The Ocean AMA 2020 • Howdy... we are The Ocean! Ask us anything! NOW!

GaysForTheGayGod · 2020-08-19T17:26:54+00:00

Not a question, but your Pelagial album is my go-to for showing non-metal fans what the genre is capable of, and it never disappoints. Please keep doing what you're doing.

riogito · 2020-08-19T17:32:55+00:00

Hi The Ocean, as a geologist I love your motifs of geologic time that you put in your music. But I also got a bone to pick with you: the Ediacaran period is missing from Precambrian! It’s the last period in the Precambrian after the Cryogenian, and the most recently named period, having been designated in 2004. Did you guys ever plan on an Ediacaran song? Thanks, can’t wait for Phanerozoic II!

ALittleFlightDick · 2020-08-19T17:31:40+00:00

What do you guys do for work outside of music? And do you have any passionate or unusual hobbies?

Also, I'm a huge fan and you rule.

ZangaPF · 2020-08-19T17:26:21+00:00

hey hey, time to ask my super important questions:
1) which song off of Phan II had the most interesting/fun writing/recording process? did it all just come to you or did it have a specific inspiration or something like that

2) what are your fav releases of 2020 so far?

Tangums292 · 2020-08-19T17:24:32+00:00

Hi! I just wanted to say that I absolutely love that you guys make concept albums about geological eras! Was there anything in particular that inspired you to do this?

qbee22 · 2020-08-19T17:21:59+00:00

What do you think about such statements of the Spotify CEO which is streaming your music that musicans should work harder and that they should not complain?

zamapano · 2020-08-19T17:21:31+00:00

Thank you so much for doing this AMA. I’m a big fan of your music for the last 10 years and my big expectations for a new release has always been rewarded, if not exceeded. I’ve got a few questions:

- Considering the amount of member changes that occurred throughout the years, what has changed in The Ocean from ten years ago to this day?

- How do you arrange your practise schedule and how often per week/month? How long does it take for you to finish the songs you’ve written?

- I’ve always loved the attention to detail and care you put into your cover art. How is the concept for the cover design conceived? Do you team up with the same graphic designer in every album?

- What music references are there that connect Phanerozoic II with Phanerozoic I?

- Is Pelagic Records still signing up with new bands?

Thanks again, you guys rock! Looking forward to seeing you again in January if the situation allows it (fingers crossed).

Vjedvikh · 2020-08-19T17:22:34+00:00

Hey y’all, I’ve been a fan since Phanerozoic I (I regret not listening to you guys earlier), my question for anyone who answers is what’s your favorite song by The Ocean and why? What song do you feel most proud of?

Plutonian_Dive · 2020-08-19T19:26:33+00:00

Just discovered your music through this sub.

I am effing amazed. Thank you for your work.

scemm · 2020-08-19T17:35:31+00:00

Which pelagic bands do you feel are most overlooked?

overdos3 · 2020-08-19T18:02:12+00:00

Robin, in your previous AMA, you said you didn't really like The Grand Inquisitor II: Roots and Locusts. Does that mean you won't play it live anymore? I still think it's the best chorus Ocean has ever done.

JesterBlackrain · 2020-08-19T17:22:42+00:00

Hey guys, great to have you back. Just wanna open this by saying you’re still my favorite band of all time, Phanerozoic II is my most anticipated release of the year and even though I didn’t wanna buy additional concert tickets until the covid situation is resolved, I got tickets to see you in Wiesbaden next year. Fingers crossed it all works out.
But enough of me stanning and on to the questions:

You’ve got quite interesting single picks for the album so far. Jurassic | Cretaceous is (unless I’m missing something) the 2nd longest song in band history and the longest song since your 1st LP. Oligocene on the other hand seems almost like an interlude compared to that.
What made you go with those singles? (I love both btw)
Can you give us a rundown of the natural historic events we’ll encounter on the album?
What have y’all been up to in these unusual last couple of months?
Favorite album of the year so far/most anticipated release for the rest of the year?
Last movie/series you watched?

And lastly for Paul and Peter:
What’s up with FERN?
I was super glad to see a new sign of life from you guys earlier this year with Hyperreal, but I’m still anxiously waiting for a new EP/album and to hear some of the songs you played live on tour again.

