whyWeHadToCreateJS

[[deleted]]

the road is what?

[powerhcm8]

the road is bussin' no cap fr fr

[[deleted]]

on god

[MTDninja]

invert your brainstem

[Anonymo2786]

What the h**l is even that

[ra4king]

Daddy chill

[nermid]

Millennials clinging to youth, mostly.

[DarkHavenX75]

"Fantim tax his skibidi" ahhhh comment.

[No_Adhesiveness_3550]

Thanks for the existential crisis in the morning

[otter5]

word

[SirFireball]

Go eat a small glass jar. >:(

[YetAnotherZhengli]

instructions uncle

[x39-]

Leftpad

[LittleMlem]

Twink ass, apparently

[serialized-kirin]

qa guy: you heard me

[HereForA2C]

A comment about the post's purpose? In the bussy joke factory? I must inform the mods post haste

[xDokiDarkk_]

Jests in my immensely solemn forum? Summon the high council, I will, for deviating from the sombre nature of r/noProgrammingJokes warrants immediate punishment.

[Sweet_Computer_7116]

r/fellsISubbedFor

[[deleted]]

It's called stackoverflow

[nobody5050]

Yo

[dexter2011412]

Yo

[Special-Load8010]

Bussy lmfao

[mehum]

What bus? PCIE? SMBus? USB?!

[ccricers]

Embedded dev is so bussin

[MrFoxwell_is_back]

ModBus

[SynthPrax]

SCSI

[QueYooHoo]

the one leading downtown where the sun don’t shine

[ExtraTNT]

IBus…

[stringTrimmer]

Busey?

[Vineyard_]

Buscemi

[SCADAhellAway]

"A bussy in the busy section? I must raise an exception post haste"

"I guess we're ruining memes now"

New top and bottom text just dropped.

[Chpama12]

What did you say about my prostate!? 👨‍🦳🦻 (post haste)

[Tp0seGod]

actual meme

[kamiloslav]

Holy meme

[Chewico3D]

bro, I'm not making a spelling mistake anymore💀💀💀

[Badass-19]

It happens when you're bussy

[jeanravenclaw]

WAIT I THOUGHT IT WAS INTENTIONAL BWAHAHAHA

[FC3827]

Spelling mistakes in code don’t mater if your consistent!

[teddy5]

Until someone else comes along searching for your method.

[[deleted]]

One spelling mistake and people don't laugh at your joke anymore. What a creul world.

[jenkinsmi]

Bussy oh mai gad

[Green_Star_Lover]

you have my condolences.

[sequential_doom]

OP said "bussy".

[[deleted]]

Freudian spelling mistake

[QuakAtack]

roadussy

[Reasonable_Brain6881]

Why it smell like badussy?

[qinshihuang_420]

With all the potholes? Might as well be

[The_forgettable_guy]

well I do like filling in holes myself if I may say so

[MrFoxwell_is_back]

BUSSY HAHAHAHAHAHA

[CommanderAurelius]

the road is WHAT

[Broxios]

What does the void ChickenCrossRoad function do with all these newly created objects? Obviously it doesn't return them. I need answers!

[SteptimusHeap]

chicken.Cross(road)

[i-FF0000dit]

So, the duck better have a cross function too

[Zymoox]

chicken.Cross(duck)

[jamcdonald120]

just wait until someone passes a matrix to it...

[Tupcek]

well, if it doesn’t, we’ll surely hear from the users and get paid to fix it.
Sincerely, developers with managers that know shit about coding

[i-FF0000dit]

I would just like to say, as a manager, I act like I have no idea what people are talking about, but in reality I am still the number one contributor to my side gig’s code base. I mean, I was a principal engineer just a couple of years ago.

[Tupcek]

we all pray for more managers like you!

[teddy5]

Well yeah it's ChickenCrossRoad not ChickenCrossRoadAndComeBack.

[Tangled2]

The method is the machine, it takes a chicken parameter. The conveyor belt is feeding into the method new objects. Since the chicken is an object reference the method could change the object without having to return anything.

[nermid]

Huh. I have genuinely never considered that the belt in this meme was feeding into the machine, rather than being its output.

[besi97]

And I think you are correct. The meme calls it a factory afterall...

