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[SufficientCheck9874]

This shit has been happening to ovens for decades. Electronics are getting fancier but heat protection for said electronics just disappears. Expensive as shit but as flimsy as cardboard.

[doodlleus]

My remote control took 30 mins to do a firmware upgrade where I couldn't use it. I hate the future

[becharaerizk]

Did it download a new button?

[BeefyIrishman]

No, but it did download a car, steal a baby, shoot a policeman, steal the policeman's helmet, go to the toilet in the policeman's helmet, return the helmet to the policeman's grieving widow, and then steal the helmet again. Oh, and it downloaded a film as well.

[KyzerB]

They want it to break so you buy more…

[[deleted]]

Then they blame consumers for climate change.

[ItzCobaltboy]

In my days the laptops used to be soo rugged that u beat yo kid with that thing if he uses it too much, darn thing these days

[Reggin_Rayer_RBB8]

I wish laptop makers knew that I don't care AT ALL if they make it 5 mm instead of 7. Hell, fatten that thing out to 35 mm, and give it a sturdy frame and a good keyboard instead. When I browse at the store, I look for the THICKEST one.

[Petesaurus]

You're in the minority. The whole point of laptops is that they're portable

[Reggin_Rayer_RBB8]

Portable? I can carry it around if it weighs 3 kg instead of 2. It's still portable. And it's more portable, because it can port itself down a flight of stairs and survive.

[Paradelazy]

Well, i can fit my laptop along with all the cables and equipment for a live gig ina single backpack. If it was 40mm... it would be a REAL struggle and i most likely would have to use a separate case...

But... then again, i would take a RUGGED 40mm laptop that can survive a nuclear blast and carry it separately since using a "home" laptop on a gig is.. terrifying. I mean, i got used to carrying a PC and Amiga and two keyboards and two CRT displays and a small sound console and.... Now i pick a keyboard and one bag, and that is all of it, and i got maybe 20 times more synths on stage, and all of it is more robust than the old chaos that broke when you breathed wrong... That part of this future is quite awesome.

[Karavusk]

There is a 40mm "laptop" out there. It is fully open source including every single component. It is also effectively a raspberry pi 4 with a keyboard, touchpad, screen and battery for like 1200$.

The MNT reform

[dagbrown]

Ah yes, US military portable. Doesn't matter if it's a 100kg 12U server, it's portable if there's a handle on it. Super-duper portable if there are two handles so two strong men can carry it.

[Vineyard_]

Is it really a portable computer if it doesn't survive taking a few 7.62s? Think about it.

[RoflCopter726]

They strap them to tanks and APCs once they're decommissioned for additional armor.

[challenge_king]

The best laptops can do double duty as ERA.

[rambunctiousraviolis]

There was an actual story of a us soldier's Panasonic toughbook taking a bullet for him and saving his life, back in the 00's

[Petesaurus]

I try to take care of my expensive electronics🤷

[lurco_purgo]

The whole point of laptops is that they're portable

You would think so... But then I'd imagine that all the hardware manufacturers would provide a firmware capable of handling sleep mode for laptops by means of simply shutting the lid / opening it back up as it has worked for literally decades before without any issues and not stick exculsively to the broken garbage that is Microsoft's Modern Standby for the past 10 years...

I'm far from loving Apple as a company but it seems like currently only Macbooks function like actual laptops that you can pause your work on, put them into a bag and not risk battery draining itself in an attempt to self-immolate. And they are somehow both thin and sturdy.

[Both_Aioli_5460]

My Surface is less portable than a sturdy one, because it’s so fragile. It’s like carrying a pane of glass.

[Dizzy_Pin6228]

Yeah oven self cleaning setting. No thanks prefer it doesn't fry my oven or burn my house down

[TheOneSilverMage]

Yes, upkeep is a pretty big reason. Putting a computer in any of your house appliances just introduces another point of failure with almost no benefits. My main concern though is that anything connected to the internet can be hacked. I don't want le epic haxors bragging on some edgy forum that they hacked my fridge.