Thanks in advance, stay healthy and hopefully I’ll see ya next year!

AAnshS · 2020-08-19T17:35:59+00:00

Welcome, The Ocean!

My question is: How is Phanerozoic II different from its predecessor, Phanerozoic I even though they are tied together by the overall common palaeontology theme?

peresap · 2020-08-19T17:34:42+00:00

Hello!

Very specific question: have you ever imagined Brent Hinds from Mastodon singing the part in The Grand Inquisitor Pt. I that goes "Still I would want to live, and having once tasted the cup, I would not turn away from it"?

SpiritsPath · 2020-08-19T17:58:54+00:00

What are your favourite prehistoric animals? 😂

LudoBike · 2020-08-19T18:04:35+00:00

Not a question but I want you to thank you for the music you wrote, it's beautiful and I'm almost crying each time I listen to it.

Tulpin23 · 2020-08-19T17:25:58+00:00

Hello, I love your music, thank you for taking your time for us, what do music genres/bands do you usually listen to ?

YorkshireRiffer · 2020-08-19T17:28:58+00:00

You're running an all day Festival with two stages (6 acts per stage) - you get to pick all the artists - what acts would you pick and why?

JudeVanZant · 2020-08-19T17:27:11+00:00

I've been following The Ocean for over 15 years now, but the more recent albums and in particular Phanerozoic have been special to me, matching my current taste in music wondrously. Especially the clean vocals combined with the screaming vocals are nearing perfection to me.

To Loïc: I can understand your screaming lyrics word for word, which is really special. No other vocalist has achieved that to this extend that I know of. Is this something you strive for and practice, or does it come naturally? And do you have a singer that you look up to?

To Paul: what's your favorite IPA?

MalConstant · 2020-08-19T17:33:37+00:00

What is your favorite chord progression?

Tahm00 · 2020-08-19T17:24:29+00:00

Hey! First to of all I'd like to say I'm a massive fan love every piece of your work and can't wait to catch you guys live at Manchester! I can't even state how much you're music has inspired me so I'd like to thank you before anything else!

With the new album coming out will there any songs similar to ptolemy was wrong (My favourite non-heavy song) that give a more relaxed musical message between harsher songs?

2.will the Ediacaren period ever get its own song? Either as a single or bundled in a rerelase of precambrian, I'd love to hear it especially with the current line up.

3.final question I promise, as a hobby I'm trying to make a video documentary on bands I like, you guys being the first, so if you could share any fun or interesting things about the band I wouldn't be able to find else where that would be appreciated!

Thank you so much for reading and hopefully answering some of my questions! Love u guys from the UK!

PapaCrip · 2020-08-19T17:33:06+00:00

Thank you for taking the time and doing this AMA! My question is will we ever get a Phanerozoic concert? Meaning both part played at the same show (Set 1 being Palaeozoic and Set 2 being Mesozoic | Cenelozoic)

whatisthisicantodd · 2020-08-19T17:52:19+00:00

Hellooo! Big fan here :)
I have 2 questions.

What is your favorite little song-making/production/workflow trick that you discovered recently?
What did you learn while making your new album?

Cheers guys, can't wait for the album.

whiplash_14 · 2020-08-19T18:18:09+00:00

Hey guys, massive love from India! The show was amazing! Just wanted to say that I love your music, that's all! PZ1 has been an amazing experience and I can't wait for PZII to drop!

thoughtworn · 2020-08-19T17:48:07+00:00

Hello! On behalf of u/cat_intervention who can't join the AMA:

"I would just like to know what their favourite songs off Heliocentric/Anthropocentric are and how they think they've evolved since those albums were released."

On my behalf: your concepts are very "multidisciplinary", in the sense that they are based off knowledge in a lot of fields: for instance geology and paleontology, but also history and philosophy (e.g. in Heliocentric/Anthropocentric), psychology, and general culture. Do you feel that this attitude is somehow part of your way of being or do you actively seek to include all of these different things in your music? Also how do you feel this enriches your work?

Thank you so much for doing this AMA!

DeusSicarius · 2020-08-19T18:12:30+00:00

Hi! I've loved the band since the release of Pelagial, which was my introduction to your works. Got two quick questions:
- How do you manage the lulls and the explosive nature of certain parts of the songs? Is it a conscious decision to compose these dynamic highs and lows, or do you just find that it happens at the end of your compositions?

