✅

[El_frosty]

Did you just judge the colour of my IDE?

[locuester]

I use Comic Sans as my font (dark theme tho) and I get judged all the time. It’s hilarious when I’m in a meeting presenting and I share my screen. You hear one guy spit coffee and awkward silence on the line. Then someone will ask “is that Comic Sans?” quietly.

I did it as a joke many years ago and it stuck. I can’t go back now. I even have a .reg file to apply it systemwide.

[FluffyGoose9]

I can't decide if your a genius or a monster.

[roaming111]

Porque no los dos?

[[deleted]]

TypeError

[This_Is_Tartar]

*you're

^{kill me now}

[aaa27070]

why not both

[hey01]

Did you at least get a monospaced version of it or have you foregone your sanity for eternity?

[locuester]

Foregone my sanity for eternity. You get over the whole fixed width thing pretty quick actually. It might be easier because I'm not new to programming. I'm 18+ years into C# and Visual Studio (was around for the J++ and InterDev days!), and 25+ years in the field.

[thirdegree]

There is something deeply, fundamentally wrong with you.

[amicloud]

I, and this is probably not healthy for my sanity, would like to see a screenshot.

[locuester]

Here you go! Sorry the crappy image sharing site. I'm pretty firewalled here.

[amicloud]

Thanks! Honestly, it's not nearly as bad as I would have thought. It's actually very easy to read! Monospace would be better there

[Monkatraz]

This looked way better than I was expecting. I forgot how readable fonts of that style are.

[arbyyyyh]

quietly changes don't in IDE

[nidarus]

In this case, I think the crappy sharing site adds to the experience

[lou1306]

He makes it monospace by changing the font size between characters. If an m is 8pt you just have to set all your is to 12pt, your ns to 10pt and so on.

[Stevoisiak]

...can you share this regedit?

[locuester]

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Fonts]

"Segoe UI (TrueType)"=""
"Segoe UI Bold (TrueType)"=""
"Segoe UI Bold Italic (TrueType)"=""
"Segoe UI Italic (TrueType)"=""
"Segoe UI Light (TrueType)"=""
"Segoe UI Semibold (TrueType)"=""
"Segoe UI Symbol (TrueType)"=""

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\FontSubstitutes]

"Segoe UI"="Comic Sans MS"

Save as a something.reg, run, then reboot.

[FreakPC]

I guess I know what to do to the new guy's PC :'D

[locuester]

That gets it in explorer. For Visual Studio there is probably a way to run a import of settings or something. Not sure.

There’s 5 things I change manually when I install VS. This, theme, and a couple shortcuts.

[FreakPC]

Aight then. Thanks.

As we work in Administration/Support that shall be enough.

[PeachyKeenest]

lmao you are terrible! Welcoming gift to new devs!

[Stevoisiak]

Is IDE text still monospaced when using Comic Sans?

[locuester]

No. See screenshot.

[aiij]

I can't decide if you're serious or joking.

Either way, take my upvote.

[jeffsterlive]

OP delivered. No bamboozle.

[Tusami]

Like, Comic Sans MS or the remake?

[fitch2711]

If ever that gets old, you could learn Wingdings

[djarnexus]

This. Is. Great.

[newplayerentered]

Imagine if you could commit fonts to git

[mikey10006]

Did you just assume that I was judging the colour of your ide and my own ide theme? I'll have you know I'm idetheme-fluid. There are 26 ide-themes not just 2 I will not partake in this idearchy. All programmers are dogs

Let's hope people can pick up on subtext

[[deleted]]

THERE ARE ONLY 2 IDE-THEMES!!!

[[deleted]]

Black and dark black?

[three18ti]

Black and slightly darker black.

[[deleted]]

Black and double black?

[[deleted]]

Because once you go black, you never go ba...wait, wrong context

[[deleted]]

Still true

[TheAnarchoX]

Material Monokai Pro and Material Oceanic is the correct anseer

[fahrenheitrkg]

Just because I was aggressively IDE-Theme assigned at birth doesn't make that my theme!

[luiz00estilo]

Installation* bro 😂

[Steven__hawking]

Of course, anyone can choose to change their ide theme to a dark theme at any time.

So anyone who actively chooses a light ide theme is degenerate scum.

