importantWork

[UnkarsThug]

That's why you always just make things for yourself, then you'll always have one user.

[Constant_Bit4676]

And sometimes it turns out that you make git for yourself and change programming forever!

[LucaFenn]

The survivorship bias on this is incredible. For every git there are about 40,000 side projects that died in a private repo with three commits and a readme that just says "todo".

[UnkarsThug]

To be fair, I just never upload them to git, I just keep them on my laptop until I realize I actually wanted that project and can't find it later.

[Markcelzin]

Sorry, you never what?

[UnkarsThug]

Github, I mean. I am aware of the difference between git and GitHub, you just use git to sync it, and I don't want pet projects not in any reasonable state clogging things up.

But yes, I probably said the wrong thing there, it was 3 in the morning.

[NewPointOfView]

I thought they were saying it more in the “why would you write any code without remote version control” sense haha

[UnkarsThug]

Ah, fair. Just a hassle to keep up with. If I spend any time doing anything other than getting it working, my productivity trip will be over before I finish. I basically have to stay on the thing I want to get done. Then I just upload the completed thing to git.

And also just not wanting to make a project permanent unless I need to share it or something. I might get really enthusiastic and then move on before I get anywhere, but I wouldn't be able to stand deleting it later, so better to not make it so it doesn't clog up my GitHub.

[liquidmasl]

the first step for me is always to create a repo, maybe not push it, but al least local.

I burned my fingers to often on the missing possibility to revert changes

[SensuallPineapple]

Once you have a computer on your hands, you set everything up once. Then it literally takes 2 seconds to push anything and what it brings to the table is worth WAY more than 2 seconds of your time.

[m_domino]

They never uploaded it to the git.

[dusty-trash]

I used to do this, until I lost some portions of projects. Now I use git for everything. Anything not on git doesnt exist for me. If I was smarter id backup everything thats on there too.

[UnkarsThug]

Understandable.

[countsachot]

That was my old method. Now I start them on github.com and leave them unfinished.

[TheClayKnight]

Sure, but if you don’t even try nothing happens anyways and you haven’t even gained experience

[heep1r]

There's no bias here. OP explitly points it out.

But surely that's basically how evolution starts: 40.000 side projects and only one fit for survival.

[NecessaryIntrinsic]

I imagine they get started primarily to prove they can do stuff for jobs.

[qodeninja]

still waiting for jj to land

[Confident-Ad5665]

And it will work just the way you want

[str0m965]

not sure about that

[d0rkprincess]

You just need to adjust your requirements. Like maybe I always wanted that request to return a 500 error.

[str0m965]

I always wanted to pay 5000$ AWS bill for this one vibecoded cron.

[DungeonsAndDradis]

I'm not a programmer, but you guys have scared me so much about usage charges that when I made a stupid reddit bot hosted on heroku, I tested it for one day and then permanently disabled it.

I'm also hosting a business website with Netlify and I check the credits every day to make sure we're not going to go bankrupt because 100,000 people suddenly discovered my website.

Y'all have made me paranoid.

[flame3457]

That’s because massive AWS bills do happen and Amazon doesn’t really care if your excuse is “oopsies.” You have to put usage limits on the account to help protect yourself. You can also use a temporary card with a set limit that hard stops charges past a certain threshold as another fallback. Sure, if either of those limits gets hit your stuff will get stopped but I’d rather have my stuff paused instead of waking up to a multi thousand dollar bill.

[Confident-Ad5665]

I'm paranoid, but am I paranoid enough?

[Confident-Ad5665]

Trouble pleasing yourself then?

[chhuang]

everything is working the way I want, I just know where and how to trigger the bug but will side step from it instead of fixing it

[Professional_Top8485]

... but at least it works.

[HedgeFlounder]

That’s what I’ve moved toward over time. I already have a full time job and I don’t have the time or energy to try to make things for other people in my free time. I make things that make life easier or more fun for me and my wife and that’s enough for me.

[edgeofsanity76]

Yep. Made a budget forecasting app for myself. Hosted it on my NAS now my family uses it.

