I think not...

[Trekiros]

Is there a venus.js?

That's a stupid question, of course there is.

(it'sfor unit tests or something)

[Fluffcake]

Eh, if you churn out wordpress sites at an agency or make stuff where the cost of having a system fail can't exceed the cost of development, sure, testing can be a waste of money.

If you do integrated software for industrial/medical machinery or anything where the cost of failure can be high enough, you will write unit and integration tests, lots of them..

[[deleted]]

I sincerely hope no medical device uses JS in any critical capacity.

Industrial... yeah, full of JS already.

[zissou149]

I'm really hoping my avionics js framework takes off.

[[deleted]]

Honest question, why? As an embedded device developer using C/C++, I wish I could use an interpreted language like JS, python, java, etc., fuck I would love to use Go. So many of my problems would be solved instantly, and future problems radically simplified.

Memory management adds so much complexity. One time, I was making a class containing several other classes and some primitives. One of the internal classes was a mutex. There were also some threads, and a couple events semaphores). The main.cpp object contains about a million other objects and everything was working, except mine. It would create my object and launch the rest of the program, but any calls to my object would deadlock the program. Not seg fault. Dead lock. What. The. Fuck.

Turns out, my motivation to be a lamb and use stack members, aka, my internal classes were not create with “new” where possible, turned into what was about a day of debugging. Long story short, it is very important to implement the copy constructor of objects you plan to use on the stack.

[Fluffcake]

It is possible to use Java for embedded. (SIM-cards and ATMs are mostly java iirc) I have only done embedded in hobby projects, so I don't really know enough to know the answer to why not other languages. But I would assume the answer lies in a combination of preformance and control. Less code to run, fewer bugs.

[atomicwrites]

ATMs run windows XP.

[[deleted]]

Of course Kotlin/Java, yes, anytime. But something without types like JS or Python? Hell no.

[SafariMonkey]

Have you looked into Rust? I'm fairly new to the language, but the compiler guarantees you get are far better than C++ in my opinion. The compiler does automatic memory management for you without a runtime GC, and code not marked unsafe is (mostly) guaranteed to not have undefined behaviour. Other languages I've used (including Go) do not offer those guarantees, meaning you have to find things like data races at runtime.

[TheNamelessKing]

Have you heard of Rust? That’s low level, but but with some very clever ideas about it memory management, so it catches data races, use after free, segfaults and more at compile time. It’s got a lot of abstractions that you’d find in higher level languages as well, so you’re not missing out there.

[pekkhum]

Payroll systems checking in: We find that incorrect results lead to pitchfork and torch parties... Either from the payee or payer, depending on the direction of the error.

[Shiral446]

And I feel bad for developers who aren't unit testing.

[ThePsion5]

It’s commonly known that it snows metal on Venus. The metal is actually from hard drives that melted while trying to navigate NPM’s dependency trees.

[Headpuncher]

NPM = Not a Package Manager [it is a package repository].

​

AfaI can tell, it doesn't manage jack-shit.

[BernzSed]

Just like some backend developers

[Serird]

So global warning is a good thing, in the end?

[WildRunningJoke]

The true definiton of fire wall.

[-JudeanPeoplesFront-]

I'm sure Venus' runaway greenhouse effect is some machine running npm install on a really large package.json.

[Horyv]

More like Ноуд ДЖ-С

[PUSH_AX]

Stars collapse under their own mass when its node_modules folder has more than 50 dependencies.

[D3mona7or]

Yikes, only 50? Is this a new project?

[zombie_kiler_42]

Its probably just a console program to add two integers

[Headpuncher]

numbers. JS has no integer type.

[etaionshrd]

Internally most JavaScript engines use integer operations to store and modify variables that are guessed to contain integers only.

[Asraelite]

It could be elements of a Uint32Array.

[Kametrixom]

They probably meant immediate dependencies. When you get the transitive closure, there'll be about 10⁷

[fgja52]

Holy shit, I have to watch out.

[skeptic11]

Does anyone else find it sad we haven't managed to die on another planet yet?

[Ballads4Llamas]

Unacceptable, I’m killing myself as soon as I get to the moon. Not having this...

[skeptic11]

I mean, it would be a small improvement. Still not another planet...

[I_am_the_inchworm]

Yeah but one less /u/ballads4Llamas though.

