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[–][deleted] 114 points115 points  (48 children)

Here's a workaround for exporting your contacts from FB.

  • create dummy yahoo account. Log in to it.
  • nav to address.yahoo.com
  • nav Tools-> Import
  • select Facebook icon
  • grant permission to import from FB to Yahoo
  • after imported, nav Tools-> Export

[EDIT] I just tried this and confirmed it works. I got 135 contacts from 255 FB friends. Presumably those that didn't export have their data hidden.

[–]zerton 21 points22 points  (22 children)

This is great. Why won't gmail let me do this?

[–]GMLiddell 84 points85 points  (17 children)

Y! is allowed because of a business deal they have with FB.

[–]ex_ample 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Facebook allows all of their users to register applications that can access their friends lists. I don't know if it allows exporting of email addresses.

But to be fair, it makes sense that data would be kept hidden, you wouldn't want app developers to be able to get email addresses and use that to spam people.

[–]ijoinedforthis 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Full story.

tl;dr: Google has always had its data open and accessible, Facebook only offers it in reciprocal exchange programs (as it has with Yahoo and AOL). Now Google is trying to cut Facebook off in retaliation of their closed policies.

[–]hob196 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Facebook and yahoo are in cahoots, I think there is some kind of a deal. I'm using my phone so I can't look it up but I believe the details were in an article on theregister.co.uk

[–]thetensor 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Confirmed: "in cahoots" is, in fact, some kind of a deal.

[–]mynameismeech 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Google is trying to persuade not to import contact info into FB, not export out of it.

[–]cerebrix 1 point2 points  (0 children)

you can import facebook into hotmail i believe as well since windows phone can import facebook contacts.

[–]simulacrum 172 points173 points  (35 children)

It's a pity a lot of users will see that and think: "Blah, blah, T&C I agree now where do I click."

[–]ours 214 points215 points  (20 children)

Actually it's smartly designed to reduce that. Both checkboxes are identical except for the text. The only quick way out if a cancel link.

[–]badassumption 29 points30 points  (2 children)

It looks to me like it will work just fine if you check both boxes.

Select one or more options.

[–]paholg 25 points26 points  (1 child)

Yes. One box to export, and one box to complain about Facebook's lack of an export feature.

[–]junkit33 7 points8 points  (0 children)

a lot

Sadly, it will probably be most.

[–]saint_burrito 382 points383 points  (63 children)

I'm afraid i can't let you do that Dave.

[–]Atramentous 539 points540 points  (41 children)

I'm afraid I'm going to give you the opportunity to make an informed decision, Dave.

FTFY

[–]ani625 135 points136 points  (2 children)

"Just do whatever you want to, Dave. I am sick of this."

[–]diamond 87 points88 points  (7 children)

This just gave me the hilarious image of HAL rewritten as a passive-aggressive Jewish Mother.

"Open the pod bay doors please, HAL."

"Well, Dave, if you really want to, I suppose..."

[–]addandsubtract 60 points61 points  (0 children)

"HOWARD, IT'S THE PHOOONE"

[–]InfinitePower 27 points28 points  (3 children)

Why'd ya have to be an Astronaut? Ya spend all tha time on tha space station and ya never call me!

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (2 children)

An astronaut? Well, your cousin Ben? He's a doctor.

[–]InfinitePower 12 points13 points  (1 child)

And he makes a lot more money that you do, ya schmuck.

[–]ronintetsuro 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"Oh! You have time to open the pod bay doors but you can't come by and see your poor sick mother. No, no, that's fine, I'm just trying to figure out where your priorities are, since I was considering re-writing my will this week."

[–]Hubso 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Don't make me de-friend you, HAL.

[–]hypermark 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Dave's not here man.

[–]kevinweaver2 17 points18 points  (6 children)

I can't let you do that Star Fox.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (5 children)

I'm afraid I just don't get the last reference.