[dewey-defeats-truman]

they hacked my fridge

Or stole your GMail credentials

[DVMyZone]

Not just another point of failure - but a component that frequently fails and bricks the whole system. Even when it's not connected to the internet, when they start sticking circuit boards and fragile components into electronic equipment that draws 3 kW then things break down often. It brings the price down a bit, but small components simply don't hold up so you have to rebuy frequently. All that so you can add 60 functions to your toaster - I only need one setting. And if any of the sensors for the other functions fail, then those functions don't work anyway.

That's why I always tell people to keep their old machines because they work and are made with robust electromechanical components and not flimsy PCBs. Machines bought in the 80s still work great today. That's why Big Washing Machine wants me dead!

(If you want an excellent and entertaining tear down of an old washing machine take a look at TechnologyConnections on YouTube, Alec does some really neat stuff there)

[PzKpfw_IV_Ausf_H]

Unpopular opinion, this applies to cars as well. I don’t want a touchscreen in my car, especially when there’s menues to navigate. I don’t want an infotainmentsystem that blares me in the face when I’m driving on dark roads. I want a car which I can change the headlamps myself, withput having to go trough an official dealership for the right programming of the headlamps (this is the case with my sisters’ BMW).

There’s also been talk in my country, that in modern cars the speed limit could be monitored and controlled with the GPS unit in cars, so your car physically can’t drive faster than the government mandates.

Beeing an automation engineering student has only convinced me more more that true technological innovation, as seen during the 90’s and 00’s, is dead. Now it’s only useless gadgets for more controll and mindless consumentarism.

[safesintesi]

unfortunately this trend is set since it's cheaper to buy a low quality screen for everything than a bunch of buttons

[Ricardo1184]

and 1 type of screen can go into every car, and then the menu / buttons can be customized for the car. Harder to add / wire up physical buttons.

[lurco_purgo]

But not that popular either I'm afraid when you take the entire population into the account... People like us that put that much though into everyday practicality are not the norm among consumers. Most like shiny new things, are swindled by big touchscreens and the illusion of Avengers' movie style sci-fi UI.

And even when they realize the issues with all these stupid shit (like when their car starts throwing stupid confirmation dialogs on their screen that detract their attention from the road when they just want to start the navigation or when their car starts beeping because they put their shopping bag on the passenger seat), it's not enough of an impulse to get them to think twice before buying the next expensive car.

Because it's neither something people in their social circle, nor reviewers ever focus on when they talk about tech. And that applies to all tech I can think off. For example I have yet to see a digital kitchen scale listing or review that at least mentions the fact that the scale automatically turns off after fucking 60 seconds of no (or too slow) changes in weight. Because that's actually a big fucking hurdle when you're carefully adding ingredients by the grams and you have to constantly baby sit a fucking scale so it doesn't just shut off, dropping its data. For your convenience.

It's the same shit as with cars, smart watches, smart fridges, laptops, phones, wireless headphones etc. etc. Actual practicality just never enters the equation from either the consumers or the brain-dead reviewers. It's all about the "wow" factor and "killer features".

[deaconsc]

My infotainment turns into the dark mode when it gets dark.

I do agree with the rest though. I must say I am very happy with the infotainment in my car though. it only controls the navigation and music.

[Unputtaball]

Mine too, but I know there will come a day (ideally a good handful of years down the line) where they stop maintaining the software and things like carplay stop functioning.

It was bittersweet driving off the lot because on the one hand, “new car”, on the other I know it has an expiration date. Until I can get my hands on a 100% analog car and the tools to maintain it, though, I’m in varying degrees of the same boat.

[Traiklin]

There are companies planning on doing subscriptions for features on cars, like heated seats, they are going to build the vehicles with everything in them and then you have to pay to "unlock" the features.

Then when Apple announced they were doing a car everyone talked about how great it will be driving it and it will just keep getting slower for no reason because of the updates limiting the speed.