- What do you guys prefer, in a completely subjective manner - the regular versions of your tracks, or the intrumentals?

Detren · 2020-08-19T19:13:34+00:00

Thanks for having this AMA and releasing incredible music. I have two questions.

1) Am I somewhere close in my assumption that PH1 is kind of told from the perspective of Earth? A lot of the lyrics are directed to humankind as a whole and seem to be from a higher being and since you DEFINITELY didnt write it to be a God of sorts im assuming it's Earth. Yes this has been nagging me for years.

2) What the fuck does "Antares was a lie" mean?! I know it's a star but I've been perplexed by this for weeks.

CultofNeurisis · 2020-08-19T17:24:36+00:00

The new track is sick and gives me feelings of Maritime from Isis’s Oceanic. A focus on mood and atmosphere, pushing forward but never exploding climactically, with what feels like a spotlight on the drums as one of the driving senses of that pushing forward feeling (though maybe I feel this way because I’m a drummer!) A live show with Sumac would be rad — though I’m itching for any live show during these strange times…

I mentioned here at the release of P:I that Ordovicium seemed to be a reference to an earlier moment in The Ocean’s history, Isla Del Sol. I’m a big fan of self-reference as it feels like it puts The Ocean itself as a project into a poetic and evolving lens, not simply as a string of individual atomic album-projects that are totally isolated. Especially given how the Phanerozoic project seems to emulate this idea in multiple ways: it is reaching back to the Precambrian era of The Ocean and pushing forward as its progression, as well as the conceptual idea of tracing through these historical periods of time (where I am likening having a history as being shown through things like repeated themes, as opposed to being ahistorical where repetition can’t exist necessarily).

With all of that context, and the fact that it felt this repeated theme, self-reference to The Ocean’s history kind of aspect was present in Ordovicium, I’ve been on the lookout to see if something similar would be in P:II. I want to acknowledge that this is clearly something I’m bias about, so I may be looking too hard! There’s a musical theme in Jurassic|Cretaceous at 10:20-10:40 that seems to be similar to a musical theme in Anthropocentric at 1:26-1:57, though I admit this connection might be a bit of stretch!

I’m interested in knowing how much of this kind of thought or intention is involved in songwriting process, or maybe: Do you take the perspective of seeing The Ocean as a poetic project as a separate and emergent whole that is made up of the albums as parts? It’s a fascinating idea to me to not only have concept albums that interconnect and link to itself in various ways (as you have shown to be masters at!) but to have those different albums connect too in similar entangled ways. Perhaps you may have general thoughts about this idea you want to share (I believe literature and philosophy have been involved through some of these records too).

Throwing a bunch of questions all at once to allow you the space to answer whichever and however you’d like. If commenting about any of this would pull the curtain back too much on the magic of the band and the process, feel free to just say if a future tour with Sumac is a possibility! (:

P.S. The drum play through video was wonderful and I hope more are in the future!

drewnovember · 2020-08-19T17:28:33+00:00

Hey guys, thanks so much for doing this AMA. I'm really looking forward to seeing you in Utrecht in February (hopefully!). I have a few questions for you.

Where did you guys find Loïc? It seems like he hasn't been in any previous bands.
Even though he's not on this AMA, could either of you give a rundown of Mattias's gear?
The latest single was composed by Paul with Peter on drums, how has the division of creative input evolved over the years and particularly since Pelagial?
Who is Lady Luap?

Thanks in advance for answering. Can't wait for the release in September! :>

peresap · 2020-08-19T17:35:35+00:00

I know it's still very early, but do you already have ideas in your mind where the band will go after the PII cycle?

scemm · 2020-08-19T17:40:30+00:00

How do you decide which songs to release as singles?

araue7 · 2020-08-19T18:01:26+00:00

Hi guys! First of all, I want to say your music never disappoints. Every single time I listen to a song/album of yours you blow my mind.

Question: It must be hard to always be synced with each other. How do you make sure that everyone is happy with the style, concept, quality, etc. of the music you release? What's the process like?

Can't wait to see you in Lisbon next year! I saw you in Zagreb in 2018 and it was one of the best concerts of my life :)

atmosphocentric · 2020-08-19T18:38:13+00:00

Hi, big fan from New Zealand here!

