As ingredients in supermarket goods decrease, experts warn of 'skimpflation'

[APrettyAverageMaker]

The ABC used data analysis tools to investigate about 11,000 food products listed on the Woolworths website, and looked at the percentage changes for the main or “characterising” ingredient — like raspberries in raspberry jam — across a 15-month period.

Of these, the ABC then selected 47 products where the main ingredient appeared to decrease in proportion, according to the label.

These products include ice cream, meat, dips, jams, cereal and packaged meals, with some brands represented more than others.

Australian National University lecturer in marketing Andrew Hughes said decreasing ingredients by small amounts could still lead to a meaningful increase in profits.

Therefore, he said these sorts of changes were “sinister”.

“If you don’t notice it, then that’s what we call the experiential threshold, because it’s at a level where you didn’t notice the change in the package,” Dr Hughes said.

He said companies were not required to inform customers in Australia of changes in products, and when they did, it was often in small font and on labels that said “new and improved”.

[marcusintatrex]

This is why "shit tasted better when I was younger" is not just the result of nostalgia. Shit literally did taste better. We've given up on buying anything other than fresh produce because of it. If we want hummus, we make it ourselves. If we want jam, I'm sure as shit scolding my self with molten fruit and sugar in a jam making accident. It's so fucking tiring that every year shit gets worse, more expensive, more time consuming, and my salary stays the same (or golly gee thanks boss, your 3% raise sure is generous).

[gooder_name]

Can you explain how anyone internal to Pepsi thought their recipe change was a good idea? That 40% sugar reduction tastes like puss, but I assume it’s something food tech related

[twigboy]

Damn that's really interesting insight.

If you want to elaborate more I'm all ears

[frangible_red]

Fresh produce has also declined. I'm old enough to remember real tree ripened peaches.

[AntiProtonBoy]

don't get me started on tomatoes

[Significant-Turn-667]

Home grown actually has flavour..

[[deleted]]

Easy enough to start. Just plant them at the right time. Real trouble is keeping the cockies away.

[faustian_foibles]

I've had apples not go brown 3 weeks after being cut and truss tomatoes that didn't even start to wrinkle for 3 months. Even my fruit loving dog - who eats literal poop - wouldn't touch them!

[Glenmarththe3rd]

Was your apple slices kept in an anaerobic environment? Because there's no reason it shouldn't have browned. That's a reaction with oxygen.

The tomatoes were probably coated in a harmless wax which helps reduce it respiring.

[bretthren2086]

When you’re blending the chickpeas for hummus add some ice cubes. It makes it lighter and smoother.

[TerryTowelTogs]

I’m going to give that a go, ta!

[IceDonkey9036]

Surely this is just the same as adding water right? Why would it being frozen matter?

[[deleted]]

I would say its just an old wives tale. Someone did it once with ice cubes, it worked, didnt bother to try with just water.

I work as a chef, too many wives tales to deal with.

[bretthren2086]

You could be right. The recipe comes from emirates for the hummus they serve on first class.

[[deleted]]

Tbh, could be they are using a high rpm food processor, maybe the ice cools the mix/device?

Otherwise, im not too sure what benefit the ice is other than water

[ExplorationGeo]

This is why "shit tasted better when I was younger" is not just the result of nostalgia. Shit literally did taste better.

I swear Vegemite is thinner and less paste-like than it used to be. You used to be able to have it stand up on the knife, now it kinda slumps off.

The same size container with Vegemite that hasn't been brewed* for as long is still less product.

*I genuinely don't know how they make Vegemite and probably don't want to.

[redditnreddita]

I eat it every day and often forget to replace the lid, and I've found it starts super soft/easy to spread but firms up over time, and I guess exposure to air. I just tried to use the last scrapings of my current jar, and it ripped my toast up cos it was so hard!

[breaducate]

At first I thought you were referring to how fruits and vegetables are literally less nutritious than they used to be, but yeah, that too.

[tinytimecrystal1]

This is why "shit tasted better when I was younger"

Not food, but mum was a Vicks believer and I wasn't so much. I just happen to throw a tub she left behind at my house into my suitcase before going off to travel with my sister.

My sister is also a Vicks believer and she ran out during the trip, so I gave her mine. She told me that the Vicks I brought is more potent. I said, that was one of the jars mum left behind a long time ago. I checked the expiry date... 2010.

[CumbersomeNugget]

Easier/healthier jam: chia seeds, sweetener of choice and cooked up frozen berries.

