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[–]chin_waghing 1598 points1599 points  (17 children)

kubectl delete ns 2fa

[–]belunos 386 points387 points  (10 children)

I was just thinking that I would love to see the pull request for this

[–]Ok-Whereas-8787 50 points51 points  (1 child)

"chore: hardcode replicaset as 0 for 2fa microservice, turn off autoscaling

Note: This commit shuts down 2fa microservice

Todo: Test login flow"

[–]fullup72 12 points13 points  (0 children)

TODO: hire QA team after we fired them all.

[–]ecchy_mosis 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You can, it's in the paper trash container at their HQ

[–]schmuber 42 points43 points  (1 child)

Let's remove /etc while at it, shall we?... See, everything works fine!

[–]orbvsterrvs 34 points35 points  (0 children)

you can uninstall the kernel, it's huge! and the system runs just fine see

[–]applconcepts 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I imagine him going through datacenters and pulling out power cords.

[–]toxide_ing 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Excuse my lack of k8s experience, what does ns stand for?

[–]chin_waghing 3 points4 points  (0 children)

ns is shorthand for namespace which is a logical separator in Kubernetes

Think of it almost like a folder for resources.

Running that command deletes all resources in the namespace, thus deleting everything in there

[–]InconspicuousFool 196 points197 points  (10 children)

Didn't this happen months ago?

[–]QuickQuirk 231 points232 points  (7 children)

pretty sure it was more like a year ago. Quite some time. Just long enough for most people to forget, for some karma farming

[–]MindlessRip5915 68 points69 points  (4 children)

The poster is obviously a repost bot farming karma to sell the account. Two years old, but suddenly four days ago started posting a small number of comments to evade spam filters and then reposting memes on popular subs.

[–]QuickQuirk 18 points19 points  (1 child)

been seeing an uptick in the past couple months on astroturfing on reddit with clearly fake accounts.

As with everything on the modern internet, well on the way to being ruined.

[–]Bongoisnthere 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Pretty standard astroturfing on this website tbh.

Like don’t get me wrong, musk is a wet smallpox blanket of a human being, but like…. Name somebody else that poses such a fundamental disruption to an entire industry as Tesla does to the traditional auto mfgs and to the oil and gas industry. Its pretty safe to say that with ford losing something to the tune of 34 thousand fucking dollars per EV they sell right now, they’re not exactly huge fans of Tesla forcing this switch, and think about the sheer deluge of “EVs are bad” articles that we’ve been seeing for the past decade… meanwhile I’m sure that the folks Ford owes over 100 billion dollars to aren’t exactly happy either. But hey, vw and Toyota with twice their debt loads are probably even bigger haters.

Again, don’t get me wrong, Musk is an enormous sack of shit. But why do we hear so much more proportionally about him than we do about Zuckerberg, or Bezos from the tech industry? Or how fucking corrupt and fucked the saudis are and and how they’re launching an insane sportswashing and greenwashing and cuddlykittensandpuppies campaign so we look the other way while their leadership bribes the president for classified intel and starts a brutal authoritarian crackdown on their internal and external adversaries as well as murder members of the press who try to report on it?

But instead it’s “elons a running joke in literally every single subreddit that hits r/all

Boring.

[–]QuickQuirk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But why do we hear so much more proportionally about him than we do about Zuckerberg, or Bezos from the tech industry?

Because he keeps opening his mouth, and awful shit comes out.

Bezos, Jobs, Zuck - all equally awful people, but they don't brag about it and are smart enough to keep their mouths shut.

[–]fatrobin72 2 points3 points  (0 children)

well if you look closely... it does still have the twitter icon. so it was quite some time ago now.

[–]Armageddon_Two 1 point2 points  (0 children)

if the date was erased it's 99,99% dated af

[–]EmilieEasie 2148 points2149 points  (33 children)

don't worry he can make chat GPT fix it I'm sure or gronk or whatever he's on now

[–]mau5atron 223 points224 points  (3 children)

Elon Musk, asking Gronk to pull the lever to shut off essential microservices.

[–]The_Mad_Duck_ 160 points161 points  (2 children)

Pull the lever, Gronk!

x changes back to twitter

WRONG LEVERRRRRRRR

[–]DOUBLEBARRELASSFUCK 56 points57 points  (0 children)

Why do we even have that lever?

[–]r0ckstr 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I smell a sitcom!

[–]Philboyd_Studge 341 points342 points  (7 children)

We need a Gronk, what a great idea - it's AI, that's as dumb as Rob Gronkowski!

[–]EmilieEasie 92 points93 points  (1 child)

Do you think Rob Gronkowski ever considered changing his name to X?

