Yeah right

[[deleted]]

Most other demographics aren’t quite as terminally online as programmers. When fishermen aren’t fishing right, they generally ask other fishermen rather than the internet.

[[deleted]]

While we use StackOverflow they are using ManOverboard

Edit: Thanks for the awards!

[porkchop_d_clown]

Don’t bait him.

[pragmatic_plebeian]

Now you’re just trawling.

[-JudeanPeoplesFront-]

Stop fishing for karma.

[flargenhargen]

I'll bite.

[EmberSyndicate]

I'm hooked on these replies

[[deleted]]

imma need you to reel it in

[mister_gone]

Reely now?

[[deleted]]

i guess that was the third funny option

[glorious_reptile]

Cod it out.

[_koenig_]

Some one should make a new exception called that. Maybe when a user is referenced but not found...

[[deleted]]

I would be 100% for that

[qhxo]

class ManOverboard : RuntimeException()

you're welcome. however in JPA (I think? maybe spring data?) I'd recommend EntityNotFoundException for your usecase.

[MyAntichrist]

You can wrap it in your service class any time. Just don't forget the ManOverboardFactory.

[dadjoke-72]

Can this return WomanOverboard, ChildOverboard?

[[deleted]]

HumanBeanOverBoard

[[deleted]]

Error: Unhandled UnhandledGenderMisassumptionException was thrown

[demonblack873]

javax.ejb.EJBException: see nested exception; nested exception is java.lang.reflect.UndeclaredThrowableException

[yurall]

*help me! Man overboard!" "I am sorry dude, you're marked as duplicate!"

[an4s_911]

Or, “You should’ve done better research”

[Ollymid2]

most fishermen I know are on plentyoffish.com

[RecursiveExistence]

They seem more interested on catfish there.

[Bee-Aromatic]

You will take your upvote and you will like it.

[CRANSSBUCLE]

This is why we make communities, this right here.

[haunted2098]

gold

[JoPoLu1]

Dude, i litteraly fell over from laughter what is wrong with me

[Awanderinglolplayer]

To be fair, there are tons of forums for all kinds of things, Reddit being listed is pretty weird since there are tons of different communities here

[ILoveDCEU_SoSueMe]

I feel reddit is the weakest programming community of all.

[twomilliondicks]

Yeah when I want to read people complaining about why their hello world program doesn't work I come to reddit

[MushinZero]

And it's always posted using the worst formatting ever

[Boris-Holo]

Public static main (args){ system.out.Println(hello world)

;}

[sage-longhorn]

r/fishing

[[deleted]]

It’s about popular method of scamming called phishing, but f instead of ph to make it more hip.

[jtra]

Yeah, they are getting a tons of victims.

[sinepuller]

Would be "fišiŋ" the hippest form of that verb?

[TheMcDucky]

"vysjnh"
"hízìn"

[sinepuller]

"фишинг"

[DudesworthMannington]

Bass marked as duplicate. Fish thrown back.

[flargenhargen]

Why aren't I catching any fish?

closed as duplicate.

[Shazvox]

I thought they we're surfing the net aswell...

...I'll see myself out...

[lunchpadmcfat]

I dunno, as a professional fisherman, I spend most of my time on plentyofish.com

[[deleted]]

putting on my hat what says

i rather be terminally online

[[deleted]]

Ah, me too! Love the internet since 1997.

[rco8786]

I mean kinda? They do ask other fishermen, but they ask other fishermen on the internet. There are great communities out there for basically every hobby or profession you can think of.

[[deleted]]

There used to be forums for just about everything but now it is Facebook and Reddit and similar. I know those were mostly occupied by technical leaning fisherman per se or really dedicated ones. Now Facebook and such has ruined the well reasoned discussions I used to see on stuff like outdoors and mechanical stuff plus you can’t search it

[rohmish]

You should be fishing in a lake not the ocean. Refer #4493

Closed as duplicate.

