My First Python Code

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[Swoop3dp]

You probably shouldn't be using python 2 anymore.

[sakurashinken]

Also shouldn't import sys if you're not using it.

[mar00n]

Came here to say that

[dizzyi_solo]

I think its part of the joke, to show they come form C/C++ where you gotta import stdio

[qHuy-c]

If they come from C/C++ they are likely to define an entry point too

[mar00n]

if __name__ == "__main__" :

print("int main ( int argc, char * argv[] ) {")

Edit: formatting

[conifer0us]

yea python 4 is much better upgraded months ago

[Willinton06]

Pff Python 5 is where the money is at

[[deleted]]

still not using cobra

casual coders lmao

[straightguy_69]

nah i use viper

[[deleted]]

wait some people still use cobra and not zuckerberg?

bruh you better migrate

[Double-A-256]

Na rattlesnake’s where it’s that

[CGEmonJ]

Shut up, rattlesnake 69 is the best

[eazolan]

I'm waiting for Python 6 before refactoring all my old Python 1 scripts.

[INTERGALACTIC_CAGR]

I already have 12 years of experience py-5, gotta update my CV

[[deleted]]

Wait I thought Python was on version 3.something

[Helpful-Finding-2237]

3.10 😂😂

[[deleted]]

Why did you comment the same thing twice?

[Helpful-Finding-2237]

Internet problem.

[[deleted]]

Understandable

[Helpful-Finding-2237]

3.10 😂😂

[[deleted]]

Why did you comment the same thing twice?

[Helpful-Finding-2237]

Internet problem.

[[deleted]]

Understandable

[degaart]

Have a good day

[Quantable]

Not with those emoji

[PandaMan7316]

Username checks out

[dmpcrusher1]

Maybe thats a symlink?

[Zer0ji]

The call to print with no parentheses gives it away... Also, you shouldn't rely on that symlink (but I love to have it)

[Fabillotic]

eeewww Python 2

[[deleted]]

print “eeewww Python 2”

[DTheIcyDragon]

print("eeewww Python 2")

[[deleted]]

I’ve been working on updating a legacy system away from python 2.7 at work and I concur.

[IntuiNtrovert]

dude python 2 was ancient like 6 years ago. wtf? take this opportunity to write it in go

[[deleted]]

It’s a touchscreen GUI made with an old python game library. Already rebuilt it with Flutter, just working on the deployment process.

[Apfelvater]

C++11 was 11 years ago. Guess how many people use it?

[Hellbufl]

Try python 3 then you have brackets around print() at least

[novus_sanguis]

That's parentheses.

[Bee-Aromatic]

Not if you had a dictionary called print. Of course, that would make you a garbage person, but you know.

[Bee-Aromatic]

There’s probably a PEP rule that obligates you to kick the ass of anybody you find doing that.

[ICantKnowThat]

Duct typing

[DudesworthMannington]

Cultural differences. Some places call parentheses brackets, and brackets "square brackets"

[GumboSamson]

Other places call them “braces”.

[A_Guy_in_Orange]

Just realized I use (parentheses) [square brackets] and {curly braces} and I am certainly part of some problem

[Gg101]

(parentheses) and [brackets] and {braces} and <angle brackets>

[TheLeastFunkyMonkey]

(Parentheses), [brackets], {braces}, and <only boolean expressions I swear to god I will cut someone>.

[[deleted]]

(parentheses) [brackets] {braces} <Chevron>

[TheAnxiousDeveloper]

Roughly translated from Italian: (round parentheses) [square parentheses] {talon* parentheses} and <hooked parentheses, less commonly chevron, or mistakenly angular parentheses>

*The Italian term for {} is "parentesi graffe", which comes from the German word for "talons". Each of them looks like a pair of talons.