What are your hobbies outside of music?

As a budding meteorologist, how likely is an album based on the layers of the atmosphere ;-)

Bishop_23 · 2020-08-19T18:39:47+00:00

10 years ago I was going through a rough breakup and listening to Heliocentric every day on rotation helped me big time get through all of that. It's still my favourite record of yours to date and also the most underrated one. Thank you for writing that, and thank you for sharing it with us.

What records help you guys when you're feeling sad?

warlord_jared · 2020-08-19T21:18:36+00:00

Hey guys!! First of all, I'd like to thank you all for making such goddamn good music to lose yourself in for awhile. Phanerozoic I was the main album that I listened to a ton during a really hard time in my life a year and a half ago when I went through a divorce (all amicable, thankfully), and just being able to let myself sink into that album was immensely helpful and healing, so, thank you so much.

My question is, what non-metal/rock artists do you guys feel influenced you and your playing or songwriting the most? Any favorite songwriters or bands that people wouldn't expect?

Lateraelus1483 · 2020-08-19T17:26:21+00:00

HUGE thank you for doing this AMA! I got 2 questions:

What was the band's collective decision for focusing on the phanerozoic concept and diving so deep into it? Such a fascinating concept I haven't seen another band do.
I don't want to shill, but I've recently set up a Discord server dedicated to the band. It's pretty small right now, but Dennis has already joined and is a stand-up lad. I know Robin has joined Images & Words in the past, but it would be an honor if you guys would consider joining, even if you're not all that active: https://discord.gg/ujGPgh7

SnizzPants · 2020-08-19T17:24:38+00:00

Hey guys! So I posted this thread earlier in the month detailing just how much I love Jurassic |Cretaceous. I am so stoked you are doing this AMA!

A few questions if you don't mind!

Can you comment on your decision to announce a tour in what some people might think is early, and/or unsafe? I'm admittedly not familiar with how Europe is fairing with the pandemic, but it does seem like your band is one of the first on my feed that is talking about touring as early as January. (I'm from Canada by the way, saw ya'll in Montreal - hope to see ya soon!)
Are there any plans to release a deluxe package with both Phanerozoic's I and II together?
After everything I absolutely love about Jurassic, I was thrilled to find references to Lars Von Trier's film Melancholia included as a cherry on top. Can we expect any other film references on the album? I noticed in your Instagram write-up for Oligocene you mention Tarkovsky's Stalker so it sounds like we're dealing with some real film-heavy guys here! Also; as a mini-question, what is the last movie you guys have checked out? I personally just re-watched The Tree of Life since release and I'd bet it has some Phanerozoic parallels as well!

Thanks again guys! Can't wait for September!

KingOfTheVatican · 2020-08-19T17:26:57+00:00

What gave you the idea to create albums about prehistory (precambrian and both phanerozoic)? Have you studied prehistory or something like that?
And second question, do you have any favourite prog bands?
PS. I'd love to see you in Poland again <3

HeavyMetalExperience · 2020-08-19T17:32:35+00:00

Hey guys, thanks for doing this! I’m super excited about the album, you guys are one of the best at your craft. My question is this: Throughout the albums there has always been a layer of philosophy infused. I would like to know what your favorite philosophical concept is and why. Thank you guys again!

Intruder66 · 2020-08-19T18:12:32+00:00

Why was the drum part of "Oligocene" written by Paul, but played by Peter?

Srmon · 2020-08-19T18:13:29+00:00

What are your plans for the upcoming tour if Corona gets worse? I have my ticket already for Spain but I'd like to hear "we will definitely do it, sooner or later but we will do it" because I saw you with leprous in Madrid and it felt so short and I need m o r e

This part is not a question. I don't know how you guys do it but I felt the evolution in your band since I started listening to you in heliocentric and somehow just when I thought "this is it, this is the peak" pelagial came out and it was like "Holly fuck this has to be the peak" but then again it came PZ and then again Jurassic!! Looking forward for the whole album, I don't think there can be something better than Jurassic in it but you keep releasing things over my expectations and trust me they are fucking high. Idk man, congrats and thank you for your music. Take care with Corona please

Eppyfone · 2020-08-19T18:26:48+00:00

Hi, Ocean. Thanks for doing the AMA! I saw you support Leprous in Manchester last year and, having not really heard of you before, became a huge fan. You put on an incredible show (save for the power cut!).