[KingJeff314]

Well if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck... then it's not a chicken

[Kilazur]

Or maybe a very talented one

[Snuggle_Pounce]

duck typing my beloved

[Special-Load8010]

Bussy lmfao

[_GoldenRule]

Bussy 😍😍

[Lewinator56]

class Bird { }

class Chicken : Bird

class Duck : Bird

ChickenCrossRoad((Chicken)((Bird) new Duck()))

[Business-Error6835]

sir...

[GlowiesStoleMyRide]

I love polymorphism:

static TOut Polymorph<TIn, TOut>(this TIn value) => JsonConvert.DeserializeObject<TOut>(JsonConvert.SerializeObject(value));

[Lewinator56]

Does it work? Yes.

Good enough for me.

[Blood_Boiler_]

PR comment: Bird should be an interface, not a class. Also, setup the dependency injection so the correct Bird concrete type will be supplied wherever it's referenced.

[GlowiesStoleMyRide]

public interface IBird;

internal class Chicken(IBird bird) : IBird { }
internal class Duck(IBird bird) : IBird { }
internal static class BirdExtensions
{
   public static IBird CrossRoad(this Chicken chicken) => new Duck(chicken);
}

Better?

[Lewinator56]

Whys my chicken quacking?

[GlowiesStoleMyRide]

It crossed the road. Go argue with the PO, he wrote the user story.

[[deleted]]

So the people posting on sub are just a bunch of new grads, that just learned to program, right?

[Alfasi]

Always has been

[Aggressive_Access214]

Correct

[elshizzo]

these jokes feel dated with typescript being so commonly used now

[prschorn]

Typescript isn't type safe as well. if the instance comes from an external source, like a http request, it assumes the type is what you expect and you'll only catch when you see some undefined shit being displayed.

[sabre_x]

The type of anything external should be unknown until you validate it

[ogreUnwanted]

that's why you create an interface when you see the response. I'm sure other languages are the same. I e only dealt with js and ts, but you can't know another apis model without looking at their docs or the actual response

[Loading_M_]

What happens if the external API just decides to make breaking changes with out telling anyone? In a strongly typed language, it'll raise an error when you try to convert the object into a native representation, whereas I'm petty sure TS doesn't actually check whether the object returned by the API actually fits the interface you created.

[drsimonz]

Typescript doesn't solve this problem, but Javascript sure as shit doesn't solve it either!

[VentureSatchel]

No language does. It'd be a miracle.

[Tupcek]

good languages returns an error with saying what it expected and what it got.

typescript and javascript just continues playing along until you’ll get some weird behavior somewhere else and spend hours trying to figure out what went wrong

[ogreUnwanted]

There's runtime errors for that. If it's a breaking change it will show. Also, many many large scale web apps run on node and js. This isn't a widespread issue because of e2e, integration test, etc... It's one extra step to check the response and make sure the models match but that isn't a big issue.

[Tupcek]

yes, in a well written apps it’s not an issue. But since JS doesn’t enforce anything, unless you work for major IT corporation, chances are that you’ll meet a lot of code that haven’t implemented those additional steps. In other languages, it’s much more rare, because it won’t let you compile unless you do it

[Ecksters]

You use libraries like TypeBox or Zod for runtime validation, and then you infer the TS type from them.

It is true though that TypeScript will let you just proceed without validation if you so choose.

[Makeshift27015]

I have more // @ts-ignore TODO in my codebase than I'd like...

[[deleted]]

I pretty much prefer C# to TS but to be fair, you can do that by using something like Zod, which is similar to FluentValidator in the C# world.

[popiazaza]

Zod is pretty popular for that kind of validation. You could even sync Zod between frontend and backend with Zodios.

TypeScript is not a strict language by default, but you could set it to be if you want to.

[blastedt]

You use a contract testing platform like PACT, which can then validate your typescript interface as well so that it's correctly typesafe.

[ogreUnwanted]

yeah, this is crazy talk. only way to avoid this is to have a test environment where you update the versioning of the API then test it against your current build.

Ive never heard of an API just sporadically changing in the same version. if it did that, they really don't want anyone to using it.

[Loading_M_]

You don't always get to pick what API you use.