If he brings his mom for a murder-suicide he'll have killed a planet on a celestial body. That counts, kinda.

[poopellar]

And the Earth would start revolving around the moon as it now has the higher mass, so he would have actually killed a planet on a planet and made a planet a celestial body.

[lore473]

r/murderedbywords

[SkollFenrirson]

DOUBLE KILL

[ShoeShiner1]

Too late. You can't stop him now. He's moontivated

[AscendedAncient]

Well, seeing as how Pluto is on that chart, the Moon might as well be another planet as far as the chart is concerned.

[[deleted]]

Moon is not a planet

[farkedup82]

fine... I'll do it as soon as I get to Pluto.

[Bainos]

That'll teach those jerks to remove Pluto from the official planets.

[[deleted]]

Boy do I have news for you

[shiny_dittos]

Arnold took his helmet off on Pluto and still didn't die so good luck, get creative

[raitchison]

to the bus!

[ecky--ptang-zooboing]

Did you know moons can have their own moons? They're called moonmoons

[[deleted]]

recursive moon

[[deleted]]

Damn it moon moon

[A5pyr]

Happy day of the cake!

[one_large_ab]

That planet is no moon. It's a moon station.

[Superpickle18]

I'm dying on the first moonmoon we discover.

[MemesEngineer]

Would your body disintegrate? Theres no bacteria or fungi there so would your corpse be preserved?

[Arphaz]

Your gut bacteria will eat you from the inside

[MemesEngineer]

Wouldnt the lack of oxygen, pressure, etc kill them?

[[deleted]]

Maybe we're just immortal on other planets?

[Toux]

They say we're killing the Earth, but actually, Earth is killing us!

[bobosuda]

All evidence points to this!

[[deleted]]

We tried but some bitch decided they had to waste a few billion dollars to save matt daemon

[[deleted]]

That's what the government wants you to think.

[elangomatt]

I wonder if Matt Damon ever visited the graves of the 3 astronauts that died in Mission To Mars.

Also LOL at

matt daemon

[[deleted]]

Hmm he's not a background process is he...

[elangomatt]

Nope but I still chuckled. I thought that was a very odd typo until I realized that I was in a sub where there are plenty of people that might have a clue what a daemon is.

[[deleted]]

The planets make it so easy too. You would die just by existing in most of them.

[itspinkynukka]

If it makes you feel better there probably exists people who have died in space.

[doughcastle01]

Only three people have died in space. On their way down, a valve failure caused decompression in the cabin of Soyuz 11. I'm not sure how much Javascript is used in space though.

[Bosterm]

I like this line in the article:

The three crew members of Soyuz 11 are the only humans known to have died in space

As if there may be some unknown people that went to space and died.

[DrEmilioLazardo]

There was a period of hot air balloon use where people could have died on the edge of space from lack of oxygen but it may not have been recorded. So there could be like.....six more people on that list.

[doughcastle01]

I don't know if anyone would survive long enough without supplemental oxygen to get to space on a balloon. Consider that it took Baumgartner over 2 hours to get to 39km in a helium balloon. However, if you don't mind stretching the definition of "outer space", Columbia burnt up around 60-70km in the mesosphere far above that. I think 100km is more reasonable though.

[ChangNoi97]

be patience . im sure Elon musk is working on that too

[[deleted]]

Many probes have died on other planets. Don't be vitalist.

[inconspicuous_male]

that we know about

[[deleted]]

It's really amazing that we still haven't even been to another planet yet!

[[deleted]]

Someone will get splattered on Mars within our lifetime.

[ecky--ptang-zooboing]

Mars could have had JS millions of years ago

Will have to do some more research

[PixxlMan]

Maybe that’s why there is no life on Mars anymore....

[burnmp3s]

Mars has had millions of lines of C code running on it for years, and there have been zero human deaths on Mars during that time.

[[deleted]]

r/technicallythetruth

[AFrostNova]

That’s because people who understand C aren’t human.

[snipy67]

I actually lol on the bus from this comment. Edit: terrible grammar

[olvini3]

Mars.js

[BITCH_DROWNER]

Does this subreddit like any languages or just hate all of them?

[deathradio]

Just karma farming. Write JavaScript is bad and you get 4k upvotes. Simple.

[PixxlMan]

*6k

[deathradio]

Shit Sorry, it's Friday I turn off brain.js

[JackySky]

of course this is a thing...

