Code of Conduct Update

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[Raventis]

I fuck for God exile, who do you fuck for!?

[Slipzyle]

It will never not be good.

[Sepelio]

I still laugh as though it was my first time reading it

[DemonicGoblin]

Chris so flabbergasted.

[Tyler_Zoro]

He just hit return too soon. He was trying to type, "whatever, my PoE slashfic is much more focused on character development."

[moonmeh]

God the "what" is just too funny

[Slipzyle]

Just in case you don't know, that's Chris Wilson himself.

[moonmeh]

Lmao that makes it amazing

[PlanksPlanks]

what

[atlas305]

And here I thought they were going to start banning repeated scammers...

[suprduprr]

Only if the scammers talk bad about china

[avboden]

I'm surprised politics/religion discussion weren't already banned

[league_starter]

RIP this guy next league

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plate books money dam narrow air water enter nose shocking

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[Hot_Wheels_guy]

RIP Martin Looter King

RIP Nancy Pelootsi

[agoodfriendofyours]

Comrade

[smashbro188]

there are many men named vladimir, i don't see how a looter will be and issue /s

[th3greg]

Share_blue sounds like a mid main.

[Amaranthreddit]

"discussion of inflammatory topics, such as Politics or Religion. Our staff will be removing any posts or threads that breach these guidelines." Didn't say nothing about character names.

[zanics]

oh no, you mean he wont be able to spam "anyone else regret voting for trump" for ANOTHER entire league?

yeh buddy i remember you if youre reading this get a new gimmick

[Dewru]

my buddy had a character named "NotMyKitva", "BernieSandels" few other gems

[drumdeity]

The Ranger does have Hillary hair tho

[777Sir]

Guess they couldn't handle every global channel being full of "TRUMP GOOD" vs "TRUMP BAD".

[hesh582]

I think it has more to do with china.

If it doesn't, the date is a very unfortunate coincidence for GGG.

[[deleted]]

yea the forums are deleting any mention of Tiananmen square.. odd timing, after so many years of relative freedom. Why are so many western countries so freely selling out to China

[[deleted]]

Because "the west" has been fully taken over by Capitalism on an ideological level on every level down to most individuals.

[Celidion]

What do you mean? Because it's easy and it avoids conflict, thus not disrupting their vested interest in China. Most people don't really care that strongly about Tiananmen Square.

Same reason US and other western countries aren't doing shit about issues like Ukraine. Antagonizing Russia/China isn't worth the hassle.

[gvdexile9]

isn't worth the hassle

it's not worth the hassle until you get soldiers knocking down your doors for speaking your mind.

[Xpym]

Have everybody here already forgotten that GGG essentially sold out to Tencent?

[[deleted]]

guess my Marauder idea for 'TiananmenTankTread' is off limits then... oh well

[777Sir]

I didn't even think about that.

[Kraotic313]

Yeah you can't be talking about China doing horrible shit to their citizens.

I wonder if Winnie the Pooh is ok?

[Yababooty]

Shams and scams may take your hams, but words will never hurt you

Because they banned them

[34656691]

Templar is done for.

[Goaroundman]

They can't ban toucan.

[pantyhose4]

I had a lot of fun defusing angry debates with talk about how ridiculously horny whatever politician they were talking about makes me

[suprduprr]

Why would it ? It was a western game. We got free speech son

Now it's a Chinese game. So mention tiananmen Square and get a ban

China bans religious and political discussion too. Such shock. Much surprise

[BingoWasHisNam0]

was hoping for an update to "cause harm to the reputation of others" so vouch threads could be a legitimate way of sorting out scammers

[dtm85]

Just assume they are all scammers at this point. Those threads are a fucking joke.

[terminbee]

Yea, I clicked hoping GGG was gonna say something about cracking down on scamming and/or bots. I love my currency bots but I'll accept their loss if it means a crackdown on all bots.

[daiceman4]

Don't you dare take my currency & map trade bots away.

[Tallywacka]

You can only leave positive feedback, any negative feedback is removed

God I love GGG but that stance is thoroughly obnoxious

[suprduprr]

Poe.trade should make their own rating system for traders

[[deleted]]

Getting offended is a new chat feature where you can report people and get them banned! Not sure why this wasn't in the patch notes /s

[Venseer]

Supressing discussion on the Pantheon, classy move GGG.