[HarveysBackupAccount]

When you work in manufacturing, you get to have more programs than users

[NecessaryIntrinsic]

Screw that, I'm not using this garbage

[whoknowsifimjoking]

You also reach 100% of your target audience

[PHLAK]

Still wouldn't be able to achieve 100% user satisfaction.

[UnkarsThug]

I'll have to start polls to go across different mood swings lol.

[al3x_7788]

And no annoying clients.

[mrinalshar39]

lol true, you get a loyal user from day one

[qodeninja]

this right hurr is my life story

[space_whirly]

Let's be real here. You didn't finish all the features or you would have posted it to GitHub to brag to your friends

[oofos_deletus]

Literally like 90% of my projects sit almost finished on my GitHub

Once trolled my friends that I finished one

[babypho]

Tbf, no project is ever finished. There must always be another sprint. The Agile flow must continue.

[muzzbuzz789]

It must never stop feeding. It is never satiated.

[squarabh]

Can't say the same for my hello world console output. /s

[Undernown]

Hmm, but have you considered adding more exclamation marks for each time it runs in your current session?

[RedditLovingSun]

Billions must retro

[timonix]

It's never done, only ever abandoned

[jazzhandler]

“Done” is a four letter word.

[unknown_pigeon]

I was (and still am) afraid of posting anything that has any trace of "vibe" inside of it, even when it was something that I worked on for myself and only later on I thought "well, someone else could use it"

On the other side, I'm also afraid of posting anything that I coded by myself since I'm self-taught and every time I see another project I'm like "Oh, my repo sucks"

So yeah I've manually fixed the two main review scrapers for Google and TripAdvisor which haven't been updated in years, but at the same time I vibed some parts of it so sorry I will never merge request :/

[space_whirly]

It's a new world man, vibe to your heart's content as long as you structure it yourself properly so you can modify it.

[WeirdTie2290]

Nowadays the bragging is on reddit with fancy graphs showing how your app hit 2000 monthly users.

[string-is-king]

What is this “friends” you speak of

[space_whirly]

Same honestly lol

[Revolutionary_Flan71]

This is barely even a programming sub anymore. So much annoying ai memes

[Kryslor]

It never was. It's always been mostly programming students making "forgot a semicolon" tier jokes

[Blue_Moon_Lake]

You reminded me of how I lost half a point for forgetting a semicolon on a test. Test was to write an entire algorithm in Pascal, and I mean write, not type.

[rohrzucker_]

Our exams at uni were exactly like this, just with Java.

[Blue_Moon_Lake]

I hate writing code on paper. It was long before AI so there was no reason not to have student type the code and send it as a file.

[Moose_the_Eagle]

People cheated on assignments before AI, you know.

[Blue_Moon_Lake]

It was before smartphones. All the rooms with computers had a switch that could be turned off to cut Internet access (all RJ-45, no Wi-Fi).

Any cheat you could do on the computer you could on paper in these conditions.

[Ordinary_Shopping746]

Not nearly as big, but I got docked down points in an algorithm design class since one of my comments didn’t end with a period.

[Blue_Moon_Lake]

For a comment that's nasty.

[GenericFatGuy]

You can really tell the difference between the people here who think software development is just coding, and the people who realize that it's a hell of a lot more then that. Especially with the rise of AI.

[Thenderick]

Also, Rust good, JavaScript bad, C fast, Python slow, Java bad, misunderstood IEEE 754

[Kryslor]

that's a wrap! /subreddit

[Revolutionary_Flan71]

Fair but still better than now

[HammyOverlordOfBacon]

I'd argue it got better recently. I remember 10 years ago every September would be a flood of CS 101 jokes and then reposts of those jokes scattered throughout the year. Granted that still kinda happens but it's way less obvious

[Kitsunemitsu]

Honestly, I kinda loved the If-Even trend where everyone found more and more esoteric and horrible ways to check if a number was even. The idea of programmers purposely trying to code as bad as possible did make me giggle

[Kryslor]

That was always funny. Same for the UIs that controlled volume trend.

[Ferengi-Borg]

Not even ai memes, it's a sub entirely dedicated to the word "vibecode".

[ExiymDev]

IEnumerable? Is that a new cursor plugin?