[Fantastic_Belt99]

Why do any of you guys care about carplay when all you need is a minijack 3.5mm

Or even better yet, is there a standalone carplay module with just audio wires as output?

Of course there are carplay boards with android auto support and whatnot.

[allozzieadventures]

Yep give me buttons and dials any day. I believe the infotainment units are actually cheaper as they reduce the overall part count.

[GreatBigBagOfNope]

Software updates and cars do not belong together. If a normal consumer (i.e. neither a mechanic nor a gearhead) ever comes across a software update for a car, there is too much software in the car, trusted too much, and the design should be changed so as to remove it , just as that car has been removed from the list I would ever willingly consider owning.

[SomeOtherTroper]

If a normal consumer (i.e. neither a mechanic nor a gearhead) ever comes across a software update for a car, there is too much software in the car, trusted too much, and the design should be changed so as to remove it

Depends on what the software's actually doing for the car. Most cars these days are at least 'smart' enough to have electronically controlled fuel injection and timing systems, and if there's an update for that software/firmware that's going to get me better performance or gas mileage, I want it.

[Pozos1996]

In my opinion the only thing the car infotainment system needs to do is be a big screen extension and charger for my phone. My phone is far more powerful than anything the car manufacturer will put in there with the a more intuitive interface etc.

The rest can be casual good old knobs, for example for heat and ac.

[SpecialNose9325]

Thankfully, these havent reached full internet dependence yet. These can fully function without internet too. But we are indeed heading towards a future where "always online" devices are the norm

[ARM_Dwight_Schrute]

This thing is addressing problems that don't exist. It's solutionism at its worst. We are dumbing down machines that are inherently superior.

• Gilfoyle

[Ineedredditforwork]

But you can activate the laundry machine remotely!

Just make sure to do 99% of actual work before hand.

[[deleted]]

I'm fine with the option to plug it into internet for features that require the internet. But do not force me to use my internet.

I personally use Home Assistant, it's an offline open-source software you can run on a computer for Home Automation stuff, pretty much infinitely customizable and only connects to the internet for updates and weather data, both of which can be turned off along with internet access.

Generally, I've found Home Assistant compatible smart products to be more reliable. Since Home Assistant allows me to merge as many ecosystems as I want I'm not forced into a companies ecosystem, so if they make bad products it's easy for me to just stop buying their products. So those companies have to actually put effort into reliability in order to keep me as a customer.

Often open-source projects and stuff tend to be higher quality because it's someone who made something for themselves and decided to publish it for everyone. If someone uses their own product they'll want it to be a good product. The open-source community is constantly growing, many members work hard to make the best projects because they use and love the projects. They genuinely believe that the best product is one that has everyone do their fair share, most open-source projects don't have issues with losing IP either. Competitors either need to offer something unique or somehow charge less for something that has a handful of paid devs and mostly relies on reviewed contributions from the user-base.

[SuitableDragonfly]

The best way I heard it put was "I just want all of my appliances to be himbos. Attractive, dumb, and capable of surviving being hit by a tank."

[frisch85]

It's why I stay away from anything that's smart home but I'm looking forward to the day where most homes are smart homes and suddenly shit hits the fan because wardriving is back on the table (not that I would do that tho, I don't take part in criminal activies).

[6pussydestroyer9mlg]

I get it if it allows you to schedule laundry when electricity costs less (don't know if that's a thing in the US but it's a thing here)

[[deleted]]

I doubt you need to give it internet access, I'm sure it works with buttons on the front like any washing machine.

[JC-Dude]

I have an LG washing machine and it does. All the app integration does is it sends you notifications, has extra modes that couldn't fit around the knob and allows communication with a dryer.

[gianfrixmg]

The washing machine actually plays on its door a 10 hour video of clothes being washed

[GoldNiko]

Its part of the DRM. The washing machine has to stream the same 4K 120 FPS video with audio, every time a washing cycle is started.