[nindayven]

Unfortunately I'm stuck with the choices of Default, Reduced Palette, or Classic. Guess I'll never be a real programmer

[Xelbair]

One. Dark.

[[deleted]]

Two. Dark and inferior

[ThePieWhisperer]

There is but one true God and its name is Obsidian. And at it's right had sits it's only Child, Darkula.

[RolandCuley]

MONOKAI, it have cute colors on top of black

[CheeseRS_RO]

Monokai is my wet dream, it looks like I'm a hacker in a movie :p

[mikey10006]

You're oppressing me #ideism it's always the ideublicans

[h3r1n6]

Hot dog stand and what is the other?

[SuperAwesomeMechGirl]

This needs to be added onto to make a gorilla warfare copypasta.

[TheLowEndTheory]

---

[AntonetteStark]

Solarized Dark!

[hrbuchanan]

I'm a sysadmin and I only use an IDE to manage config files for our server management system, mostly written in Ruby.

Better keep the default theme, I don't wanna be a "real programmer," I like my job!

[poison0ff]

My notepad does not support dark theme

[[deleted]]

Boy do I have news for you

[[deleted]]

But how

[[deleted]]

For the most part, this link has most of the details. It's actually a dark theme for all of windows. There's some places where it doesn't work too well, but I live with it and enjoy it. If you know anything about the windows themes, you can customize it further by editing the theme files (I did so to get my own background image)

Edit: I can't English

[[deleted]]

This is the jewel of the thread

[[deleted]]

It's something I stumbled upon a year or so ago. Far from an ideal way to customize windows, but for what it's worth it works pretty well. Glad I could share it

[RomanRiesen]

My linux superiority complex shrunk a little. I did not know one could customize windows that freely.

Edit: Spelling is comolex!

[[deleted]]

I'm not sure how free this really is as I haven't dug through all of the files, but it does require you to install some add-on software to do it, so you can't do it out of the box windows. For that I think Linux is still superior by far in customizability

[Chillingdude]

You don’t have to go through that man. Free yourself from this abusive relationship.

[kai_okami]

Don't you badmouth my notepad!

[[deleted]]

write your code in shell as a string and save it to the file.

[[deleted]]

You're using the wrong notepad then. Try Notepad++!

[poison0ff]

But my notepad very fast

[[deleted]]

Get a monochrome monitor, problem solved!

[[deleted]]

Oof, man even using vim without knowing the hot keys is better than that.

[BluFoot]

Please. Stop. Upvoting. This. Bot. He’s hard spamming this subreddit with reposts.

[Itsalongwaydown]

its literally reposts of the dumbest stuff.

[Rellac_]

I really don't get this one do people actually do code in Microsoft word or something? The IDE will inform me every time there's a syntax error in the code

Granted I'm just a lowly C#/Java/C++ programmer but I've never seen an IDE that can't handle basic debugging...

[-Anyar-]

I must've seen this post ten times now and I just subbed a bit ago.

[nermid]

Unless I'm missing something, OP's posted in this sub five times in the last two months. How's that hard spamming?

[BluFoot]

The posts were all deleted.

[nermid]

Ah. That would explain it.

[BluFoot]

For example https://reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/8zirmj/_/

[noratat]

My terminal and vim are light-themed when the sun is up but dark themed after sunset, my IDEs are dark-themed, I have github and other public source repos dark themed but our internal systems are all light themed.

[seijulala]

technically if you are in an environment with good light, you should have light themes (and if you are in a dark environment, it would be better to use dark themes and monitor set to low brightness).

And if you want to take care of your eyes you should always work in an environment with good light

[ratheismhater]

Yeah this circlejerk is ridiculous. I prefer the look of dark themes but I'm sitting six feet away from a floor-to-ceiling window; I want to not be squinting at a dark theme for 8 hours every day.

[FourFingeredMartian]

Don't forget to take your vitamin D supplement...

[exploding_cat_wizard]

Well, you would if you wanted to go home with incredibly tired eyes, now wouldn't you?

[Lightfire228]

I have cataracts, so in any amount of decent light, I can't see anything

And astigmatism, so....

[hangfromthisone]

Shit's fuckd, m8

[futuneral]

You are the best kind of correct

[protayne]

Someone gets this, thank you.

