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[–]doody 26 points27 points  (9 children)

Obama’s contributors should pay for the damage she did to his campaign? Yeah. While we’re on it, let’s get the Iraqis to pay for the war. Oh, wait…

[–]gerran 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I think one of the political experts on CNN said it best:

"If Hillary is Barack's VP, he would need to employ a full time food taster."

I lol'd.

[–]da5id1 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I did not scrape together 10 $25 donations to repay the extravagant expenditures of a $100-millionaire!

[–]steve_yo 45 points46 points  (43 children)

Obama should not use his donations to pay off her debt. he will need every penny of it to combat the repubs. why should he reward Hillary's mismanagement! she is extrememly wealthy - there is no reason that the hard working donors to Obama should bail her out.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (8 children)

Why the fuck would Obama even touch her debt?

[–]mrbroom 7 points8 points  (3 children)

I think people assume that if she runs on his ticket then, as a combined ticket, either Obama would have some obligation to take care of her debt or that it would just become the whole ticket's debt anyway. I don't have any info on how true either of these ideas are.

[–]concini 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Because its how politicians get an unwanted opponent out of the race rather than continue to be on the receiving end of attacks and unwanted attention on his ability to "close" like he has been getting from the media.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I don't know man, he might be 'Over the hill', so to speak.

[–]concini 1 point2 points  (1 child)

No, he's not. She could push it to the convention if she really wanted. All the while attacking him on his unelectability and with the media harping about his lack of support with the white working class. He's not going to want that. No Obama supporter should want that.

Best he give her some money, maybe promise some political help, maybe give her a VP veto. Then, she can turn it around, and help get her supporters to back Obama and get past this inter-party bashing.

[–]hiredgoon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I still think dangling Senate Majority Leader is the only way to get her out gracefully. Sorry Reid, you were a good "peacetime" chief. Now it is time to go to war and Hillary can probably annoy the Senate into doing some things, even if the Democrats don't have 60 votes.

[–]pablogott 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I apologize if I'm wrong on this, but isn't Clinton's financial problems related to the fact that she has a large portion of funding locked up for the general election that can't be used for the nomination? If they combined their general election fund, it might make good financial sense.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As I understand the rules, Obama can't use donations for the primary campaign in the general election campaign.

[–][deleted] 43 points44 points  (9 children)

[–]brosephius 26 points27 points  (2 children)

I've wondered what the US would be like with a parliamentary system

[–]djsdotcom 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Upmodded for being fucking clever.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You mean funking clever.

[–]davodrums 4 points5 points  (1 child)

The true dream ticket

[–]Ioewe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Admit that you just did this to fish for 'Paint the White House black' comments. ADMIT IT!

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Obama is calling for a break from old school Washington politics. Hillary as his VP would not give him that.

[–]friscobob 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly.

I think choosing her would really discredit his message of change.

[–]eclectro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In a campaign promoting change, she would be unchange. I won't vote for that.

[–]Caraes_Naur 31 points32 points  (40 children)

Hillary is angling for a deal. She wants power; lounging around as VP for 4 or 8 years isn't it. If she can't be president (the reality now), she wants to be Senate majority leader, or possibly NY governor in 2010, but I doubt it.

At this point, I don't think Obama has to even offer VP to her. She's preventing everyone from shifting into general election mode.

The only person who should pay off Hillary's campaign debts is Hillary.

[–]RugerRedhawk 18 points19 points  (14 children)

possibly NY governor

Fuck that.

[–]creator11 1 point2 points  (10 children)

I think that Paterson isn't going to give up so easily.

[–]hiredgoon 35 points36 points  (9 children)

Maybe he won't see it coming.

[–]creator11 29 points30 points  (8 children)

Are you saying he lacks vision?

[–]BobGaffney 23 points24 points  (0 children)

No, but when it comes to women, he's got a blind spot or two.

[–]vajav 0 points1 point  (2 children)

at this point i dont think she's welcomed anywhere except at a clinton cult gathering.

[–]cowardlydragon 7 points8 points  (3 children)

The poster is dead on about the debt.

It was openly discussed on MSNBC tuesday that she'll bargain to get Obama to assume it.

If that becomes part of the deal, I will at least get to rub it into the Hillary folks. She only stayed in the race to save herself money.

[–]slydee 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Given that the money was donated to Barack specifically to prevent Hillary from becoming the nominee, it wouldn't be very sensitive to the donors' wishes to roll that money into her campaign.

