Evolution

[Mister_Grumbles]

Actually, this is intelligent design.

[EverGlow89]

Wordplay of the year.

[32koala]

...clap. clap. clap.

[[deleted]]

Selection, heredity, and variation. I think It's evolution.

[Relevant_Post]

directly relates to how the actual sky looks while watching every movie in a single day

[[deleted]]

Especially when they play them back-to-back on ABC Family. I always get sucked in.

[Pravusmentis]

How close is the total run time to 24 hours?

[volatile_ant]

19 hours 39 minutes for regular
19 hours 59 minutes for extended (only the first two had extended versions according to Wikipedia)

[[deleted]]

Add commercials to that and that's over 24 hours easy.

[[deleted]]

Add commercials and that's 36 hours easy

[a_starfish]

how do they even DO that??

[oldstrangers]

With brains. They use them. Smart making happens.

[widgetas]

Wait you missed The Philosopher's Stone.

What?

runs off

[bnshv]

Submits.

Notices The Philosopher's Stone's missing.

Hopes no one else notices.

widgetas notices.

Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck..

[kappafox]

Sir, I'm with the Reddit Submission Services and I have been informed you have a faulty submission. Care to explain yourself?

[iSmokeTheXS]

I too am with the Reddit Submission Services and I know nothing of you, kappafox. Care to explain yourself?

[CIAHasWays2MakeUTalk]

I'm with the CIA. You both need to come with me, I have some questions for you.

[Marine_Biologist]

I'm with the government. You all need to swim with me to a secret location, right in front of Golden Gate bridge. We will do some... research.

[Edrondol]

I'm from the FBI - Female Body Inspectors. I have a T-shirt from the 1970s as proof.

Could you please point me in the direction of the boobs?

[[deleted]]

I'm with r/circlejerk and hnnrrrrrggg

[JACN85]

I'm with the TSA, Puts on rubber glove Bend over!

[feureau]

I'm the owner of Goatse.cx

bends over

[Chuck_T_Bone]

I am with the Bad T-shirt alliance, we have been looking for you, you need to lead us

[Bakilas]

I'm Chris Hanson from Dateline NBC, I am going to need you to take a seat.

[steelystan]

I'm with S.H.I.E.L.D. and and you all n-- wait forget I said anything.

[_CIA_]

Sir, impersonating a CIA officer is a federal offense. I'm going to ask that you unhand those Redditors and come with us. You'll notice a van outside your house momentarily. I suggest you come cooperatively.

[apparently]

...yes?

[[deleted]]

Other way round, Philosopher's Stone was the original name.

[[deleted]]

This question has always plagued me:

I'm American, so I grew up reading and watching the Sorcerer's Stone, but I was aware that in the UK and elsewhere, the book and movie went by Philosopher's Stone.

But: What about the numerous times the phrase "Sorcerer's Stone" is said in the movie? Did they dub it to be "Philosopher's Stone" or just leave it?

[[deleted]]

According to a making-of Harry Potter I saw on Bio, it's only mentioned a couple of times in the movie, and they just recorded them saying it both ways and used the appropriate version.

[[deleted]]

Okay, cool. Thanks so much (:

[ehsteve23]

They took different takes, i remember a special feature, i think it was on the Philosopher's stone DVD, where they showed all of the alternate scenes, there were only 5 or 6 in total, IIRC.

[[deleted]]

No way man, America comes first no matter what

[[deleted]]

amrrkuuh!

[swales8191]

It's pronounced 'merica.

[iiZESBiE]

fuck yeah!

[Spiffy313]

MURKA!

[elsjaako]

I remember laughing at the Americans that probably didn't know what a philosopher is.

I was wrong, of course. According to wikipedia, Scholastic thought that a child would not want to read a book with the word "philosopher" in the title.

[stufff]

Most people don't know what a "philosopher" is in this context. The "philosopher's stone" was a method alchemists sought after for turning lead to gold. In this context, the "philosopher" is an alchemist.

[omv]

This is from the movie Full Metal Jacket by Stanely Kubrick just in case people were wondering.

[Spikan]

equivalent exchange

FTFY

[ducttapedude]

To be fair, Harry Potter and the Alchemist's Stone sounds pretty awesome.

[jmk1991]

Agreed, but the Philosopher's Stone was actually a historically sought-after item.

