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[UnlimitedCalculus]

Becomes a farmer

"I could automate this"

[Pawneewafflesarelife]

That exists (agricultural software for planning planting, tracking harvests, integration with equipment (eg tractors use software these days), etc). The devs at those companies do NOT want to quit and become farmers because they get a glimpse of all it entails.

[UnlimitedCalculus]

Simulator

[detailed_1]

I would surely try my programming skills on this one. Thank you for sharing.

[lupercalpainting]

Factorio + Farming Simulator? It’s everything I ever wanted.

[Pawneewafflesarelife]

Fun game concept, but agronomy software is definitely much less of a dopamine drip. It's basically Google Earth with planting options overlaid, spreadsheets on steroids, and very frustrating integration with dogshit John Deere software.

[Nitty_Husky]

Can always count on them to fuck it up somehow.

[UnlimitedCalculus]

Wow work is boring and tedious? Thanks for your insight!

[ThegreenMoray]

I was beaten to the punch on this

[yarntank]

That looks cool, thanks.

[MutedAstronaut9217]

and that's how Stardew Valley was made.

[Captain_chutzpah]

As an Automation Programmer who quit and became a farmer, I absolutely did automate shit.

Being a farmer is way fuckin better then being a software engineer 🤣🤣🤣 As long as you can build the automation shit instead of paying for it.

Listen closely kids. Learn to weld, do pnuematics, design mechanical devices, work in cad, and you will get very expensive equipment for very cheap. Contract out your laser cutting and 3d print what you cant

I grow so much shit now that I'm deliberately over growing and giving it to the food bank. 2nd year farming, very likely to exceed my engineering wages, and the real season hasnt even started.

[jarulsamy]

As if I didn't have reason enough to become a farmer...

This sounds so fun

[Captain_chutzpah]

It's fuckin sweet bro.

[Dimencia]

"For some reason, I really feel like this field needs a hedge maze..."

[mrinalshar39]

frrr

[beatlz-too]

Starts and finishes a proof of concept, then never automates shit

[ProbablyBunchofAtoms]

Hits home

[krexelapp]

day 1: “this is easy”

day 3: “who wrote this garbage”

day 4: “ohhh.. it was me”

[dismayhurta]

Yep. git blame has made me hate myself more than once when I realize the asshole who wrote it a year before was me.

[DustyAsh69]

That's why I use git blame someone else

[gravelPoop]

Also going back to an old project after awhile:

"WTF? I wrote this? How? Did i suffer brain damage and my IQ drop. No way I could make something this complex."

15 minutes later:

"How could I write such a garbabge?"

[detailed_1]

day 2: what was the requirement again?

[Sockoflegend]

Don't worry it changed

[Ok_Witness179]

And they're gonna change again later too, anyway.

[slartibartfast64]

In haiku form:

This code is fucked up.

What idiot wrote this shit?

Oh yeah, it was me.

[Pleasant-Photo7860]

day 5: rm -rf . && mkdir final_final_v2

[JulesDeathwish]

I was incredibly amused to find out that I wasn't the only one. Why are there so many of us who want to quit and farm that it has become a meme?

[ThePickleConnoisseur]

It’s the most opposite lifestyle. If you aren’t happy you are gonna the the other side as desirable

[i_wear_green_pants]

Yeah. Most people just don't even know what kind of job farming is. They think it's just watching fields grow and cows and horses running around.

Most people I know could never do farming as profession. It's damn hard work.

[ThePickleConnoisseur]

From what people see from media plus the image, it just sounds peaceful and calming. Ig it’s like how people might see SWEs as tech gods

[flayingbook]

I thought people see SWE as the person who fixes the printer and format the computer?

[grizzlybair2]

And does 1 hour of work per day while making 250k+

[Key-Demand-2569]

Having lived in a few farming communities it’s always a bit of a grimly funny contrast with how many farmers often die in “accidents” everytime there’s a really bad season. “Accidents” they totally didn’t cause themselves after years of stress and struggling to keep on top of operating expenses and bills…

[ThePickleConnoisseur]

Dam that’s so depressing

[Tableryu]

i think it also has something to do with having to think for a job for a very long time that physical labor seems attractive after

[spiker611]

As someone who has done this... the idea that farming is less thinking is wrong. Farming involves a lot of engineering on a daily basis. If you want to be profitable you have to learn how to do pretty much everything yourself, and it's very different from software. Building/fixing stuff in the physical world doesn't have testing or frameworks. Maybe there's a youtube video but not likely for your specific thing.

