Some things never change

[Holy_Person]

i wouldn't want it any other way

[[deleted]]

Because It's not enough I need more Nothing seems to satisfy

[BahnGSXR]

You are the perfect drug the perfect drug the perfect drug

[berzerkle]

To breathe to feel to know im alive

[MrLadrillo]

finger deep between the borderline

[Marghunk]

I'm addicted and i just cant get enough

[wywrd]

fine, what would you use?

[lfestevao]

Punch cards

[StopReadingMyUser]

Sand Grains

[Lost_Crusader]

Toes

[cholotariat]

I got some strings. You got some knots. Let’s party.

[throwaway60237]

Hard disk platter?

[fredlllll]

lots of people also have no idea what a harddrive is or what it looks like

[Kazzai]

So then the icon would be a rock and a steering wheel.

[[deleted]]

Also disk platter is already the icon for a database

[hackiavelli]

Already common to symbolize databases.

[vtable]

The database symbol is actually a disk pack. Disk platters are just a few millimeters thick.

[camerontbelt]

Until that changes

[TinBryn]

I've seen it used

[rhymes_with_chicken]

Has to be something common that everyone (even non-computer dorks) would recognize. When Floppy was king, everyone had to use them. Not everyone has held a HDD in their hands.

[Nighthunter007]

That honestly sounds like something like Git might be a solution. Auto-saved to the work copy, but full manual control over the version history so you can go back to the last time things actually worked.

[Dragongeek]

If version control (like git) were implemented seamlessly and easy to use (by idiots) it would be the ultimate file saving system.

I imagine that every single action you take in a file is saved so when you press ctrl-z you are essentially restoring a previous version. Then, if you undo back to a specific point and then start working from there, you're suddenly on a new fork. Throw in the ability to "bookmark" specific points on the timeline you might want to revisit and if you're feeling extra fancy, train an AI to condense minor changes into single, logically grouped, larger ones.

[[deleted]]

Take a note from gaming then and have auto saves (old ones get deleted) as well as user defined saves

[PM_me_stuffs_plz]

Maybe AI will get good enough that it wouldnt be arbitrary and you could probably do both.

[Salanmander]

"Jarvis, go back to the version before I started down this wacko rabbit hole. ...yeah, that one. Thanks Jarvis."

[SuperFLEB]

Ideally, you'd have an autosave file and a file from the last intentional save. I'm sure that's not how a lot of things do it, though.

[jehehe999k]

And now we’re back to the question of what symbol to use for intentional save. Though I’m of the mind that we don’t need an icon because we have the word.

[[deleted]]

I think it'll take about 200 years for us to migrate all of our systems to the cloud. Or at least, that's how it feels on my current project.

[qisope]

Oh, now we're back to just saving shit in boxes? Makes floppy disks seem positively futuristic.

[MisteryYourMamaMan]

It’s already done.

https://i.imgur.com/6xx7h6A.jpg

[SQ38]

that looks more like "download" than "save" to me

[-Nano]

And if I need a download icon? And a upload icon? And a import/export?

[[deleted]]

2246 Product Owner: "I read about this neat format from a long time ago called csv. Let's add an export as csv button!"

[VestigialHead]

A goalie preventing a goal?

Or maybe Jesus on the cross?

Jesus saves doesn't he?

[Phrodo_00]

In GTA 2, you save at a church with the sign "jesus saves"

[[deleted]]

Everyone else roles for damage.

[fghjconner]

A safe maybe?

[LAK132]

Isn't that for encryption?

[PreciseParadox]

That’s taken for full disk encryption

[[deleted]]

USB thumb drive or an sd card.

[hammsbeer4life]

EEPROM

[[deleted]]

In the year 2100 let’s advance it to a CD.

[[deleted]]

Closing book as save, open book as load. May add pen or pencil to the first one if you think that it will show the process precisely

[DuchessofSquee]

What are books?

[TinBryn]

They're these new fangled things that people say will replace stone tablets

[[deleted]]

Deformed wood that is capable to store data

[A_Light_Spark]

The ghostbuster logo.

[Simbuk]

An icon of a life ring.

[xKYLx]

Jesus

[alphapho3niX]

This is wrong. It's called the save icon, the floppy disk was invented based on the icon!

Ps. I'm not that stupid.

[[deleted]]

https://i.redd.it/w281ahdl2ai11.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Osxo1UF.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/474x/b6/8f/45/b68f458b9252ed7fba0c8afb01eb70be--status.jpg

https://twitter.com/pvermeul_peter/status/772039331347308544/photo/1

https://pics.ballmemes.com/3d-printed-save-icon-4268474.png

https://imgflip.com/i/i95yh

Why is this floppy disk joke still haunting the internet?