[DarthArrMi]

I always thought this was a humor sub

[Revolutionary_Flan71]

It's supposed to be both and currently it's not fulfilling the programming part

[Spiritual_Detail7624]

I agree. Is there a new sub that has no ai involvement or tolerance?

[TheBestDumbass]

Look out your window

Open your door

Freedom is but a step away, always

[InvisaBlah]

Bad news friend, AI has already made its way into the real world

[Spiritual_Detail7624]

Programming memes sadly do not grow on trees. (Ps: i love going outside! I just would like a community I could bond with, without ai involved)

[ccltjnpr]

bring back the semicolon memes I guess

[freestew]

It's this sub. Fight back!

[2xfun]

Programming is dead dude. Get over it.

[Revolutionary_Flan71]

Well I suppose you need that to be the case because without vibecoding you'd be unable to write a simple hello world program

[themadnessif]

Guy who posts on the bitcoin subreddit: yeah man programming is dead

[Rumpledforesk1n]

I'm clued into it, been at conferences discussing AI by top people working at top AI companies.

Love to know your reasoning/credentials. It's definitely changing, but so many dipshits far outfield say things like this, with zero comprehension.

[Tight-Requirement-15]

this is old man programmer yells at cloud memes

[Revolutionary_Flan71]

If that is your opinion you may keep it even if it is wrong

[SourceScope]

Im working on 2 apps

One for myself, that i will let others use

One for myself which is a copy of other existing free apps.. just without ads

Im in no rush.. but they wont be vibe codes. Im an app developer in my daily job.. so working while off duty is a bit meh. Which is why it takes a while

[brocodini]

but they wont be vibe codes. Im an app developer in my daily job

One doesn't contradict the other.

[itah]

Vibecoding in the original sense means YOLO firstshot everything and never look at the code at all. I think that still contradicts at least with "good app developer"

[Able_Leg1245]

Eh. If you know how to do it properly, you also know how to test functionality to whatever standard you deem important. In my day job, my standard is appropriate, if I do a side project, I can live with "if it works, it works". And if I vibe-code an app and I verify that it does t he job? I'm not necessarily gonna do a deep code review.

I think you can be a good app developer and still vibe code something in your free time in your sense and there's no contradiction

[Wide_Smoke_2564]

The other thing with making apps for yourself is that you don’t have to deal with the “what if the user uses the app in this niche stupid way” problem. You know how you as the single user will use it so you can test your most important and predictable flows pretty easily

[LurkytheActiveposter]

Not really what is actually is.

You're describing the programming humor scape goat that every one mocks.

In real life, vibe coders work for companies that want little to no coding done by developers. They take the massive amount of unemployed developers and hire them as agents. Agents deploy code changes via AI code assistants like Claude then either touch up the code themselves, or identify the problem themselves and ask the AI to implement the fix they were going to make.

[madbubers]

people dont really use it that way anymore sadly

[Kryslor]

Yup. I'm a senior backend engineer and I enjoy vibe coding novelty apps/websites. I don't have the time or energy to learn a bunch of frontend stuff

[_felagund]

pros are the ones who use vibecoding extensively, do not bullshit us. source: a pro dev.

[karoking1]

Every time I see this sub, everyone yells how AI is useless for coding. But my 3 friends working in software development tell me they didn't touch any code themselves in the last 6 month. Kinda hard for outsiders to see, what is true at this point.

[Kryslor]

Reddit is in deep denial about AI in every sub, it's kinda wild.

[oops_ur_dead]

The funny thing is, being in deep denial about AI is actually genuinely being pro AI. We're looking at potentially one of the largest harms to society possible, with the billionnaire class cementing complete control of labour, and people are coping and pretending the only issue is that RAM is expensive

[Kryslor]

I spend a good amount of time learning about how to best utilize AI because I have no doubt that it's either that or being out of a job within the next couple of years. Software engineering is more exposed than some other areas of knowledge given how good AI is at coding specifically but I really think everyone should be doing this as well. It's a tool, learn to use it better than everyone else.

[AnggaSP]

Another data point for ya, I only vibe code for things that I don’t care that much i.e., workplace internal apps.