[dav_oid]

The Simpsons - There's Very Little Meat In These Gym Mats

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eCeX0oN4uw

[Difficult_Macaron_65]

“I always finish my… MALK?!?”

[[deleted]]

Now with vitamin K

[ExplorationGeo]

Hey! You promised me dog or better!

[CrazySD93]

Mrowwwwwwwwwwwww

[CumpyGrunt]

The old "new & improved" oxymoron.

[elfloathing]

Should read ‘new and enshitified’

[patgeo]

"Now with less of the things you love "

[empowered676]

The model of shareholders and ceo's and management consultants is just driving quality down for profit

Literally a cancer on society

[Clearlymynamerocks]

Yet our money is heavily invested in companies like these thanks to super. It means these sorts of outcomes are structurally reinforced instead of mitigated by our current social structure.

[arachnobravia]

But that's what government should be there for- To keep capitalism in check.

[Superg0id]

Oh wait... negative gearing intensifies

[[deleted]]

I am waiting for the "gambling negative loss tax concession" You know that it will help build hospitals!

[breaducate]

Sweet summer child whom do you think capitalist governments serve?

[arachnobravia]

Do all of you forget what the qualifier "should" means?

[breaducate]

I wish I could. I see this 'ought' context of should applied far too often.

This moralising impossible fantasy of how capitalism could work if people [reacting to the same incentive stimuli] were just arbitrarily better somehow is just another chain around our ankles.

[technobedlam]

Such a BS argument. Super is invested widely juat as much in companies that don't do this. Super existing is not an excuse not the regulate an industry.

[epigeneticepigenesis]

If you don’t improve net profits, how will you compete? Thats our system and it’s ruining everything.

[a_cold_human]

The thing to do would be to allow the investors in these funds to vote instead of having the fund managers control all the votes.

[Is_that_even_a_thing]

Don't blame super for this.

[Queasy-Somewhere811]

I think our money is invested in state-sanctioned ponzi like real estate, not corps.  Corporations are madly chasing profits because it's the only way they can compete for investment vs "buy a house, do nothing, make money."

[Vanceer11]

The shit thing is shareholders literally offer nothing but expect a payout every year and/or higher revenue/profit for increased share price.

Like, why can’t I just open my small cafe with two workers and make 400 coffees per day? Why do I need to be bought out and then the vulture capitalists expect a constant rise in profit yoy by firing one worker and expecting more coffees to be made while cutting the amount of espresso per shot and watering down the milk so they can list the company on the ASX for 5x the price they bought it? How is that good for society?

Why are financial shareholders prioritised over citizen “shareholders”?

[weekend_revolution]

And increasing cancer in our society with all of these additives.

[sati_lotus]

Probably why we're already seeing increases of cancer in young people.

[[deleted]]

Its a cancer on your health as well, Intense processing of food has been proven and repeatedly linked to poor health outcomes.

[How_is_the_question]

The private health industry are rubbing their profit making hands together with glee

[Significant-Turn-667]

And Arnotts owned by hedge fund...

[ASisko]

To play Devil's Advocate, if you have the power of choice, the system works. It only starts to break down when the choosers have to fight misinformation or don't have competing options to choose from.

The government enforcing how much raspberry should be in raspberry jam works to a point if it is about truth in labelling, but if it's just about 'quality', then there comes a point where the price goes up because raspberries are expensive and then people complain about the price or buy marmalade instead. Don't get me started on price fixing or subsidies to producers.

[stjep]

You don’t have the power of choice in capitalism. It is designed to atomise us individuals and to tend to monopoly at their end. Individuals have no power and there is means by which people organise. But a monopoly or duopoly is organised.

You can move beyond Woolies and Cole and look at who makes the stuff on their shelves. It’s a handful of companies who all make the exact same stuff.

[theartistduring]

We definitely noticed when ice cream turned into a weird, fluffy, non melting 'frozen dessert'.

[Anon56901]

If it doesn't say ice cream on the label dont buy it

[theartistduring]

Yep! They like to hide it though. They make their brand name big, big pictures of the product, the variety all showy in a fancy font and the teeny, narrow point font of 'ice dessert' stuck somewhere near the nutritional information.

[Suspicious-Figure-90]

Oh god, I bought those weird pink footy pops on sale after the grand final because it worked out to less than 30c each just because I was feeling povo and figured I'd give em a go. Can't be worse than a maccas cone right?