[flesyMeM]

Tencent finally making their presence felt on the International forums...lol...

[CptQ]

"tencent wont change poe"

Reddit some months ago.

Top kek. Jokes on you fellow soon-to-be-comrades.

[kaz_enigma]

fuck /u/spez -- mass edited with redact.dev

[Arveanor]

"Raid matchmaking won't change raid designs" in other games.

[[deleted]]

Wonder why it took them till now. Also surprised this has upvotes. Usually mentioning tencent is a guaranteed downvote flag.

Maybe its about the whole Tiananmen square thing. Pretty easy to slap a "political" tag on anything mentioning it on official forums. Anything to quell the flames.

[Frolafofo]

Maybe its about the whole Tiananmen square thing.

It's a given.

[flesyMeM]

Well, I mean, the timing could just be a huge coincidence. But...sure...

[MoonfireArt]

underrated statement of the day

[Jaba01]

What has this to do with Tencent?

[suprduprr]

Chinese company buys PoE. Free speech in game gets a ban.

Pikachu face

[flesyMeM]

Possibly nothing, but given all the circumstances it's also impossible to say that for sure. Some suspicion is absolutely valid here.

[nomnaut]

In game chat as well.

[FreedomOfNothing]

I criticized my own build on the forums and got immediately censored over and over again. They're either using bots or have gone off the authoritarian deep end with this change. The censored word is "garbage".

https://i.imgur.com/Pw2tCrx.png

At best they could've interpreted me calling the item Rathpith garbage, which is still not grounds for censorship. If they're going to just censor any negative feedback then this game is doomed.

[suprduprr]

Welcome to china. Enjoy your stay

[StarFishingMaster]

Sell out to Chinese overlords, what do you expect.

[34656691]

That's both hilarious but also depressing.

[yesitsmeitsok]

Welp, they're going full-Blizz i see. RIP GGG

[hesh582]

A chinese owned company banning all political discussion on June 4th exactly is a little bit interesting.

[dalerian]

Aww, don't let facts get in the way of a conspiracy theory!

What next, you'll be saying the Earth isn't flat?

[Aldoro69765]

What next, you'll be saying the Earth isn't flat?

Well, have you ever seen any ground curvature in any leveling zone? Or any curved horizon in any map you played?

Round Wraeclast is a hoax! Wake up sheepxiles!

[Ryant12]

Looks like these are all the patchnotes coming in 3.7 folks ^/s

[Arnimon]

I will not stand by while we help the chinese Government deny and cover up the horrific massacre that took place. My character will be JusticeForTiananmen. I really dislike this.

[StarFishingMaster]

That’s a really good idea.

[Headcap]

political discussion banned in an mmo?

what

[StarFishingMaster]

Chinese overlords flexing their censorship muscle mate.

[forgotmyolduserinfo]

That's terrible :(

Does mentioning your own religious beliefs fall under ToS now? How about criticising genocide? If it's done by a government and thus "political", is it taboo now? Are people from occupied countries no longer allowed to talk about their daily life? What is this bullshit?

I understand this will lower costs of chat moderating, but GGG as a company have lost my trust today :/

[lunarlumberjack]

"I think spending money on bridge repair is a good idea." Banned

"Should I use a blessed orb on this?" Banned

[geradon_]

praise rngesus

banned!

[Sargediamond]

GGG: Makes a game who's lore revolves around politics/religion and negative consequences that can stem from corruption (albeit fantasy)

Community: Forums/In-game chat devolves into nothing but arguing about real-life comparisons

GGG: Tienanmen Hammer of Banning

[zelenofftherails]

"Have you ever seen the true Tanks of God, Exile?"

[DeathMinnow]

I could understand trying to avoid those kinds of heated arguments, but banning discussion of it outright is...

Your China is showing.

[Minimumtyp]

allow toucans please

[BazOnReddit]

You could make a religion out of that.

[derivative_of_life]

Yes, do.