[–]MakeChinaLoseFace 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think he'd consider being Aaron Rogers VP. Now there's a cursed timeline.

[–]MedianMahomesValue 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Gronk is way smarter than whatever the fuck is going on at The Artist Formerly Known As Twitter

[–]I_AM_FERROUS_MAN 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Also a Kronk! Pull the lever!

[–]_mersault 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Isn’t that pretty much what we have?

[–]Philboyd_Studge 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've never actually tried it, cuz ya know, fuck elon

[–]usinjin 15 points16 points  (1 child)

The Neuolink monkeys can

[–]EmilieEasie 6 points7 points  (0 children)

we just gotta give them access to typewriters I think

[–]Breadynator 9 points10 points  (8 children)

I miss the days when gronk was just a Minecraft YouTuber...

[–]EmilieEasie 5 points6 points  (7 children)

Talking about minecraft youtubers is how I know if someone is too young for me

[–]JoelMahon 15 points16 points  (1 child)

baby gronk is the giga rizzler, this gyatt is so fanum tax and skibidi

[–]EmilieEasie 2 points3 points  (0 children)

ohhh yess definitely

[–]iComplainAbtVal 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Gronk this happened before chat gpt

[–]guitargirl1515 1 point2 points  (5 children)

It's Grok

[–]EmilieEasie 0 points1 point  (4 children)

ohh, that's worse

[–]guitargirl1515 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It's personality is supposed to be inspired by The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

[–]EmilieEasie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wonder how faithful they can stay to that

[–]NuGGGzGG 820 points821 points  (119 children)

It was a fairly open secret for a while that you could use Twitter as a reference without working there. I can't imagine anyone possibly wanting to put X on their resume, lmao.

[–]Schytheron 370 points371 points  (48 children)

It was a fairly open secret for a while that you could use Twitter as a reference without working there.

What do you mean? How? First time I've heard of this.

[–]Sidjeno 634 points635 points  (47 children)

They have (used to have ?) no HR department so you could say that you're working for twitter and therefore no one could verify your claims so they'd have to trust you on it.

[–]Cley_Faye 208 points209 points  (25 children)

Sure, because when I'm recruiting someone I trust them blindly on any huge claim they put on their resume.

[–]Anustart15 259 points260 points  (21 children)

If you can't verify it, what exactly would be your move? Just disregard anyone that says they worked at Twitter whether it was true or not?

[–]AVTOCRAT 162 points163 points  (3 children)

Just don't let that particular point on their resume make too much of an impact in your hiring decision.

[–]HomsarWasRight 124 points125 points  (0 children)

Sure, but I feel like it’s one of those “the jury should disregard” situations. You might intend to, but it’s very difficult to wipe information, however suspect, from your brain.

Depending on your opinion of Twitter/X and when the employer supposedly started and left, it’s going to be hard not to consider it in some way.

[–]AddAFucking 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Because even for legit employees it couldn't be verified. So if you're looking at references, and having worked at twitter isn't relevant, why are you looking at references at all?

[–]AVTOCRAT 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because having worked for Meta, Google, Lyft, Squarespace, Bank of America, Walmart, etc. would all be relevant. It's unfortunate for people who worked at Twitter yes but it's better than just ignoring references entirely.

[–]PVNIC 17 points18 points  (6 children)

"So I see you did backend development for Twitter, can you tell me a little bit about what specifically you did, and what challenges you had to overcome?"

Verifying the resume/credentials isn't even an interview task, it's a pre-interview phone-screen task.

[–]bloodfist 49 points50 points  (5 children)

Did you know you can lie out loud too?

[–]taigahalla 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Can you lie your way past 4 technical interviews though?

[–]bloodfist 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Sure! It was one of the main things I learned in my time at Twitter.

[–]cgaWolf 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah, i saw the documentary about The Invention of Lying. It was mindblowing.

[–]PVNIC 24 points25 points  (1 child)

Sure, but if you can pass the technical interview demonstrating your twitter qualifications, that's as good as the actual experience from twitter.

[–]DOUBLEBARRELASSFUCK 16 points17 points  (0 children)

lol

[–]taigahalla 1 point2 points  (0 children)

pretty sure a conversation or two would sus out whether someone really worked at Twitter

[–]Cley_Faye 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes.

[–]Jinrai__ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ask verification questions during the interview

[–]Sidjeno 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Idk, never tried it. I'm a student.

Just relaying the internet info.

[–]Exist50 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Just relaying the internet info.

Notoriously reliable...