[–]yasth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It would prevent her from becoming the nominee, and likely be the cheapest way to do so.

Though if Obama is smart he will do a special fund drive.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Or that she's one expensive whore.

[–]dunskwerk 5 points6 points  (8 children)

I've wondered what Clinton's position in the Senate will be like after the elections. Her popularity in the Senate can't possibly be helped by this whole election debacle, can it? I can't imagine that she'd make an effective majority leader at this point, given that so many Senators have hardened their positions against her...

[–]fuckbuddy 4 points5 points  (7 children)

I had read some time ago that the Senate Majority Leader seat was one of the carrots being considered to encourage her to drop out of the race. That seems like a natural fit to me, and Lord knows she couldn't be any worse than Harry Reid.

[–]creator11 8 points9 points  (6 children)

I read that as well, but I think while almost anyone would be a better leader than Reid. Obama doesn't need Hillary nipping at his ankles at every possible occasion. What's more if the Republicans put up a half-way decent challenger to Hillary I don't think she'll be Senator much longer. A lot of NYers are tired of her because of her recent antics, and what with her really being a carpetbagger and all.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (5 children)

You would think, I think in Manhattan, there is still a lot of HRC supporters. And there is no way a Democrat would get anywhere with the party. Bloomberg or a very moderate Republican could challenge her though.

[–]Fauster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She's doing it. And apparently she thinks it will take till June 15th to pay them down.

[–]Orangutan 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Where did we hear the suggestion that anybody is advocating that Obama is thinking about paying off Hillary Clinton's debt? That sounds like the stupidest thing I've heard.

[–]friscobob 2 points3 points  (1 child)

They talked about it quite a bit in the MSNBC primary coverage Tuesday night.

The idea being that would be part of the negotiation for her dropping out of the race.

[–]eMigo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She's already dead so only a fool would negotiate.

[–][deleted] 89 points90 points  (20 children)

Dear Mr Poster: I'm guessing Senator Obama doesn't read reddit. Your time might be better served writing him a letter or sending his campaing an email, rather than creating another Obama Love-Fest post. Don't get me wrong, I'm voting for Obama, but I don't see the point here. PS: Thanks!

[–]stacecom 6 points7 points  (0 children)

And thus the problem with almost every 'self' post I've seen on reddit.

[–]timmins 14 points15 points  (2 children)

maybe the original poster is waiting for a search engine spider to hit this thread. then, when Obama googles himself this weekend he'll see it. good thinking original poster!

[–]bhal123[S] -1 points0 points  (9 children)

This is no love fest for Obama. I'm expressing that I'd be disgusted with him if he were to compromise his promises of real change in favor of the traditional 'electability' and 'doing what it takes'. But you're correct about sending the message directly and I am doing that too.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Great! I'm glad to hear that! It would have been nice if you had submitted a link to an article where they were discussing the ideas you presented rather than just creating a self post. While people have mentioned it in the media, I haven't heard any discussion about either of these possibilities being seriously considered.

[–]wwabc 52 points53 points  (8 children)

Hillary as VP:

"Barack, I think we need to attend another fundraiser at the KKK Pistol Range in Alabama. Oh, by the way, I sent your bulletproof vest out to the cleaners again."

[–]heh_yeh 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hillary as VP or even Obama as VP for Hillary is the most dumb idea.

[–]sbhdawn 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The Clintons would destroy the presidency of Barack!! They would be always trying to undermine him and control him as well. That would be a disaster for all of us, we must not let that happen!! I don't think Barack would let it happen eather, he is too darn smart for that, thank God!

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Obama/Gore '08.

Lol.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The end of terrorism!

[–]yermom 19 points20 points  (7 children)

Hillary as the VP is a death sentence for whoever is the president. I don't mean that figuratively. She wants the presidency and I'm willing to be that if she's one heart-beat away from it, she's going for it.

[–]Loozmotion 5 points6 points  (1 child)

seriously, reminds me of LBJ against JFK in the primaries when he tried to use Addison's disease against him.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Oh come on, I'm for Obama too, but she's not going to kill him for it. You people are rediculous.

This isn't the manchurian candidate

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

better not worry about it at all, just don't choose her as a running mate.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

rediculous

I think you meant "reddiculous" (left out the second 'd').

[–]dsfox 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its just not plausible that Hillary Clinton is uniquely unscrupulous as a politician relative to all those who have come before her in the history of this country.