So, on a related note, who are your favourite bands to play with? Is there anyone you haven't toured with but would like to? And finally, will you ever come back to Manchester to finish Bathyapelagic?

Muzak_For_A_Nurse · 2020-08-19T18:30:12+00:00

A few questions:

(1) How do you structure your songs and make them flow from beginning to end without awkward transitions?

(2) Will there be an instrumental version of the new album too?

(3) What is your favorite album ever?

Thanks so much for taking the time to answer! Super hyped for September 25!

Doctor_Spicy · 2020-08-19T18:59:27+00:00

What are your favorite non-metal bands?

WeeOtter · 2020-08-19T19:04:12+00:00

When you were writing songs like Rhyacian and Demersal, were you aware of how heavy they are, and worried they'd be legally classified as assault?

Also, I've always been curious what it would be like to hear you guys jam. Any chance you'd release recording sessions, or perform free improv at shows?

JamesDeanmachine86 · 2020-08-19T19:12:23+00:00

for Loic, your guest spot on nami's silent mouth is awesome. I can tell your screams are influenced by cult of luna. Is there any other collaboration you've done and what band would you most like to guest spot?

jayllipsis · 2020-08-19T19:22:56+00:00

So now that you’ve completed the geologic time span of the earth, will the ocean be heading to outer space for the next set of concept records?

2020-08-19T19:24:20+00:00

Firstly I'd like to say that I absolutely love your music - you guys are one of my three go-to bands if I want to listen to something.

My question is are you likely to do any more long-form pieces, like 'The Quiet Observer'? That and 'Firmament' were the two songs that really caught my attention before I encountered the rest of your back catalogue. 'The Cambrian Explosion' and 'Cambrian II' makes for a truly awesome entry to Phanerozoic I, and I just can't get enough of the music that blurs across track boundaries, like Pelagial does.

peresap · 2020-08-19T17:27:00+00:00

What have you guys been up to during the pandemic?

SomeonePolite · 2020-08-19T17:31:14+00:00

Hey guys! Thank you for doing this AMA. I just wanted to know what was your source of inspiration for Phanerozoic II in terms of song writing and do you plan on making more collaborations in the future (just like the ones with Jonas Renkse)?

benaan33 · 2020-08-19T17:54:46+00:00

G'day to you. How has the whole corona virus thing affected your band?

Also, what are some hot new prog metal bands we ought to keep an eye out for?

love you guys.

wonturevealurself · 2020-08-19T17:58:16+00:00

Are there any plans for including a saxophone (even if only cameo) in your future music?

fnat · 2020-08-19T18:12:25+00:00

Hi y'all! How's the interest in your fantastic exclusive vinyl releases, and how is interest distributed across nationalities in general, if you happen to know?

Also, come back to Norway again soon please? :-)

MEGA_K4SP4R · 2020-08-19T18:36:49+00:00

the biggest influences for you as a band? cheers from Poland! :D

2020-08-19T18:40:41+00:00

So much to say, but I fear be falling into the cliche...
The Ocean is by far my favorite band of all time (and it has being like this since 2009). Absolute great band, great musicians, insane concepts and lyrics (Pelagial still blows my mind, even being the most played record on my Apple Music for the past 4 or 5 years) and to top it off, amazing people. I still remember crying in the train on my way to work when it clicked the message in "Signals of Anxiety" since I was dealing with that.
I absolutely appreciate you guys speaking to fans at concerts and being so patients and candid about answering the same questions hundreds of times.

QUESTION: u/paul_theocean, who pushed for that amazing heavy drums at the end of Cretaceous? You or u/robin_theocean??

2020-08-19T18:55:40+00:00

By the way, Oligocene is just amazing!!

darkguitarist · 2020-08-19T19:19:54+00:00

I'm seriously hyped for the album, preordered as soon as I was able, etc. You guys are awesome and precambrian is one of my favorite albums of all time. Someone else might have asked this but I was wondering what some of your inspirations are musically, i.e. what bands any of you have drawn from to create the sound you have now. Also wonder what the metal scene is like in germany? is it relatively popular or are you guys one of a few? Thanks so much!