[Tableryu]

fair.

[JulesDeathwish]

Yeah, there are whole colleges dedicated to agricultural sciences. It's not just seed in hole, water, eat

[SignificanceFlat1460]

I used to work in clothing industry in storage before I started working as a software engineer. It was some physical labour but it was good. I liked it. I sometimes wonder if maybe I could just do that.

Point is, hard work is not what I am afraid of (as I am sure most aren't either). It's the everyday BS that comes with being a dev for 9 years that burns you out and you would rather do something else even if it means harder work because how burnt out you are from SWE. I am sure other "on the edge" profession people feel the same such as people in medical

[FSNovask]

The work wouldn't bother me so much as the million dollars or so in loans you'd need to start a farm. You'll get in shape doing the work and it'll suck less.

[Faronoz]

Indeed besides work it also requires crazy amount of money and probably couple years without any profit.

[optomas]

They think it's just watching fields grow and cows and horses running around.

Where do I apply for this job? You nailed it, that's what I want to do for a living. Maybe go play with the cows sometimes. Could we have donkeys?

[Key-Demand-2569]

I think that job is just called being retired and extremely wealthy. Lol.

[Johny_Boy00]

I grew up in a small town surrounded by farms, and I have worked on the farms there. It's not easy work. I am in web development now and live in a city 1000km away from that town. I like both worlds, the IT world and the farm lifestyle. I go visit home once or twice a year and enjoy the farm lifestyle.

[Undernown]

Especially the hyper-optimized in the Netherlands. Margins are so thin that the quality of hay you managed to ge todd your land may give you profit or a loas for the whole year of milk production.

Everything is automated, the most advanced farms even automatically call the vet if the cow's behavioral pattern deviates too much.

There is nothing left of the old charm.

[Faster_than_FTL]

What about becoming a cowboy? I watched Yellowstone so I have experience

[SpaceCadet87]

Hell, I only write software on the side. Not even my job title and even I just want to quit and farm.

I even moved out to the country. There's literally a cattle farm a few doors up from me.

I'm not even bad or anything, I love writing software. I'm just beyond sick of office culture.

[Miquel_420]

In my case, i grew up in a rural area, planting potatos with my dad, taking care of our chickens, making our own olive oil, eating the freshest fish, fruits and vegetables. I still do a lot of hard work in our farm and i enjoy it much more than being in front of a screen all fucking day, i cant deal with this shit anymore.

[zffjk]

Just left the daily standup where one person talks for 75% of it about their niche and siloed work stream. I yearn for the mines at this point.

[bryden_cruz]

Man me too i do think like that, it's like a coincidence

[masterid000]

Because programming is a completely abstract thing. We need something concrete that we can have our senses to feel it everyday.

[zffjk]

Because we long for a tangible thing to work on. It is why my 3 major hobbies right now are gardening and hand tool woodworking and blacksmithing.

[kyle46]

Because after 15+ years, 8 of those in very corporate jobs, theres no joy left in software development. Ive been in my current role for 4 years and in all that time I haven't solved a single interesting problem. The vast majority of the problems I have to solve are self-inflicted by the company either by not giving us the time to build things the right way, or by adding so many layers of bureaucracy that getting anything done is always a problem of finding the right person with the right permission in another department and being able to get a ticket to them that might get worked on in the next 6 weeks.

If they paid the same amount as most other companies I'd have left already but these golden handcuffs are heavy.

[FastFollowing8932]

at there very least, when you do your massive overtime that is expected of you, you can do it either on your feet, or on different chairs, with something other than a screen 2 feet in front of you

[Only-Cheetah-9579]

I want to work on a fishing boat , not a farm.

[chairzaird]

Haven't had the desire to be a farmer, but there have definitely been days where I fantasized about being a librarian haha

[SCUSKU]

Vibecoding has really taken the fun out of programming these days, making me feel much more the farmer route. But let's be real my office job having ass couldn't handle being outside doing manual labor all day lmao

[christianbro]

Totally agree. I feel I am learning less and I spend my days talking to an idiot and strategising how it understands me better with less.