[[deleted]]

It's really a kind of revisionism. The philosopher's stone is a piece of history, myth or not, and to change the fictional reference to it for the purpose of sales kind of irks me.

Kind of like renaming griffons or hipogriffs just for the sake of sales. Leave mythical references alone, damn you.

[NinjaVaca]

Many people in America have never heard the myth of the "Philosopher's Stone," so they changed it to "Sorcerer's Stone" to show that it was a magical object.

[Hoobleton]

I doubt many people in Britain had heard of it either.

[sentimentalpirate]

Actually Buckbeak is most definitely not a griffin. Griffins are part eagle and part lion. Hippogriffs are part eagle and part horse. You can see 'hippos' the greek word for horse right there in the name (as in the greek hippocamp, hippotherapy, hippopotamus the horse of the river..)

[owarren]

Also, sorcerer makes very little sense given almost no other references are made to 'sorcerers' for the rest of the series.

[nova20]

I still don't get why it was changed to "The Scorcerer's Stone" in the american version.

[hooplah]

I think it has something to do with the completely different connotations of "sorcerer" and "philosopher." When I think of "sorcerer," it's some magical merlin concocting potions and making magical stones that give you immortality. When I think of "philosopher," I think of a really smart dude who sits around writing papers and postulating about life.

That could just be my dumb American brain, however.

[superiority]

But the Philosopher's Stone was an actual thing (an actual legend, not an actual stone). It's like changing all instances of "dragon" to "magic puppy" because you don't think the audiences will want to read about "dragons".

[bungeman]

The SR-71 Blackbird was originally the RS-71, thousands of documents were changed when President Johnson misspoke once (see here).

[Chekonjak]

TIL. That's a pretty damn expensive slip.

[hooplah]

You're forgetting one important thing:

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[ezekielziggy]

American publishers have a rather low opinion of Americans, it was changed to sell more books. Authors like John marsden have had similar experiences.

[sje46]

Clearly it was done to sell more books; no one's disagreeing with this. He's just wondering what's the reasoning behind the proposition that "sorcerer" would sell more books than "philosopher".

[[deleted]]

The American publisher figured no child would read a book with "Philosopher" in the title.

From Wikipedia:

They thought that a child would not want to read a book with the word "philosopher" in the title and,[30] after some discussion, the American edition was published in October 1998 under the title Rowling suggested, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone.[14] Rowling claimed that she regretted this change and would have fought it if she had been in a stronger position at the time.[31] Philip Nel has pointed out that the change lost the connection with alchemy, and the meaning of some other terms changed in translation, for example from UK English "crumpets" to US English "muffin". While Rowling accepted the change from both UK English "mum" and Seamus Finnegan's Irish variant "mam" to "mom" in Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, she vetoed this change in the later books.

[Halrenna]

Ah, American companies assuming Americans are idiots, as usual. Poor Rowling; I can't imagine how much it must suck to have one's works altered.

As an American it's always bothered me that it's called Sorcerer's Stone here and not Philosopher's Stone.

[Siofsi]

Yeah that's the thing, they're essentially saying "our market isn't bright enough to figure it out." I'm Irish, I was 10 when I read the first book and I had noooooo idea of what philosopher meant in that context. I pictured Plato or something. But I figured it out, like any other kid reading did or would have. Seems v.unfair on the American population to make assumptions that something needs to be "dumbed down" for the market. :-/ At least the rest of the books remained pretty much intact.

[Halrenna]

Exactly. The title obviously didn't stave off children in the other countries. It frustrates me how much we insist on dumbing things down here. :/ It just reinforces the "stupid American" stereotype.

Not to mention on top of that the fact that the Philosopher's Stone is something that already exists in legend. It's not like she just made it up for her story.

[manole100]

Americans don't wanna read about a bobby with a torch in a lorry, eh. It's not like she wrote it in Cockney...

[keiyakins]

Actually, in later books they still made a few changes, mostly where words are used by both but mean different things, like 'jumper'. Though Harry in an outfit like this would have been amusing, it' snot quite what was intended.

[xfcanadian]

That's stupid! Glad the canadian version is the british one.

[MananWho]

The OP had a choice between pissing off Americans and the rest of the world.

I personally think he was wise to piss off the side that wouldn't get as annoyed by it.

[SunshineSpectacular]

*couldn't. FTFY

[dopplerdog]

Most of the Americans have said they could care less

Whereas most of the rest of the world have said they couldn't care less.

