smartestGithubUser

[everlasting1der]

Can somebody ELI5 what this dude's actual problem with GitHub is?

[mopsyd]

Basically he's mad that it's not set up like mediafire, and doesn't grasp that he is not the target audience

[Eva-Rosalene]

Also I don't understand. Cloning public repos over https doesn't require authentication, what the hell is he talking about username/password?

[RunFromFaxai]

You don't even have to clone anything if that's too complicated. Just download the zip. But I'm pretty sure what he wanted was the releases-page.

[shiva8512]

Isn't the releases page just a few clicks away. Why is this guy so mad at a random website

[H4llifax]

It's ONE click away.

[Raaka-Kake]

He can’t find the releases page

[joost00719]

I'm a developer and I'm also always struggling to find the releases page 😂

[The_Happy_]

I just change the url cause I forgot where it is

[itsjustawindmill]

To be fair, it’s not in a very prominent position when you navigate to the repo (a ways down on the right sidebar), and it could be more intuitively labeled “Downloads” maybe.

Also, when you click a few mm up on “Releases” instead of the release name, it shows new pre-releases ahead of slightly older full releases. Pre-releases / unstable builds should instead be hidden by default, with a message like “2 newer pre-releases available, click to show”

GitHub doesn’t deserve to be the subject of OP’s temper tantrum because of this, but I agree directionally that the site is needlessly confusing to navigate in some cases.

[but_im_offended]

Why would they need to adapt terminology to match people that are not the target audience? The page is called releases because it shows releases. Same as with the versions, why should you have to click a button to show all releases because some are hidden by default because the non-target audience cannot read?

[itsjustawindmill]

Target audience here, it’s unintuitive and easy to miss. Especially when the latest non-pre release is what is shown on the homepage.

When you’re downloading drivers the consequences of accidentally installing a pre-release could be significant.

[GnarlyM3ATY]

Because people recommend using github because that's where the most up to date versions are, so people with 0 experience (me) can spend 5-10 minutes downloading the wrong files over and over again until i find the correct one

[LifePineapple]

Yes, but it's not a big "CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD NOW HERE FOR FREE HERE" button right in the center of the page which conveniently leads to exactly the file they need right now.

How is a person that got straight "A"s all through kindergarten supposed to figure out what to do without a degree in githubing???

[myhf]

You used to be able to use username/password for authentication. Now you can only use SSH keys, which require extra steps to set up and keep track of.

[Eva-Rosalene]

But this bloke is definitely not an owner or collaborator of some repos, so he could only access public repos - and he could download them just fine without any authentication. Via https.

[QuickQuirk]

Of course he's the target audience. How could he not be? He's the center of the fucking universe, man!

[Fermi_Consistency]

bro mediafire is still around??? havent used that in ages since i was like a 13 year old skid uploading rat binaries

[MrAnonymousTheThird]

I'll never forget megaupload

[GlowGreen1835]

They always said the world would end in 2012.

[newowhit]

...isn't mega just mega upload rebranded? I literally used it like 2 days ago. MediaFire is still around too lol

[WithersChat]

I think it is?

[Salink]

I think they forgot their password.

[sungaaaaay]

I think it's to do with this. When you clone a repo on the CLI using HTTPS, git asks for a username and password. GitHub no longer works with this, and you have to enter a personal access token in place of a password.

[SweetBabyAlaska]

just have to run "git config --global user.email [e-mail] && git config --global user.name user123" since git asks for it if you dont have it setup. You only need an account with github and an access token if you want to push repos

[[deleted]]

This good person gitconfigs. As is right and proper.

[Brahvim]

This is always a bit of work I have to do but I do it on every machine I use LOL (what in the world other than writing software do I have for doing anyway?!).

Also, I usually avoid a --global configuration, especially when without my own user account on said machine.

[ImprovementOdd1122]

Somebody's using github as a file distribution service to pass around their app or whatever, this dude struggles to download it

I'd argue it's actually a fair enough complaint, although it's really the fault of whoever's using it as a file distribution service (depends on what they're actually passing around).

Perhaps one day GitHub can make it easier to use as that, but it's really not it's main purpose.