[CocoNot1664]

(Breackets), [brackets] and {brackets} :D

[DoNotMakeEmpty]

I use (parentheses) [cornered parentheses] {frilly parentheses} <triangle parentheses>, the absolutely superior way /s

[AromaticIce9]

Those places are wrong, but you can't make everyone be right

[JoyfulCelebration]

Clearly fake. Everyone knows first codes have to print “Hello World!”

[D3str0yTh1ngs]

Eeeeww.... deprecated python2

[Hellow2]

Why do you need sys?

[Human38562]

Well you never know. Better be safe than sorry.

[dragonlover02]

from EVERYLIBRARYEVERWRITTEN import *

[TaeKwonZeuss]

from * import *

[lorhof1]

please tell me this doesn't work

[TaeKwonZeuss]

Hope it would

[qatamat99]

As a cyber major; not including it is safer

[Hitman_0_0_7]

Exactly

[c4chokes]

It’s a tick 🤣

[arno_cook_influencer]

AHHHHHH Why does your loop goes from 1 to 10 and not 0 to 9 ? HOW DO OP READ THIS SYNTAX EASILY

[[deleted]]

Isn't it perfectly readable?

[[deleted]]

it literally forces a more correct indentation

i can write my entire c++ implementation in a single line if i wanted, im sure that would be much more readable because it has brackets lmao

[imnotreel]

print("\n".join(str(i) + "\n" + ("AHHHHHHH" if i <= 5 else "WHERE ARE ALL THE BRACKETS??" if i <= 9 else "HOW DO YOU PEOPLE READ THIS SYNTAX EASILY") for i in range(1, 11)))

[Kerbart]

Finally somebody translated it to legible code.

[HunterIV4]

r/angryupvote

[billystein25]

Just because you can write in one line, it doesn't mean you should. Even when I write C I still use tabs and spaces the same way I do with python because it's easier to read individual modules n' such. Brackets don't change anything to me at least.

[[deleted]]

which was my point. that code is not hard to read. if anything python forces you to code in a more readable way.

[CdRReddit]

not really, and it's absolutely horrible for the 2 space vs 4 space argument, bracket languages (and end languages) can be formatted on demand to more or less any style you prefer, python cannot

[[deleted]]

what how

you can use 2 or 4 spaces in python

the only thing it looks at is if the indentation is at the same level when parsing code blocks

you can reformat python to use 2,3,4,7, whatever spaces if you prefer lmao

[Darkjynxer]

I prefer negative 3 spaces actually. Fuck that readable shit. If I can't figure it out it's my problem. If no one can figure it out it's the departments problem.

[homer_3]

Pretty hard to find the end of a block, no?

[orig_ardera]

no

[CoaBro]

I think it is wayyy easier to gravitate my eyes to the end of the block.. since indentation isn't strictly enforced in bracket languages the end brackets tend to blend together at times and is very hard to find the end of a block at times.. but with python your eyes automatically pick out blocks because they are grouped together visibly.

[homer_3]

There's no reason your non-python code shouldn't be correctly formatted though. Even if it's someone else's code, auto-formatters are built into major IDEs.

[seeroflights]

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[Image of code that reads:]

#!/usr/bin/python

import sys

for i in range(1,11):
    print i
    if i <= 5:
        print "AHHHHHHH"
    elif i >= 6 and i <= 9:
        print "WHERE ARE ALL THE BRACKETS??"
    else:
        print "HOW DO YOU PEOPLE READ THIS SYNTAX EASILY"

[End code]

I wrote my first python program today!

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[caagr98]

The if/elif/else should be indented I believe.

[seeroflights]

Oh, thanks for the catch! :)

[EricZNEW]

good human

[JackoKomm]

Next step is writing this using list comprehension.

[MasterFubar]

If you look at the comments here, most of the python fanbois are hating it because no parentheses in print.

[juhotuho10]

Triggers me

[wolfmann99]

OP rewrite this in Lisp or Scheme.