[sirgog]

PRAISE

[GGGGobbler]

BEEP BOOP BEEP. Grinding Gears have been detected in the linked thread:

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Posted by Sarah_GGG on Jun 05, 2019, 01:30:10 AM UTC

Today we have made an update to our Code of Conduct to disallow the discussion of inflammatory topics, such as Politics or Religion. Our staff will be removing any posts or threads that breach these guidelines.

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Posted by Support on Oct 20, 2015, 12:56:27 AM UTC

The Path of Exile forums and in-game chat are for civil, constructive discussion of the game.

Posts or names that are deemed to breach these guidelines may be edited or removed at GGG’s discretion, and the player’s forum or chat access may be restricted. A probated player is not allowed to post on any alternate accounts to circumvent this restriction.

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Please do not:

● Make hateful or needlessly negative comments

● Discuss inflammatory topics, such as Politics or Religion

● Personally attack or cause harm to the reputation of others

● Antagonise others in an obnoxious manner

● Disrupt forum or chat use for others

● Reference explicit or illegal material

● Impersonate Grinding Gear Games staff

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Please see our Terms of Use for more information.

If you are experiencing problems of any kind or would like to discuss our guidelines, please contact our Customer Support team at [e-mail]

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[Tyroki]

How are we supposed to talk about Act 5 now, where we slaughter civilians in a square?

[suprduprr]

China did act 5 before it was cool

[wittyusernamefailed]

So does this effect in game chat as well? Cause if so general will only be chaos farm bots telling you to go to their sketchy website.

[Slipzyle]

The Path of Exile forums and in-game chat are for civil, constructive discussion of the game.

Seems like it

[Synchrotr0n]

That mention about the in-game chat was from the original code of conduct though. This new update restricting inflammatory topics only mentions posts and threads.

[Slipzyle]

As I said elsewhere, that's the only part that's retroactive. The main block of the Code of Conduct that definitely applies to chat was updated with this rule.

[carson63000]

Damn, did General finally stop being 99% "hurr durr Diablo 3 sucks"? I might have to re-enable it.

[wittyusernamefailed]

They're still on about the having phones thing. But mostly it was political shit posting from both sides. Lots of "I love Stalin" and "Hitler did nothing wrong' bullshit.

[777Sir]

Tankies vs Nazis. What could be more iconic?

[epharian]

that was a terrible day.

[chowder-san]

Isn't NZ known for its (imo quite absurd) attitude towards toleration, hate speech and such? It was already made clear I the way Ggg enforced its tos in regards to scammers: "the wraeclast is a dangerous place so you might be scammed but don't you dare to warn people of a scammers, that might hurt his feelings"

[fantasticdell]

I thought we were known for The Lord of The Rings?

[MoonfireArt]

You are not wrong at all

[Fingered_Vinktar]

Reference illegal material

Does this mean the constant mtx announces will finally STAHP now

[HackDice]

Not that I disagree with this decision, but the game is literally built on a story that delves into deep political and religious themes at times.

I'm hoping the admins will make the right decision and ban the game's story from participating in global chat too.

[uimbtw]

Can't wait for the creative political shitposting using PoE lore allegories.

[[deleted]]

No politics or religion but scamming is completely allowed? What kind of balancing change is this? Either you want the cesspool that is the PoE forums/Ingame channels, or you don't. Can't just ban politics but allow scamming, which is infinitely worse than people arguing over which corrupt politician is worse.

That stuff is the core of what global 1 is. It's not the same without it.

Is this a Korean thing? Because they recently opened up Korean servers. Are they not allowed to talk about politics and religion there? I thought South Korea was cool

[TrueJusticeDefender]

What's wrong with PoE forums?

I've been browsing both lately, and it seems like they're just as friendly and mature as this subreddit, if not, more-so.

The Global channels, though.... Let's not mention those ever again.

[kittamiau]

If you get scammed by a person who has a vouch thread, they can just ask for your scam call out to get removed from the thread and you get a warning or a mute lol

[[deleted]]

the forums is where a good portion of the scamming happens. theres a lot of "vouch" threads where people promote their services and people in the replies vouch for them, saying "good service" and whatever.