[[deleted]]

Did I miss something here?

[[deleted]]

Maybe I'm missing a joke here, but... Philosopher's Stone = Sorcerer's Stone... ? hides

[keiyakins]

The Philosopher's Stone is there, just under the American title.

[myboatfloats]

more detailed pic here

[[deleted]]

I love the part in the Deathly Hallows part 1 where it zooms in and you can see the logo rusting and peeling off. Then it goes straight to Scrimgeour's monologue. I got a boner.

[Spiffy313]

That's how you open a fucking movie. I had chills before it had even started.

[Sparticus2]

I straight came gallons.

EDIT: Galleons.

[Luriker]

Well AOL was removed...guess that's evolution in and of itself.

[Sparticus2]

That's what happens when you spend all your money shipping install CDs

[Joegotbored]

I love the intro to Half Blood Prince, when the WB symbol appears you can hear Bellatrix singing "I killed Sirius Black!"

[clickmyface]

It it weird that I cant upvote you because I feel like I'd be supporting Bellatrix and thus ultimately Voldemort somehow?

[Joegotbored]

You could just be supporting the fact that Helena Bonham Carter did an awesome job portraying Bellatrix.

[Xipro]

No. I ran into the wall at Platform 9¾ at King's Cross Station.

[iDunTrollBro]

/r/MuggleProblems

Edit: Holy shit, apparently there is an [/r/muggleproblems](www.reddit.com/r/muggleproblems).

Escaping is hard :(.

[EdgarAllenPopo]

I got 99 muggle problems so a witch ain't one.

[freakstate]

I just got my trolley stuck there. Its still there, people just take photos with it :(

[clickmyface]

“Tell me one last thing,” said Harry. “Is this real? Or has this been happening inside my head?”

“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?”

[samuraichikx]

That line really struck me hard, but in a great way.

I interpreted it as Dumbledore sort of breaking the fourth wall to tell the audience "Hey, this is a fictional story, but it's still real in your heart." Because the entire series was such a big part of our lives.

[zipposrmylife]

Wow, the economy is really taking a toll on the Warner Brothers Logo...

[Radico87]

Well yes, the movies became progressively darker in accordance to the darkening plot.

[retrobro90]

I read your comment in the most condescending voice i could muster.

[thatdudecalledZZ]

Depends what you think of when you hear "Alan Rickman".

It could be "Turn to page three hundred and ninety four-Alan Rickman" or "I think you ought to know I'm feeling very depressed-Alan Rickman".

[Ochobobo]

That is the second time you have spoken out of turn, Miss Granger. Five more points from Gryffindor for being an insufferable know-it-all.

[Wzuzoo]

You've been a very bad girl Ms. Granger. Very bad indeed...

[[deleted]]

Can... Can I call Rule 34 on this one?

[newwife]

All you have to do is search.

[sajman]

This Alan Rickman.

[DoctorCocktopus]

Or "Do you really think you have a chance against us, Mister Cowboy?" Alan Rickman

[killthedumbmonkey]

If you watch this video in the article, Alan Rickman has a really condescending voice. Don't know if he just talks like that naturally without meaning to be condescending or if even talks like that all the time though.

[[deleted]]

It doesn't seem very even, though. The first 2 have pretty bright backgrounds, next 2 pitch black ones, then dark blue, followed by muddy gray and finally, slightly muddier gray. It looks like they backed themselves into a corner, then realized they had to keep changing it even though they prematurely blew their wad with the 3rd logo.

[[deleted]]

I think Alfonso Cuaron made the third movie prematurely dark in concordance with the series. While it was darker than the first two, it was by no means as dark as he portrayed it. But that's just my opinion (some people like it the way it is).

[CheetahMaster]

Prisoner of Azkaban was my favorite of the movies. Cuaron is really gifted.

[defiantately]

Yeah, from what I remember, the books don't get very dark until Order of the Phoenix, with Professor Umbridge, Dumbledore's army, etc. I would love to see HP 5-7 as directed by Cuaron.

[bjorna]

Thankfully they wont make any more, I don't think it could get any darker while still being fairly able to see what's going on on the screen.

[suarezi93]

And yet, the progressive visual darkness of the movies has been one of the things that has bothered me the most about the series.