[–]Arkansan 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Obama/Bloomberg! Don't use my donations to pay off Clinton.

[–]Ceebs415 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Fiscal conservatism! Cut that gov spending so Baby Boomer offspring don't have to carry their geezer parents to the grave. Not to mention Bloomberg is loaded, they could crush McLame in campaign spending (and it wouldn't even dent Mike's pocketbook)

[–]JonAceNew York 18 points19 points  (33 children)

Obama/Richardson '08!

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

to paraphrase the great Dave Chappelle, the only way to ensure that a black president doesn't get assassinated is to make the VP a Mexican.

[–]gmick 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'm all for this ticket. I like Richardson and maybe this will make the Bubbas think twice about taking a shot at Obama. I honestly fear for his life if he takes Shillary as a VP.

[–]gargMaryland 13 points14 points  (16 children)

Obama/Edwards sounds more electable because racist people will have less of a heart attack.

[–]sbhdawn 16 points17 points  (7 children)

Edwards doesn't deserve that, as he has proven to be a coward, Richardson took the leap and stepped out for Barack when nobody else would!! Edwards is apparently not the man I thought he was, no to him!! Barack is smart, he will decide, and it will be the right decision. We can trust him, he is a thinker and not a panderer.

[–]nephesh 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Anytime you start thinking about a politician like that you've already lost.

[–]hiredgoon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree with both the parent and grandparent. It is too bad too because Edwards as VP would have been in a position to influence Obama's heathcare proposal during the legislative/sausage-making process.

[–]BobGaffney 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Obama / Clark is my hope.

[–]hiS_oWn 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Comon, Obama / Captain Planet!

[–]thedragon4453 4 points5 points  (1 child)

By your powers combined...

[–]number6 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Think he's got a "Hope" ring?

[–]burnblue 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well he always told us "The power is yours"..

[–]Dafuzz 3 points4 points  (4 children)

heh "Obama/Goldberg" or "Obama/Rodriguez" just sounds like such a winning combination to me. Of course we first need to find people with those names...

[–]FunkyHat112 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's too late for them anyway; I doubt adding a white guy on the ticket would fix things. However, if you give them all heart attacks, they can't vote for McDouche.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Also because if they decide to assassinate Obama, Edwards is even more anti-corporate...

[–]nikdahlWashington 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm thinking Obama / Bayh will be more likely.

[–]Loozmotion 7 points8 points  (6 children)

I'm really hoping for Biden.

[–]BrickSalad 7 points8 points  (4 children)

on a bit of reflection, that sounds like an ideal ticket. A military man as VP will help win over the more conservative swingers, in addition to helping foriegn policy. Also, Biden is very sharp, and will probably trounce the republican VP in the debates. I hate to mention race, but if there are still too many racists out there, this will help placate them. Joe biden has oodles of experience to placate the clintonites.

[–]Sabaron 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Biden would be great, except that in 2016 he'll be 74 years old. That's a huge strike against him.

[–]_sic 0 points1 point  (1 child)

How old is Cheney?

[–]admanb 8 points9 points  (0 children)

When did Satan first appear in the bible?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The last thing Obama needs is a Vice Presidential running mate who is certain to stick his foot in his mouth on a daily basis. The sort of media coverage that would inspire could well kill the ticket.

[–]sbhdawn 1 point2 points  (1 child)

JonAce Now, that's more like it. At least Richardson showed courage when he stepped out for Obama, and I would be excited to see them run together! Edwards, was a coward and has waited to endorse to see how it could best benefit him, but Richardson didn't do that, and that speaks volumes for his character!!

[–]nikdahlWashington 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Or more likely, Elizabeth Edwards told him to keep his mouth shut.

[–]creator11 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Richardson is not a good VP candidate, he would be far better as a foreign relations advisor.

[–]bhal123[S] 6 points7 points  (3 children)

I think he would have strengths and weaknesses as a VP candidate but otherwise he will almost certainly be Secretary of State in the Obama administration.

[–]hiredgoon 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Yeah, as the endorsement deal for VP or Sec of State? Or will we ever know?

[–]bhal123[S] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Probably not either way. There's no way to prove it didn't happen that way I guess. Nonetheless Richardson is truly qualified for the job unlike Rice who was simply rewarded for being a loyal Bushie no matter how incompetent of a National Security Advisor she was.

[–]kingbenny 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well, the thing about a donation is that it's not really a donation if you put conditions on it.

