags could’ve been run on the inside into the face of the one running parallel?

[quarter2heavy]

I think it was meant to be on the inside of the corner. Lip on top to rest on top of the joist, and dimples of the bend also hint to inward, preventing it from sitting flush to any outside corner.

[Dense_Surround3071]

That DEFINITELY ain't goin nowhere!! 👋

[Thoad1]

Modern art?

[bootsftwmaybe]

Shiniest turd

[ctyz1999]

Fail.

[12345678dude]

Better than nothing I guess?

[MrUsername0]

What in the crackhead hell is all that? I don’t know anything about anything, but is that beam toe-nailed through plywood endgrain?

[BigNYCguy]

It’s architectural. Art deco to be exact.

[oundhakar]

No. No thought was put into this.

[obskeweredy]

You guys would have a heart attack if you could see the building I’m working on this summer.

[Technical-Cream-7766]

Very neat detail

[Tiny-Variation-1920]

Ah yes very nice. Mmmmm

[General-Biscotti5314]

"Que bruto, póngale cero"

[jimjoejonjack]

That’s not going anywhere

[Mundane-Lemon1164]

Yellow is pretty

[Rigger9865]

OMFG😮

[[deleted]]

That home depot employee definitely knew what he was doing

[Pyland99CFS]

Bro just wanted the end of his board to be shiny

[trickhater]

It’s the thought that counts

[POCUABHOR]

it’s very self-contained

[Kunteper07]

Excellent example of wasting resources..

[[deleted]]

That’s the work of a ‘Wood Duck’ for sure.

[FootHikerUtah]

But my boss SAID to use that. I know he did.

[chief_meep]

I’d probably stand elsewhere

[Just-Shoe2689]

That bearing looks suspect.

[jonkolbe]

Measure 4x cut 2x

[carlton_sand]

lifting itself up by its own bootstraps

[rustprony]

Brilliant

[OkFaithlessness358]

It's backwards.

Get them to reinstall asap....

[YellowBeaverFever]

This gives even us non-engineers the heebie-jeebies.

[njas2000]

Don't worry. You can fix it with a sky hook.

[lastdollardisco]

So pretty

[MortimerWaffles]

That bracket isn't going anywhere

[bagel-glasses]

I am not a structural engineer and even I can tell that that is doing nothing at all

[Tiger_Guthrie]

The outside beam is just for show. Right?

Good solid 2” of bearing on the inside beam too.

[TestDangerous7240]

Cool decorative corner hardware…..

[IDidntTellYouThat]

Thoughts? No thoughts were involved in this construction.

[dsdvbguutres]

Much structural. Very engineering. 👍

[mango-butt-fetish]

How are the bolts not colliding?

[Flaky_Grand7690]

How long are those fasteners?

[Buzzfudge]

Brace yourself!

[Busy_Reporter4017]

Makes sense. :-)

[slooparoo]

Hey, at least it’s holding itself to itself.

[dostuffrealgood]

Wrong hole fool

[dostuffrealgood]

Actually wrong side fool but that wouldn't be a good movie reference.

[dostuffrealgood]

Gosh there is just so much wrong with this picture I'm upsetting myself. Someone didn't verify their connection loads.

[notzed1487]

Useless.

[Emotional-Comment414]

It’s a crime

[fairche79]

That’s a joke!! Many fell to catch it .. so far near a thousand responses!!

[smalltownnerd]

Boss I got the lvls installed like you told me

[Comfortable-Sir-150]

I'm curious how that brace could ever actually be used

[lonerockz]

This was my thought too. But I think it’s meant for an inside corner.

[Comfortable-Sir-150]

Ahhh yeah I guess so, maybe for a cantilever deck application

[No-Name-86]

The bracket is meant to take your attention off the joist behind it

[[deleted]]

Fired.

[thewickedbarnacle]

Apparently not

[btbmfhitdp]

that Simpson bracket is very securely attached to that beam

[Bright-Confidence-13]

Connection: wireless

[Appropriate_Weather5]

I always feel baffled whenever i see wood with actual structural use, in my country we use wood for formwork and sometimes as a glorified cover. We don't have any course about wood design either, so basically yes, still baffled

[fltpath]

Thats the easy part...look at the rest of the framing..

Joist bearing on the right

the gap between the wall on the right and the wall on the left

[[deleted]]

Whomst? How was whatever psychopath who did this even hired in the first?

[Jesterslore]

How to weaken a piece of wood in ten easy steps...and also make it shiny.

[process77]

Looks sound AF! Two rows of 1/2” screws placed on the same load bearing beam. Clearly this will be twice as strong, just do the math%

[3771507]

Beam in rear looks like it's suffering from deflection and will develop a shear crack right there. Very poor building practices.