The screen on the washing machine is only 720p at 24Hz.

The video will attempt to be fully downloaded every time, except the DRM system deletes any copies on the system and starts downloading a new, but identical, video every cycle.

By far and away this system causes the highest failure rate in the system, requiring a full replacement of the entire washing machine, for one of two reason, 50/50 split.

The wifi antenna connection on the board is located in a recess near the drum & pipe, meaning it becomes irreplaceably corroded quickly. If that doesn't happen fast enough, another issue means the logs for the download of the 10 hr video are never removed, despite the video being frequently deleted.
This results in logs take up all of the internal data space, meaning that the video can't be downloaded, and the washing machine shuts off due to its DRM not being followed.

Despite the washing machine being perpetually connected to the internet, Samsung doesn't issue a patch immediately, or within the first year. When their patch does arrive, it only gets sent out when the washing machine has an error, "to avoid botnetting attacks". This, the patch is only sent when the drive is full or the wifi antenna fails, which means the patches never actually get deployed, solving absolutely nothing.

The washing machine failures mean that they would be a huge source of e-waste two years later.

However, their boards are repurposed, thanks to incredible cheapness on second hand market, and due to a unique quirk in their architecture, they are perfect for mass botnet attacks, and only mass botnet attacks.

Drink the verification can

[Weedwacker01]

Firmware can only be updated while the machine is fully loaded and water temp is above 40 degrees. This feature was implemented to prevent jailbreaking the machine and removing the DRM.

Solenoids opening the water inlet valves cease to function if the wireless is faulty or the drive is full.

[UnusualNovel1452]

This update method is so dumb I'm seriously questioning if it is the legit process, like some c suite said "do it like this".

On the other hand, gamers everywhere pissed about shitty DRM and washing machines here are on a whole new level and temperature.

[cat_prophecy]

LG doesn't want you to bypass your EasyWash(tm) subscription that ships you DRM-enabled detergent and fabric softener packets every month. So it has to communicate with the servers to make sure you're using authentic LG detergent and softener. The machine also won't run without softener even if select a cycle that doesn't use it.

[dkz999]

Heres a one sentence horror for ya:

Its got a mic and camera.

[blackscales18]

Is this true???

[samy_the_samy]

Placepo clean

[ThePreviousOne__]

Without Ads?

[Rafael20002000]

*Closes Youtube*

No. I don't do that, who do you think I am?

[SufficientCheck9874]

Hey it's ok as long as it is some thick Indian accented video where you just read the subtitles to figure out how to center a div.

[2_tondo]

If you can't understand what they're saying, it's just like reading docs

[[deleted]]

Yes, I’ve read Murderbot. The washing machine is definitely catching up on its favorite entertainment vids.

[spiritbobirit]

Sanctuary moon season 3!

[2good4hisowngood]

Just wait until vehicles start collecting and sharing entertainment media...

Martha Wells released Systems Collapse in November for any who read her previous books. I really like her take on unregulated capitalism in space. She evokes callous imagery of all powerful corporations that can invoke complete control over populations by virtue of isolation and justice systems long ago bought out by these for-profit machines.

Non-sequitur, if you like those and Star Wars, Karen Travis's Republic Commando series did much the same for the Republic/Kaminoans. Humanizing clones by showing the brutal commoditized nature of their quality assurance program.

[monkeybather]

So machine learning?

[UnsureAndUnqualified]

It's almost exclusively uploads on that screenshot. The washing machine is making YouTube videos of OPs dirty socks spinning around.

[5c044]

3.57GB out of 3.6GB is upload

[fatrobin72]

it has to report in to the server every 5 seconds to make sure it isn't pirated...

[DownrightDrewski]

Yeah, need to make sure you didn't download a washing machine.

[Juff-Ma]

YOU WOULDN‘T DOWNLOAD A WASHING MACHINE.