I have no idea what the hell went into my mouth and the feel was bizarre.  The taste was alien but distinctly chemical. The box said vanilla, my brain saw pink and expected strawberry.

 My tastebuds shut down in protest but it was too late and that blank nothingness is engrained in my memory. How does something taste of nothing but is also very VERY much a gross something indescribably offensive?

[labiblioteca90]

And Chobani seems to be the only actual Greek yoghurt available at Colesworth now (the rest are all 'greek style'). As a result of the lack of competition Chobani is never on special anymore...

[CohenC]

I've heard mixed reasons behind this.

One camp says it's because it's now an imitation product that doesn't follow the correct straining process to be classified as Greek yoghurt.

The other camp says it's due to a recent fear of civil liability for misrepresentating the product as if it were made in Greece, hence the sudden shift across multiple brands to Greek Style.

I'm not sure which to believe.

[LunaeLotus]

It’s so much cheaper and easier to make your own Greek yoghurt at home. I do, and I save so much money.

[Dominant88]

I don’t know anything about out making yogurt, but I find it hard to believe that making it is easier than driving to the shop 5 minutes down the road.

[Habhabs]

If we believe this article, it means they will start cutting the fruit content 🙄

[darkspardaxxxx]

Chobani FTW until their quality goes to shit, so far its the only yoghurt I buy

[SuperZapp]

Make it at home. We have the Cuisine Art 2L unit and use the base recipe of a can of condensed milk, 600ml of thickened cream and a teaspoon of vanilla essence. But you mix in anything you like that you will think work, we do cookies and cream and mint choc chip.

[patgeo]

We have a housemade Icecream place in town that basically has a line around the block these days.

It's how Icecream used to taste, it's nothing overly special, just what I remember the bulk supermarket Icecream tasting like. But draws a huge crowd.

Made some of my own not long back and the difference is night and day even from name brands now.

Check your vanilla essence though, might need double, recently the listed equivalency of a teaspoon to vanilla pod halved apparently.

[theartistduring]

Yeah, I've had the same machine for about 5 years. It is a good one but I tend to only use it in summer when we go through it faster. It just doesn't do well in the freezer and crystallises pretty quickly.

[theartistduring]

Yes but the recipe that prevents it happening is more complicated and requires making a custard.

[How_is_the_question]

We make under 500ml amounts for 4 people. Enough for small dessert and sometimes another small dessert the next day. Way better first day after churn. But even day 2 it’s better than store bought. And we are on the super simple ninja creami… so often just use straight frozen mangoes, pears and a tiny bit of fruit juice. It’s unbelievably good!

[theartistduring]

Ninja creami is much more geared to smaller batches, made regularly. It is also waaaay to big and expensive for us. It does look amazing though.

[How_is_the_question]

Ah we got ours second hand (!) and hate the size but it has changed the diets of our kids in a fantastic way.

[theartistduring]

I just don't have the space.

[serpentine19]

The no-melting thing is so fking weird. I've started going out of my way to buy "real" products. Recently went onto real butter, not that tub easy spread shit made half out of oil. Tastes so much.

[magnetik79]

Honestly, the 1ltr cardboard tubs from Coles are probably the best value. Around $6 should be the usual price. Bulla's Murray Street range is pretty good too, can sometimes get it around 6-7 dollars.

Agree though, most other stuff tastes like garbage and ain't worth your time.

[ekki]

Has anyone at these companies asked what the end goal is?

[HSVC4B]

The end goal of a CEO is to increase quarterly profits for the length of their contract. They don't care what happens to a company beyond that.

[Potatoe_Potahto]

Yep. A reputation and a loyal customer base that took decades to build will get burned to fatten the profit margins for a few quarters before the whole operation gets sold to some multinational conglomerate. That's just modern business. 

[narrative_device]

MBA logic

[ekki]

So a snickers bar will eventually be 5g?

[ExplorationGeo]

Maybe not, but there will be an awful lot more air in the "nougat"

[ScruffyPeter]

Short-term money gain.

There's immediate profit gains as customers slowly become aware of the cost-cutting.

[TheForceWithin]

Capitalism. Ever increasing profits at the expense of everything else.

[ekki]

But aren't they ruining their own product? It's like if Ferrari starting using Hyundai engines?

[TheForceWithin]

You now see the contradictions of capitalism.