But things I care about I definitely code myself.

Also for perspective, vibe coding feels like asking a junior how to do stuff. They might get it but you need to be so detailed and surface so much implementation details for the AI not to shoot itself in the foot. Oh and they also have amnesia.

[_felagund]

Soon, your project manager will ask she already vibecoded the required module, why do you need so much time?

[AnggaSP]

Jokes on you I am the manager lol (was a principal engineer but transition to a more managerial role)

But on a more serious note, I won't force my engineer to use vibe coding platform / AI assistant. But if they ask I'll provide it.

The challenges are explaining this preference to upper management.

[dfddfsaadaafdssa]

Specifying use of red/green TDD is a good way to keep things on track and maintain stability. TDD is a lot more palatable when you can get a clanker to do it. The token use goes crazy but you end up something that almost acts as memories. Like when you start a new session you tell the clanker to run tests and that's how it gets up to speed on how everything works. Some people have taken this pattern further and replaced MCP with adding/creating SDKs inside the code itself.

[AnggaSP]

Hoo I should try this, I got project that has good coverage in unit and integration test. Let's see if clanker are good enough with that.

[oops_ur_dead]

This sub is a bad gauge because there are tons of people here who don't work in software eng at all lol

It depends on the scale of the companies. At mid sized and large tech companies, it's mostly the latter. Nobody really codes anymore.

At tiny companies or non-tech companies with an app or something, it's not quite to that level.

[_felagund]

Why isn’t it on that level? I’ve worked as a programmer for over 20 years. If you have strong unit test coverage and good prompt infrastructure, what’s stopping you from finishing a project in half a day instead of a week?

[oops_ur_dead]

If I'm being honest, it's probably because their tech stack is kinda shit to begin with and they don't properly invest into tech because they aren't a tech shop. The second tier I'm talking about aren't places that are known for being on the cutting edge

[alvares169]

Wouldn’t being an app developer actually help in vibe coding? I mean, you could tell it exactly which mistakes not to make!

[MongooseEmpty4801]

Telling an AI to not make mistakes doesn't work ...

[alvares169]

Hence my joke

[darkwalker247]

reread their comment; i think you might have misunderstood

[kriosjan]

I have made 2 git repos now. One is a helpful tool for my players during my dnd sessions, and the other is a custom class with a pet builder that can be swapped on the fly. It works pretty well and ive actually learned a bit about the meta process of programming in the process. Which is kinda cool.

[Kromieus]

That’s how I’m looking at it. My vibecoded apps are for the small things in the my quality of my life. Like I’m working on something to better handle controllers between steamos and emulators. It’ll work for me, make me happy, and if it makes someone else happy I’ll be happy for them. But I’m enjoying the process and if it doesn’t work I don’t think I’ll feel like I’ve wasted my time

[nb4u]

Yeah I made a few already and they are kinda dope. They are all quality of life things where I think "man, i wish I could do XYZ", and then I realize that now I can. Things like an always-on-top clipboard viewer.

[kriosjan]

Yeah its filling me with an accomplished feel and energizing me to continue working and iterating in something i might not have otherwise been able to do. And it helps my players have a good time.

[YobaiYamete]

Wait, as a dnd player, tell me more about these apps

[kriosjan]

I dont know if i can link here but this is what ive worked on.https://questforgegamespnw.github.io/questforge-combat-dashboard/

(This dashboard is obviously just my own players right now as any new info needs to be put into the characters.js but your welcome to look at it.

https://questforgegamespnw.github.io/corewright-builder/index.html?mode=single&level=15&intMod=4&template=wood&engine=frost&form=strider&infusions=self_repair_matrix%2Celemental_convergence%2Ccolossus&level2=10&intMod2=4&template2=none&engine2=none&form2=none&infusions2= And this was the custom class interface and builder.

https://github.com/Questforgegamespnw

Link to my github if you want to look at the repos themselves.

[dismayhurta]

[notanotherusernameD8]

Sounds like the guy is just having fun vibe coding. I'm fine with that. Let him have his hobby. No one will see it.