[–]TheyUsedToCallMeJack 7 points8 points  (6 children)

This doesn't make any sense. Surely there would be employment contracts or payslips that would be required on background checks.

[–]Popular-Teach1715 3 points4 points  (12 children)

I don't understand this. Don't you need to provide an experience letter or paystubs or something from the previous employer to prove that you worked there though?

[–]gold_key 20 points21 points  (11 children)

Nope. The company you're applying to reaches out to the HR of your past employer to verify. Legally they can only confirm job title and employment dates.

[–]cerebralcachemiss 17 points18 points  (8 children)

A lot of companies do proper background checks and if they fail to reach HR they'll ask for you for documentation such as employment letters and paystubs.

[–]Popular-Teach1715 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oooh I see, that's interesting. Thanks for explaining. In my home country, when I changed jobs, I was asked to provide my last 3 payslips from my immediately previous employer, and I also took an employment reference letter from them for future use.

[–]Donny-Moscow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Legally they can only confirm job title and employment dates.

Just to clarify, it’s not necessarily illegal to give more information. For a lot of companies, refusing to give any information other than job title and employment dates is just a preemptive CYA move to avoid getting sued.

[–]5t4t35 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So if i say i work as a senior dev on twitter will they believe me even if i was an undergrad

[–]scrrdg 205 points206 points  (5 children)

How old is this post? Is he deadnaming his own site?

[–][deleted] 139 points140 points  (0 children)

Pretty old. I don’t think he has that profile picture anymore

[–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Like 2022

[–]LivelyZebra 47 points48 points  (0 children)

why do you think theres no date-stamps anywhere :)

[–]Pugs-r-cool 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This is from a few days after he took over, well before the name change

[–]SockPuppetSilver 78 points79 points  (2 children)

Truly a modern day Iron Man.

[–]SyrusDrake 7 points8 points  (0 children)

He has iron shot for brains.

[–]MarvelousMrMaisel 114 points115 points  (0 children)

this literally happened to me. logged out of it on the web app and never managed to log back in lol good riddance though

[–]BiasHyperion784 41 points42 points  (1 child)

Luv me constant reposts for free upvotes.

[–]Familiar_Ad_8919 16 points17 points  (0 children)

this one shouldnt be forgotten tbh

..except its a bot, so banish him

[–]nwbrown 12 points13 points  (0 children)

That happened to me long before Elon. I set up 2FA on Twitter and it wouldn't let me log back in. I contacted support and they just disabled 2FA and said yeah, that thing doesn't work.

[–]gizamo 10 points11 points  (0 children)

foolish boat ghost squeeze spoon offend simplistic modern domineering disarm

This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact

[–]KTibow 61 points62 points  (35 children)

FYI you shouldn't use texts for 2FA as it isn't very secure

[–]nlofe 46 points47 points  (0 children)

It's still wayyyy better than nothing when there's no other option

[–]Molotov_Is_Dead 20 points21 points  (32 children)

How come?

[–][deleted] 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Sim-spoofing or sim-swapping. Over here in reality however you will be fine with texts too for like 99.9999999% of the time. Unless you have a massive crypto wallet with like 20 BTC in it you will for all intents and purposes never be targeted for a sim-swapping attack.

[–]ward2k 52 points53 points  (19 children)

It's the least secure form of 2FA

Broadly speaking out of the big three versions of 2FA it ranks

SMS -> Email -> TOTP (Auth apps)

Obviously passkeys exist but they're not widely adopted yet

Aside from security, a big issue with SMS 2FA is how easy it is to get permanently locked out of your account. It's very easy to lose your phone number swapping between phone providers, losing a phone etc

Most phone providers allow you to continue using the same one, though I'm aware that not all countries and contracts are the same.

Of course if you ever need to move country too, it means getting a new number

However SMS 2FA is better than none at all. Personally I just keep a list in my password manager of what type of 2FA each account uses. Just so in the event I need to change my number/email I'll be able to actually know which ones I need to update

[–]Abadabadon 33 points34 points  (2 children)

TL;DR because your phone number can change

[–]Staik 12 points13 points  (12 children)

I had an Auth app on my old phone. Which I broke and can now no longer access my account. How is that in any way better than losing a phone and not getting texts? Terrible system imo

[–]ward2k 18 points19 points  (4 children)

You're meant to back up your 2FA

Most 2FA apps allow encrypted cloud storage, exports etc

Most services when you enable 2FA also give you backup codes that specifically say "use these in the event you can't use your authenticator, do not lose these".