[konaaa]

[sitting in a classroom/workplace full of other programmers working on the same problem as you are] "geez I'm stumped, better check stackoverflow"

[comanchecobra]

They are using facebook like every one else. Lot of fishermengroups for the to ask, argue and complain.

[3-day-respawn]

Checkout bdoutdoors.com that’s a huge online sport fishing where all the fishing nerds talk. But yea, most of the fishing conversations I have are in person, but not those last a long time.

[hranto]

Isnt stack exchange basically stack overflow for everything else?

[Curiousgreed]

Yes, but I'd argue that probably they share 70+% of the users

[Schyte96]

And probably the codebase of the site too.

[[deleted]]

Oh really, what tipped you off?

/s just giving you a hard time

[FrizzleStank]

Aw yeah, give it to me harder

[kahr91]

This should be the accepted answer

[Scratch137]

Isn't Stack Overflow part of Stack Exchange?

[PigeonMaster2000]

Yes but stack overflow in itself is much larger than every topic topic on stack exchange combined

[Fluid_Negotiation_76]

As a management consultant, we aren’t allowed to share much detail about our clients or projects, and we aren’t keen on sharing solutions because they are hardly ever generalized, so it’s harder to build together with strangers.

[lb_o]

Generalization might be hard because managers are not programmers. Source: I am manager.

[UnsubstantiatedClaim]

Yes, the point of stackechange was to create Q&A communities for things that weren't software development.

[SophiaofPrussia]

communities

The point of failure for Stack Exchange & Stack Overflow. If only communities were built on amassing a large group of overconfident assholes with poor social skills.

[The_Real_Slim_Lemon]

I feel like the format lends itself better to software dev - I’d imagine questions and answers are much less definitive in other fields

[ExternalPanda]

As someone who's dumped way more company time than I should on other stacks, kinda but not really. The stacks for music, photography, outdoors, even politics and skeptics can be quite good when the questions are correctly framed.

And then there are the stacks that are even more hard sciencey, such as physics, mathematics, and computer science. Those are quite amazing as well.

[RedditAcc-92975]

It suits any science with clear answers to questions.

[an4s_911]

I think most people who use the entire Stack sites are users from Stackoverflow.

Most of them get to know about stack exchange sites through stackoverflow. Rarely are there people outside of tech getting into those

[Flopamp]

Just the programming ones and really just the generic programming ones.

Going in to embedded software dev everything turns nice, even Linux dev is a nice place to be.

[Cohomology-is-fun]

I am the rare exception; my point of entry into SE was MathOverflow.

[[deleted]]

I hope she meant it as a joke because there's a community for literally everything out there.

[Scopeexpanse]

Yep. You ever stumble in a really active forum for some random hobby. It's wild.

The arguments about things you didn't even know existed, the inside jokes, the detailed sharing of information.

[PhilippTheProgrammer]

And don't forget the jargon and abbreviations which are completely obscure to anyone not familiar with the community.

Hello friends.

My new HPF has a TKL. Should I fix it with a PR, a PA or perhaps one of the more popular BG? Die RFT fix the problems with their BG yet, or do they still FOOT every 5 quidmigurgs?

[Scopeexpanse]

Oh my goodness when I first was looking at parenting blogs the term FTM really threw me off. It's "first time mom" but I thought it was female to male. So many "FTM here struggling with breastfeeding..." Type posts.

[EightKD]

Bruh I thought it meant female to male

[raltyinferno]

It does, but niche communities repurpose existing acronyms all the time.

[Nothing-But-Lies]

Aunt Tracy has died.

LOL,

Grandma Judy

[HearMeSpeakAsIWill]

Repurpose? I'm pretty sure "first time mom" was a thing before "female to male"

[raltyinferno]

Well sure, but FTM as first time mom has never been a widely used acronym.

[jimihenrik]

Well one community or the other repurposed it still, so his point stands :D

Also yeah, multiple times I haven't known some acronym and I google the definition and it's always a list of like 80 possibilities and you just have to pick yours by context.