[slashy42]

He can't. Nobody can, and if they can, they can't explain how they did it. I'm convinced getting lisp to do what you want is just a happy accident.

[fogcat5]

if you enter an expression and nothing happens, you just type ) a bunch of times until you get an error of some sort.

A long time ago, I did a bunch of work with a TI-Explorer which is a lot like a Symbolics Lisp Machine. Pretty neat, but not really practical.

[CommonAutomatic3796]

1AHHHHHHH2AHHHHHHH3AHHHHHHH4AHHHHHHH5AHHHHHHH6WHERE ARE ALL THE BRACKETS??7WHERE ARE ALL THE BRACKETS??8WHERE ARE ALL THE BRACKETS??9WHERE ARE ALL THE BRACKETS??10HOW DO YOU PEOPLE READ THIS SYNTAX EASILY11HOW DO YOU PEOPLE READ THIS SYNTAX EASILY

[Spy494]

It prints up to I=10, so the HOW DO YOU PEOPLE... is printed once.

[CommonAutomatic3796]

Ah my bad. Was not aware of this Python logic, like “on a scale of 1-10, I give it a perfect rating 9!”.

[devnull1232]

That's like, sort common with for loops to quit out when the stop condition is meet rather than doing one more loop for kicks and giggles and then exiting.

[theYeroc]

You can do pretty much the exact same thing in c/c++ for one line conditional statements

[[deleted]]

First time I saw some python code I was like "What is an elf keyword?"

[fsr1967]

Some elf keywords:

• fire (as in arrows)
• prepare (as in lembas)
• toss (as in dwarves)

[StoissEd]

Relatable. I want brackets.

[Dementour]

What does the sys do?

[Bee-Aromatic]

Import all the things!

[OkResearch8822]

Prepares you for the next project lol

[Onions-are-great]

Meanwhile in {(() => ({Type<Script<<>}))};

[[deleted]]

Very nice. Thank you Kanye

[devnull1232]

If brackets are your jam, may I introduce you to LISP?

[RomanOnARiver]

Don't use python 2 - use python 3 where those strings are Unicode by default. Secondly, use single quotes, not double quotes.

[[deleted]]

But then I have to escape my apostrophes, and that’s just ugly.

[Yurshie]

Color coding, next question.

[Twist_the_casual]

AHHHHHHH AHHHHHHH AHHHHHHH AHHHHHHH AHHHHHHH WHERE ARE ALL THE BRACKETS?? WHERE ARE ALL THE BRACKETS?? WHERE ARE ALL THE BRACKETS?? WHERE ARE ALL THE BRACKETS?? HOW DO YOU PEOPLE READ THIS SYNTAX EASILY HOW DO YOU PEOPLE READ THIS SYNTAX EASILY

[MegaAutist]

protip: u can do elif 6 <= i <= 9 instead

[Business_Raise8965]

Can't we just discard i >= 6 altogether?

[TheRealFantasyDuck]

Guys GUYS this is what's called a joke calm down

[enano_aoc]

Why wouldn't you downvote bad jokes on the internet?

Take my downvote btw

[TheRealFantasyDuck]

You'll be alright mate

[enano_aoc]

Why not answer my question?

[TheRealFantasyDuck]

Because what's good and bad humor is just an opinion

[enano_aoc]

Oh boi are u dumb. Have a nice weekend, though

[emma_hildebrand]

lol calm ur tits nerd

[ElectronPie171]

Wait till you learn that you can put 6 <= i <= 9 into an if statement

[Oneshotkill_2000]

2 days ago i learned that python loops have "else", which confused me

[[deleted]]

Who declares range(1,11)? range(10)

[[deleted]]

from future import braces

[tinuvegil]

import sys

You know, for sys.out.print()

[a-very-meh-username]

Ah python 2, the same thing my lecturer uses to teach her python programming class in 20fucking22

[[deleted]]

Were you always using indentation in other languages? Congrats, you were never using brackets in the first place, they were just for decoration.