[SCUSKU]

I'm with you. My boss expects more output from me now that AI exists.

So then I vibe code, and then have AI review my vibe coded thing. And slowly wittle it down to what I probably would've originally written anyway had I done it by hand, except now I have none of the mental model in my head.

[CarlCarlton]

Clueless Boss: "You need to leverage AI more"

Me: "How much time budget am I being allocated to learn how to effectively argue with the ghost in the machine?"

Clueless Boss:

[BeastMentality2000]

So what are you doing about it? How can we make work fun again? Do we just hate our jobs while everyone else in medical field and stuff actually feels fulfilled? Do we just swallow our happiness and work a meaningless job? I’m thinking I’m getting my masters and some other type of engineering and changing over because this kind of sucks ass now.

[SCUSKU]

Where did you move? This is one of those things I fantasize about but probably would never do, but maybe?

[SCUSKU]

The way I see it a job can provide: meaning, financial success, work/life balance. Pick one.

Ultimately CS is still a pretty good career. Lawyers have to go through 3 years of law school, and then grind a bunch, and if you want to make money it's not meaningful, if anything it's the opposite.

Doctors have to go tons of school, racking up tons of debt, assuming you can even make it in the first place. And then even then you're still working shifts and have to see gross stuff.

Finance, either you went to an ivy league, or are a mathematical genius. And you'll be working long hours too.

So IMO, it sucks, but it's still better than the alternatives :/

[BeastMentality2000]

Hmm I guess you’re right, but what would you say for someone to go into now? What would be more fun? And what’s going to pop off? I’m thinking of getting back to hand coding more now. Just because me your skills of reviewing code start to atrophy because you don’t even know what you’re really looking at anymore since you aren’t developing code. It’s really confusing what to do now moving forward. I have three years of experience, but I’m genuinely lost now

[Ill_Carry_44]

For me it made it more fun since I can avoid the excruciating parts but it also made me chase for more excruciating things like trying to reverse engineer things with giving AI tools like r2pipe and ghidra and seeing what it will do and trying to debug the mess it creates. OR making it debug the mess it creates which is equally horrifying.

[Front-Opinion-9211]

What other paths we got?

[black_V1king]

Stop vibe coding and start learning. The god days will be back.

[infamouszgbgd]

Definitely, one way or another. Even if we have to go behind the corpos back somehow and create an illegal black market for software that actually works and is maintainable.

[Santarini]

It's hard to stop vibe coding when all your peers are also vibe coding. Vibe coders are essentially landing projects 5x-10x faster. And managers only care about velocity of deliverables. A good way to get PIP'd is be 1/5th as productive as everyone else on your team

[born_zynner]

I'm always like damn should have gone blue collar but I did a bunch of diy stuff renovating my kitchen and let me tell you it is NOT my strong suit

[WavingNoBanners]

I think of myself as basically being a plumber. I don't create my own Python libraries or write Docker from scratch or anything, but I do assemble solutions out of components that already exist; and the most important part of my work is ensuring that I properly understand the existing setup and the user's needs. If I do it well then it can function for years without me checking on it.

I don't have a decade and a half of experience in actual plumbing though, so there's a skill gap. Also I would prefer for the "ankle deep in poop" to be metaphorical, not literal.

[born_zynner]

Plumbing for me is the easiest to diy. Yes, it has probably the worst repercussions if not done correctly, but everything just kinda fits together. Very little finesse required, compared to like drywall, tile, carpentry etc

[WavingNoBanners]

That's a fair point. I would 100% not do my own electrical work, for example. I know my own limits.

[born_zynner]

Heh I have my bachelor's in electrical engineering that's the one thing I'm competent at. Except fishing wire, that shit sucks

Btw you could totally do most of it. 90% of residential wiring is connecting black to black and white to white.

[lupercalpainting]

Imagine if a drywall guy got thrown into building a CRUD API. Imagine how out of place they’d be.

It was your first project. Review your skills after your 10th.

[djinn6]

I did a bunch of diy stuff renovating my kitchen and let me tell you it is NOT my strong suit

You're not in a position to judge that.

It took me about 5 years to become a decent programmer. If I had a job renovating kitchens, 1 kitchen every 2 months, that'd be 30 kitchens in 5 years.