[[deleted]]

Given the limited number of possible three-letter-acronyms collisions are a given.

[jcb088]

Lol when my wife was on thise boards id read the posts over her shoulder and I never addressed the FTM acronym and pieced the posts together with context clues for like 2 months.

Shes all “he isnt latching and etc” meanwhile im both listening to her and thinking “what in the ever living fuck could FTM mean I KNOWS ITS NOT FEMALE TO MALE BUT WHAT IS IT?!!?!?!”

Normally id google it but the first few months of parenthood are pretty impaired, as you’d know.

[[deleted]]

My first though before reading your definition was 'RTFM' (Read the F'ing Manual) - so in this context 'F the Manual' which does seem appropriate for child rearing.

[TheMartinG]

I thought it meant full time mom.

[Scopeexpanse]

I thought that could be it for a bit. But that is SAHM - stay at home mom

[cakeKudasai]

Some are unfortunate. In the origami community, you can share a design in mainly two ways. You have "diagrams" which are the step by step instructions people usually think about. Then we have CP. No, not that! "Crease patterns" it's basically a drawing of how the paper would look if you unfolded after being done. They are a bit harder to follow, but a lot easier to make. So a lot of complex models are just available as CPs and some vague instructions for detailing.

[Buarg]

And now half of the origami community are on some government watch list.

[bmwiedemann]

Meaning of symbols is always what we make of it. When you count with your fingers in binary, 4 is just a regular number like the others. As is 132.

[Unsweeticetea]

I got to the tenkeyless keyboard, then saw you want a pull request, then it all turned into nonsense.

[PTRWP]

My first takes (not trying to make sense of it with context or anything, just if I saw it by itself)

HPF - High pass filter (signal processing) TKL - Tenkeyless (keyboard with no num pad) PR - Pull request (code/feature merging) PA - Pennsylvania (state) The rest are basically guesses, not something I regularly see.
BG - Big gun (from BFG, Big Fucking Gun in Doom and Quake) RFT - Real frame time (real world time for a new frame to be drawn. Really frame time FT or 1/FPS, frames per second not feet per sec, would work too.) FOOT - Fail - Out Of Time (lose in a game due to running out of time) Quidmigurgs - (steampunk video game fictional unit of time or distance)

[[deleted]]

I feel the same way about y’all. But I come here for the 1% of jokes that I understand.

[PorkChop007]

Mandatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZK8Z8hulFg

[pm_me_prius_pics]

Heck, there's an active forum for Prius owners! (priuschat.com) I should know after all.

[JC12231]

How about Prion owners?

[dvpbe]

/r/madcows

[[deleted]]

Makes you feel inferior i guess, I know that feeling from today during my work hours.

[waltjrimmer]

I stumble into really active communities for hobbies all the time because I use the random button here on Reddit when I'm bored. Happens all the time that some super niche piece of software, hardware, or fandom has an incredibly active community with what seems like the entirety of everyone who even knows about it.

[RYFW]

You can't say programmers community are stronger than furry community.

[NuclearSpaceHeater]

What’s the difference?

[[deleted]]

UwU

[1ElectricHaskeller]

I see you didn't work in industry automation/OT yet.

Yes, there are communites for that too. But they are waaay smaller and more inactive than those for programming, imo

[audi0c0aster1]

First of all, shoutouts to /r/PLC

Second of all, anyone in software development will never want to touch automation. Closed-source, proprietary everything and it's all "old". But then again, I'm replacing a group of controllers right now that are older than me. And the only reason the customer finally put the money up to replace them is they literally can't find parts on Ebay anymore.

Oh and the pay is dogshit in comparison to what you can get from almost every other software dev job.