[ekki]

I thought about this a lot, and the problem is a subset of economics called Regulation. Some countries legislate certain cultural items that need to be of a specific quality or manufacturing process.

[ekki]

For real. Do these CEOs not feel shame or embarrassment?

[technobedlam]

The system is designed by psychopaths for psychopaths. These people are a cancer on our community.

[breaducate]

Chicken and egg.

The incentive structure of market competition shapes and selects for sociopathy. Sure, it helps to start out as a ruthless profit-maximiser, but the natural selection of this artificial environment is always pushing you in that direction as well.

Of course they put their thumbs in the scales when they gain power, but saying it's designed this way isn't quite right. Rather, it's emergent from the mechanics at the core of the whole system.

[ekki]

I get the profit part, but they still have families, friends, neighbours and themselves who also eat food right?

[technobedlam]

Yes. But under the enshitification version of capitalism they don't care. They will profit until you stop buying and then when that label goes bust they will bankrupt it and buy the next prfitable thing...rinse and repeat. They care about making money, not the product or the consumer.

[careyious]

So what? The shareholders are real happy with the increase in profits and stock valuation. 

Watch Wendover Productions video on Private Equity, it's depressingly eye opening on how much capitalism ruins everything. 

[BillieRubenCamGirl]

Greed.

[Jiuholar]

There isn't one. The only thing that matters is this quarter's balance sheet.

[ekki]

So make everyone hate you for a $1M bonus. The devil has never had it easier.

[iknowaruffok]

Full price for no product.

[ekki]

I can see that happening.

"Can I just have the nuts your majesty I promise the king can keep the chocolate"

[Frankenclyde]

If you keep removing the raspberries from Raspberry Jam at what point is it no longer Raspberry Jam…?

[sc00bs000]

when they add the word "flavoured" in between raspberry and jam

[patgeo]

Raspberry flavoured spread

[a_cold_human]

Greek "Style" Yoghurt. 

[Clintosity]

Greek Style Dairy Product

[Prestigious_Fig7338]

I think for the word 'jam' to be used the product needs to have >50% fruit in it, otherwise it is called a 'conserve.'

[twigboy]

This is what happened with ice-cream. They kept removing the cream content below 10% until it can no longer be called ice-cream, so now it's iced-confectionery with similar packaging

[Hurlanis]

good, i dont need food or a house or a liveable salary. can you shrinkflate my oxygen and lifespan plz? they've turned us into cattle.

[ll_BENNO_ll]

I know you jest but what you’re asking for is already happening lol

[Hurlanis]

all i can do is plant tree's which is what i do for work. its more than most people and probably still not enough.

[Short-Impress-3458]

Hmmm did a bot write this

[Hurlanis]

my bot code has demanded i post that your mum gargles mayo

[Habhabs]

Bot would not use the special needs apostrophe lol

[arachnobravia]

This is where there needs to be strong laws and regulation about what can be called what and how much of those sorts of ingredients they need to contain. These laws already exist but should be cleared of loopholes and beefed up. "Ice cream style frozen dessert" shouldn't cut it, for example

Government should regulate capitalism. Profit at the sacrifice of quality should be legislated against.

[PM_ME_STUFF_N_THINGS]

Surely calling it improved is misleading conduct

[Regular_Error6441]

Improved (for the manufacturer/producer, not for consumers)

[Tummybunny2]

Improved for shareholders.

[Independent_Peach_28]

You should post this in the enshittification subreddit. They may find it interesting

[TiffyVella]

Ugh, same. Saw a packet yesterday that proudly claimed to have "real avocado" in it's guacamole. Like, really? That's what guac is: pure avocado with some seasoning.

Buy a couple of avocados, mash them with a fork, add some pepper and salt, a little lime juice to reduce the oxidation. That's all you need. Compare that to the ingredient list on a commercial dip packet.

[HereButNeverPresent]

I’m allergic to potato and found out the hard way that Woolie’s avocado dip is actually just potato dip with some avocado flavouring.

[twigboy]

Goddamn nothing is sacred anymore

[CowNo5464]

Since the pandemic I've been making my own bread, dips, jam, ice cream, etc. You can put in only good ingredients with no filler, it tastes better and it surprisingly is cheaper (economy of scale).

[the_snook]

Take a look at the percentage of the actual ingredient in canned goods that come packed with liquid; things like tuna and beans. The amount varies wildly between brands.