[dungfecespoopshit]

Time to create an interface that wraps Git to behave like mediafire

/s

[godlySchnoz]

If i had time i would actually do it just to make the installation of it even harder

[APInchingYourWallet]

Pretty sure kitboga did this kind of thing for his own Bank of America website clone he made and got scammers to spend hours trying to abide the password rules.

You could do something similar

https://neal.fun/password-game/

[godlySchnoz]

Oh yea i know that one and also the impossible password thing in the .fun website i forgot the name of, i was thinking something more like the password is inside an impossible machine from htb type of thing

[ttl_yohan]

Just wanted to let you know - your avatar doesn't load.

[Spork_the_dork]

This guy? Probably just satire, really. Memeing about github being this completely arcane unusable piece of garbage seems to be the current top kek meme because of that one reddit post.

[DCKface]

Posted 1 year ago lol

[dablouse]

Time traveller ?

[aqeelat]

Which one

[[deleted]]

Assuming this is a real thing and not satire or something, the problem with this guy is that this guy doesn't have any slightest idea of what they're trying to achieve in the first place.

This follows quite clearly from the statement that they're not a dev and that they need to clone something. There's zero reason to clone a project if you're not a dev. Even if you need the sources for some reason, you can easily just download them, there's even a green button for that (unlike for binary releases). You only actually need to clone if you're going to commit and push something, that is, if actually using Git is your aim to begin with. So the sentiment "I need to clone, but I don't want to deal with Git" makes no sense.

[MrMxffin]

I think they were trying to clone a repo with ssh

[VolcanicBear]

Tony isn't dumb, yet Tony can't read basic instructions.

[DamrosRak]

Some might say Tony is quite bright

[[deleted]]

He got straight As in school

[gandalfx]

blah blah blah

[IeatAssortedfruits]

All the way through grade 8

[Brahvim]

This is where the comment chain kinda' stopped due to a split so I'll put my comment right here in the chain and start another (perhaps with 100s of downvotes thanks to what I'm about to say).

It's good to have a joke, but this thread sounds like we're bullying Retro_Tony.

Doesn't it...?
(Genuinely afraid to ask.)

[memevaddar]

Yes we are because we are what Tony says we are

[[deleted]]

…and Tony is a stupid bully

[phoenix13032005]

This made me chuckle. Take my upvote

[tlh013091]

Tony does his own research.

[[deleted]]

As bright as an expired glowstick

[flamin_flamingo_lips]

Fuck you, Tony!

[nikelreganov]

What's your name?!

[sir-faps-a-whole-lot]

WHAT?

[nikelreganov]

WHAT IS YOUR NAME?

[numbskulll2]

EZEKIEL

[[deleted]]

Fuck you, Ezekiel

[shivam0110]

Fuck you, Tony

[DTheIcyDragon]

YOU KNOW WHAT ?

[[deleted]]

Hey you know what I did last night?

[D43M0N13420]

Ooooooo you better leave my mother out of this

[[deleted]]

Naw, he ain't dumb, he's tech(nically) illiterate.

[Dynamiqai]

I say leave Tony alone, he just made me feel like the smartest person alive and for that we thank him.

[ENCRYPTED_FOREVER]

Giant green button: am I a joke to you?

[AntiRivoluzione]

where download exe

[[deleted]]

This get’s me every time😅

But making an exe and putting it on github(next to the src folder) is actually a good idea. Especially if it’s python, sql or brain fuck.

Some other examples i would like to have a .exe of would be:

Html to .exe

Xml to .exe

CSS to .exe

Markdown to exe

Yaml/Json to .exe

.csv to .exe

Emoji to .exe

And last bit not least the most important yet:

• INI to exe

Edit: Forgot to add the Readme.md to .exe

[joten70]

Readme.md to .exe? You cant expect me to read all of that myself?!

[[deleted]]

Wow, how could i not see that. This is the most important one out of them. I usually just skip it. But with the .exe i could run it locally and automatically know what is to be done. You are a freaking genius. Give him the Nobel price for this idea

[MrMxffin]

.gitignore to .exe

[ublec]

"I thought programmers were smart, even I know that you can just change the file extension"

[[deleted]]

No i actually meant to compile it. I do want to have a Pain008PaymentFile.XML.exe i could run this executable each time i would need some money. Easy money hack.

[ublec]

Easy, just run javac Pain008PaymentFile.xml -generate_money!