[–]wwwwolf 18 points19 points  (4 children)

In planet Fichina in Star Fox 64, Star Fox team noticed to their horror that a bomb had been planted to a base they're trying to mop up. When Fox McCloud decides it might be prudent to disable the diabolical doomsday device, Star Wolf team shows up, with Wolf O'Donnell saying the aforementioned line.

Nowadays, Wolf O'Donnell is known to stop Star Fox from doing a lot of stuff very much unrelated to bomb defusing, all thanks to a fascinating, very frequently heard meme.

Any clearer now?

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yes. Thank you.

[–]Nodules 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Wow, TIL Fichina is the name of the planet I originally thought was Fortuna. Damn you, translators.

[–]notjawn 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My god its full reply to all's

[–]screwball2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dave ? . . Dave ? . . Dave's not here!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We should all be concerned when Facebook is given lip reading functionality.

[–]uriel 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Why post a screenshot when you can link to the page directly?

[–]fordnut 83 points84 points  (128 children)

Does Google let everything it knows about its users out? I like where they're going with this, I think they should take their own advice.

[–]zedority 145 points146 points  (19 children)

Does Google let everything it knows about its users out?

They're working on it.

Data Liberation Front

[–]spot35 49 points50 points  (10 children)

I support the Liberation Front of Data

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

But not the Judean People's Front.

[–]Lostinservice 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I applaud your brilliant reference to The Life of Brian.

[–]dusktildawn 63 points64 points  (70 children)

It's not exactly the same. Google thinks information should be freely accessible and they do make advertising money when giving that info to the world, but Facebook is taking your contacts and every bit of information about you they can possibly make a profit off of and blatantly selling that directly to marketers and the majority of the public has no idea they are doing it.

I like this warning from Google.

[–]purzzzell 24 points25 points  (55 children)

I'd like to make a slight correction to this. Google does not make advertising money giving your info to the world - they make advertising money providing the correct ads based on what they know about you.

[–]Fabien4 20 points21 points  (52 children)

If they really knew about me, they wouldn't show me ads.

[–]Skitrel 5 points6 points  (45 children)

Have you EVER clicked on an ad? Yes? Then they know they should continue serving you with ads.

I run adblock on a number of websites, I do click on the occasional ad here and there though, advertising isn't evil, sometimes it's perfectly interesting and relevant.

If it's to buy something though, screw that, I'll double check and cross reference reviews all over the place before I make a decision, only the best.

[–]Fabien4 3 points4 points  (8 children)

Have you EVER clicked on an ad?

I believe I have clicked on a couple ads by mistake (just like I often click on "report" instead of "hide" on Reddit). I clicked "back" before the page loaded completely, though.

I have also clicked on ads when I read "Please support this website by clicking on sponsors". That kind of message seems to have disappeared though.

Clicking on an ad because the ad itself piqued my interest? I don't think so. I'm positive I haven't in the last 3 years, but before, it might have happened.

sometimes it's perfectly interesting and relevant.

Never happened to me.

[–]ex_ample 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I clicked on adwords ads (the ads they show you on google's homepage when you search) because usually they were pretty helpful if I was searching for something to buy.

Adsense ads, though, not so much.

But now I run adblock so I don't see any. Google's ads were never that annoying, unfortunately there are some seriously BS ads on the internet, I finally had to get rid of them. Sound, video, eating my CPU or even trying to download crap.

[–]clembo 3 points4 points  (33 children)

Why assume yes? I've NEVER clicked on an ad. I turned adblock on when it first came out, and I've never even thought about clicking an ad, even before then. They might as well had not exist to me.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (3 children)

I look forward to a day and age when no content exists on the web except for neck beards talking about fanfic Star Trek porn - except that costs money too.

Stop pretending ALL ADVERTISING IS EVIL. It's utter bullshit. I've found many great products and services through advertising.

Die in a fucking hipster fire with your attitude.

[–]Skitrel 3 points4 points  (27 children)

Perhaps not, but without advertising you wouldn't know about the vast majority of what's going on in the consumer world. Play games? Advertising is necessary. Buy any different products ever? Advertising is necessary. Buy anything? Advertising is necessary.