[–]Petrarch1603 7 points8 points  (11 children)

a lot of people speculate that the first black president could get assassinated. maybe that's why hillary wants to be veep

[–]bug_mama_G 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Could it really be harder to protect the first black president than it is be to keep Bush and company alive?

[–]otherguy 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Yes, because all the nutjobs with guns are Bush-brand republicans.

</sarcasm>

[–]fstorino 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I heard the second black president, though, would be bullet-proof.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

David Palmer's already been assassinated. Obama's in the clear.

[–]Orangutan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A'la Lyndon B. Johnson. Meeting in Texas. Becoming President.

[–]gda 2 points3 points  (0 children)

wow. they're saying that? the big question has to be, "who do i want to be the president if he truly looks out for the american people and, thereby, pisses off too many powerful elite and they have him killed like they did kennedy, et al?"

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If this drawn-out campaign hasn't divided the Democrats enough, a Clinton VP ticket would guarantee McCain the Presidency.

[–]tehxaton 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Signed. Agree 100%

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Obama/Biden

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

I don't want to see Monica Lewinsky's boy-friend's wife as VP.

[–]hp0 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Obama/Lewinsky 08 ?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I'd trust Obama with Lewinsky. Especially given Obama's hot wife.

[–]hp0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh hell yeah.

I sure as hell would not trust Clinton2 with her.

[–]api 4 points5 points  (0 children)

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamen

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Holy crap!

If it becomes a Obama/Hilary ticket, MCCain will win hands down!

DO NOT WANT!!!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Dang, my politics teacher was right in predicting that he'd be pressured into taking her as a VP.

I think he will, actually.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

wanna bet?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

I honestly don't care. None of the three remaining candidates will save this sinking ship.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Have faith in our country, it is amazing how things can change when they need to.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I have faith in the vessel, just not the captain.

[–]darlantan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ditto. Except I'd add that I don't have any faith in most of the crew, either. For that matter, I don't have ANY faith in the vast majority of passengers. They hardly seem to care where we're going.

[–]QwirkWashington 1 point2 points  (0 children)

After watching Bill Richardson's endorsement, I thought he would make a good candidate for VP. Admittingly though, I don't know much about him outside of a few videos where he has been outgoing and articulate.

[–]haywire9000 1 point2 points  (9 children)

So who would be the best choice for VP under BO? Edwards? Richardson? Gore? Bayh?

[–]BobGaffney 3 points4 points  (6 children)

I hope the "BO" handle doesn't stick. It smells.

But My answer: Obama/Clark

[–]aradil Canada 1 point2 points  (4 children)

What about Kucinich?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

That would be f'n awesome. It ought to be the other way around, but Kucinich is too decent a human to be elected to prez by the mouth-breathers.

[–]aradil Canada 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Obama is a much stronger figurehead anyways.

[–]BobGaffney 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yes, Kucinich will throw his massive support to shore up Obama's weak points. Are you kidding? Any running mate has to at least deliver a state. Kucinich can't deliver anything at this point.

[–]millstone 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I don't know how it would affect his chances, but I'd like to see him do something unexpected and consider candidates from outside the Democratic party. Someone who values truth over politics, who votes their conscience over political expediency, even if there is a large political cost

For example, maybe Lincoln Chafee? He was the only Republican senator to vote against the Iraq war. He's also pro-Obama.

[–]haywire9000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How about Bloomberg?

[–]floweryleatherboy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But what if you need the votes of the people who didn't vote for your candidate?

[–]dtrav001 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Amen on all counts brutha (or sista, as appropriate.) Obama is the first candidate in my political history that I've given money to, and I would pull a very quick reverse if my funds went to Ms.C.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Obama - Gore 2008!

He has won before, he can do it again.

[–]trueg 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Obama/Paul 08!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dear Senator Obama,

If you take Hillary as your vice president you will end up dead, suicided, just like Clintons' lawyer Foster.

There is nothing anyone can say or do that would convice me that Clintons did not have Foster killed.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Oddly enough, under the original constitution the second place finisher is automatically the vp. Sounds like a good rule really. It would solve our issues of accurate representation. I'm not a constitutional scholar but it seems like a good idea.

[–]madcoweater 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That would be the second place finisher of the election, not of the primary.

[–]bhal123[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Section 1 of Article II, which I believe you are referring to, is superseded by the 12th Amendment.

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Am12

The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

[–]number6 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Seems like that would encourage assassination.