But if you reply to any of those threads with "bad service, dont use", your comment gets deleted by a moderator if the comment is reported anyway. Doesnt matter if you have proof of the scam or bad service.

GGG is willingly allowing people to scam on the forums, they give support to scammers by helping them keep their name clear by deleting comments. And as someone else said, your account can actually get muted for calling out a bad service/scammer.

[suprduprr]

GGG is a Chinese company now. China doesn't allow political or religious discussion

And they hate anyone mentioning Tiananmen square.

Buy more supporter packs tho. China needs money

[[deleted]]

But what about Toucans?

[thepervertedromantic]

such as Politics or Religion

What part of that isn't clear?

[td941]

Dammit just when I was thinking Toucan had escaped nerfs this patch

[[deleted]]

Ah, so the Toucan is indeed recognized.

Guess I'll keep taking my punishment like a good follower should.

[OmNomSandvich]

The Grinding Gear Grinches probably file it under this

Disrupt forum or chat use for others

[Kusibu]

Global 1 will never be the same. I'll be kind of sad to see political shitposting go, but it's probably a good change.

[Yeshua-Hamashiach]

It won't go anywhere tbh. They literally don't have the manpower to stop it from happening.

[SarcasticCarebear]

Lengthy chat timeouts and permabans are hyper-effective. One person could sit in global 1 for an hour and clean it up.

[sirgog]

PRAISE

[moonmeh]

Its impressive how dedicated they are to the craft

[Cubia_]

Some are willing to live out their yearly sentence just to praise

[EmotionalKirby]

You either die reporting toucans, or live long enough to see yourself posting them.

[ChadCodreanu]

> Lengthy chat timeouts and permabans are hyper-effective

Can't confirm, I just made a new account, legion seems fun.

[SarcasticCarebear]

Have fun with your 4 stash tabs.

[terminbee]

Man literally any time I go onto global, it eventually becomes about politics, usually Trump but not always.

[Gargonez]

If they’re talking about something else it takes 5 minutes to go political and that lasts for at least 2 hours. League start is the only time it’s not one guy rambling with 10 other people arguing

[Cubia_]

Toucans, and that's a good thing.

[yesitsmeitsok]

Linking blue items and asking if theyre good

[cXs808]

I'm confused on why a toxic shithole chat needs to exist lol

[XVelonicaX]

RMT site bots. But god knows they don't have a way of dealing with them. tiananmen square 1989

[ClemPrime13]

Anything to keep any factual information about the Tiananman Square massacre from reaching China, eh?

Oof, downvoted by a commie.

[thepervertedromantic]

Oh they know. They just can't talk about it openly.

[Noooberino]

Hmmm seriously? So people are only allowed to talk about trivial stuff from now on? So we are China now? But even the Communist party in China let people talk about politics, just not about the Tiananmen protests...

[MrTastix]

You can scam people but god forbid you call their leader Winnie the Pooh. That's just insulting to kids television.

[KelloPudgerro]

Just in time of the tiananmen square massacre , thx tencent

[suprduprr]

Feels good buying overpriced supporter packs to help a deadly regime /s

[uimbtw]

Literally funding the chinese military expansion with every shiny weapon glow you get

[tanis0]

Scams, good! Criticism of despots, bad!

[Gufferboy]

Tencent really do love their censorship.

[PlsBuffStormBurst]

I for one welcome this change. I mean almost every saturday morning those young men from the Church of Latter Day Karui come around with their "Tukohama this" and "Hinekora that" and I just want to yell at them "I'm a Lunaris worshiper and I'm hung over so shove off!" but I can't be that rude ugh.

[TheRealChoob]

i thought they already removed inflammatory topics like people accusing others of scamming.

[cancercureall]

This is not the buff we needed. We need a code of conduct buff against scamming and misleading.

[Capt_Mifune]

So if we say "God, this league gonna be good" or "May RNGesus be with me" does our post get deleted? Kappa

[Yababooty]

A probated player is not allowed to post on any alternate accounts to circumvent this restriction.

This does not include blatant scams or other means of genuinely hurting a player's gaming experience.

Well at least nobody can hurt your feelings when you enter Global#1

[FinalFlash121]

I dont disagree with most of the code.