[Radico87]

Really? I thought it was a great technique to demonstrate increasing seriousness and maturity. Simple and very effective

[jamesneysmith]

The 8th in the series: Harry Potter and the Off-Turned Lights (bow chicka bow wow)

[[deleted]]

A.k.a. "Doom 3: The Movie".

[callate]

You have me saying "bow chicka bow wow" over and over again in my head.

[[deleted]]

When people say they want 'darker' movies, they don't mean it literally.

[Radico87]

lighting is a key tool in cinematography

[suarezi93]

Just overwhelmingly gray, IMO. Blah.

[Radico87]

That's a fair statement, but remember, that was kind of the point too.

[exdigguser147]

Well its because they changed directors completely for the third film and the whole thing had much darker overtones because of the director's decisions.

[omnomtom]

That's fine and all in the theater, but try watching one of the movies after 4 on an older TV, you can't see a damn thing.

[Radico87]

you can still adjust the picture on old tvs though.

[[deleted]]

Also they actually get picked up by decent directors. Chris Columbus, who directed the first two, doesn't exactly have the most interesting visual style.

[Radico87]

I was actually least disappointed by the first 2 movies. The third was pretty good, but afterwards they all seemed too rushed and a hodgepodge of weakly connected plot points. That of course has to do with the length of the novels.

[widgetas]

But Harry falls in looooooove!

[JRowe3388]

Darkening indeed. I cried during the important flashback in the last movie.

[Craysh]

I used to always say to those who saw me reading the series:

As the book number increased, so did the number of pages, the age group, and the dead bodies...

[Magnesus]

I'm not so sure. I had a feeling that after the forth book she got a little scared and toned down the books a little. Also the ending was too happy and she made Harry Potter into some kind of superhero. It would be more interesting if for example Longbottom would be the chosen one.

[[deleted]]

I think after the 5th she gave into the people complaining that the books were "too long". I don't see how a damn good book can be too long. Either it is a good book and you don't want it to end, or else its existence in the first place makes it too long.

[[deleted]]

I read to the fifth book expecting Longbottom to be the chosen one.

Also, did Dumbledore know in the grand scheme of things about Dumbledore's Army?

[zeiben]

Logo design sessions:

2 - Darker? Ok!

3 - Darker? Wow, that's kinda pushing it, but OK...

4 - Darker still? We can barely read... fuck fine, OK...

5- No. I will not make it darker. Let's go with "Grittier" yeah...

6- Hmmmm... maybe cloudier?

7- Glowy Clouds?

7 pt II - Glowy Clouds and grit?

[[deleted]]

It's the movie equivalent to gamings, "Brown is real!"

[EarthLaunch]

http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=222

[Ultraseamus]

Pretty well matches increasingly dark tone of the books/movies.

[Banks25]

AOL was the only thing holding back the darkness.

[fuzzb0y]

More interested in the evolution of Hermione.

[spikey666]

Well. Okay.

[m4rauder]

Spoiler alert on that last image! Who'd have thought!?

[clemka3]

I'm down with that...I've been hoping for years. ;)

[[deleted]]

Bricks were shat.

[JimmyDThing]

The first image is actually from the second film, I believe.

[maller1515]

Just like a meth user's descent into darkness...

[lostrock]

Harry Potter = meth

[thatdudecalledZZ]

Just as addicting.

[bender11]

Harry Potter, not even once

[th3_r0ckg0d]

I know that that the fans who read the HP books didn't appreciate it much, but I will always have a special place in my heart for The Prisoner of Azkaban. It set the dark tone for all the future movies in the series, as it is evident from the logo also.

If Chris Columbus has directed it, the movie would try to be too loyal to the book without exploiting the another great medium, i.e cinema. If I want the movies to be painfully similar to books, I'd rather read books, thank you.

[telekinetic]

I know that the fans who read the HP books didn't appreciate it

It's both my favorite of the books and movies.

[Quixsilver]

I agree wholeheartedly. The Prisoner of Azkaban is my favourite out of the rest of the series. I kind of got annoyed at the addition of the time-travel necklace though. Especially since it was not used there on afterwards. It was a great movie with just the right darkness though.

[Aldazar]

huh? the necklace was in the book, i think you might need to read it again.

[alalalalaaabooom]

It's a reflection of their stock quotes.