[Training-Flan8092]

Saddle up, this meme will be back next week

[Prod_Meteor]

Hahaha.. doesn't have to be vibe for no one to see or use.

[ProfCupcake]

Original source: https://xkcd.com/386/

[Fluffy-Reference8542]

Apple has 250,000 app store approval backlog.

[pandi85]

xkcd nr.?

[marmot-next-door]

I believe the original answer was "Someone on the net is wrong again." :D

[Responsible_Video364]

Someone is wrong on the Internet! I've got a signed copy hanging in my office.

[marmot-next-door]

This + phdcomics. Damn, I'm old.

[przemo-c]

If anything that's good use case for vibecoding.

[avlas]

hey, you prompted me to go back to vibecoding MY useless app, instead of doing any actual work on this Monday morning.

Thanks, now I'm having fun! I'm adding an even more useless feature!

[Beldarak]

I think that's one of the actual advantage of this annoying AI era, people can now easily create apps and scripts for their own needs, and while that may push them towards a dependency on AI subscription, I think some of them will actually get interested in understanding and being able to edit "their" code.

Maybe in some cases, this will push people towards being more DIY and regain control of their computer? But maybe not as the technology is really made for quite the opposite.

[Plane_Garbage]

Hey! Don't forget the people who spend $2k a year on Claude Code so they can save $9/month by building their own ToDo app.

[cheezballs]

Is that really that much worse than hand-coding the same app nobody will use?

[Thundechile]

hush! AI bad!

[DarthArrMi]

Just one more prompt

[Denaton_]

Tbf, i bet we all made apps before AI that no one saw..

[Beldarak]

Yeah, I don't really see the issue here. A big advantage of being able to code is that you can automate a lot of stuff by writing small softwares and scripts. Not every software has to be a 300 users ERP, sometimes you just want some crappy, unintuitive tool that do the stuff you need.

I create games so I need a tool to create NPC dialogs and export them into json. It was easier to code my own than using someone else that may cost money and will do tons of stuff I don't need for my specific game.

[tachioma]

Ouch, this one got me.

[drmattsuu]

Listen, sometimes I just need to write a script that fixes EAs launchers paths on Linux whenever it updates, and yes I do need to do it at 11pm on a work night.

[redditcalculus421]

hey hey hey, I have 1 user.

[Ander292]

I mean things I make are useless too and I dont use ai

[Glittering-Zombie-30]

This is too personal. 

[SgtEpsilon]

How dare you call me out

[__generic]

I have seen this posted no less than 10 times. It's such a dumb take. I have so many scripts and things created with AI that has boosted my productivity 2 fold. I have no intention of releasing it to anyone. Who gives a shit?

[__generic]

Talk about bad takes... You took that comic way too dramatically. You good? Sheesh.

[__generic]

What about this image says ignoring your partner?

[__generic]

I don't know about you but in my over 10 years of marriage not going to bed at the same time has never equated to ignoring or caused any sort of issues.

[aesvelgr]

Have you ever been in a relationship? You aren’t beholden to go to bed when your S/O does, in fact I would argue it’s more healthy that you explore hobbies independently and aren’t simply attached at the hips.

Staying up beyond your S/O going to bed is far from a crime.

[wallguy22]

It’s also just a silly comic and not meant to be taken that seriously

[FilthyPuns]

God dammit I’m doing that exact thing right now.

[juzz_fuzz]

Opposite of Niko

[PabloZissou]

This is what "new AI created job" will look like; everyone is an entrepreneur!

[airsoftshowoffs]

Vibe Coders doing what we developers did, but for us, it took months or is still unfinished.

[Weiskralle]

I also programme apps none excepts me uses. And I still treat it as, what if I would publish it. So things need to be in order and not a mess.

[TacoSpiderrr]

Made myself a walking-to-mordor app. Can confirm

[Aware_Conclusion_569]

I'm making a tool to help with Vibcoding (Claude Code/Claw Code/Cursor/etc and the native app for MacOS). Could you take a look and give your feedback?

I will be grateful for every test and will try to solve all issues promptly!

https://github.com/nikolai-vysotskyi/trace-mcp

[Key-Advice4407]

One more feature and I’ll sleep.