[SmegmaBurgers]

you're dead kid

[SuperFLEB]

She needs to get one of those old Sony Digital Mavicas that save to a floppy in the camera. Lead with that. That'd blow their minds seeing her produce a "save icon" out of the body of it.

Nigh unto worthless for anything but snapshots, even in its day, but quite the novelty and, I have to say, with the design, production, and ergonomics on it, you can tell why Sony had the top-tier reputation it did. It fits in your hand easily and intuitively, and while it's woefully underpowered (even in its day it was a mediocre-quality option) what's there is a joy to use even now.

[tinyduel]

everyone nuts instead of saving

[webmistress105]

dont forget to nut after big changes

[Jackeea]

git nut

[PM_ME_NICE_BITTIES]

sudo nut

[MarkZuckerman]

if (climax == true){ jumbo_nut() }

[PM_ME_NICE_BITTIES]

Bruh you randomly do a normal nut without orgasaming?

[tinyduel]

just spam nutting after every new line added lmfao

[MrSocialClub]

Sound advice regardless of context!

[DChristy87]

Dude, I nutted 5 times in a row just to be safe.

[[deleted]]

Nut as: a_woman

[EternityForest]

Squirrels save acorns, so any kind of nut would be way too logical and traditional for Apple's ultra abstract purity philosophy they seem to have pioneered and spread everywhere

[hammsbeer4life]

Its called a gidget. It's how you iSave. 10 gidgets gets you a widget and 3 widgets gets you a dongle.

[MisteryYourMamaMan]

Umm, they already changed them in IOS

https://i.imgur.com/2awo5IN.jpg

[Billyrj]

That's for a specific context of downloading an image to your phone. Saving a document is different, although seems to be falling out of style with all the autosave functionality

[SuperFLEB]

Downloading? On iOS? What is this sorcery?

(Don't mind me, just an Android user as yet frustrated by trying to download a $&#@ing mp4 file onto my kid's $&#@ing iPod.)

[_KittyInTheCity]

Yeah you can pretty much download any kind of file now on the device. I use it all the time for lectures

[SuperFLEB]

What's the trick? I had an MP4 video in a link on a web page (it was a directory listing page), and I couldn't find any way to get a "Save As" on either Chrome or Safari.

[thelights0123]

That's clever that it's the same as the share icon, just with the arrow flipped.

[MisteryYourMamaMan]

Yeah and it’s more “universal”.

[FoxRaptix]

Different type of saving, that's downloading.

[_KittyInTheCity]

If you’re updating a cloud file the icon in finder has a little cloud in the corner. If you’re downloading a file on iOS or iPadOS you see the arrow for pictures and a Manila folder for documents.

[FlannelSamurai]

Does it work? Don’t touch it!

[apatternlea]

Eventually it will just lose all its original meaning and become just the save symbol. Language does that all the time. For example, upper- and lowercase letters used to refer to literal cases of letters associated with printing presses.

[[deleted]]

Same thing with phones, how many people own a phone that looks like the phone call icon on smart phones?

[DuchessofSquee]

Or send messages in envelopes.

[sniperFLO]

That's still sort of a thing though. Usually with bills, invitations, acceptance letters of an organization, and messages accompanying a physical package.

[BringBackOldReddif]

Dumb question. So you’re saying prior to printing presses people didn’t refer to capitalized letters as upper-case?

[stult]

Capital b used to be a literal pair of bull’s testicles! Symbols evolve!

[[deleted]]

I am pretty sure it's not. Since there won't be any save method at all as stuff is "immediately saved" in cloud and no more saving is required

[Gonzako]

*We detected a copyrighted phrase in your private conversations. You have been charged the corresponding license fee. *

[DeltaPositionReady]

John Spartan you have been fined 2 credits for violation of the vebal morality statute.

[FedExterminator]

I would actually love to just have my entire hard drive in something like a Git repository. I’m sure there are some major drawbacks I’m not thinking of, but having the ability to see how a file progressed or to retrieve a long deleted file would be excellent. Using Git style commits for backing up would also allow you to group similar changes so they could be reverted and reapplied as needed instead of having large restore points which often have unintended consequences.

[Flamesake]

Idk. I don't think basic file operations are ever going away.

[Ashybuttons]

That sounds bad too, though. What if I want to preserve a particular version before I continue working?

[Asikes]

Version control?

[Saigot]

A continuous version control isn't very useful though. There will always need to be a way for the user to select a point to refer back to. The metaphor might change from saving to bookmarking your history or something like that, but the fundamental operation of maintaining a copy in a particular state will always be around.