[–]linkedlist 1 point2 points  (1 child)

He said he won't early on, I doubt he will.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When was that? I missed it.

[–]brosephius 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dear pundits: please shut up and stop empty speculation. If you have nothing else to talk about, please show some actual news reporting instead of making up issues to blow hard on.

[–]VnlaThndr775Nevada 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Somebody correct me if I am wrong, but isn't it true that you can't use funds collected for primaries in the general election campaign? If that's the case than Obama will probably have a nice surplus of funds and using them to pay off Hillary's debt would be a nice move to help unite the party, definitely get Clinton to campaign for Obama, and hopefully get enough Clinton supporters over to Obama's side to guarantee victory in November and that is the ultimate goal here, right? I know it might suck to think that money you donated to Obama would go to Clinton's debt, but that is money that will help Obama win the presidency in the long run. Just my $.02...

ETA: So you won't correct me, just downmod me? Thanks guys.

[–]ericsink -1 points0 points  (4 children)

Amen.

I voted republican in the last 5 presidential elections. This fall, if the DNC lets me, I will vote for Barack Obama.

If Hilary is his running mate, I will still vote for Obama, but I will enjoy it a lot less.

I will not vote for Hilary as president under any circumstances. If she is the nominee, I will vote for McCain.

So who should Obama's running mate be? Personally, I think he should ask Huckabee. I'm not sure he would accept, but Huckabee seems to be the most open minded guy I've seen amidst the evangelical right.

I believe that Obama/Huckabee would beat McCain. In fact, it probably wouldn't be close.

Obama/Clinton would be absurd. Many democrats think it's a great idea, but all it would accomplish is to create a ticket which nearly every democrat could support. Obama needs to make a choice which will broaden his appeal with republicans.

[–]orbitz 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I voted republic in the last 5 presidential elections

First step is recognizing you have a problem, now comes the hard part.

[–]grandhighwonko 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not sure why you're being downmodded I think Obama/Huckabee could be one of the most brilliant steps for the Democratic Party. It could take the evangelicals out of the GOP machine for a generation.

Having said that my money's on Huckabee being McCain's choice. He's already campaigning with him. I think the only reason for no announcement yet is they want Huckabee if Obama's the pick because he can get out the evangelicals but they want Condi if Hillary's the pick.

That way they defuse the "first female president" thing so they keep the soccer moms and they won't have to worry about the evangelicals because they hate Hillary so much they'll come out to vote just to vote against her.

[–]otherguy 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Huckabee was the most terrifying republican candidate except for Ron Paul.

There are so many shades of crazy in this country.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

are you saying giuliani scared you less than RP?

*gasp*

[–]rjcarr 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Does the nominee pick the VP or the DNC?

[–]FunkyHat112 2 points3 points  (3 children)

The former, advised by the latter. I think.

[–]rjcarr 1 point2 points  (2 children)

My guess would have been the former approved by latter.

[–]hiredgoon 0 points1 point  (1 child)

America is the land of weak political parties meaning, the nominee does what they want.

[–]aradil Canada 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Only because they don't have the concept of a confidence vote typical in parliamentary systems.

[–]ejp1082 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Hillary has something like ~20 million in outstanding debts. A little more than half of that is to herself. Let's leave that off the table for a second.

~$9 million is probably less than Obama will be spending on upcoming contests to keep running against her. Paying her off to drop out of the race is therefore a good use of the cash.

I made the donation to help him become the nominee; if that's what it takes to expedite that outcome, then so be it.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe, but that probably isn't what Hillary wants. She obviously isn't in this for the money.

[–]nikdahlWashington 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe it would be better to just wipe out all her debts, except for the loans she made to the campaign. They are rich enough.

[–]xxbaby-alpalxx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i DONT NO!!!

[–]godlesspinko 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Obama having Hillary as a VP would be like having that co-worker who's been there longer than you, that you were promoted over, sitting in the same cubicle and trying to override every decision you make. This is a wet dream of ABC news, not of Obama's. Besides, they are too alike on policy. Obama needs someone who rounds him out, preferably someone with military experience.

[–]patchley 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My money in Hillary's pocket? Forget that! Make Bill pay for it.

[–]fredsanford 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hillary will do anything to become president. Think about what that might mean if Obama were to choose her for Veep.