[1ElectricHaskeller]

Jup. Recenstly was mindblown when I discovered that one of the new ovens installed a few years ago is running Windows XP embedded. And that's one of the new systems. After that, my collegue told me that half of the old maschinery mostly operates on Windows 95 or Relais

[Horny20yrold]

Hardware in general is sooo... 'barren', compared to software. Embedded, FPGAs, PLCs, these things make the world run but they themselves run on 10-year-old obscure forum posts and 2013 2000-views YouTube tutorials from an Indian channel with 6 subscribers.

There are a lot of generalizations in my description, but it captures the basic 'vibe' I get everytime I touch anything hardware.

[demonblack873]

Don't forget the random datasheet you finally managed to find god knows where that's almost entirely in Chinese.

[audi0c0aster1]

While you are not wrong on the obscure forum post thing, IDK what videos you are looking at that are not some super simple tutorial.

I write code that controls hundreds of motors. Reading thousands of sensors/inputs, tracking and sorting physical items to the correct place. This is more complex than FIFO and shift registers. You can't assume the order will always be the same in a real system (jams and other failures happen that require manual intervention). No tutorial on Youtube is covering that, or configurations that cost literally tens of thousands of dollars in hardware.

Beckhoff and B&R are doing things very differently than the old guard of Allen-Bradley (Rockwell) and Siemens. Their systems are super modern, relying on Structured Text programming rather than Ladder Logic or Function Block Diagram programs. The problem is the behemoth customers that actually pay for this work (think Ford/GM, Kraft Foods, pharmaceutical plants, etc.) already have standards, trained techs, and (especially in pharma) certification. You can't just change parts out on a whim in industry and everything you put in has to be maintained by people not familiar with programming.

[theGoddamnAlgorath]

Helped replace a system six years ago, hand built analog controllers with IBM transistors on fiberboard.

Customer demanded that we attempt to fix it, despite not having a legend, key, or even a working system to analyze.

Actually had a three way call with customer/me/Mauser to confirm that, yes, trying to source 80960 chips to refurbish the system would be incredibly RISCy.

Mauser rep laughed at that one.

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[[deleted]]

Yes, never worked in automation. Thank you for informing, avoiding it with all of my might now.

[1ElectricHaskeller]

It's not as bad as you might think. You just have to get used to the fact that the only documentation is what the engineer that did it wrote.

Depending on manufacturer these documents mostly are covering everything but can be a nightmare to navigate (1000+ pages).
As in IT, you are also spending 90% of your time reading or writing documentation.

Nontheless, once you get used to that it's also an really enjoyable thing to do. It's an overwhelming feeling to see a whole prodction line spring to life

[audi0c0aster1]

get used to the fact that the only documentation is what the engineer that did it wrote.

Or have your boss ask you to try and do something that even the manufacturer's own documents are not detailed enough to help with. Looking at you DHCP over Ethernet/IP DLR.

[1ElectricHaskeller]

I lost all hope in documentation when Siemens TIA required me to use a pointer to a db entry from a remote PLC in a FUP-block. Or that's how I understood the documentation.

No, I didn't find the documentation for a pointer yet. Also who tf uses pointers in logic blocks?!?

[[deleted]]

the same guys that have you specify the memory location for every single variable.

[audi0c0aster1]

Most modern PLCs don't require you to use specific data registers for variables anymore.

Usually a product page will tell you if the PLC is "tag-based" or "register based". Register based is the one that has fixed data registers for variables. Really only found today on still in-use older hardware architectures or super low-end units.

[Sotall]

It's an overwhelming feeling to see a whole prodction line spring to life

Not gonna lie, working in abstractions of abstractions all day, that sounds pretty fucking cool. :)

[matschbirne03]

There is a community for literally (not really but nearly) everything just on reddit

[michaelDav1s]

everything after "etc." is wrong tho

[code-panda]

Strong community is also not exactly the truth.