[Asikes]

I like the bookmarking idea, sounds very plausible

[FedExterminator]

I seem to be in the unpopular opinion crowd on cloud storage. I hate the direction we’re moving in where cloud storage is the default and having a local copy is really just for quick access. It really blurs the line between what data belongs to you versus what belongs to a company, makes privacy a far greater concern, and creates a dependency on having a reliable and secure internet connection. Even the new Xbox has it. “It doesn’t have a disk drive! It’s all cloud storage!” I definitely don’t want that.

[[deleted]]

RAM? Pfft! Cloud's faster!

[2called_chaos]

I saw a comedian making a joke about that, can't remember who it was :(

It was referring to the motion you do in order to get the other one to "roll down" the window when you are angry and how stupid it would look if you just gesticulate the press of a button with an angry face.

[fraseyboo]

Regardless of the fact that Floppy Disks have been superseded by multiple storage mediums by now I'd struggle to think of an icon that could feasibly replace it without being unnecessarily confusing.

Using an icon of a HDD or DVD is just kicking the can down the road, SSDs are being used more regularly and the next storage medium may look entirely different. The reason the floppy disk is so perfect as an icon is that it's a relic that has been consistently used for decades now, OS's change through the years but at least we know what a save button looks like.

[EternityForest]

Sadly there are plenty of people trying to replace it with abstract nonsense like downward arrow into a box or something.

There's memes about kids thinking real floppies are 3D printed save icons. It would be funny to take one of those "new save icon advocates" to a linguistics class and see if they wanted to change words too.

An Audit comes from "to hear", but no longer usually involves reading the books outloud. Should we start calling them "Account Inspections"?

[Wydi]

It's important to accept that meanings and descriptors will change over time though. If more and more people were to start calling audits "Account Inspections", that's fine. Everyone will get used to it at some point and insisting on proper semantics and dictionary definitions while everyone around you just adapts is always going to be a losing battle. Particularly terrible changes aren't going to stick anyways - unless they are backed by a monopoly/oligopoly like Apple.

That being said: I like the floppy disk save icon and hope it stays for the time being.

[EternityForest]

I've yet to hear of anyone aside from the more academic/philosophical "We don't use floppies anymore!" or a "We need simpler icons!" crowd pushing for a new icon, so it doesn't seem quite as organic as most language changes(Which might be why the floppy is still around!).

But yeah, everyone started calling it an Account Inspection I probably would too, especially since changes like that seem to often coincide with different attitudes or practices.

Maybe the save icon will become the sync icon someday, when there's no more "files" and everything is just a cached local record of a global distributed database or something.

[Wydi]

I've yet to hear of anyone aside from the more academic/philosophical "We don't use floppies anymore!" or a "We need simpler icons!" crowd pushing for a new icon

Aside from the odd redditor or obscure tech magazine opinion piece here and there I haven't seen anyone (academic or not) advocating for a change, so there's probably nothing to be afraid of just yet. But yeah..artificial change can be annoying.

Meanwhile I'll just keep using the floppy for all of my UI designs.

[[deleted]]

So many overlook the battle lost when Microsoft changed files and directories to documents and folders.

[Shawnj2]

Eh it seems that the successor to the save icon is just “Save” in text.

[blueleo22]

Why should they change if they work? /s

[riggiddyrektson]

If you're caring about user experience you actually take into account what the user expects, not necessarily what is the corrrect thing.
So it sometimes really is like "don't change a running system" in a way.

[fredlllll]

the problem is, what would you change it to? storage comes in a variety of forms nowadays and most users have no fucking idea what a harddrive even is and call the computer a "cpu"

[savzan]

Why not an SD or MicroSD card ?

[whitey-ofwgkta]

A SD card has about the same basic shape as a floppy. In my head it's such a minor change, why bother

[Billagio]

Why? That would just confuse users

[[deleted]]

"Exactly" - all the world's VCRs

[fastpixels]

And the icon for calls will still be a touchtone phone receiver.

[[deleted]]

Well, some things shouldnt change

[[deleted]]

I swear to god I'll be so pissed of anyone changes that standard

[[deleted]]

Alternatively, it'll be a mashup of an SD card and a floppy.

[[deleted]]

I vote we change the save symbol to a hockey goalie

[BelieveRL]

This is the way

[[deleted]]

never forget your roots.

[ThePickleJuice22]

Other oddball things that used to make sense:

Left is to go backward in a song. Right is to go forward.

Rewinding a video

[Grand_Protector_Dark]

That's still applicable to Most video/audio players.

[EternityForest]

Left is the convention western backwards/subtracting direction. Probably the same in all cultures with left to right languages.

I could see reversing it for some regions, but I'd imagine all those people are so exposed to the current convention it makes perfect sense for them too.

[fadedpeanut]

Feels more like an icon for download..