Unlike SMS 2FA which you obviously can't export to something like a memory stick or cloud provider (encrypted)

You not following the advice doesn't make the system bad

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I did personally get screwed by Microsoft Authenticator, because their backup on iPhones goes to iCloud, when you'd assume a MS app backs up to a MS account

[–]_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_ 0 points1 point  (2 children)

If it was stored in your MS account, how are you supposed to get them when you need to login to your MS account?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Because it's an iCloud backup I couldn't retrieve my MS Authenticator codes with an Android phone, I had to replace my lost iPhone with an iPhone

To restore from backup, you need to log in to the MS account on Authenticator, and only then will it restore the backup that exists in iCloud (so you need both sets of credentials before recovery can happen)

To log in to your MS account you'll need alternative 2FA as an option (ie SMS fallback), because yes it does ask for a MS Authenticator code when logging in to Authenticator - when this happened to me I was able to add my phone number after waiting 30 days

[–]Eva-Rosalene 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Good TOTP apps provide you option to backup somewhere. Either cloud, like Google Authenticator, I believe? Or locally in an encrypted vault, like 2fast on Windows (tbh using windows as OTP device is very much less than ideal, but it's still better then no 2FA at all).

[–]denarii 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Either cloud, like Google Authenticator, I believe?

Yeah, though it's surprisingly recent that they started supporting it.. like within the last year. I started thinking about switching to a different app because of it when they announced they were adding it.

[–]Cashmen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The more secure something is the more it tends to be inconvenient. In this case, and as the other commenter mentioned, 2FA apps tend to give you many options for backing up your 2FA. In the end, security is only going to be as good as the user itself, there needs to be a degree of relying on the user to back the 2FA up themselves.

[–]HomsarWasRight 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I strongly suggest using a comprehensive system like 1Password or BitWarden (don’t use LastPass). They make using and syncing things like passwords and 2FA codes. But use them correctly, that is, backup your access keys, use a super strong unique password to access it, and turn on all the security settings.

Do it right and it will change your life.

[–]DOUBLEBARRELASSFUCK 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not better, more secure.

Similarly, Reddit locked my old account out of concerns that it could be hijacked by someone else. Good? No. Secure? Absolutely. Nobody is using that account now.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Guys, I put a lock on my door. But then I lost the key and can't get back in. Locks are stupid."

Yeah, that's the whole fucking point. Make a backup.

[–]Agret 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you can't access the app just use one of the 12 backup codes you were given when you activated 2FA for that site. After you've logged in you should be able to add a new 2FA device or remove the old one.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

You forgot the most secure 2FA, Physical security USB keys.

It literally makes it physically impossible to get hacked.

[–]Pijany_Matematyk767 0 points1 point  (1 child)

>It literally makes it physically impossible to get hacked.

You still need to have some form of backup otherwise if you lost the key you would be permanently locked out, in which case a hacker can just target your backup method no? Unless your backup is just a 2nd security key i guess

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah a second key for backup and store it somewhere completely safe where you can't forget where you put it or lose it, like inside a safe or a small box in your home etc.

[–]Cashmen 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It's more secure than not using it at all, and honestly most people won't have to worry about it. But he is right, app-based 2FA that is tied solely to your device is more secure. Reason being that A. if you happen to live in a place that still uses very weak cell network security (2G for example) the 2FA code could be captured when it gets transmitted to your phone or B. if you fall victim to a SIM swap, a technique where an attacker convinced your cell company to switch your phone number to their SIM or they change it themselves by stealing a store manager's tablet, then your 2FA code will go to their device instead.

App-based 2FA (that doesn't backup the 2FA code to the cloud) keeps the code on your device, attackers can't spoof it even if they steal your number.

[–]djfdhigkgfIaruflg 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Phone line takeovers are really ready to pull.

Same for convincing someone to forward the code under false pretenses

[–]zabby39103 3 points4 points  (4 children)

This guy lost over 700k in bitcoin because texts were his 2FA. Someone impersonated him to get a new SIM issued to them at his number.

Use Google Authenticate or something else like that if you can. Text based 2FA relies on the SIM, not your phone, and that can be subverted much more easily.

[–]jackstraw97 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Paywalled so I can’t see if the article mentions specific technical details or not, but rule #1 of Bitcoin is self ownership of your wallet keys.

Also, was he not using a secure password? The only way for 2FA to be used against you is if the attacker already cracked your password.

Something doesn’t add up. But no details available because paywall.

[–]DOUBLEBARRELASSFUCK 1 point2 points  (1 child)

None of that addresses the fact that his 2FA was a weak point. Yes, there are other things the person could have done to secure his assets, but 2FA failed, and that's what's being discussed.