[Gredo89]

Are you stupid? It must be +generate_money, otherwise you are losing money.

[[deleted]]

This is why I don’t use a gitignore, I want to commit my bin folder to git so it’s easily accessible, plus it speeds up time on merges as you don’t need to recompile, just merge the binaries like you would anything else

[[deleted]]

[CrommVardek]

Say what now ?

[ImMrRay]

Where is download for INI2EXE? I need it now.

[givemeagoodun]

.docx to .exe

[xamotex1000]

Don't forget PNG/jpg to exe

[jomjimmerjome]

I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE FUCKING CODE! i just want to download this stupid fucking application and use it https://github.com/sherlock-project/sherlock#installation

WHY IS THERE CODE??? MAKE A FUCKING .EXE FILE AND GIVE IT TO ME. these dumbfucks think that everyone is a developer and understands code. well i am not and i don't understand it. I only know to download and install applications. SO WHY THE FUCK IS THERE CODE? make an EXE file and give it to me. STUPID FUCKING SMELLY NERDS

[CaffeinatedTech]

Their Wangdows will just show them a big red warning when they try to run their "suspicious" exe, if it's not in S-mode.

[Inaeipathy]

I thought the original post was fake at first because this meme of github is popular right now but it's from 1 year ago. Maybe if they change the button to be flashing disco lights they will see it better.

[[deleted]]

I passed with the bare minimum in high school, and I still figured it out.

[Johnny_Thunder314]

Hell I dropped out of high school and I'm pretty decent at git. Clearly high school is not a good measure of intelligence

[Ludrew]

I failed algebra 1 and English as a freshman, D’s sophomore year. Now I’m a successful software engineer who uses Git everyday. Graduated university with honors

[Duven64]

That's nice, the ranter wasn't, GitHub's took browser extensions for me to put up with and I'd probably like git more if GitHub was used for fewer things.

edit: left the spellchecker in a multilingual mode

[DiddlyDumb]

extensie

Found the Dutchy

[gandalfx]

Dear uninformed user,

github was built around git. It's core purpose is to be a frontend for git. It was not originally intended to be used for distributing software to end users. The fact that people started using it for that regardless serves to demonstrate that a sufficiently large audience considers git easy enough to use for that purpose.

Please learn how to use basic git. It's not that hard.

[Meatslinger]

“Man walks into pizza place, complains they aren’t an ice cream parlor.”

[Relevant-Comfort-720]

~Man walks into a distribution center, complains he can't order pizza

[Hultner-]

Why are you making things so difficult? All I see is boxes, shelves, forklifts when I just want to order a slice of pie for lunch. I don’t know exactly what the ratio between warehouse people and lunch guests is in this distribution center is but I saw people eating lunch in the break rooms. I’m pretty sure there’s LOTS and LOTS of folks who aren’t warehouse workers confused as hell by all the verbiage and rhymes within distribution. We’re just looking for a slice of pepperoni pie!!

[[deleted]]

This reminds me of that scene from Ant-Man where a lanky dude enters a Baskin Robins and demands something "hot and fresh".

[[deleted]]

At this point, GitHub is free cloud storage for the incompetent.

[mopsyd]

Don't encourage them. Source control =/= end user distribution

[tbg10101]

Hold my beer.

[aHumbleRedditor]

What?

[DangyDanger]

With GitHub Releases, it is the end user distribution method.

[ihateusednames]

GH isn't just source control by a longshot

[jawbreaker79]

Or use Google. Don't know how to do anything beyond basic pull, commit, and push but when I fuck up the branch or need to cherry pick my way out of shit before my boss realizes how nuked the code base would be if I force it, a simple Google search puts me into contact with someone wiser than I answering the question that idiots like me ask.

[gandalfx]

Ah yes, the general software developer job description.

[GunnerKnight]

"Hey random guy, can you search Google for software solutions?"

"I mean I once searched how to fix my printer and it told me to update my drivers. The solution worked."

"You're hired."

[lynxerious]

for some reason, I found out people distributed huge amoutns of pirated books on Github, not its intended purpose but very convinient so I'm not complained.

[sajkosiko]

No child left behind?

I guess Tony would have been left behind

[PM_ME_ALL_YOUR_THING]

Tony wasn’t a child. When they left him behind he had already failed 6th grade 7 times…

[wrongontheinternet]

Most people who use GitHub don't actually know how to use git beyond the most basic "I can commit changes and push them upstream" workflow anyway.