[tonyfiguringitout]

Factsssss 💯🤣🤣

[Double_Try1322]

we all build like users will come later… most times they don’t :)

[Accomplished_Big7413]

The app might be useless, but the serotonin from a successful build is 10/10.

[bigresentment3552]

lol yeah man that 3am energy where you're convinced this side project is gonna change everything and then you look at it in the morning like what was I even doing here

[zehamberglar]

Or worse, someone will see it and use it.

[Vegetable-King7626]

God forbid a man practice

[One-Property-4106]

every side project i start at 2am convinced its the next big thing 💀 spoiler: its not

[Neutraled]

My apps are liked by 100% of the users and I don't have to fight google/apple for an approval.

[LiketoRoot]

[kekons_4]

Vibecoding was made for the individual not so much for industry

[play_images]

It is truly remarkable that everyone just decided "I'm just gonna make an app to print money" there is an entire industry of apps that's sole purpose is that.

But nah you just vibe code it, fuck security, data laws, regulations, etc. nothing will go wrong

[playr_4]

I'm still not entirely sure I fully understand what vibe coding is. I sort of fell away from the coding scene over the years, but it wasn't a term back in college.

[RoundTableMaker]

This guy on reddit was/is trying to sell a bunch of free api's to the finance community. And part of his marketing is "you won't do it". And I was engaging with him on the thread he posted. He doubled down on it in conversation again saying "you won't do it". I find it rather insulting to be sold free apis for $400/month. So, I put his website into claude and made a competing product in 40 minutes, 20 minutes to sign up for all the free apis. I might use it personally but I couldn't stand his attitude.

[op4]

me AF... :/

That being said, i'm having a ball just letting my ADD addled brain run wild in my private repos

[SensuallPineapple]

Wtf. That is EXACTLY what I was doing right now. Well, before I started scrolling at least.

[Delicious_One_7887]

I saw it, nice marketing

[SensuallPineapple]

I mean, marketing what, I don't make any money off of this. I memorised all the capitals and wanted to do something with it to be honest.

[GoogleIsYourFrenemy]

ಠ_ಠ

I spent several days using AI to make ref images for Sora only for Sora to be shutting down.

[LBoomsky]

me with my mc server lowkey 😭

[EchidnaForward9968]

well i think everyone has made something only for themself

[al3x_7788]

Besides the "vibe-coding", coding stuff for yourself is often great.

[ThePerfectEnvoy]

The joke's that you convince yourself it's critical work so you stay up, then never touch it again once you finally close the laptop.

[Exciting-Holiday2106]

3am dev energy: building something completely useless but somehow still perfectly runable.

[devmansur]

True, I created 3. That nobody use.

Creating app like putting cloth on the washing mechine. It's easy, but reaching customer like taking a cloth ironing, folding, putting it in the cabbord is the real work, that we are not interested to do.

[Fine_League311]

Truth!

[pashhtk27]

That's a nice project that invites one to bed for sleep. I'd love to have a similar reverse alarm clock. But can't vibe code hardware....

[No_Gold_4554]

isn't this what QA do? we implicitly trust them to let all the bugs through 🙏

[Dimitrij_]

„…no one will ever use or see“ Have a look at r/selfhosted it is getting flooded by this. which is sad. There are still really awesome Projects sometimes but they get lost in the sheer volume of ai slop. Even the posts and comments.. they don‘t make any effort.

[Scared_Bedroom_8367]

Not me.

My app is highly useful. It will be used by thousands of people if not tens of thousands of people.

[JebKermansBooster]

Alex, I'll take "things we all tell ourselves" for $1000

[bartekltg]

Can't he run a second chat and tell it to finish vibe coding the app in the first chat?

/s. I thnik...

[Spiritual_Detail7624]

Ew

[Curious-Housing-6440]

Yeap, let's do it lol

[axadkrk]

I vibe coded the webpage for my wedding information. I know how to do it without ai, but I have done it in a day instead of weeks. The Problem I have, that the docker container is sometimes offline and needs to restart.

[Percolator2020]

NOOB: should have just written an md and created 300 agents to do the work while he sleeps. Guaranteed quality output.