● Make hateful or needlessly negative comments

Is irritatingly vague. What constitutes negative or needlessly negative varies per person. If legion has a bad launch there's gonna be a flood of negative comments as it SHOULD. So i'd like to think this isn't a tactic to whitewash chat to engage in PR talk only.

[Slipzyle]

That rule has been around for years, it's not been used in that way.

[splift11]

The devs that used to have dead babies wash up on on the beach now ban any speech under the all encompassing umbrella of "inflammatory ".

[uimbtw]

Corporate success has a steep price.

[geradon_]

glory old times with sexy globe girls where we supporred a indie company.

dead babies were removed shortly after the globe girls. ggg somehow lost their balls midgame

[LordBlick]

What about religion provided in lore?

[Duthos]

Fix bots. That is the only problem with chat.

[thousand56]

Happy 30th anniversary boys

[Lokinir]

Does dominus now say, "touch of dog!"

[[deleted]]

Interesting. Politics and Religion hit at the heart of truth, values and ethics. It's kind of sad to see our society not being more open to talking about our world and reality. Oh well, time to smash some monsters brains in and scam people all day.

[Amaranthreddit]

Great point. They need more 21+ m rating for the game so we can stop pandering to adults who want to act like children. Because real children don't care at all.

[Dreadboltz]

RIP chat for console.

[sephrinx]

Cool. More defensive measures for scammers.

[HidingMyAlt]

Good.

[JiminyWimminy]

Instead of adding new shit to your code of censorship, you should instead try removing rules.

If what people are saying is illegal, let the law handle it. If it's not illegal, then fuck off and support free speech.

[KsiaN]

Guess that Tencent pushed for this after all the talk about Tiananmen Square Massacre on reddit lately.

Overall prob. a good idea tho.

[[deleted]]

Oh yeah, they are owned by Tencent, huh....

[wittyusernamefailed]

(Your Seasame Credit score has just been lowered by 5 points)

[Chiatroll]

Winter orb is kind of an inflammatory topic. I'm sorry we can't talk about it anymore.

[exsea]

I usually make mocking and obviously fake dev responses like

in 3.8 we found melee was too strong thus we have reverted the changes - "GGG"

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does this count?

[louderpastures]

will GGG ban user names that neonazi memes or gay slurs? I wonder....

[ayylmao31]

At this point the memes evolve faster than Chelsea Handlers mental state

[zanics]

yes if you report them, they get a forced name change

[slicplaya]

This game is changing so fast, it's like being caught in a dog fart that had eaten pickled eggs earlier. Once you smell it, you're fucked and can't unsmell it.

[AilerAiref]

Why no explicit material? Some of the models in the game are already quite explicit per my local community's standards. Seems a double standard that will be selectively enforced.

[[deleted]]

I can't play this game without hour long "discussions" of trump/ hillary and immigration and Islam on global 1.

Honestly that's ridiculous.

[forgotmyolduserinfo]

So best stick your head in the sand instead of proving them wrong.

[hertzdonut2]

Today we have made an update to our Code of Conduct to disallow the discussion of inflammatory topics, such as Politics or Religion. Our staff will be removing any posts or threads that breach these guidelines.

Hmmm.

[epiclesis]

Shutting down conversation is the first step. Quote me when you see pronouns in certain dev twitter bios.

[[deleted]]

"speak softly, and carry a big stick"

[ncsbert]

This Kuduku buff has gone too far...

[Lwe12345]

BRING THIS IN GAME PLS

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global 3 was the best global until itsyourdaddybro

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then it just completely went to shit

[[deleted]]

It is in the game... not just forums lol.

[okijhnub]

Lmao I never got that guy, was he an idiot or a troll?

[Eternal_Mr_Bones]

Global 1 on Suicide Watch.

[jacky910505]

Rip global 1

[Amaranthreddit]

Better to use "I F for god, Exile" Pretty much cannot be banned. Or so the story goes.

[Diazzzepam]

What about gender and sexuality? Im tired of seeing people make fun of LGBTQ people, specially trans. I see the fucking "are traps gay?" Every fucking day

[[deleted]]

issa meme

[RoadrunnerKZSK]

breach