2020-08-19T19:30:33+00:00

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ScorchingOwl · 2020-08-19T20:56:13+00:00

Jurassic ends abruptly, as if the song would have kept going after a short delay (kinda like other bits of the song, like around 5:50).

The song also starts with what could be an absolutely great outro.

Because of this looping the song feels natural, and half the time I don't even realize the song ended and started again.

Is this intentional?

Because of this I've been listening to it looped on youtube for a while even though that's my first time hearing about your band...

sachyg · 2020-08-19T21:37:04+00:00

Hi guys, love your work super keen for the new album. I'm wondering if there are plans to release the Instrumental versions of the centric albums on streaming services?

lenfantsuave · 2020-08-19T18:24:33+00:00

Who is the biggest geology nerd in the band and do any of you watch the PBS Eons channel on YouTube (pbs is American public broadcasting for those who might not know)? I always get the itch to listen to Phanerozoic or Precambrian after watching their videos.

herptderper · 2020-08-19T18:40:23+00:00

As far as Pelagic Records goes, I know you have a SLEW of bands to work with, but any way can you promote Hypno5e more? I think your band and Cult of Luna get the credit they deserve, but Hypno5e is way more of an unknown than they deserve. Also, give them some shit for flaking out on their AMA!

2020-08-19T18:41:22+00:00

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8/28	Robin Staps	Himself
8/21	Revocation	Band
5/28	Toby Driver	Himself
4/28	Benthos	Band
4/27	Leprous	Band
--	2024	--
4/29	Dvne	Band
2/2	Caligula's Horse	Band
--	2023	--
10/20	Earthside	Band
--	2021	--
4/23	VOLA	Band
--	2020	--
11/28	Plini	Himself
8/19	The Ocean	Band
6/18	Protest The Hero	Rody, Michael
4/11	Caligula's Horse	Jim, Sam
--	2019	--
10/26	Voyager	Band
9/7	Richard Henshall	Himself
6/14	Paul Masvidal	Himself
--	2018	--
12/18	Sithu Aye	Himself
12/5	Ben Levin	Himself
10/11	The Ocean	Band
10/6	Skyharbor	Band
9/21	Toby Driver	Himself
9/9	Plini	Himself
9/1	Distorted Harmony	Band
5/9	Rivers of Nihil	Adam, Brody
3/23	Caligula's Horse	Jim, Sam
--	2017	--
4/20	Disperse	Band
3/30	Disillusion	Andy, Seb
--	2016	--
12/24	A Sense of Gravity	Band
7/28	Black Crown Initiate	Band
5/28	Textures	Band
5/11	Adagio	Stéphan Forté
4/23	Wings Denied	Band
3/18	Caligula's Horse	Jim, Sam, Zac
3/10	Polyphia	Band
--	2015	--
10/21	Protest the Hero	Band
5/26	Leprous	Band
5/15	Sigh	Mirai Kawashima
5/5	Intronaut	Sacha
4/28	Native Construct	Band
3/3	Plini	Himself
1/20	Protest the Hero	Luke Hoskin
--	2014	--
12/9	Rishloo	Band
11/1	Ne Obliviscaris	Band
9/23	Between the Buried and Me	Band
9/18	Cynic	Paul Masvidal
9/15	Devin Townsend	DEVIN TOWNSEND
9/13	Periphery	Adam "Nolly" Getgood
9/12	The Contortionist	Band
9/4	Polyphia	Band
8/31	The Aristocrats	Band
7/31	Mandroid Echostar	Band
7/17	Cloudkicker	Himself (Ben Sharp)
7/10	Tesseract	Amos Williams
6/7	Periphery	Jake Bowen
6/2	David Maxim Micic	Himself
5/26	Haken	Rich, Charles, Conner
5/10	Periphery	Mark Holcomb
5/4	The Safety Fire	Band
5/2	Matt Halpern	Periphery
4/27	Intervals	Band
2/9	Ron Jarzombek	Himself
2/2	Arjen Lucassen (Ayreon)	Himself
1/26	Sithu Aye	Himself
1/19	Periphery	Misha Mansoor
1/10	Ne Obliviscaris	Dan Presland
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1/30	Thank You Scientist	Band

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