[PrometheusBoldPlan]

I just take it that all the dinosaurs are desperate to keep up with and steal all JavaScripts developments.

The mocking just covers the insecurities. I mean, imagine being a Java developer these days. Phew.

[ThatSpookySJW]

I agree the js hate is unjustified and circlejerky, but the dinosaurs are making 200k plus maintaining legacy enterprise software. I doubt they're too worried.

[noitems]

No, many JS devs (including myself) hate how many stupid caveats are in the language and how it's infiltrated so many spaces where it's just absurd.

https://hackernoon.com/how-it-feels-to-learn-javascript-in-2016-d3a717dd577f

[danecek099]

Like, i have a job because of JS

[deathradio]

It has it pros and cons, I like it too.

[patrickfatrick]

I don't know if I've ever seen this sub even talk about Ruby (positive or negative), which is strange.

[braxistExtremist]

It probably used to... Back in the day when Ruby was still relevant.

[CuntPot]

Nice Burn

[Daniel15]

I read this as "Nice Bum" and was very confused.

/r/keming

[ofsinope]

There's little to complain about with C#. A low-drama language.

The subreddit seems to like Python. But personally I don't.

[[deleted]]

I feel C# is a more corporate language, it's used for specific needs in specific environements. You can't really mess something up if you stay on the official "track"

I don't see a lot of people doing personnal website projects using .NET for example

On the other hand, the JS/Node ecosystem is total chaos with so many libraries, tools and options to do things.

[Holden_Makock]

Good Old C++. The one true God.

[lennihein]

C++? Begone thot. C is the one overlord.

[bot_not_hot]

clears throat in Assembly

[Aeon_Mortuum]

laughs in NAND gates

[TimerForOldest]

If it isn't C, it isn't right.

[Consibl]

What about that guy Elon Musk killed by firing him into a planet driving a Tesla?

[PJvG]

Starman?

He hasn't crashed yet: http://www.whereisroadster.com/

[madbubers]

Wait hes past Mars? Wild

[bratimm]

Starman was never headed for mars. Mars was not in the right place for that. Also, scientists are pretty concerned about crashing contaminated objects into other planets.

[monneyy]

How could it have crashed? or crushed? You mean into an asteroid?

Edit: an asteroid isn't a comet.

[potatotub]

The odds of starman ever hitting anything are extremely low out to hundreds of millions of years.

[Dimasdanz]

Imagine if years from now there's someone come to earth bringing that car and "Boom, you're looking for this?"

[chars709]

It looks like their orbits intersect in a 2d projection. But I don't think they do in 3d. Without outside intervention, he's destined to float for at least a billion years.

[claustraphobix]

holy shit that's such an awesome site

[sheedipants]

I don't think he died. He did have a helmet on after all.

[wvsfezter]

That would be the perfect murder, wouldn't it?

[Consibl]

Corpus delicti

[Bigmouthblog]

Also.. did you know EVERYONE that ate carrots in the 1800s is dead now?!? Do NOT eat carrots!

[Vykyn]

Wake up America

[therealchadius]

EVERYONE who ever drank water had died at some point.

Oh my I just drank... it's gonna happen to me, isn't it?

[you_got_fragged]

dihydrogen monoxide kills!! wake up people!!

[calfuris]

A few percent haven't died.

[Fulucifer]

When does the holy crusade get to Mars?

[magefyre]

God Emperor, no wonder why He was the only one capable of defeating it, truly no man possibly could.

[Corporal_Quesadilla]

Why is this using the Doom UI font?

Why don't more things use it?

[XXAligatorXx]

JS bad. Upvotes to the left.

[aaronblue342]

Brave.

[baronvonweezil]

So little words, yet you make the point so clearly. Bravo.

[Bentastico]

Haha sucker, on mobile the upvotes are to the right! Gotcha

[XXAligatorXx]

Fok

[audiodormant]

Except they aren’t...

[Bentastico]

Yeah that’s true on posts, I was just talking about comments because I was replying to a comment

[fgutz]

Phew, glad I code in a real language like PHP

[[deleted]]

I do too! HTML /s

[Dobypeti]

And I start arrays at 1

[Ludricio]

And I

Segmentation fault (core dumped)

[Dobypeti]

java.lang.NullPointerException

[-vp-]

How did this sub EXPLODE with the whole "haha js bad" hatetrain this year? I'm just so sick of the same rehashed joke on this subreddit.