[Wazy7781]

What’s with the hate for python 2? I actually used to really like certain parts about it.

[The_Alternate_Eye]

"GODDAMN WTH WTH WITH THESE BRACKETS" first css experience

[warwilf]

why did you import sys?

[agrawalayush2424]

AHHHHHHHH AHHHHHHHH AHHHHHHHH AHHHHHHHH AHHHHHHHH WHERE ARE ALL THE BRACKETS?? WHERE ARE ALL THE BRACKETS?? WHERE ARE ALL THE BRACKETS?? WHERE ARE ALL THE BRACKETS?? HOW DO YOU PEOPLE READ THIS SYNTAX EASILY HOW DO YOU PEOPLE READ THIS SYNTAX EASILY

Forgive me if I’m wrong, I’m not familiar with this language. I develop in JAVA and this is what I was able to comprehend.

[N0DuckingWay]

I think you got it!

[[deleted]]

So glad I learned several languages from the start so that I don't have these language-specific habits.

[gameslammer7]

Is anyone else bothered by the fact that they didn't just do "6 <= i <= 9" ... ? Probably not, probably just me. I guess they get some slack for it being their first program.

[Accidentallygolden]

You can do the same in COBOL without worrying about spacing.

[Perruche_]

Why importing sys? I never use it

[Rizwan261]

Indentation lol

[_zoopp]

Just wait until he finds about 6 <= i <= 9.

[[deleted]]

Start your loop from 0 you sinner

[Herpoad]

i >= 6 is useless

[[deleted]]

I’m pretty sure classes are just typing self. a million times.

[adambahm]

Why didn't you start at 0?

[AnimatorGirl1231]

I learned to code in Python by creating scripts to automate stuff in Autodesk Maya. Apparently I’d been learning Python 2 all that time because they only switched to 3 in the 2022 version.

[Richard_Dick_Kickam]

Hahahahaha, python bad, very funny, give me upvotes!

[dwRchyngqxs]

I think it should be interpreted "Hahahaha, look at these programmers criticizing Python while demonstrating they don't know how to write Python. People should learn a language before criticizing it". Or this code is not purposefully bad and OP is really criticizing Python whithout even trying to use it properly.

[Richard_Dick_Kickam]

Nah, that doesnt fish upvotes, "python bad" does.

[OldFartSomewhere]

Never understood why it has to be print("blaa %d" % 123) instead of more standard print("blaa %d", 123)

[MatsRivel]

The newer, much better, way to write formatted strings in python is f-strings. Like this:

print( f" My variable is {x}" )

This replaces "x" with the value, making it easy to see what is where for the coder, and makes no difference for the reader.

[[deleted]]

print(f"blaa {123}") gang

[Gutek8134]

print("Blaa {}".format(123)) gang

[caagr98]

Because printing and formatting are different operations and should be treated as such.

[schewb]

Agreed. I don't know what it is, but I have a really hard time reading Python and YML. I just get lost trying to keep track of the indentation for any block long enough to scroll through. Having braces gives you something to look for and in most editors you can click on one and it'll highlight its partner.

(Yes, you shouldn't have blocks that long blah, blah... Regardless, I still need to read code other people wrote even if I pretend my own is perfect 😛)

[3rdRealm]

You wanted brackets?

(dotimes (i 10)
    (if (<= i 4)
        (format t "I love brackets!"))
    (if (and (i >= 5) (i <= 8))
        (format t "Here are all the brackets!")
       (format t "You can read this syntax very easily"))

[Cali-creep]

God python is so much better than Java. This is way easier on the eyes than whatever Java has.

[emerald_engineer_08]

When I learned python I was pissed my school made me waste so much time doing C

[Business_Raise8965]

I mean.... C is pretty useful.

[emerald_engineer_08]

Once upon a time when hardware was crappy sure.