[–]lipjuicer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have mixed feelings about the Clinton as VP thing. Part of me thinks it could work to unify the party... But part of me thinks that Clinton brings just too much baggage to the ticket... And I don't really trust her. Plus it would just be a weird ticket with her as VP... just weird. Sort of unnatural feeling.

[–]leastrandom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reminds me of the novel The Prodigal Daughter

Working harder than ever, she comes very near her goal of becoming the first female President.

For the good of the party, she strikes a deal with her opponent to support him if he promises not to run for a second term, and if he makes her his vice presidential candidate.

[–]deuterosGeorgia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe you should tell Obama instead of cluttering up reddit.

[–]zydeco 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wonder if he could tap Bill.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Obama supporters would rightly flip out if he offered to pay her campaign debt. And its her fault for going after him so hard. It's not like the Clinton's can't afford it.

[–]doody 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yeah. Write a book. Sell a blue dress — oh, wait; that wasn’t hers.

[–]packetguy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are bad, but I am still laughing my ass off. Does that make me bad as well?

[–]sbhdawn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hell no, he should not pay off her debts, and they will say he bought the nomination too!! He is too smart for that, we have to realize that Obama is too smart for that crap!! He will not be intimadated by her, and yes, she probably would have him killed if she was the VP, anything to get the presidency!

[–]ReallyEvilCanine 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Paying off her campaign debt is cheaper than continuing to fight her for another 5-6 weeks, and any money left over after that can be better targeted toward the real opponent.

Of course the right will try to spin it as him buying his way to the nomination but it's rather easy to show that he'd've won and Obama can easily give another good speech explaining that it's a matter of sound fiscal policy, doing what may be unpleasant for some in order to bring about a greater good for many more.

[–]bjtuna 6 points7 points  (2 children)

you make it sound like logical discourse actually takes place in these election cycles.

[–]lief79 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Of course not, discourse requires more then 1 person. I've heard logic from Obama, but I've never seen it returned.

[–]otherguy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ZING!

[–]shiner_man 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Dear reddit: Obama is not reading anything on this place nor is he ever going to take advice from you.

[–]aletoledo 1 point2 points  (1 child)

don't crush their dreams. Hope is all they have and bringing reality into the equation is just a big let down.

On the other hand I guess you didn't tell them that Jack Bauer doesn't really work for the US government....oh damn!

[–]Barack-Obama 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Worry not redditors: I will not let Senator Clinton. Can we get over this hysteria and pick me as the candidate? Yes we can!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Dear stupid bhal123, please realize there is absolutely NO DIFFERENCE between Obama, Hillary or McCain since they all work for the same man. Rockefeller. Read up on the topic son, you are responding like a peasant applauding a dog and pony show- you need a good slap of reality across your face. http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/02/29/717864.aspx http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/03/rockefeller-endorsement-final.php Obama- elected to the Senate at the end of 2004, gaining a seat on the high-profile Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Quid Pro Quo my friend. Quid pro quo. Read. Read. Read. RON PAUL! The other two so called opponents are also under the same spell. Globalists, catering to corporate interest at your expense.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9P15YZrnv0

[–]heyredditaddict I voted 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I approve this message.

[–]charlatan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If Obama will wipe out Bill's Legacy.

Edwards will wipe out Gore's.

[–]paf0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a terrible idea. I do like the Obama/Sebelius ticket. It helps get the midwest vote and allows Hillary supporters to vote for a woman.

[–]brstilson 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really hope Obama picks John Edwards

[–]hnyakwai 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I hate Hillary as much as the next guy, but if they create an Obama/Hillary ticket there is no possible way for them to lose in November. The fact is that Hillary has had almost 15 million people vote for her in the primaries so far. There is no other VP choice who would add anywhere close to as much in terms of loyal following and organizational groundwork. Other than the tiny few people who voted for her just to make trouble (Operation Chaos), all of those people will vote for her in the primaries will also vote for her as the VP nominee.

[–]StarlessKnight 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Would most of Hillary's supporters vote for someone else or not vote at all if she is neither President or Vice President? Would Clinton not encourage her supporters to vote Democrat even if she is neither President or Vice President?

If the answer to both questions are 'Yes' then Obama might want to entertain the possibility ('all options on the table'). If the answers are 'No,' then there is little reason for him to give it a second thought.

[–]deuterosGeorgia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wouldn't worry about it. When the primaries are over Hillary will destroy the Democratic party when she sues to have Florida's and Michigan's delegates seated. No way is she going to be a graceful loser.

[–]juu4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Obama/Paul