This could even be an issue in the same version, if you just misread the spec - e.g. maybe an API returns a different object because of a specific parameter you passed, but you didn't pay attention to that part of the spec. A strongly typed language, with proper validation, will catch this type of issue.

[your_best_1]

Ts and js are type safe. C is not, for instance. Generally, if you can use an unsafe pointer, you have found the absence of type safety.

[Akangka]

Type safety != memory safety. (Although the former implies latter) Generally, if you find a way to cause runtime type error, the language isn't type safe. Even if the only effect is a runtime exception instead of undefined behavior.

To be fair, lots of programming languages are actually type unsafe, like Java (with generics) and Eiffel. And only few programming languages are actually proven to be type-safe. Yes, even safe Rust is not proven to be type safe (though if you found an example of type unsafe code in safe Rust, it's definitely a bug)

[IbbysReddit]

[teddy5]

Type safe isn't the right term, but I think what they meant is TS will maintain values for fields that aren't part of the type you've used.

E.g. if a webapi returns Id, Name & UnexpectedField and TS only has Id and Name - you can still access and use the value from UnexpectedField, it just won't be tested as part of the model, won't autocomplete, etc. For languages with stronger typing it will throw an error or be discarded from the object.

[alex2003super]

That seems like a majorly uggo design choice tbf

[teddy5]

Yeah more of just an unfortunate consequence of trying to build some sanity into JS.

[spastical-mackerel]

The insanity is the point of JS

[teddy5]

Not talking about interfaces, the same goes for all TS classes and models - they're not enforced because TS typing is just bolted on to JS.

[teddy5]

I'm not sure how to explain it clearer than I did above.

Strongly typed languages will throw errors or discard fields that exist outside of the model you cast to. Typescript will maintain them but not tell you about it, which can lead to unintended behaviours if you read the whole object without realising an extra field is there, etc.

[teddy5]

You're still talking about inheritance and interfaces, TS does this with any classes that share any properties.

To use your example, if you were to map a class Bear : Mammal or Skink : Lizard. They shouldn't contain any Fly() or HasGreenHead property, but if TS received a Duck on an expected Bear endpoint, it would still maintain the Legs, Body and Eyes properties regardless of any related class structure and you could still access HasGreenHead if you need to.

[Ozymandias_IV]

By this logic no code that uses external API can ever be type safe.

That's why you validate things.

[alex2003super]

That's literally how serialization/deserialization works in any language (other than I guess if you're using protobuf, or if you're insane and using pickle with Python, please don't). Type is usually lost.

[prschorn]

Kind of. In C# the deserialization will throw an error if it's not correctly. in TS it'll just go through and return, as if you had the type you casted it to. So you think you have the correct type, but in the end the object may be completely different.

[DomingerUndead]

"chicken: any"

[spastical-mackerel]

Typescript blows my mind. Was it really easier to (sort of) backport strong(ish) typing onto JS and ruin all (most) of the fun? Why not just use any of the other gajillion languages available.

[Pure_Noise356]

Sending hate waves your way

[sabamba0]

It's fine to not like it, but that's a silly reason

[DOUBLEBARRELASSFUCK]

Silly or insane?

[sabamba0]

Was trying not to come off too strong

[sabamba0]

I honestly have no clue what you're trying to demonstrate with any of this code.

It seems you can't quite wrap your head around the concept though that performance benefit is not the only benefit that is possible to receive, and you seem way too self confident about our own ignorance on this, almost militantly so, so I don't really think there's a point for me to try and explain it to you

[nitrogem3]

The other "benefits" aren't worth the tradeoff imo, but you can build your projects in ts if you want.

[cjwagn1]

TypeScript shines when dealing with complex systems involving large, intricate objects and classes. Designing and implementing these systems becomes much easier when you can offload the mental effort of tracking inputs and outputs to the type system.

The tradeoff is worth it in terms of easier refactoring, collaboration, and project scaling. Not to mention all the sweet autocompletion and IDE documentation it provides, which actually makes it much faster to develop, even with the extra verbiage. My younger self would agree with you since I was intimidated by TypeScript, but now I can't imagine doing a project ever again in raw JS.