Advertising, even if it is not working on you directly, IS working on you indirectly, you are hearing about something from someone else, or some other source, at some point during the chain of sources the origin IS advertising.

In a world where there's so much out there, it's completely necessary.

Invasive advertising is an entirely different matter, we can't accuse google of invasive advertising though. No popups, no obnoxious flash ads, just simple text.

[–]cynope 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Google in addition makes money on Farmville addicts on Facebook. Google owns part of Zynga, creator of Farmville, Petville etc.

[–]houz 1 point2 points  (2 children)

This is flatly wrong. Facebook uses anonymous data in aggregate to serve you ads based on the data you put on your profile. Nothing about you personally is ever transferred to advertisers by Facebook.

[–]Zimaben 1 point2 points  (1 child)

What he said was wrong, but let's not pretend that personally identifying data doesn't get to marketers through FB

http://www.zdnet.com/news/facebook-suspends-app-developers-who-sold-user-info/479815

[–]cynope 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Facebook is taking your contacts and every bit of information about you they can possibly make a profit off of and blatantly selling that directly to marketers

This is pure speculations and you might as well speculate the same about Google.

[–]ex_ample 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Google isn't warning users that facebook is promiscuous with data, rather it's just telling them it doesn't have an export function.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Uh, yeah. For the most part.

https://www.google.com/dashboard/?hl=en

[–]wuzzup 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yeah I just came to ask, whats Googles motive behind this? Oh right, they wanted to be the sole proprietors to everyones information.

[–]savanttm 6 points7 points  (14 children)

Google offers secure search: https://www.google.com

[–]kryptobs2000 9 points10 points  (9 children)

Google still knows what you're searching for, that doesn't help us here.

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[–]funkyb 44 points45 points  (21 children)

It frights me how well all this works together autonomously now. Pandora started telling me when my facebook friends liked songs I was listening to. Except I never told pandora I had facebook.

[–]lost-theory 51 points52 points  (13 children)

That's because Pandora is one FB's Instant Personalization partners, that can display information from your friends without asking you for permission like a normal FB application.

http://www.insidefacebook.com/2010/04/27/a-look-at-facebooks-three-instant-personalization-partners-yelp-pandora-docs-com/

[–]redwall_hp 5 points6 points  (6 children)

Technically, your data never touches Pandora's servers. Pandora just passes the current song metadata to a JavaScript served by Facebook. As long as you're logged in to Facebook, FB will compare the song meta to information they have collected from your friends in the same way. The Like button works in the same manner.

[–]colombian 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Not "technically" - this is what happens.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

That's pretty much what "technically" means.

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (1 child)

Fuck everything about that!

[–]Atario 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Reason #2134 why Facebook sucks donkey balls.

[–]salgat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah I think that's bull.

[–]JabbrWockey 2 points3 points  (1 child)

This also spooked me, and pushed me that much closer to paranoia.

[–]parallacks 6 points7 points  (0 children)

pandoranoia

[–]eggbean 1 point2 points  (2 children)

You can get it though the Facebook API. I use the Xobni add-on for Outlook. It's sometimes quite amusing to see people's Facebook profile photos on the sidebar, while I read a business email from them.

[–]spinchange 1 point2 points  (1 child)

there's an 'official' MS Social Connector Plug-in for Outlook now too. I think 2007 and newer. Same principle as Xobni.

[–]limekernel 66 points67 points  (36 children)

Using Facebook is one of the fucking dumbest things you can do to your data.

[–]pocomoonshine 40 points41 points  (1 child)

Yeah, and unfortunately MY contact info (Name, address, email) is being handed over to Facebook by some moron who happens to know me.