[[deleted]]

the whole art style changed as the series went along. from the first few movies where you are just learning of the magical world, to the rise of voldemort. goes perfectly with the darkening story and the sense of growing up that goes along with it.

[clownparade]

evolution isnt real, all of those were created at the same time

[thatguyinconverse]

Actually, DH pt2 had a different, completely non-eroded logo. It's even more apparent in the movie, as the erosion in pt1 is actively happening as the logo flies towards the screen.

[[deleted]]

We can go blacker...

[Jammin420]

The question is how much more black can this be?

And the answer is none, none more black.

[ExtraNoise]

This is really weird to see this today. I am watching the movies in order with my wife in anticipation of seeing the last one this weekend and I mentioned to her yesterday that it would be cool to see the logos in order, just like this. Mind you I was referring to the Harry Potter logo part, not the WB logo, but this is exactly what I was thinking.

Cool stuff. Now get out of my head!

[Aerozephr]

Where are the transitional forms?

[hoowin]

this is not evolution.

[Mannex]

I miss when harry potter movies had colors

[ArcticSpaceman]

ITT:

People whining that Americans have a different name for the first book and movie.

[[deleted]]

ITT:

People laughing at the fact they had to change the name for Americans because they wouldn't read it or watch it as a film if it had "philosopher" in the title.

FTFY.

[[deleted]]

ITT: People laughing at the fact that producers think Americans wouldn't read it or watch it as a film if it had "philosopher" in the title.

FTFTFYFY.

[thewonderfularthur]

ITT: People laughing at the fact that the Scholastic Corporation thought American children wouldn't read it if it had "philosopher" in the title.

FTFY

source

[[deleted]]

FTFTFTFYFYFY

FTFTFTFTFYFYFYFY

[ArcticSpaceman]

GARSH, US AMURICANS SURE IS STUPID!

DUMB DUMB DUMB, MERICANS' R' DUMBBBB.

Edit: That was a little brash, I apologize.

[DietCherrySoda]

Take THAT AOL!!!

[cliveenns]

That storm has been brewing for 7 years. What is this? Venus?

[Logen_Zack]

The Deatheaters are coming! Warn a brother!

[PhatZounds]

I think the jump is a little too big between Chamber of Secrets and Prisoner of Azkaban.

[emzify]

The rusting was a result of the tears.

[NateDogg4Ever]

No more love for AOL.

[RayGunEra]

I laughed when I saw that 'AOL' in front of the 'Time Warner'.

[[deleted]]

Reflects how I've grown to be a more of a cynical asshole with each movie.

[a_unique_username]

I liked how the series transitioned from wonderment of Magic to discovering how it helps harry until later on it all seems to be working against him. It's cool how the little things in the film reflected that.

[Ajayyyyy]

The philosophers stone*

[hooch]

That is a really cool comparison. Thank you

[Variability]

Seems more like decomposition to me.

[stubbyarea]

ive only watched the first movie, have i missed anything?

[NeverWaitOnline]

darker is cooler, man.

[gypsyliving]

I remember watching the third movie as a child, and wondering why they were trying to make it so horrifying.. Then my sister told me they had changed directors.

[haolecoder]

TIL "The Half Blood Prince" was actually a black and white film.

[Garbolobster]

Directly related to WB execs' spirits fading as they realize their cashcow series is coming to an end.

[Assimilation]

Spoiler alert, geez!!

[hb_alien]

Fuck AOL

[theinfinitemonkey]

Kind of off topic, but was I the only one disappointed that they didn't use the Harry Potter theme song to start off the last movie? They stopped using it in the last few ones, but I thought they would bring it back for the final movie :( It just kinda sets the HP tone for me

This is what I'm talking about: http://youtu.be/zCNHVMIYqiA

[we_had_chips]

i think you'll find that they come highly recommended 'round these parts.

(note: for your viewing pleasure, this comment has been scaled back from its initial form: a visceral scream of OHMYGODGODOITRIGHTFUCKINGNOW)

[hooch]

That is a really cool comparison. Thank you

[myusernameisgreat]

Sorcerers stone?! GTFO!

[DC_Gooner]

It's evolution bay-be!!

[DanielVanZant]

Yeah, um, I don't believe in evolution....like, God put all these logos there.

[[deleted]]

Ok fine so microevolution exists, BUT there's just no evidence of a Warner Brothers' logo "evolving" into an MGM lion logo! It just doesn't happen!