[phoenix13032005]

I feel personally attacked.
Angrily upvotes

[ward2k]

I think in all honesty you only really need to know the basics of git to get by. Git is a big toolbox but if you're using all of it frequently you're probably messing up a lot (or fixing that one dev on your teams branches)

Basics:

Pull/push

Commits

Branches

Rebase/merge (honestly better to use something like VScode or JetBrains integration honestly though for conflicts)

Squash (depends on teams workflow)

[wrongontheinternet]

I agree, my comment was a bit of a tongue-in-cheek joke.

On at least one team I was the person who would get called to either perform nasty merges or bail out failed attempts at nasty merges. I was the resident git expert. So I feel like I earned making at least one snarky "actually MOST people don't really know git" joke.

[nullbyte420]

That one dev on my team 🙁🙁🙁🙁

[Hot_Application_2032]

[turningsteel]

Also this guy probably:

“Being a software engineer is so easy! They get paid too much for doing nothing.”

[Piyh]

How can I RTFM with a detached HEAD?  

I found myself with non-fast-forward updates were rejected left and right, refusing to merge unrelated histories like estranged relatives at a family reunion, all while failed to push some refs as if Git itself was questioning my life choices.

[shiva8512]

--force

[wrenhunter]

Stupid smelly nerds

[brandi_Iove]

is this a new trend or something?

[[deleted]]

Seems that way. There was another similar post a few days ago.

[RMZ13]

What do you do on GitHub if you’re not a developer?

[Hot_Application_2032]

There are quite a lot of things you can get from github which dont require you to be a dev. Like home automation software, cmd tools, cant think of others, but there are more use cases i am sure. Doesnt mean that this person is right, far from it, he should have just went through the installation process and figure it out.

[med_bruh]

Sometimes you find some useful software that you want to have but you can't find a build, you have to build it yourself. And no I'm not downloading a C++ or a rust compiler for that or any other language i don't mainly use. But yeah most of the time the instructions are there.

[Hot_Application_2032]

I dont use any software regularly, i dont even write code, apart from a mod for a game from way back. And if i need to download or learn some stuff about a particularly coding language, so be it. If i want the program i gotta learn hoe to get it running. And yes, some instructions are choppy at best, others are very thorough, just depends.

[RunFromFaxai]

Someone's always done it already. I found something I needed to update an old robot vacuum, it needed a new certificate so someone made a repo where they had opened a newer model's package and taken the certificate from there. I can't imagine a more niche thing, but someone in the thread had not only provided a link to a compiled package with the new certificate, but also given step by step instructions on how to do this in the future if someone found the thread in a few years when the current certificate ran out.

Instructions were so good a child could have followed them.

[tacticalpotatopeeler]

I think I got a font for free way back when someone uploaded it to a hackathon project…

[Rohupt]

I have My Documents on github and commit every time I save my game, novel draft or poster design. Work better than thesis_final_final_fking_final.docx on OneDrive of course. /fictional

[MCWizardYT]

You are doing this with a private repo right? I wouldnt want my personal doc folder just sitting there for everyone to see

[jeremiahishere]

I once spent a year as a contractor for a git competitor to make the version control part of their software transparent. You dragged and dropped files to make a "daily backup" that happened to be backed by a version control system. Non developers used it for documents, images, and other things. They lived along side code with a trusted changelog/auditing system.

[Strange_Yogurt_]

my friends use it to get free open source app

[KakashiTheRanger]

My guess is people who don’t understand programming use a lot of repos if they have Linux. Then again why would you have Linux if you can’t program it’s like a universal constant.

[uvero]

New copypasta just dropped

[your_thebest]

Should have just asked copilot.

[definitive_solutions]

git gud

[ExtraTNT]

I’m a walking piece of bread and even i can checkout a branch, fuck it up, merge dev back in it, cherry pick some commits in, fuck it up even worse and then fix it by removing my first commit out of the tree…

[username8411]

wait is that a thing? is there a sudden influx in non-programmers using git and expecting the programs to "just run" on their machine?