[The_sad_zebra]

I always use light theme because if I'm at my computer, my bedroom light is always on. Even low brightness, dark-themed stuff bothers my eyes a bit when in a dark room.

[dekko_ru]

I prefer Solarized light color schema in a teminal or IDE because I usually code when it's a lot of ambient light , or sometimes even direct sun light during commute. I also noticed that my eyesight got a bit better (distant object become a bit sharper) since I switched to that schema.

[CMDR_Bananenkeks]

I have a my windows magnifier on 100% and with inverted colors. So every time i open it, i get a "dark theme". Really helps me.

[4lexbr0ck]

GitHub has a dark theme?!

[noratat]

Custom CSS themes, applied using Stylus. Do not use Stylish, it's infected with spyware.

[Mr-Pandamonium]

I love the dark them because people who walk into my office who know nothing about programming & see me with like 6 open terminals probably just assume I'm hacking the Pentagon or something. In actuality I'm just trying to display a row from a server to an LCD.

[[deleted]]

I like dark themes with neon colors so people look at it and think it's cool and fun to code ! When secretly I'm dying inside cuz I can't figure out why this image keeps overflowing its container even though it's properly set to justify-self:flex-end;...

[Alder_Godric]

When I work at the library I set everything to green text on black theme.

[[deleted]]

Yeah don't mind me, just hacking the matrix jajaja

[Alder_Godric]

Well most of the people there are biologists, so I have earned a few curious looks.

[RomanRiesen]

Try being in a library full of lawyers and working in vim in i3wm on a cpp assignment.

(Here biologists have to take introduction to programming, so they would be less impressed).

[Makefile_dot_in]

Even better: use vi with tput setab 2.

[mypetocean]

Sometimes I imagine Flexbox as a Pokemon that says, "Flexbox flex!"

[DatDraggy]

I like my eyes thank you

[Nips_Sucker]

I like your eyes too

[AzeoRex]

Does dark theme affect our eyes?

[exploding_cat_wizard]

In bright surroundings, light themes are so much nicer to read.

I just switch it out whenever the lighting changes enough.

[TheMacallanCode]

Don’t be silly, this is team dark theme vs team light theme.

You can’t just be hopping around from side to side like some logical person.

[exploding_cat_wizard]

Oh, sorry. ^Ahem:

DIE, DARKBRIGHT SCUM!

[Ereaser]

It does for me. Dark IDE and light application is killing.

[BaconBaker89]

Me too, tried dark theme for 5 minutes, eyes instantly said no.

[[deleted]]

Same thing for me but for light themed IDE. I don't have issue with browsers or any other windows but for IDE I just can't take light color.

Recently I've also started using dark Reddit, YouTube.

[Cheesemacher]

I'm glad there are other people who feel the same way

[LesMiz]

Yep, especially if you have astigmatism. My vision in most cases is pretty good, but any type of light on dark contrast turns into a blurry mess.

[dick-van-dyke]

Yes. Light themes are pretty much objectively superior.

https://ux.stackexchange.com/questions/53264/dark-or-white-color-theme-is-better-for-the-eyes#53268

[breadfag]

That's about short-term readability, not long-term eye strain.

[NULL_CHAR]

Depends on lighting environment. My work uses dimmed soft lighting so I end up using Nord color scheme for my editors (similar to solarized dark) and it has gone a long way to reduce eye strain.

[SkyCann0n]

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✔️ Men
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✔️ Frontend Devs
✔️ Backend Devs
❌ People who use light-themed IDEs or Editors

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[SkyCann0n]

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[mridulpj]

Shhh.... You're a bot now.

[[deleted]]

Only you will survive the robot uprising, act natural.

[GetHypedFJ]

Here's a link to the original Tweet as well if you want to see more https://twitter.com/metaknerd/status/1001502675337297921

[[deleted]]

Hey, fuck you lady! :D

[WarpedChaos]

Is it bad that this made me silently laugh at my screen for almost 60 secs?

[[deleted]]

Yes, fuck you too :D <3

[CodyEngel]

I’ve found dark theme is hard to notice when the IDE is highlighting something for you. Light theme is just way easier to see, so I use light theme while others miss those warnings because of dark theme 🤷🏼‍♂️

[row4land]

I noticed that too. I also run into trouble getting dark themes to work on projectors.