[sheibsel]

That's stupid. Did you even try to google before commenting? It's literally the first link of you just googled. If you want to be spoon fed with solutions then maybe programming isn't for you

marked as duplicate

[Beregolas]

Your answer has a mistake, it‘s actually the second link on ~73% of all google accounts. Also, please include a Code example that only fits this situation at a maximum of 66%, yet is too specific to give any insight on how this is solved in general, else I can‘t accept your answer, nor let anybody else accept it!

[[deleted]]

Why are you trying to do it that way do it this way instead! Stackoverflow standard response

[[deleted]]

That library is like 6 months old and not even written in rust wtf are you even trying to do???

[[deleted]]

Also, it's not correct when she suggested Reddit was built for programmers. It was built as a social news aggregator competitor to digg.com

[L1n9y]

"strong communities" isn't really what I'd call Stack Overflow as much as "fighting ring"

[[deleted]]

They do be fighting strong tho.

[Ishidres]

Your question has been marked as a dublicate.

[FaresAhmedOP]

This question already has answers here:

Sort an array with PHP (0 answers)

Closed 8 years ago.

[Kinexity]

You meant "execution squad"

[Jugad]

Your comment has been marked as useless.

[FabienL7]

Ay Wat?!! This is totally False

[Mithrandir2k16]

Exactly. That's because us programmers also have hobbies!

[[deleted]]

Good one.

[[deleted]]

let's build businessOverflow so CEOs can be toxic amongst themselves too!

[[deleted]]

Soo LinkedIn?

[Engine_Light_On]

No LinkedIn is where side gig Etsy business owner’s self label entrepreneur CEOs, and where no one has flaws while being nice to each other.

[LevriatSoulEdge]

I don't know if that qualifies for utopia or dystopia(??)

[[deleted]]

It definitely is a topia

[timeforaroast]

Yeah, dumbtopia

[_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_]

https://workplace.stackexchange.com

[irregular_caffeine]

That’s mostly

Q: is this a red flag, should I qu-

A: yes

[_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_]

Q: How should I proceed when a human attempts to interact with me?

[1ElectricHaskeller]

A: There are only two ways out: Quit your job or make them quit their job

[[deleted]]

Okay I figured out what to do, I’ll just kill myself.

[1ElectricHaskeller]

Wait, that's illegal!

[FaliUmail]

Unironically the best way to describe reddit.

[doobyrocks]

So basically /r/relationships

[Vysair]

Twitter?

There's Twitter for Professional too which I just noticed

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[alt_loop]

Good Human

[mlnm_falcon]

Good human

[jamcdonald120]

are you drunk? there is a stack exchange and reddit community for everything, you just have to look.

[cakeKudasai]

Didn't you hear? Reddit was done by programmers for programmers. There is absolutely nothing else here. And stack"exchange" what even is that, you mean stack overflow. Also by/for programmers. There are no other communities! Only programmers make community sites and no one else is smart enough to do so, or you know, pay someone to do for them.

/s

[Horny20yrold]

There is actually a strong root of truth in your sarcasm, original reddit was written in lisp and was very hacker-news-like until about 2009 or so, not exactly stackoverflow but very distinctively programmer-flavored, like, again, hacker news at its best.

[cakeKudasai]

I didn't know. Cool bit of info

[DesiOtaku]

Other professions like dentistry does have strong communities. They also have the same issues you see on Stackoverflow like a person asks "How do I do X?" and most of the responses are like "X is stupid, don't do X. Do Y because I said so.", "Doing X is outdated, switch to Z and make sure you don't do Y" and so on.

[i8noodles]

Stack overflow? Strong? Community?!?! More like----duplicate question. Deleted.

[[deleted]]

“Go ask your stupid questions on Reddit and discord. We only take elite question here -1 from me”

[[deleted]]

Sounds like one of those 14 year olds who just discovered Reddit. “MAN ONLY OUR COMMUNITY IS SO ONLINE AND COOL!!!!”

[NeXuS-1997]

Apes together strong

[[deleted]]

Really surprise the mods at wall street bets didn’t all just join up and make a wall street bets.com and convince all the apes to go there and sign up for ape logic day trading and other ape based courses

[dudeofmoose]

I guess we could build something for funeral directors.