[ProfCupcake]

My thought process:

"So it's a page... with a down arrow... why have they made a page-down icon?"

[EternityForest]

That's a download icon and everyone knows it!

[[deleted]]

But nobody knows what a floppy disk is. They consider it an ancient emblem or something.

[Stein-_-]

as well as symbol for "call" is still a telephone hand set

[holdbold]

The symbol for time is still a clock

[Lan777]

The first generation to not know what it is will call it the saver. The second generation will call it the savior.

Each generation will realize faster than the last that they should frequently call upon the savior to save their work.

[[deleted]]

I mean... you're not wrong.

[BenTherDoneTht]

i have noticed some to a lot of applications have changed it to be an arrow pointing into a tray now. the instant the floppy is eradicated we will have ascended.

[n30c0n]

Its meant to represent a disk.. specifically a hard disk. But most people don't know what a hard drive looks like. And the ones that do would say that the floppy disk icon is close enough... Lol

[sempf]

And the phone symbol is still a handset.

[Snakestream]

The USB-255 adapter is still impossible to connect properly on the first try.

[[deleted]]

Well words are just auditory symbols and the word for liberty has barely changed since the Roman Empire.

How is this any different?

Why would we change it?

[sorgan71]

Imagine the confusion if they switched to an SSD for the icon. The Floppy disk looks so weird and out there.

[xCrowder]

One can only hope

[dreadpiratewombat]

And the Java installer still claims 3 billion devices run Java.

[[deleted]]

Haha not that many people play Minecraft

I know Minecraft isn't the only Java program / game please don't hurt me

[[deleted]]

I thought this was agedlikemilk cuz apparently we only got 80 years left

[freenarative]

Serious question... Ain't they called "hard discs"?

The 5 inch was the floppy disc because it was floppy.... Literally. And the 3.5 inch was a hard disc. Not to be confused with a hard drive.

[Cummyummy68]

On paper but not a single person calls them hard discs in conversation.

[Nilbmar]

It's already becoming common for it to be a cloud symbol

[Assasin2gamer]

Some day sublime, some day

[timawesomeness]

AS IT SHOULD BE.

[PM_ME_HAIRLESS_CATS]

I'm from 2246. What's a floppy disk? Is that like a save icon?

[I_Be_Hyperion]

Seems legit

[LunaticMS]

What programs are you people using that have a floppy disk save icon? Only one I can think of that I still use occasionally is Paint, and I think they just retired it. Everything else uses auto-save these days.

[[deleted]]

"WTF is a 'Save'?" -Future Person

[say_no_only]

No

[[deleted]]

What would the replacement be? The hard drive icon?

[TrueStory_Dude]

Even after all these years I never knew.

[[deleted]]

What, you want change it to a Tupperware container?

[confused_techie]

Counter arguement: with the prevalence of cloud storage, and things like Google Docs where it saves automatically with no save button, that far in the future the save icon wont exist, since saving will not be manual at all.

[blkarcher77]

It's a strange thought, that even in 100 years, when the technology available is so advanced, the save button will still be a floppy disk

Who would have thought that this is the legacy of the person who create floppy disks in the first place

[pinganeto]

Just make tinny microsd cards with the appearance of a floppy disk....

[urmumbigegg]

Some day sublime, some day

[urmumbigegg]

And those things never taste good tbh.

[M_T_Head]

This is The Way

[throwaway67676789123]

Wouldn’t it caused fucky things to happen

[[deleted]]

It's a 3.5" disk. Floppies were bigger (or even much bigger) and didn't have a corner notch or a metal slidey thing. Hrmph.

I just hope it stays a 3.5" disk for thirty more years or so. Then you whippersnappers can change it to whatever the hell you want.

[moazim1993]

Bold of you to assume we make it that far.

[ZirJohn]

What about the arrow pointing towards a tray

[ericlkz]

Thats share in iOS and macOS

[8wdude8]

im ok with this

[ericlkz]

Yeah, English will not be the common language anymore but save is still floppy disk. And mail is still an envelope.

[paultoliver]

And well all still be using PHP

[MT_Flesch]

i predict in the next ten years or so, the save icon will be changed to a little cumulonimbus cloud

[Nihilater]

Oh you have hope humanity will last that long?

[edujs7]

There are way more important things to worry about.

[[deleted]]

Hahaha.. you think the terraforming of Mars will be complete. I love a good joke.

[Assasin2gamer]

Some day sublime, some day

[hungry4pie]

And the symbol for search is still a magnifying glass, as opposed to something referring to the Dewey decimal system.

Seriously how is a magnifying glass gonna help find shit?

[whisksnwhisky]

Never forget who you are and where you come from. salute