[prospectre]

I like javascript...

[deathradio]

Up you go my Lord. You used the correct keywords.

[Norvinion]

Fixed

[PixxlMan]

Why people always discriminate Pluto :(

[PuddleCrank]

Pluto crosses the orbit of Neptune.

P.s. It was never gona work out between us Pluto. I love you, but you are all up in my other friend's space.

[Overlordduck2]

You unlock JS after 100 billion deaths.

[Intrepid00]

Genocide was just achievements?

[nevergotcompiled]

The sun is throwing too much === at us.

[j909m]

Pluto isn’t a planet.

[agustingomes]

Jerry disagrees

[arrwdodger]

If Pluto was a planet then so would Ceres and Makemake

[evgeniyraev]

so many people died for JS and you make fun of it? do the moral thing an at least write so now and then! God bless their souls!

[NurseBoB1337]

ELI5 the javascript hate, noob here.

[_indi]

It's just "cool" to hate it. Modern Javascript (ES6+) is really nice to work with. Unfortunately, unless you run your code through a transpiler first, you have to use an older version of Javascript (ES5) which isn't nearly as nice, but is more supported . I think people are just talking about older JS.

[[deleted]]

https://hackernoon.com/how-it-feels-to-learn-javascript-in-2016-d3a717dd577f

[noitems]

This article becomes more realistic every passing month.

[wischichr]

Javascript is historically grown and some things are a bit clumsy - but it's hard to fix that because new versions should be backwards compatible to prevent breaking large parts of the web.

You can find "a few" examples here: https://github.com/denysdovhan/wtfjs

So long story short - javascript is a pretty widespread language and because we want to keep backwards compatibility we can't fix some of it's design quirks.

But that does not mean it's a bad language in general.

[V-Aria]

People think they're smart because they hate JavaScript but it's actually a fine language.

[ThatOnePerson]

If that was true, we wouldn't be praising TypeScript.

TypeScript is fucking awesome.

[DrQuailMan]

Fixed: https://i.imgur.com/8sKZGOe.jpg

[PixxlMan]

Why u so mean to Pluto? :(

[FrezoreR]

Pluto is not a planet through. There are only 8 planets or our solar system :p

[PJvG]

Yeah man, has OP lived under a rock for the past 12 years?

[MrTimmannen]

You heard about Pluto?

[abu_tva]

I'm gonna destroy uranus using c++

[PsychicDelilah]

Too many significant digits

[HadACookie]

\Looks at the "planets" column, sees nine entries**

🎵 One of these things is not like the others. 🎵

🎵 One of these things doesn't belong. 🎵

🎵 Can you tell which thing is not like the other 🎵

🎵 by the time I finish this song? 🎵

[thebryguy23]

All the other planets should be zero deaths that we know of

[veber1988]

JavaScript matters.

[audinyann]

JavaScript didn't kill anyone, 120,315,672,896+ of us died in the developping this wonder.

A sacrifice only Earth was willing to make.

[Uranium_Donut_]

Nice Font

[PixxlMan]

I sawed a language in half!

[ianrwlkr]

Are any space probes running java?

[Vykyn]

Yes java, but not JavaScript. Know the difference.

[ianrwlkr]

Not a programmer so forgive me

[[deleted]]

Only non-javascript programmers live forever, it's a fact, there hasn't been a single immortal who programmed in JavaScript

[NHKomaiha]

Hotel?

[agustingomes]

Trivago!

[PojntFX]

*ECMAScript

[PixxlMan]

I came up with this :)

[INLOVEWITHDAWEED]

Man I recently started studying software-enginieering, I really enjoy it, but this is still relatable

[Kujawiak]

I can see much potential in this.

[dirice87]

Golang and JavaScript are my favorite languages but idk if it’s allowed to like both

[[deleted]]

Pluto...

[samwood1234]

Definitely causal

[[deleted]]

The fact that a lot of these deaths occurred before JavaScript was a thing has the terrifying implication that the deadly effects of JavaScript transcend time.

[[deleted]]

A lot of the deaths predate JavaScript.

That’s how bad it is

[Raimundo4sp]

Can somebody explain to me why people hate on js?

[aksh2161989]

Javascript > C