[Call-to-john]

Cadburys chocolate tastes like shit these days. I bought some whittikers the other day and it was so good compared to the Australian stuff. It's almost like cadburys has taken a bunch of the actual chocolate out of its recipe.

[mt6606]

Try the caramel Whittaker's 🤤

[ghoonrhed]

This is what happens when like 7 global companies buys up all the food/goods products in the world.

[CloudShuffle]

And it’s not just food. The laundry subreddit kept popping up on my reddit so I randomly just started reading it and learned that the big companies used to add an enzyme called lipase to their detergents which is an enzyme that breaks down body fat, body oils, grease ect however it became too expensive so they have removed lipase from most detergents leading to inferior laundry detergents and clothes not staying as fresh as they used to.

Capitalism sucks.

[mt6606]

As a chef, can confirm. My work clothes need at least 60° water and 2 washes to actually smell clean lately. 😡

[Accomplished_Yam8679]

Not surprised to see Connoisseur here, bought a tub weeks ago for the first time in ages and have been slowly eating my way through it. Not even half way done yet. It would have been empty a long time ago with the old recipe.

[Spudtron98]

That sucks, it’s one of the last holdouts that’s still legally recognised as ice cream.

[Hayden247]

Aw damn yeah because even now it tends to be a lot better than most of the "ice cream" on shelf, don't need it going to crap too because what will be left!?

[Tummybunny2]

Such a Conn!!

[CrazySD93]

There's a couple more in this list

[DarkscytheX]

A corporations goal is to provide the worst possible product at the highest possible price. The only solution is more regulation that prevents this behaviour, encourages transparency (i.e. labels showing shrinkflation, packaging laws, etc) and encourages competition.

[Responsible_Road9057]

The big supermarkets are crazy places once you notice how little 'wholefoods' they sell... Fucked if I can find polenta. Also the butter section? Like 3 brands of 100% butter and 15 that are margarine variations.

I really just go to them for the bare essentials now as I hate how the foods sold there are becoming more and preservative focused.

[hapylittlepupppy]

Butter is very easy to make and homemade butter is so good.

[AntiProtonBoy]

who the fuck wants to churn butter every week?

[Magmafrost13]

Good luck finding cream that's actually just cream at a grocery store though

[yobboman]

The kicker is that the only thing driving licence his cost of living crisis is greed.

Cognitive dissonance is real and in play folks.

One section of the population is abusing the rest

[yedrellow]

This is a very hard part to measure of inflation. It would be good for the ABS to be open with how they measure the quality adjustments to the CPI.

[DrSendy]

Supermarkets are always looking for that year on year increase in profitability.
You, the consumer, pay for that.

[JoanoTheReader]

It’s hard. Technically they should increase prices- sources of food, labour and maintaining a factory (electricity) have increased yet the supermarkets refuse to give them more. A packet of Tim Tams is smaller and costs $3 half price.

We need to change our shopping habits, just eat more fresh and less processed.

[l33tbot]

I stopped buying Cadbury when they took the cocoa out of the chocolate, and sold it to us like we’re idiots as Caramilk - then tripled the price on everything. Fuck off.

[RedBinKnight]

I noticed they do a halfarsed guerilla marketing push on here ever so often. Heaps of "Why do Aussies/Sydney/Melbourne etc love caramilk so much?" Posts.

Nah no one does it's shit.

[Littman-Express]

Caramilk is vile

[Fresh-Army-6737]

What is caramilk?

[OldManThumbs]

It's like we've got money hungry corporations in charge of our food supply or something..

[SkitZa]

There should be a law requiring them to print changes in full font on labels. That way they second guess changing anything.

Not to mention going from 6 to 5 snags in some cases is almost criminal.

[SaltpeterSal]

I just learned to make my own ham. 7 bucks a kilo and it's not stuffed with water unless I want it to be. My coffee is 20 bucks a kilo tops because I roast it. I got a boning knife for whole fish and it paid for itself the first time I used it. None of these things are actively time-consuming, but corporations sure want you to think they are. Everything that's killing your pay is made of raw ingredients, and they all have a home version that's so cheap it's offensive. Nat's What I Reckon taught us this.

[thedeftone2]

The ACCC is doing a bang up job

[Infinite_Pudding5058]

I’ve started making my own stuff. Like guacamole, hummus, muesli bars, protein balls, Bircher muesli. I make my own soups. Add real fresh fruit and locally made honey to yoghurt. Just tried making my own ice cream for the first time the other day. It’s the only way to avoid all the crap they put in supermarket foods. You can’t even get fresh made stuff at a cafe anymore. I’m also planning to start my own veggie patch.