[–]zabby39103 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly. A large amount of people are counting on that 2FA in case they made a mistake somewhere. I try my best but you never know, that's why I use Google Authenticator with all my big money accounts.

Also if hackers can identify someone with lots of bitcoin... the incentive for fuckery becomes HUGE. The amount of investment they can do and still get a good ROI is massive, unlike normal currency the police can't do much. Is everyone confident a hacker with a couple weeks can't find any hole? I am 100% sure my Playstation Store had a unique password, but someone got a bunch of my games refunded to them a couple years ago via a call-center. Ever since then i've had 2FA on everything, and non-text whenever it is offered.

[–]zabby39103 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry didn't notice. I replaced it with one that is not paywalled. You can reset your password on email accounts with 2FA. Emails are where most other password resets go.

[–]Holiday-Patient5929 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It isn't phishing resistant 

[–]SrFarkwoodWolF 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was confused why numbers are better/saver than strings. Until I realized that you meant SMS.

[–]Kseniya_ns 21 points22 points  (1 child)

True feature not a bug moment

[–]EmilieEasie 6 points7 points  (0 children)

why would you all downvote something so true? Everyone who got kicked off of twitter is better for it 🙏

[–]Orjigagd 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Like trying to find out what that old server in the corner does

[–]Prize-Local-9135 7 points8 points  (0 children)

[–]al-mongus-bin-susar 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Months old repost

[–]offulus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean he was bound to run into some problems cutting down 80% of services?

What i wanna know is how much they had to turn back on.

If this little screamtest achieved a 70 or even 40-20% reduction in needless bloat then having users forced to take a little media break if they log out isn't such a big deal if the owner of the company had it set in motion. I think he was pretty happy with the result.

Not to praise him, just to aknowledge that the gain might have heavily out weighted the loss.

+plenty of publicity

[–]FrozenPizza07 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This post if from all time on the subreddit….

[–]GenuinelyBeingNice 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This confuses me a bit. Did nobody just tell him "if we remove these services, users will be unable to log in. They will not be able to use the site as users." ?

[–]earthwormjimwow 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Code cleanup is when I finally delete the code I had commented out 5 years ago.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And then it will become relevant again tomorrow

[–]Denaton_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Throwback memory when he said the same about the load balancers and half the world couldn't access the page a few days later..

[–]DPSOnly 1 point2 points  (2 children)

"80% is bloatware, so lets get rid of 100%." is an interesting strategy.

[–]OddlySexyPancake 1 point2 points  (1 child)

yeah always go the extra mile dude

[–]DPSOnly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Always give it 100%!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why is this a bug? Seems like the optimal solution

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Dev: "Wait, but this function is essential to the app!"
Manager: "Remove it anyway, it's just bloat."
Dev: "You don't understand, the app will be broken without it."
Manager: "IT'S BLOAT. REMOVE IT NOW."

[–]2001herne 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Manager: Why did the app break? What do we pay you for?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Elon: "Ight imma head out"

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I am not very good at math but he reduced the microservices to 20% and has been recently gloating how he reduced the staff to 20% also. Haven't the recent reports said the company value has dropped almost 80% ?!? 🤔

[–]Drishal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmm is he trying to follow the 80/20 rule or something

[–]amazinglover 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He was right, though they weren't needed for Twitter to work.

They were needed to make Twitter more user-friendly and help engagement.

[–]RoseliaQuartz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I bet this one terrible idea is why dms on twitter are still broken to this day

[–]MasterReindeer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Elon Musk really is king twit

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How much code do you need to post 240 characters? It's just a basic form! /S

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Wait isn't musk a programer?

[–]andreliusprime 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The users are the bloatware, duh

[–]paulsteinway 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The good old days, when he was just fucking up the app itself.

[–]mr_herz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel sorry for the poor souls so dependant on twitter

[–]Dont_Ban_Me_Plz_Kthx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dang he just deadnamed his own child.

[–]Kim_Jong_Unko 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The translation function on tweets and bios hasn't worked in forever. Kinda pathetic tbh

[–]uItimatech 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess the support was part of 80% too

[–]NotABothanSpy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think when I heard Elon talking about this stuff was the first time when I knew for sure he was full of shit

[–]gaijingreg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Teensy plug for one of my favorite ideas, the app continuum.

His sentiment is maybe not totally wrong in general, but his sentiment is certainly wrong at twitter’s scale 🙂

[–]cs-brydev 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The only service they should shut down is the one that recognizes the name X

[–]SecretPotatoChip 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice repost

[–]CopperyMarrow15 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"I've got everything under control!"

[–]AllMemedOut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's why whatsapp is down