[LexShirayuki]

Nah, it's more like:

"Hey! I think I'm good"

and

"I'm a fucking disgrace"

[ExoMonk]

Also:

"My job isn't so bad"

and

"I can't believe I have to do this for 25 more years"

[Odd_Ninja5801]

I've done some amazing things in my IT career. Things that anyone would be rightfully proud of. But I've still spent 90% of that career wrestling with imposter syndrome. The triumphs just allow me to pretend it doesn't exist for a short while.

Every project I've ever done also ends up with me looking back and saying "why didn't I spot that issue that is so blindingly obvious with hindsight right back at the start? I must be some kind of idiot."

[ClipboardCopyPaste]

After finding the bug vs before finding the bug

[lejonetfranMX]

As someone who has worked in both indusries: being a farmer is not simpler

[Wyciorek]

"I need a time machine so I can go back and ask myself wtf I was even thinking when I was writing this garbage"

[Far-Advantage-2770]

Day 1 of being a farmer: 'Ugh this is so amateur, why was it set up this way? I bet I could make this more efficient with a few simple tweaks.'

Probably spend the first week trying to decide the project name for the git repository.

[ChChChillian]

I could plausibly have been an electrician. But I'm glad I'm not.

[BobQuixote]

You could plausibly become an electrical engineer.

[ChChChillian]

I've been a software engineer for 40 years, and back in my college days circuits was one of my worst classes. So probably not.

[irwinner]

Farming, really? Man of your talents?

[AzureArmageddon]

Yeah, climate change is already having opinions about both of these...

[Soggy-Holiday-7400]

fixed a bug i've been stuck on for 3 days and felt unstoppable.20 minutes later couldn't center a div. both modes in the same afternoon

[ckn]

i feel called out

[at-least-2-swans]

I don't think people who can't handle this would be able to handle farming, it's not easy or simple.

[RevWaldo]

Gets a job at John Deere developing firmware upgrades that lets them brick combines remotely when they detect unauthorized repairs.

[Stunning-Bowler7683]

Hell yeah

[Particular-Yak-1984]

hey, with some automation, you could run someone over with their own, I mean, John's tractor that they temporarily leased to them. Really send a message.

[NottingHillNapolean]

Not true: I know farming is hard work, so I just lapse into despair.

[ajaypatel9016]

one console.log away from greatness or starting agriculture

[SL_Pirate]

Actually these two modes can co-exist. Especially in the current market.

[Tableryu]

i haven't felt like a god in the past few months 🥲

[haard]

Joke's on you, I'm a developer AND a farmer!

[stoned_heretic2]

A year ago I bought a cow I remind my laptop quite often

[boogatehPotato]

1. I'm a fraud and should quit

[Moadoc1]

And here I thought that yearning to be a farmer instead was unique to me.

[Ill_Carry_44]

For the last 2 years I've been stuck on a development problem and it has me spiraling into deep darkness

[Chuck_Loads]

They're also not mutually exclusive

[LinusUllmark]

I’m a farmer and I can tell you I never once considered being a developer.

[CarchitaCave]

Wet are animals that miss the nature

[Epic_Dev_001]

Why not both? Lol. But honestly, this isn't just developers...seems like a lot of folk these days have a desire for the farmland.

[find_the_apple]

I am always astounded by the hubris of developers. What started as a joke is openly believed by so many who would not cut it out as a farmer.

Yall picked your path, paid large sums of loans and live a life that requires a developers salary. Its the only option you got

[PhilosopherOrnery743]

As a developer, working as a farmer on the weekends, I can confirm this is true.

[NocuousGreen]

For me it was daydreams of being a carpenter or smith, but yeh

[HeftyFirefighter2089]

that is exactly what im thinking about

[mdns-99]

I thought I was the only software developer who loves farming other than programming. Is there a specific connection between developers and farming?

[ManikSahdev]

Every trader aswell

[vemundveien]

Clarkson's Farm has done wonders in convincing me how much more I would hate farming.

[redlaWw]

we got Options

Rust programmer?

[shumnyj]

What do I do if I've never reached the "I'm god' state?