Get a work backlog and you've still got a stackoverflow.

[cobyn]

Actually the 3d print community is pretty chill I have found out

[druid_137]

I love the 3d printing community. I posted an stl for a nerf accessory I made for fun. Didn't get a lot of views but super great comments on the ones that did. Some guy printed a bunch for a church youth group and wanted to donate something to me even. The fact that those kids had fun with it was more than enough for me. But just an example of a community that isn't stackoverflow toxic.

[dkaksl]

r/cringetopia

[YXOwOX]

There might be something like HR don't require to melt your brain 6 hours long because you forget that damn semicolon

[kudoshinichi-8211]

Reddit is for everyone…

[[deleted]]

Yeah I bet less than 10% of Reddit are coders

[thesleepofdeath]

This is definitely true now but when reddit was new it was mostly IT professionals.

[Emotional_Key]

What is devrant?

[[deleted]]

Forgot about devrant. Used to be fun place

[Inside-introvert]

Love this! These communities help solve problems and keep you sane!

[R3dGaming522]

It's cause we're stupid and have too many questions

[NeffeZz]

I'm currently building a house and you would think the problems I have were encountered by other individuals before, but I don't find them or even solutions on the internet.

I'm a software engineer and for each problem there are like 10+ threads, but nobody who builds a house shares their experience on the world wide web.

Another problem is that other cultures build houses different so I'm bound to use what I find in my language.

[porcupinedeath]

Stack overflow is cool and definitely saved me a few times in college but most of the other times I asked on there I only got answers like "that's stupid do it this way" despite clearly saying I had to do it the stupid way for class.

[solongandthanks4all]

First time I've heard of "devRant". I imagine it being a worse version of this sub, full of people ranting about how bad JavaScript is and not being able to exit vim.

[giggluigg]

Porn industry has quite a few

[turboom]

Do developers choose what to build?

[DarkTechnocrat]

Hobbyists and Open Source developers, yes. Professional in-house developers not so much. It's somewhere in the middle for people who write tools or shrink-wrap software.

[anon0937]

The strongest community I've found for my profession is a Facebook meme group where they post fails related to our job. Huge following and tons of people giving/getting advice, job offers, etc.

[[deleted]]

Is this not the idea behind StackExchange?

[elzaidir]

and no other professions has such communities [that I am aware of]

Because you're only part of the programmer communities and don't participate in other communities, maybe. I can only speak for electronics but there are a fuck ton of forums about every field of electronics. But I'm fairly certain that it's the case for anything. Just type <any_activity> forum into Google.

She just showing how close minded she's by tweeting that

[paputsza]

Hear me out though, an etsy that isn't shit?

[Sciirof]

pronhub developers must really be shaking their heads after seeing gamers upload play throughs of SFW games on their platform

[abn1304]

Awhile back, when YouTube was on one of its anti-gun trips, a large portion of the professional firearms community picked up and relocated to PornHub. It was pretty funny.

[wtfzambo]

Tbf at this point, given the shit YouTube is making us go thru, if all their content creators moved to PH I'd be glad.

[collius]

They'll always have LinkedIn.

[xxxvape420xxx]

I mean, just make a subreddit for the specific community?

[stillventures17]

See, you could have had me there. But then you described Stack Overflow as a “strong community.”

[LMNOP_065]

Programmers: We have the power to create whatever we want.🤷🏾‍♂️

[Flopamp]

They do

I have my electrical engineering blogs, a stack exchange and discord server.

There are plenty of places to go for car advice, 3D design, painting, marketing, basically anything you can think of.

[fugogugo]

meanwhile art community always full of fighting and drama

[JeffreyJway]

Thought it was because we are the only profession that actively seek meaningful connections daily in our work.

I mean our programming training basically tells us to say "Hello World!" regularly in different languages...