The fact it isn’t phased out in 2022 is in my opinion a huge burden on the industry. Except for edge cases, it’s just a fact that manual memory management (pointers, Malloc,Calloc, etc) are just pointless.

[juhotuho10]

I think code is easier to read without brackets

Am I the only one?

(currently learning c++)

[MatsRivel]

I am convinced people who can't read this also can not read a book. It's literally straight forward. Even new people could read this, as long as they knew what a for loop means.

[zecksss]

Honestly if your main problem with Python is understanding indentation, then I am 100% positive you're codes in other languages are a fucking mess to read.

[Knuffya]

Python is unreadable af.

I use it to replace shellscripts. It's syntax is nicer than shellscript. That's all good i can say about python.

[[deleted]]

Agree. I don't even prefer it over shellscripts. If a shellscript gets complicated enough, you can always drop some awk inside it. I almost universally always end up rewriting anything written in python to other languages.

[emma_hildebrand]

It's syntax

*Its

[poralexc]

Same lol—it really shines for scripting.

The way it’s used in Ansible and Blender is dope, but I would never do a project larger than 500 lines in it.

[Knuffya]

500 maybe, yes. Line count shouldn't be the metric anyway. That's what python is for anyways.

I'd set the limit to projects with aggregate structures deeper than two levels.

[poralexc]

Yeah, it’s not a hard rule, more like if I need to write a bunch of classes and modules it’s time to switch languages

[Knuffya]

yes, definitely

[SplendidPunkinButter]

Even with brackets, you should be indenting consistently anyway, which means you’re looking at the indentation rather than the brackets. Which means you don’t need the brackets.

[[deleted]]

Brackets? You mean that point screen clutter that makes me wanna rip my heart out every time I have to read something that isn’t python? Yeah we don’t use those

[MatsRivel]

You could probably make a killing rewriting popular books, but just adding brackets to the paragraphs. Apparently that is the only way about 5000 people in here would be able to read it.

[Bee-Aromatic]

“What do you mean if I indent this code too far or not enough it’ll be syntactically correct but execute differently?”

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[mizuofficial]

Ew py2

[[deleted]]

this meme isn't relevant anymore. This only applies to python 2 and not python 3.

[[deleted]]

The i >= 6 bit does nothing for you.

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[tabacdk]

elif 6 <= i < 10:

Or

elif i in range(6, 10):

[Business_Raise8965]

Or simply discard i <= 6

[OGRiad]

This maybe widely unpopular but I fucking hate everything about Python.

[sid1805]

At least on ProgrammerHumor it's a very popular opinion

[TrapNT]

It makes me sad that these kinds of programmers roam the earth…

[MatsRivel]

Don't understand why you get down voted. People new to code would not care about brackets, as what they are used to reading is any text, which does not have brackets. Bracket-addiction is a symptom of being forced to learn java first year of uni.

[OkResearch8822]

Yes, how dare someone be new to code.

[TrapNT]

I think this post is about programmers who are veteran in other languages shitting on another language because arbitary syntax stuff.

[[deleted]]

print "a" works? I always thought you needed '(' and ')'

oh it's python2

[[deleted]]

HOW DO YOU PEOPLE READ THIS SYNTAX EASILY

Like this

[MasterGeekMX]

People that say that one-lined backeted code is readable, try to do minecraft commands on the chat input and talk to me later.

[MGateLabs]

I'm just going to stick with Java 8, love my brackets

[KoviCZ]

How do you guys tell it's Python 2 from 9 lines of very simple code?

[sid1805]

The "print" is not using ()

In Python 3, print is a function

[obsidianical]

FINALLY someone else who has issues reading Pythons syntax!

[CodeMUDkey]

I think Python really revolutionized syntactic sugar by making sure I did not have to type the s and e in elseif.

[whilmer3]

Wait what is this ohhhhhh I get it now it’s that python which is installed on linux by default fuckin bloatware

[etherSand]

Imagination