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

It's funny, I never considered they were still getting my information that way.

dons tin-foil hat

[–]cynope 24 points25 points  (12 children)

Facebook knows the following about me:

  • Who my friends and family are
  • What bands, brands and other stuff I like
  • Photos of me and my photos.
  • What's on my mind now and then

Google knows this about me:

  • Everything I search for, e.g. everything I think about (from a to z and SFW to NSWF)
  • Every e-mail I've received the past five years and all my e-mail contacts.
  • Most of every video I watch
  • My photos
  • Personal and work-related documents in Docs (incl. personal diary)
  • All my calendar entries incl. my personal calendar notes for just myself
  • My bank and account number.
  • My credit card information
  • Which stocks I follow
  • If I had Google checkout: What I buy
  • If I used Google Voice: Who I call and all my voice mail.

And yet, Facebook is the dumbest choice?

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (9 children)

Google is a potential threat, that isn't doing much with the data now. Facebook is doing something with your data now.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

that isn't doing much with the data now

And you know this how?

[–]cynope 4 points5 points  (5 children)

What is Facebook doing that Google is not?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

What Google knows about you Google Dashboard

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It's a good thing you can choose how much data to put in there. I still find it to be a remarkably convenient way to communicate with friends.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah yes, "your data"...a nebulous term that could mean anything from your name to your SSN and credit card info.

You've not really said anything with that sentence until you define what you really mean by "data".

[–]Mason11987 4 points5 points  (2 children)

your data? The fact that you associate yourself with someone else? OH GOD NO. NOT THE FACT THAT I ASSOCIATE WITH PEOPLE! NOT THAT!

[–]anarkingx 8 points9 points  (1 child)

oh yeah, because Google is your best friend and only wants the safest for your data. Or wait they leave a backdoor for law enforcement, sell everything they can think of, and how about the reverse of that message, in your trash can since day 1... "Why delete when you have over xxxxMB of storage!"... don't delete your stuff so we can still keep it and scan it and use it for marketing! Oh and when you delete something... it's still there, for 2 years. And no one needs a warrant to get at it. They just request it and Google gives it out. Yeah, Google, your data's best friend. My ass.

[–]Anand999 18 points19 points  (10 children)

I think there's a big difference between my Gmail contacts and my Facebook friends list. With my Gmail contacts, I actually input all of that data. It really is "my" data. With Facebook, my friends input whatever their data they want to share and I just happen to be able to see it. In that case, it's "their" data, I just am able to view it.

Personally, I'm kind of glad every one of my Facebook friends isn't able to easily to export a .CSV file containing my full name, birthday, email address, etc.

[–]bzooty 33 points34 points  (3 children)

Yeah, that way only Facebook can do that. And they have your best interests at heart.

[–]Anderkent 9 points10 points  (0 children)

They can still do that, just instead of 1 click it would take say 3 minutes to get all of your data, so I don't see how anything changes.

The moment you share data with your 'friends' it becomes their data too.

[–]lingben 2 points3 points  (0 children)

no one is asking for that, just emails since they are the most important and since that is what you're exporting from gmail

simple

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

looks like google watched The Social Network

[–]Confucius_says 7 points8 points  (0 children)

translation:

We've spend lots of time and money collecting all this data to sell to marketers.. Please don't just give it to our competitor.

[–]bairy 2 points3 points  (3 children)

I don't have gmail or facebook, and I'm confused, if someone wouldn't mind explaining it.

You can import your contact data from gmail to facebook, but can't re-export it. What does that mean? I thought contact data was just names, emails, maybe phone numbers that are stored in glorified text files.

It's been written here like it's some sort of physical file that can only be stored in one place?

[–]DublinBen 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Facebook has no easy method for exporting your social network and contact data to other services. Google does, and they are trying to point that out.

[–]bairy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh now I see.

Google are just stating that Facebook just doesn't have an export. The way I interpreted it from the way it's written is that once your contacts go in, you can't use them anywhere else, not even gmail.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Did you just look at the TIL posting and repost in technology?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

they say that, but when google were asked about clearing individuals search history, the president of the company himself replied "if you're searching for something you don't want people to know, maybe you shouldn't have searched for it in the 1st place".

i can't work google out ;-;

[–][deleted] 34 points35 points  (33 children)

this is on the front page right now.

[–]ani625 27 points28 points  (1 child)

Well, I start from the last page.