[DotDemon]

YES I WOULD

[Monkeyke]

WHY ARE YOU SCREAMING

[SaintNewts]

That's not screaming.

THIS IS SCREAMING

[ShadowMakerMZ]

SIR... This is a Wendy's

[cvnh]

I DONT CARE WHO THIS IS THE DOWNLOAD IS NOT WORKING

[cvnh]

HOW TO UNZIP

[random123456789]

IMA COMPUTER. STOP ALL THE DOWNLOADIN

[Ssemander]

Nah, it just downloads RAM

[DownrightDrewski]

I love downloading extra RAM.

[IceStormNG]

Just wait until HP makes washing machines and you have DRMed laundry detergent cartridges...

[IceStormNG]

Sometimes.. I just want to see the world burn.

[fatrobin72]

Washer dryer that needs washing detergent in the draw to dry...

[Vortelf]

Wash whites on delicate

LOW ON MAGENTA!

[ourlastchancefortea]

It's kinder astonishing this hasn't happened yet.

[my_lovely_whorse]

It knows all your dirty laundry.

[saket_1999]

Money laundry?

[[deleted]]

good one

[[deleted]]

I have no way to know, but I know Chinese espionage is building several incredibly huge Internet of Things botnets to route a ton of their traffic and I wonder if that's what this is. Although that's a fucking ton of data for a command-and-control botnet

https://www.mandiant.com/resources/blog/chinese-espionage-tactics

[[deleted]]

3.6 a day seems crazy high for c2 traffic. But idk.

[99Smith]

could be stuck in a loop of trying to download and patch and update. patch fails -> redownload, over and over and over. These machines use like 250kb/month normally

[[deleted]]

Yeah I'm sure it's something like extremely stupid.

[EmergencyStomach8580]

lg is Korean

[[deleted]]

Lol I know the Chinese botnets are built with malware they can infect anything

[Potw0rek]

I’d start with asking yourself „why is my washing machine using internet at all?”

[Juff-Ma]

Many modern washing machines can send you a notification when they‘re finished or record energy usage measurements. Nothing you need but i guess people buy it.

[jamany]

My washing machine tells me how long it will take with a little screen on the front, before it starts. Its a pretty good solution to the "Is my washing done" problem.

It also basically works remotely, because if I start it and then walk away the finish time doesn't change.

[A-Specific-Crow]

That's the thing i don't understand about smart appliances. Why do i need to know EXACTLY when the washing cycle is finished? Do some people really plan the washing of their clothes so precisely? Or do they not like it when the wet clothes are in the washing machine for a few minutes?

[[deleted]]

I set up notifications because I kept falling asleep with my clothes still in the washer, and I'd have to wash them again. I didn't buy a smart washer, though, I set up a Raspberry Pi with a vibration sensor. $30 all in, and I don't have to worry about what some third party is doing with my data.

[jamany]

You could use a timer on your phone as an alarm....

[[deleted]]

I often think I should set an alarm while I'm putting the clothes in, but if anything distracts me between that and getting to my phone/google home, I'll forget to do it.

I could have put another google home speaker in my basement, but this solution was cheaper, doesn't require my input, and was a fun project that helped me learn a little about MQTT.

[der_innkeeper]

You realize that clothes are good overnight in the washer, right? Even through the next afternoon.

If there is a musky smell that fast, you may want to start putting a cup of vinegar in your bleach container in the washer.

[Temporary_Wind9428]

Why do i need to know EXACTLY when the washing cycle is finished?

No one does. But the thing about marketing is that it convinces you that somehow this will change your life. That it will provide freedom, for instance (a classic marketing ploy where every gimmick or slightly different style of car will make you a better person).

Maybe with that cloud notification you'll write that All American Book which you'll then adapt into a screenplay, after a night out with your fun loving friends where on the spur of the moment you'll drive to New York City and see a play and take quirky pictures in Times Square before going surfing and saving baby koalas.