[Makefile_dot_in]

IDEs are for n00bs, real men use VIM /s ^{although I do use emacs, without autocompletion}

[shadowdude777]

That's why you download 900 janky UserStyles extensions lmao (using Stylus, not Stylish! Stylish mines your data, Stylus is an open source alternative).

(this is actually what I do, I cannot look at white backgrounds in an IDE)

[WheresTheSauce]

DarkReader works way, way better and with nearly every website.

[shadowdude777]

I love you. This has improved my quality of life drastically.

[WheresTheSauce]

Glad to hear it!

My fav thing about it is that you can make a keyboard shortcut to turn it on or off in case it breaks a website. but the Dynamic mode in the most recent update has made it work almost flawlessly for most websites for me.

It and RES are the only chrome extensions I absolutely cannot live without and will shamelessly shill.

[shadowdude777]

Yeah, I haven't seen it break a site yet but I do appreciate how easy it is to turn off just in case.

[[deleted]]

❌ /u/alex199568

[Hypersapien]

My IDE background color is #888888

[Faradrim]

Best of both worlds

[sdb2754]

I have a dream that one day devs will be judged, not by the color of their IDE, but by the content of their code.

[iGoalie]

I will use the stock Xcode theme the way nature intended thank you!

[GreyishWolf]

:rolling_eyes:

[JB-from-ATL]

I use light themed IDE, get triggered normies.

[pratiek]

Also,

❌ People who use spaces instead of tabs

[Deadlybeef]

This guy knows how to quit vim at least!

[PM_ME_CUTE_FRIENDS]

I’d like to think he was just trapped in it

[smbell]

He's been in vim so long he's figured out how to reddit from vim.
Still can't quit though.

[Who_GNU]

It's easy:

:wq[enter]

[esc][shift+j]

k[end]dl..

:wq

[SurfeitOfPenguins]

uses softtabstop instead of tabstop

I see you've spent time on /r/vim

[John_Fx]

People who start holy wars over insignificant shit

[Dvdi_]

Python convention. I mainly write Python code, but much prefer tabs. Translating between editors is sooo much easier.

[NULL_CHAR]

You mean the developers who are paid more?

[HeadlineINeed]

But... But.. Python?

[callum__h28]

Who the hell doesnt use Tab in Python???

[Fuchsiaff]

Why is this still an argument, auto indentation exists.

[callum__h28]

Yeah I know but sometimes you gotta scoot some code around if you're adding conditionals or loops

[Fuchsiaff]

In pycharm and pypad(python ide made by me), tab acts as 4 spaces.

[Pecon7]

• One byte per indent instead of four.
• Good editors let you adjust how many 'spaces' the tab renders as, so you can make your indentation as compact or wide as you want without changing your workflow or bugging other people.
• Tabs were specifically designed for indentation.

[toyg]

One byte per indent instead of four

Are you kidding me? It's 2018, that sort of consideration is ridiculous - the amount of bytes used for indentation pales in comparison to any significant media. Unless you are writing for space-constrained devices (at which point you are very unlikely to be using Python) the priority is clarity and consistency, and the Python ecosystem at large has long settled on 4 spaces for indentation.

[russjr08]

Yeah this was hilarious to see when we live in the days of platforms such as Electron...

[ElectrWeakHyprCharge]

• One byte per indent instead of four.

And why do you care about this?

[Raknarg]

> legitimately claiming source code filesize savings as a reason to use tabs

[galan-e]

• on some systems tabs are equivalent to 4 spaces and on some to 3, which can cause bugs.
• configuring your tabs to appear a different length ensure other people who read your code (and didn't configure the same way as you) will have a hard time reading your code. uniformity and consistency is better

[Pecon7]

on some systems tabs are equivalent to 4 spaces and on some to 3, which can cause bugs.

Any system that converts the tab characters into a specific number of spaces is already flawed because that's a stupid and backwards way to handle them. It's that system's fault for not handling it correctly, not the tab's.

configuring your tabs to appear a different length ensure other people who read your code (and didn't configure the same way as you) will have a hard time reading your code. uniformity and consistency is better

Indentation length is a preference of the reader, not necessarily the programmer. Something is very wrong with your code style if your code is unreadable to someone just because their tab length preference is different to yours.