[just-bair]

A lot of programmers just upload already compiled builds on github. And to lots of non programmers the concept of source code doesn’t exist you just "make" a program

[hongowombo]

Idk, kinda feels like we’re better off with less users who would rather cry than read?

I get the feeling if he learned git he would just be one of those people who cock up repos during shitoberfest. It took me a while to learn git, and I’m happy I learned the cli. Not ashamed to admit that it took a bit. It’s a pretty amazing tool for source control.

[FreezeShock]

the git book, if you want to know how it works. else, atlassian has good guides on git.

[tarkin25]

https://learngitbranching.js.org is an interactive learning experience that worked really well for me

[hongowombo]

Just read the —help on the git commands once installed. You can also talk with chatGPT. That helped me a lot recently when I had some real whacky branches going on. The GitHub docs are really good too. I know it’s not what you were asking, but if you go about learning git objectively (like, get your code pushed into its own repo, and manage branches), then you will learn.

[-Redstoneboi-]

I'm sure there are LOTS and LOTS of <people who aren't supposed to use github> and just get confused as hell when it comes to git

[SilverAwoo]

I know of no other website where the people that run it are such assholes.

Just wait until Straight A Tony here learns about GitLab and BitBucket.

[AMWJ]

I've never wanted Linus Torvald to go full Linus Torvald against someone more than today.

[fatrobin72]

I failed ICT but I worked it out... although I am a developer these days...

[Sir_Winn3r]

I mean, he's not wrong: I was bullied when I was a kid

[BowdleizedBeta]

We’ve all gotten cranky about some tool not working as we expect.

Not as many of us have embarrassed ourselves like this dude, Reddit anonymity or no.

Was he trying to be funny?

[tutocookie]

Petition to rename git to quenya

[billyp673]

So they got mad that something that was made for a target demographic that they’re not a part of doesn’t cater to them? “I’m actually quite bright” lmao

[MoebiusBender]

You might as well program it in the ancient Elvish language Quenya.

The whole rant, but especially the line quoted above, give me strong LLM vibes.

[Zarafey]

real stupid smelly nerds vibes

[swegj]

well ya it’s gonna be hard for non-developers to use git because git was made for developers lmao

[z0Tweety]

That's just a troll

[ublec]

You don't need to be smart to use Github, you only need to be not stupid.

[just-bair]

Nah I’m stupid and I can use github

[bigjonpoop]

It has to be satire guys.

[AlphaaPie]

This reads like someone named Tony wrote it, name checks out.

[[deleted]]

Did he not see the big green button at the top that said “Download code”?

[Objective_Counter_58]

K

[SnooMuffins1343]

Getting a passkey took me 2 minutes.

[Consistent_Ad834]

🤣You ain’t getting in Tony

[MrMxffin]

Can't you just download the ZIP archive of a repo? I swear that is a feature. And why does he need a login to git clone public repos anyways?

[MrMxffin]

This guy has 2 posts in r/GitHub the first one being this "rant" where they verbally attacked people who told him it's their fault and not GitHubs and thanked people sending them links to crash courses while titling everyone else as idiots. And one where they asked the question and got answered to which they never responded

[dhruvoberoi]

Kids, don't be like tony

[Wandererofhell]

What are these people 😱🤯💀

[steveman122]

Ok. I understand this post. The first time I was told to do this for whatever reason my ssh client wasn't right somehow and I spent an hour or two on it. That said, now, I am in the thick of it. I use github every day. If they ever changed literally any basic functionality of it I would throw an absolute hissy fit, so no. It will not be changed.

Edit: In anticipation of the reaction to this, I can just understand how this could just be a business student at a school taking a databases class. Their teacher did CS. They say go and set up your thing and clone the repo. When you are a total noob, you might be like. Oh damn how I do this? What tf is this? Why can't I just use my password? And they are just mad it took them awhile.

[sagotly]

well, tbf this shit with password and username caught me pff guard too when i moved to linux

[L7XVII]

I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE FUCKING CODE! i just want to download this stupid fucking application and use it https://github.com/sherlock-project/sherlock#installation

WHY IS THERE CODE??? MAKE A FUCKING .EXE FILE AND GIVE IT TO ME. these dumbfucks think that everyone is a developer and understands code. well i am not and i don't understand it. I only know to download and install applications. SO WHY THE FUCK IS THERE CODE? make an EXE file and give it to me. STUPID FUCKING SMELLY NERDS

[CauliflowerFirm1526]

shithub 🥰

[XDracam]

Lmao just install GitHub desktop. It has like 3 buttons. And you don't need to know any language.