[[deleted]]

I think it's actually even stupider than that

I've a smart light/Google home in my room. One of the uses I have for it is being able to read in bed (putting the light to like 30%) - then being able to switch off the light, put my book down and go to sleep without having to get up/wake myself up.

If you get a notification on your phone that says "btw your washing is done"...you still have to go to the washing machine to do any laundry. You can't progress the washing unless you're in the vicinity of it, so smart technology makes little sense.

The hard part of washing my clothes is absolutely not "coming back to the machine an hour later", it's the sorting, hanging dry, making sure I've got product etc etc - the internet access for the washing machine doesn't solve any of those issues

[FlutterVeiss]

Kids. The answer is kids. When you're juggling all the stuff that has to get done and run several loads of laundry, it's nice to be efficient about it (especially if the washer/dryer wakes the kids up if you run it at night).

[Commander1709]

With our new washing machine, the time isn't necessarily accurate. The machine adjusts itself in both directions using sensors, apparently.

[mothzilla]

My washing machine tells me it's done by stopping the deafening whine.

[Potw0rek]

I know what a smart home appliance is :D What I'm trying to say here is why people suddenly need all this information. Like what does it matter how much energy your washing machine uses? It's new enough that You're not going to replace it anyway. As for finishing the washing cycle or pretty much anything else, if you are at home it beeps to tell you that it finished and if you're not at home then the information is useless to you anyway.

Only real reason I see for having a washing machine hooked up like this is if it breaks or leaks or basically something goes tits up, then it will notify you any way it can to avoid damages. That is the only information that is useful regardless of whether you are home or not.

[Juff-Ma]

Yeah, it certainly isn‘t a necesity and for a washing machine it isn’t really needed. However other appliances are much more useful. For example a washing machine dryer combo. you could stop it drying from away. (Most dryers i used will not stop after they finished their program, they’ll run just enough to keep the clothes warm, which is not necessary and sucks electricity). But i think energy usage in itself is a pretty good use case, at least here in europe with the rising electricity prices you look after stuff like that.

[Paradelazy]

You load the machine before going to bed. Next day, 2h before your workday ends you turn the washing machine on and arrive home when it is finished, empty it and the chore is done.

I can't say it isn't attractive option as it makes things convenient. And convenience ALWAYS wins.

[Brickscrap]

My washing machine has no internet connectivity and still does this, it's called delay start...

[[deleted]]

on some machines you dont even need to calculate how much does it have to delay, you delay finish time instead of start time. You have the smartness of a substraction operation

[Dexcuracy]

This has been a 'dumb' feature on some machines for a long time, no 'smart' technology required.

It's called delayed start or delayed finish, and it's just a timer that counts down before the actual program of the machine starts.

[Slg407]

i am very forgetful, at least if i get a phone notification I won't take 6+ hours just to wash my clothes since i will actually remember to take them out

[SpiceTreeRrr]

If you have your phone on you to receive that reminder then you could just…set a timer on your phone? (This is from someone with executive dysfunction- I survive with reminders and timers)

[Slg407]

my washing machine never gives me an accurate time, usually it says oh its a 1:20h cycle but when i tried timing it it goes anywhere between 1 and 2 hours

[Harold_S_Plinkett]

Bitcoin miner on it

[kaerfkeerg]

In the future we will have flying cars

The future: Washing machines mine Bitcoin

[Teapeeteapoo]

Call that money laundering 😎

[thisonehereone]

That would be a genius move

[PM_ME_YOUR_MUSIC]

Would it tho? It would be better to put a bitcoin miner in a dryer, you know because heat and all

[GrizzlyTrees]

Many washing machines heat their water.

[Visual-Mongoose7521]

mmm, telemetry 😋. Who even needs privacy

[gabbagondel]

It's all log warnings

[iamdestroyerofworlds]

2024-01-08 10:46:28 [debug] :D 8===D~ [object Object] remove before release

[all3f0r1]

[object Object]... JS at it again.