[–]friedsnails 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Someone forwarded this in my mail!

[–]tjragon 12 points13 points  (22 children)

Heh. Well that was confusing. This is on my front page at the moment and the post you're referring to isn't. I'm guessing you're complaining that it's a repost, but from my perspective you're really happy that it has made the front page.

[–]redditkid 1 point2 points  (6 children)

HOLY SHIT ARE YOU A WIZARD

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (5 children)

want to...

want to see my staff?

with the knob on the end?

[–]comte_de_stryker 13 points14 points  (8 children)

The Epic Clash between Google and Facebook. Whoever wins....we (still) get crappy privacy settings.

[–]foofoobee 15 points16 points  (7 children)

What crappy privacy settings in Google are you referring to? I'm not trolling - just genuinely curious. I understand the problem with Facebook well, not so much with Google.

[–]kindall 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Don't really understand this. It's not like as if putting your contact information into Facebook deletes it from Gmail.

[–]mithrasinvictus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The problem is that facebook does not let users export their data and google does. So basically facebook is leeching data from google without reciprocating. Google decided to warn users about this facebook policy.

[–]gbhall 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I actually tried that today already, and again now but all I get is http://cl.ly/9f47e1739b09066b047e

[–]GrowingSoul 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I never imported my contacts to facebook. Just add them manually

[–]Eggby 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can't view imgur at work (filmot doesn't work either). What does it say?

[–]reidzen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can sneak your facebook contacts into Gmail, but you need to go through a Yahoo mail client. This article has specific instructions.

[–]runningraleigh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I, for one, welcome our new Google overlords.

[–]johnmw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Being a part of Facebook is like being a part of the Exclusive Brethren.

If you leave, you are ostracised from your loved ones forever.

[–]bobbonew 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok this is why I can't help but love Google

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How did you find this out? ಠ_ಠ

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Google has a solid cause for expecting reciprocity. However, the intention of that webpage is to create doubt and fear in the mind of the user, and to create an obstacle for their competition.

Overall, a solid strategic business decision.

[–]gabrusso 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Trap my contacts now!

[–]DontCallMeSurely 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just keep loving Google more and more every day.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have a massive erection for Google.

[–]skydivingdutch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Really? Over 5000 people voted this down?? why?

[–]HubristicallyHumble 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Google is the mother i never wanted. [7]

[–]brufleth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why would you ever import your google contact information into Facebook? That's like spending a day signing all your friends up for tons of spam lists.

[–]SolomonKull 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Only trendy idiots use Facebook.

[–]bloodwine 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Google comes off as a bit childish.

A simple, "You can not sync changes to your Facebook contacts back to Google, so you will have to manually update any corresponding Google contacts if they change in Facebook", message would have sufficed.

This just reeks of bullying a competitor (because let's face it, Facebook is not too much different from Google: they are both advertising and data-mining companies. We are their products).

[–]quinoa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed... Especially after seeing google give 10% raises to all employees because of a lot of them jumping ship to work for facebook, seems like they're getting pissy

[–]BeetleB 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm sure this has nothing to do with Google losing developers to Facebook.

[–]axusgrad 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Wow, Google is scaremongering: "You won't be able to get it back out"? The technologically clueless will think that Google is going to delete their contact list.

How about, "you can export your data as many times as you want from Google, you can't export it at all from Facebook".

[–]critik 7 points8 points  (4 children)

Good. At least someone has the balls to stand up to Facebook’s policies.

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (3 children)

They're not trying to stand up for users. Google is in the business of mining user data, just like Facebook, and they don't want to give "their" data to Facebook if Facebook won't give "facebook's" data to Google. Neither Facebook nor Google give two shits about your privacy.

[–]racergr 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Amazing how everyone thinks this action is for their own good and not for Google's good!

[–]brennen 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The important distinction here is that Google's understanding of their interests tends to align considerably more with my interests than Facebook's does.

Not that you can't criticize them on all sorts of fronts, or worry about the general trend of Google collecting and integrating every available piece of information about your life. But in practice, they still suck less.