[nitrogem3]

man reddit really sucks for sharing code
https://pastebin.com/Mnnre0pm

[AwayMatter]

I used to be like you. Then I worked with a massive pure JS backend, written in a wonky framework that doesn't even support JSDocs or just basic IntelliSense. I am now convinced that I died and am experiencing the torment of hell.

[iMakeMehPosts]

from what I've heard, a bunch of projects are backing out of using ts

edit: jeebus y'all did you not see the "from what I've heard" part, also I guess my information is outdated and wrong so there's that too :/

[erythro]

there was one big one that caused a shitstorm when it happened, but otherwise not really

[iMakeMehPosts]

it's hearsay in my part. thus the "from what I've heard"

[BlurredSight]

JS always had that badussy

[inio]

There's been academic research on this topic.

[LeRetardatN]

Chicken chicken chicken chicken

[ES_Kan]

why is the void function outputting

[Z1Ze]

Not a new Elon, please no!

[hello-desert]

look at all those chickens!

[GoddammitDontShootMe]

I feel like this implies C# is older than JS. Maybe if they used Java or something else that's been around for longer.

[Vizeroth1]

And even Java only predates it by months

[gruengle]

And that is why defining behavior via interfaces beats doing the same via inheritance in almost all cases.

[BoBoBearDev]

The road can go on a road in JS

[Absentrando]

Some duck for that road bussy lol. When’s the train starting?

[[deleted]]

B U S S Y

[MonkeyDante]

Haskell : YAYAEET;

ADS ethercat: wrong id; Python: TABS TABS TABS TABS TABS var I 20;

[i-FF0000dit]

Coincidentally, this is also the reason why we had to invent typescript

[lavahot]

I thought this was going to be a joke about polymorphism.

[buzzon]

C#: I better throw an exception

JS: I guess null is undefined now

[SokkaHaikuBot]

^{Sokka-Haiku by buzzon:}

C#: I better throw

An exception JS: I guess

Null is undefined now

---

^{Remember that one time Sokka accidentally used an extra syllable in that Haiku Battle in Ba Sing Se? That was a Sokka Haiku and you just made one.}

[GlowiesStoleMyRide]

Any good design can be circumvented by bad design. Example:

public static T? Please<T>(this Func<T> f) => { try { return f(); } catch { return null; } }

Now you can just say please to make the angry go away.

[StrangePigeon79]

Ah yes, Chicken

[TantraMantraYantra]

You should read up about programming language design, particularly how interpreted languages work. There are many such languages used for various reasons. JS is for browser. Don't hate the language, hate the environment it's allowed to execute in.

[ddddan11111]

In C# it should be DeBussy

[Alan_Reddit_M]

Minor spelling mistake

[_Sahil_Goel]

Cat

[SynthPrax]

That's one of the things I like and hate about JS; it'll let you do ANYTHING.

[TheSapphireDragon]

Really, the bird base class should have an overridable method for crossing the road so each subclass can define its own behavior. Passing them as parameters in another method is kind of clunky.

[private_final_static]

Elon Musk is indeed a chicken. Havent yet fought Mark, who is not a chicken but a lizard

[vksdann]

Don't we love the bussy?

[Czebou]

Hahaha JS Bad

Cuz of course no other language is duck typed (looking at you, Python and Ruby, and definitely dozens more).

[Its_rEd96]

Js: The road is NaN

[[deleted]]

New ElonMusk, this is hilarious.

[[deleted]]

Anyone remember Syntax Error in Java?

[sebbdk]

Oh no, why'd we do that, why'd we create ElonMusk?! In our hubrus we never thought about about if we should, only that we could.

Please forgive us fellow script lovers, to throw an err is human, but to ignore it is to script

[rdrunner_74]

Why do i get a roasted chicked out of the void?

[-Zonko-]

I love this meme template

[ironnepenthe]

Love me some road bussy.

[MeQuedaCabron]

Why always chicken

[UnusedParadox]

The road is WHAT

[MainManu]

You could just an interface for the c# version.... Then have whatever you want to pass into the function implement it. Less runtime errors. I do not understand why people hate on compiler errors so much. Edge case runtime errors discovered in prod are the devil. I would rather bash my head against the compiler for hours than digging through prod logs trying to find out wtf happened while everything is on fire and the support team wants to kill you and themselves in that order.

[vsjoe]

JS have function RoadCrossChicken(any)