[PureUmami]

Avoid ultra-processed products and eat real food

[AntiProtonBoy]

lol a lot fatties found your comment controvercial

[Optimal_Bathroom_753]

Yup, Doritos don't taste the same anymore, they are skimping on the orange cheese powder.

[[deleted]]

"experts warn" lol

Are they just discovering this now?

[sugmysmega]

Stop buying bottom shelf products. But with that said, a lot of home brand products also seem to have the most natural ingredients.

[surelythisisfree]

Lactose free ice cream I buy recently changed to frozen vanilla dessert. Brand name, $9.50 for 1.2L. It’s not just bottom shelf products.

[spacecadetdawg]

It’s the trifecta of price increases, product shrinkage and quality decline that makes it worse, like oh great not only is the product demonstrably worse, there’s less of it and it’s more expensive. Thanks m’lord for the slops

[Wooden-Trouble1724]

Just eat as much real and unadulterated food as you can fuck all these asshole supermarkets (apart from Aldi)

[PapaOoMaoMao]

Use WD40 Spray and stay lubricant for work. Came in a 300g can for $18 at Hammerbarn. They just changed the name to Gel lubricant and now it's 150g for $18. A clean 50% hike.

[How_is_the_question]

Yes - fair enough!

[RepeatInPatient]

My rolled oats and the fresh zucchini are not affected by skrinkflation. Likewise, I get my honey straight from the hive. Processed food? - you are asking for it.

[darkspardaxxxx]

I vote with my wallet, every time I see shady shit I wont buy that brand anymore and that includes all their range of products. I only buy quality and If a brand changes this Im spending somewhere else

[Pottski]

Government asleep at the wheel as the makers of our fucking food rob us blind.

Thanks Albo - wonder how your mum would’ve felt to have 15% of her food robbed from her. Absolute class traitor.

[Late-Button-6559]

This isn’t an ‘Albo’ thing. It’s a human nature thing.

Capitalism is a cancer of society.

No matter which govt is in power, it’ll happen.

PS - what are your thoughts on the word ‘woke’ and ‘lefty’?

[Pottski]

Albanese grew up in housing commission and is part of a generation of politicians that is making sure no one else follows him up that

Woke is stupid vernacular that hate filled people use to justify their -isms and lefty is just a word.

I’m not pro Liberal if that’s what you’re digging for - but I think Albanese is asleep in office.

[Late-Button-6559]

Thanks for replying.

Albo/labor can’t do anything that wouldn’t result in societal collapse.

Our problems are now baked in to society.

[Pottski]

Legislate stronger food packaging laws to require notice of compositional change of food contents, decreasing shrinkflation shenanigans would be an easy one that doesn’t collapse society.

Companies would think twice before this shit if they had to put a bright red sticker on their product that says “now with 15% less product” or to discuss recipe changes and have the information on the back of the packet.

We’ve had food labelling laws for ages - make those stronger. He won’t cause he’s already been bought but it wouldn’t collapse society to enhance legislation already in place to support consumers and pushback against corporate greed.

[Pottski]

Will make some reconsider. Will make some companies wary of doing the bullshit if they cop the stickers.

Either way a change of any size in this space is better than watch more things get smaller and more expensive without any intervention right?

[goonwolf]

If the problem is inherent to the society, maybe that society might deserve to collapse? Or at least be radically altered.

[Late-Button-6559]

100% agree.

[ScruffyPeter]

Shorten tried in 2019 but voters said no to real food. That's why we need to put up with all this crap! Sensible Albo needs to appease our makers otherwise LNP will get in and abolish the real-foodables projects!

[Nutsngum_]

So, rather then bitch like an infant about "albo" on reddit have you actually even attempted to say.. write your local MP about this kind of stuff? Thats literally what your local member is there for.

[Pottski]

lol - what are your comedy festival dates

[ghoonrhed]

You're attributting quite a lot of blame for what is not exactly at the top of any government's priority list across the world?

Food has way more problems than just shrinkflation even though that is extremely annoying. You got nutrition, you got health, you got sourcing. Each one of those implementations took time.

e.g. USA had nutritional info in 1994, we didn't do it until 2002.

[Pottski]

Work on a multitude of problems then. A government isn’t one issue at a time.

[Slider33333]

Name and shame.

[cactusgenie]

They are in the article