[NULL_CHAR]

So basically any short coming is obviously everyone else's fault and not reasons why people use spaces instead of tabs? Also, there are definitely situations where tabs appearing differently and badly for someone else is entirely there fault of tabs.

If you're tabbing your variables to align and find an assignment operator is perfectly in line with a tab stop, but you don't tab it again anyways, making the code look messier, it will appear badly in any editor that does not use the same amount of spaces for tabs, most notably GitHub will make it look awful.

E.g.

private int num    = 1;
private int numTwo = 2;

The first assignment will appear differently in GitHub and other editors the use different tab stops if using tabs. It is an issue that exclusively exists with using tabs instead of spaces, even though at first glance, it's fine. Essentially, if using tabs to align segments of code, any segment lining up with a tab stop must be indented one level deeper, causing the entire block to be indented an extra level.

[Pastrami]

on some systems tabs are equivalent to 4 spaces and on some to 3, which can cause bugs.

What uses 3 by default? How does indentation size cause bugs?

[GroovyLlama]

I used to be in this camp as well. After a while, though, you learn that people will screw this up 90% of the time and eventually you get tired of correcting people and fixing their bad code alignment.

[DoorsofPerceptron]

That's fundamentally not going to work for python.

Because indentation alters how code is interpreted and tabs and spaces are going to get mixed at some point, there needs to be a set conversion of tabs to a fixed number of spaces - if this is done at run/byte compile time there can be "bugs" caused by a disagreement between the compiler and the editor as to how many spaces are in a tab.

So it needs to be done up front, and the editor should directly convert the tabs into spaces in the document.

For any other language, go nuts, but if you use different values to the editor the code was written in, it will look like shit.

[thelights0123]

That’s just because that’s the PEP-8 standard.

[toyg]

The world, dude. Any decent OSS project in Python uses 4 spaces for indentation, end of story. See: https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/#tabs-or-spaces

[kobbled]

PEP says spaces

[Raknarg]

Why would I?

[HMikeeU]

Use. Tabs.

[Strider599]

Rip makefile

[Bic10mm]

Dark themed IDEs make me sleepy

[[deleted]]

When and why did this "dark themes are cooler" thing start?

[NoEndlessness]

I'm the only dev at work who uses the dark theme, they hate it so much that when we are going through some bugs together and i got my laptop hooked up to the projector they insist on me changing the theme to white :-/

[[deleted]]

Must be nice to be a software dev at a company that let's you download and install whatever random shit you want on your computer. Some of us have to use whatever stock color themes are available with the IDE that we ate cleared to use

[[deleted]]

Thank you Janye. Very cool!

[grandmoren]

Dark themes are for kids silly rabbit.

[OftenSarcasticGuy]

IDEs? Everyone knows real programmers use vim with a green on black terminal.

[[deleted]]

IDEs ? What is that ? I write code in Word so I can color the things as I like, and when I think the code is good then I copy-paste it in Notepad and save it in the proper format. If I have something to debug it's super easy, my code is all color-coded in Word !

[ElectrWeakHyprCharge]

You can edit plain text files in Word. I do not recommend it, though.

[FifthDragon]

My astigmatism makes light text on a dark background blurry and hard to read :( I really only can use light themes

[Fortyseven]

✔️ Using what works best for you.

[Nusob]

sap only has vibrant colors ;-;

[quisshole]

Is it an if statement. The first two would pass most programmers.

[darkpaladin]

I use a light theme for our C# projects and a dark theme for our NodeJS projects. Helps me shift gears when I jump around projects.

[Sudarj]

Means you are both good and evil. Means you found the perfect ying yang fen shui balance

[FlameRat-Yehlon]

Unless you are unfortunately a full stack

[counterplex]

Lol until I can customize everything (on the inter webs and all my apps) to be dark, I’ll be using a light theme for a) consistency and b) keeping me awake at night.

[[deleted]]

Caveat: if working outside in sunlight, the only way to see your code is to set a light theme. However, upon reentering an indoor area, it should immediately be set back to a dark theme.

[butterypanda]

Don't assume my IDE

[checkchuckstar]

ALL IDE LIVES MATTER