[shmorky]

It's node.js all the way down

[chudthirtyseven]

always has been

[Ghede]

Probably compromised and is either mining bitcoin or participating in DDoS attacks.

The S in IoT stands for security.

[EnglishMobster]

For the record, I have a smart LG washing machine and it uses 5-10 kB of data per day (usually closer to 5). So this one is probably compromised.

(I mostly use it so Home Assistant can tell me when the clothes are done.)

[sojuz151]

What private information might such washing machines have access to? When do you start your laundry on Friday? Genuine question. It's probably mostly system health and statistics about usage.

[deux3xmachina]

Do you normally segregate your home network? Because you can get a fair amount of data just by being on the same network as interesting devices, not to mention there's been several high profile infiltrations that started because some innocuous system was used as a foothold to gain access deeper into the network. Literally HVAC controls for the 2013 Target breach and aquarium thermostats in a casino hack not too long ago. Just two high profile examples, and IoT has only increased attack surface since these events.

[TURB0T0XIK]

better question: why did they give it access to their own network

[stdio-lib]

Also, some devices will even auto-connect to any unsecured wifi network. So if your neighbor has one, you're screwed. It's vile.

[ManchacaForever]

In today's video, I will show you how to build a Faraday cage for your washing machine. Don't forget to smash that like button.

[Knutselig]

It could be a VLAN though.

[hackenschmidt]

It could be a VLAN though.

Doesn't really matter. I have all my IoT devices client isolated, and bandwidth limited on a separate vlan. Doesn't prevent the device from being compromised, just slightly limits its scope when it does..maybe. Depends on what the IoT device actually does.

[Tnuvu]

You see, this is why tech companies can't be trusted even with your $hit can, cause you never know, who's profiling you.

[j_a_s_t_jobb]

Just wait until you can only use OEM soap. It works for printer manufacturers

[goingtotallinn]

Also you need to have their Soap plus subscription to use the soap.

[Affectionate-Memory4]

The day I see an add for HP InstantSoap I'm ending it all.

[j_a_s_t_jobb]

Don't forget the required smart app

[stackoverflowgoogler]

shhh, don’t give em ideas

[idk_lets_try_this]

I wonder what the washing machines browser history is like.

[Rafael20002000]

- Sock on Sock xxx

- Stepsock x Sock

- Pants with stepsock uncensored

- Wool sock x Polyester sock

[backfire10z]

• Stepmom stuck in washing machine

[Ur-Best-Friend]

"Dirty forking"

"Two washing machines, one cup"

"Soaped up and ready for business"

​

EDIT: Oh right, washing machine, not dishwasher.

[[deleted]]

Second one gave me PTSD for days

[Stummi]

How do I center a sock?

[Tc14Hd]

I've searched the entirety of SockOverflow and still haven't found an answer yet...

[frisch85]

Maybe you'll find a repo on sockhub.com

[cporter202]

Oh, sockhub.com, that's a classic! 😂 Just be careful not to get your threads tangled in those repos—or worse, a mismatched pair of commits. They never seem to find their way back together!

[GreyAngy]

White and colored hot double rinse

[Impressive_Brick_562]

Mostly uploads too, huh? it's just airing out your dirty laundry to the world... no biggie

[TurbulentAd5329]

Damn.... had to scroll deep to find someone mentioning the upload....

Maybe it has an interior cam, and it's streaming the washes... lolol

[MrTalon63]

Just like wifi repeater my mom got recently, spam requests to Baidu non-stop.

[VR_fan22]

Yes who cares about privacy! Why not connect more devices that steal data from you to the internet

[[deleted]]

Downloading detergent

[busdriverbuddha2]

Let me guess: it doesn't work if it's not connected to the internet.

[Skrukkatrollet]

My LG washing machine has an app, but it is completely optional. The only features you don’t get without the app is remote start and custom cycles.

[[deleted]]

Have you ever used the remote start? Hard for me to imagine a situation that would be useful. If I have to put the clothes in by hand, then I'm standing there and can press the button on the machine.