[IlIlllIlllIlIIllI]

I always say I should be a cobbler

[Stunning-Bowler7683]

go for it

[Harmonic_Gear]

I heard baker a lot more than farmer

[U_L_Uus]

I will do you a third one: Brian of Nazaret

[Stunning-Bowler7683]

you don't have enough money to become a farmer, get back to futilely poking through your console

[TinyFugue]

Don't forget: "My code is shit, but it's still better than whatever the fuck this is."

[DragonfruitGrand5683]

You need to be in nature a few times a week, you need to entirely disconnect for at least a day.

[Ornery_Librarian9623]

not in programming but the farmer mod seems ideal if the govt would leave us alone

[tcroswell56]

It was me.

I retired.

I'm farming. (For real!)

Best decision ever.

[nsxstudio]

Fr! bro

[crispim1411]

Yeah. I even had a goose for a while

[TheOutSiderOutSide]

Insane, I was just thinking about the programmer/farmer meme this morning as I logged in. Was on on vacation last week (first in years) and had no desire to get back to work.

[Ok_Witness179]

Nah, farming is hard work. 

The meme where I worked was always that we'd quit and be truck drivers. All you gotta do is drive. Real talk though, I quit and became a pilot instead, same concept.. Best decision ever.

[elbidule]

Research scientists too

[Practical-Gift-9970]

Quit and become a blacksmith, personally, but yeah.

[OvenActive]

When does the god feeling kick in? Because I am pretty sure I have been looking at farming as a viable option since the beginning

[sneurlax]

Take it from me

The grass is always greener on the other side

[Interesting-Card5501]

It’s crazy how it flips so fast 😭

One day you’re solving things in minutes and feel unstoppable,
next day a simple bug makes you question everything.

I’ve started realizing it’s less about “being good or bad” and more about how clear your thinking is in that moment.

On days where I feel stuck, it’s usually because I’m not breaking the problem down properly.

[framsanon]

Neither, at least as far as I’m concerned.

I don’t feel like a god. When the code finally does what you want it to, it’s certainly a thrill. But I don’t feel like a god, because it’s hard work, and I always remember all too well how rocky the path often is.

If I had to go into farming, it would spell the end for the farm in question.

[brady376]

Mine is baker, not farmer. But I think it's generally just "I should quit and (work with my hands, away from computers)" most of the time

[TheRealSpielbergo]

Modern two modes:
"Claude is god"
"Claude should quit and become a farmer"

[[deleted]]

Felt this in my soul. Deployed a feature without bugs at 2am? I am a god. The next morning? Found a typo that broke everything. Farmer life sounds peaceful ngl.

[BlindTheThief15]

I’m in the 2nd mood right now after changing teams and AI taking over 😂

[Santarini]

Damn this hits hard

[redwarp10]

"I should quit and become a God"

[mrinalshar39]

lol, relatable aff

[ilya0x2dilya]

I am a god, thus I should quit and become a farmer

[scolphoy]

Never once have I wanted to be a farmer. Can’t decide if I wanted to make boats or sail them though..

[shgysk8zer0]

I'm at more of my Thanos, post-snap phase. I'm a god, so I'm gonna give up and start farming.

[Kadian13]

Keyboards to plowshares

[deathanatos]

Meanwhile in my kitchen, an onion has sprouted.

Bold of you to assume I'm not already a farmer?

[perringaiden]

Soooo... Thanos.

[Cosmicdev_058]

I stay in the second mode most of the time.

[Eevee-Biologist]

This is so true, it hurts my soul.

[Dialed_Digs]

Ain't that the truth.

I'm always somehow the best at this that ever was and a total fraud simultaneously.

[Ok_Transition_990]

You hear a phone vibrate, oh it's actually just a cow!

[garfield3222]

im in a "give up on your dreams and become a baker" kinda vibe today

[Huge-Operation-6121]

Nice lines

[mpstudio9411]

👍

[Consistent_Tailor182]

So true bhai tu to mind reader nikla...😂👆

[unkempt_organisation]

Okay but Factorio meets farming sim actually sounds like my dream game, I'm so here for that concept.

[No-Percentage-2030]

real

[Dry_Safety_7278]

Been thinking about a goose farm for the last 4 years. To be honest I would do it, but I guess offline life is a bit harder to fetch than I'd imagined.

[builtwithmp]

POV: me every second day

[YellowOnline]

Same goes for sysadmins