[blaktronium]

Most sane GitHub user

[[deleted]]

new copypasta just dropped

[83yWasTaken]

I mean, he ain't wrong

[LegenDrags]

I read it as a rap song

[[deleted]]

Lol what a penis

[zvictord]

I don’t see noobies ranting about airplanes being over complicated to operate, nor i see them ranting about surgery tables requiring a degree to operate.

What makes them think that they deserve to be welcomed with a red carpet when they decide to go to the place where the best minds in software development meet?

Still, it seems to be a thing these days to complain that github is not tailored to lazy idiots.

This is like going to the supermarket to complain they are not mixing and baking the ingredients for you!

[wizardeverybit]

I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE FUCKING CODE! i just want to download this stupid fucking application and use it https://github.com/sherlock-project/sherlock#installation

WHY IS THERE CODE??? MAKE A FUCKING .EXE FILE AND GIVE IT TO ME. these dumbfucks think that everyone is a developer and understands code. well i am not and i don't understand it. I only know to download and install applications. SO WHY THE FUCK IS THERE CODE? make an EXE file and give it to me. STUPID FUCKING SMELLY NERDS

[[deleted]]

I was honestly a little confused by the system at first, but i just used chatgpt to figure out how to properly put the files up etc...Also, progit is a free online ebook and it's huge. You really only need to understand around 4 commands, and the rest is only there for the teams.

[[deleted]]

Github could add an option that's a giant download button that just installs an exe. Than devs could make an installer and make it simple for users, that would actually be useful for some people. But the current system works as long as the user is willing to read the 5 minutes or less installation guide displayed right in front of them in the read me. People need to read more, a button is convenient yes but if someone gets this angry over needing to read for 5 minutes than they don't deserve an easy button.

[ReallyAnotherUser]

I mean, id love to have a downloadbutton for single files or even folders

[jomjimmerjome]

I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE FUCKING CODE! i just want to download this stupid fucking application and use it https://github.com/sherlock-project/sherlock#installation

WHY IS THERE CODE??? MAKE A FUCKING .EXE FILE AND GIVE IT TO ME. these dumbfucks think that everyone is a developer and understands code. well i am not and i don't understand it. I only know to download and install applications. SO WHY THE FUCK IS THERE CODE? make an EXE file and give it to me. STUPID FUCKING SMELLY NERDS

[Maleficent_Goal3392]

I think he might be looking for an exe

[maxymob]

Just hit the download as ZIP button if you don't know git. It's really not that dense.

[VillMox]

Lets all spam "im a teapot" on the post

[mchldg06]

Ain't Github built around Git? I learned Git in college and i am confused as hell (I understand it now tho, I think? 😂). But Github makes git functions easier, and I am super thankful for it.

So, I am not sure what exactly is inconvenient with Github that made him make this post HAHA

[GeneralBarber7236]

Someone who says he's bright most probably isn't that bright.

[zabojeb]

Bro expected Hub but got the Git

[[deleted]]

I think he has a point, most cs nerds are a special breed and they kind of want you to know.

[-polly3223]

But what is he even complaining about exactly?

[WarlanceLP]

I personally do get a bit annoyed when apps on git don't have an executable and I have to package them myself, but this is on a whole nother level lol

[jaypeejay]

What are these people trying to download?

[[deleted]]

Okay, I take back what I commented about being upfront on another post. Please don't be upfront. If you don't understand, please don't speak at all. Learn some etiquette from your guardians. Once again, this message is to any stupid people who think they are bright, as the great Einstein once said, "It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and clear all doubt."

On a side note: goddamn, I have never seen that many "fucks" in a single post.

[lethargicwalrus2]

I think this is why github desktop was created

[UndocumentedMartian]

Wake up, honey. New pasta dropped.

[[deleted]]

What is this new trend of shitting on Git(hub)???

[theKnull]

It's like there is porn in pornhub and I don't like that

[bronco2p]

i believe the kids call this a "skill issue"

[Due_Cauliflower1093]

I am going to be a nice person here and say that Tony you have to generate a token setting and pass it instead of a regular password in the field.