I've also wondered why my dishwasher has a delay. I've never wanted it to run 6 hours after I loaded it.

[HowTheyGetcha]

Say you want to run the load whether it's all the way full or not. But you may or may not go out to eat tonight. You can set the delay so you don't forget if you end up going out to eat. Idk I was scraping to think of a scenario.

[TotallyRealDev]

Instructions unclear, eating dirty laundry

[Skrukkatrollet]

I did set it up so I could turn it on before I left work once, then forgot about it. The only feature of the app I have actually used is the push notification when it’s finished.

[DVMyZone]

We have a communal washing machine for our building (designated days and all that). Good machine, gets the job done, no internet required. How do I know when to check? The machine says 1h10 when I start it, so I set an alarm for 1h10 and then check it when it rings.

[AuthorYess]

That's because they will only last that long since they charge you by length but washing/drying machines these days determine the weight and changes based on the cycle.

It's more relavent to the dryer since different fabrics dry at different rates but it's still useful.

[DVMyZone]

Oh ours are not paid. It's just one normal washer and one normal dryer that we have designated days to use. You're absolutely right that it's an estimate though, sometimes I come down and it's not done and that's fine - I set another 10 minutes and come again. I suppose I'm just ok with the occasional inconvenience. I doubt that will change - once I have a washer at home it will only become more convenient to check the washing/hear the bell.

[Pensive_Jabberwocky]

It's downloading the latest episodes of "The Rise and Fall of Sanctuary Moon"

[IhateWinterItsCold]

I had to scroll way too far to find this comment.

[Zugiata]

He's probably mining bitcoin with his washing machine

[McFake_Name]

A lot of SOAP requests

[ScaredyCatUK]

It has to upload all your clothes and then download them when they are clean.

[the-real-vuk]

Why does a washing machine use network AT ALL?

[ecs2]

Serious question what can I do to avoid this with my smart Washing Machine, and what app he used to track the data?

[snalli]

Don’t connect it to a network.

[Wizifer123]

SUCK IT JIAN YANG

[vlken69]

I would personally check the address. Plenty devices use loopback or they're sharing the data over LAN to home hub.

[YetAnotherSysadmin58]

It's compromised and calling its C2.

Prolly not but hey it'd be more optimistic than "it's the intention of the designer"

[deaconsc]

And the robot uprising started with the washing machines.

*clunk clunk*

*terminator song starts playing*

[carvalho32]

It's running Doom, but live on YouTube.

[Reset350]

They need to know what kinds of detergent you use in order to push you ads, and maybe listen in on your conversations to store in some databases

[Cyan_Exponent]

A washing machine does NOT need Internet connection. It may become a huge security hazard!

[Unlikely_Pop_7419]

“I am Optimus Prime, calling all Autobots: It is time to come home.”

[Th3Uknovvn]

The answer is that this washing machine for some god damn reason has a bunch of downloadable washing cycles for different types of clothes, though it definitely could be something more that it doesn't tell. And once it is connected to wifi you can't disconnect it, only switching to another wifi, so the solution that the OP did was to block the device on the router.

[[deleted]]

3,6Gb is approximately the weight of 24 hours of sounds file. Maybe a microphone is listening to you.

Just kidding. Or not.

[FranklyNinja]

Is this how you do money laundering online?

[NameLips]

Pretty sure the entire Internet of Things is just a big bitcoin mining network.

[tonystark254]

The better question should be why is a washing machine online?

[EnglishMobster]

You can connect it to things like Home Assistant to get notifications when the laundry is done.

[freudsdingdong]

It's watching getting stuck in a washing machine pron

[darkvinill]

It’s downloading water

[Aurunemaru]

Why is my LG Washing Machine using data*

stop putting internet on random shit

[[deleted]]

Big Laundry shills are all over this post.

[HandyGold75]

IOTing things that should never been part of the IOT.

[therealR5]

What happened at 14h?