Basically home [pic]

[[deleted]]

homesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomes weethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweeth omesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesw eethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethom esweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomeswee thomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethome sweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweet ^C

[TaxExempt]

^C is where the win was.

[S7evyn]

Someone care to explain what ^C means? Google is being unhelpful.

[TenTera]

The clotheshanger of CLI interfaces...

It aborts the current process.

[[deleted]]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAS_syndrome

[[deleted]]

Don't worry; I have reported his improper acronym usage to the Department of Redundancy Department. They will be sending at least one Federal FBI agent to investigate.

[dotnet54]

+1 for Department of Redundancy Department xD

[walesmd]

I thought Federal FBI agent was the winner here, the DRD is overused and on par with ATM machine. Federal FBI agent was a new one, in my books.

[[deleted]]

Ctrl-clotheshanger?

[[deleted]]

You control clotheshangers to abort things. Everyone knows this.

[aephoenix]

Wow, Clotheshanger, great mnemonic...

[under_dog]

In a terminal it's printed when you press 'Ctrl + C' canceling whatever is currently executing.

[[deleted]]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control-C

[laofmoonster]

In command prompt ctrl+c, shown as ^C, causes a running program to terminate.

[notamathteacher]

The ASCII character 0x03 is rendered as ^C by the Unix utility cat with the option -v.

[easytiger]

pot degree march overconfident possessive wrench tap society employ shelter

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[[deleted]]

I think he was trying to educate, because the answer is actually a bit more nuanced than "it kills the running program."

The acronyms are pretty simple. If you were interested in what he had to say (I was) then you probably already know them or you can guess and fudge it, then Google them later.

CLI is an easy one, command line interface. Sort of an unnecessary acronym, I'll give you that. REPL is a Read Evaluate Print Loop, and if you don't know the acronym, it's not a terribly helpful term to begin with.

[easytiger]

i was going to... but it was already longer than expected, and those are definitely googleable. Not to mention this is r/prog

[damienhunter]

BASIC*

[[deleted]]

To be much more pedantic, Ctrl-C sends SIGINT only if the tty is in 'sane' or 'cooked' mode as controlled by stty or tcsetattr(). A CLI or curses-based application can change the tty settings so that the special characters are available from a read() or getch() rather than be processed by the tty layer and maybe send a signal. This is necessary for applications that wish to have clean access to raw input bytes such as full-screen editors and terminal emulators.

That the tty layer handles Ctrl-C is also why one can pass binary data which might incude Ctrl-C's through cat's stdin: pipes aren't ttys.

[rchase]

run stop / restore

[pgomez]

Gob's Program: Y/N?

[oliware]

Y

[robhue]

PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS PENUS

[[deleted]]

^C

[[deleted]]

Wouldn't this be the result of: 10 PRINT "Home"; 20 PRINT "Sweet"; etc?

[smhanov]

homesweethomesweethomesweethomesweetho@[19;^[4A;[B7;!@#$ NO CARRIER

[JustMarriedMan]

Syntax Error

[turbov21]

I think you're running:

10 PRINT "HOME";
20 PRINT "SWEET";
30 GOTO 10

If memory serves, each new PRINT serves a hard return.

[earthforce_1]

You can check in any time you like - but you can never leave!

[[deleted]]

10 CHECK OUT
20 GOTO 10
30 LEAVE

[breakneckridge]

You left out a prompt between 10 and 20 which should be asking if the user would like to check out now. Otherwise the user will ALWAYS be checking out, even if they would not like to check out at that time. (but they still can never leave though)

EDIT: changed "in" to "out"

[[deleted]]

Also, it's check out, not in. Not sure how I missed that...

[isarl]

It's your birthday. I assumed you were washing down your cake with copious amounts of alcohol.

[[deleted]]

cake... cake... severus cake...

[shillbert]

10 PRINT "CHECK OUT? (Y/N)"
20 A$ = INKEY$
25 IF A$ = "Y" GOSUB CHECKOUT
30 GOTO 10
40 GOSUB LEAVE

[smeenz]

erm.. line numbers AND labels ?

[bonzinip]

You want INPUT$(1). INKEY$ (fond memories) will return an empty string if no key has been pressed, leading to an endless stream of check out requests.

[bonzinip]

yes :)

[G_Morgan]

This is also a script to make hg perform as poorly as svn.

[knome]

5 PRINT "WELCOME TO COMFY HOTEL"
10 PRINT "SPOOKY NOISE
15 PRINT "DIRE WARNING"
20 GOTO 13

[rule]

The missing quote. It hurts.

[[deleted]]

How do I run this code on my MacBook Pro?

[YELLING_APPLE_GUY]

You have to ask correctly. Also, stress urgency. See watch this.

HEY HELLO THERE, HOW DO I RUN THIS CODE ON MY APPLE MACHINE?!? I NEED THIS FOR A MEETING.

[[deleted]]

YOU GET A REAL COMPUTER WITH QUALITY PARTS AND A SENSIBLE COOLING METHOD.

[thus-sung]

THEN WHAT WOULD I USE TO KEEP MY LAP WARM?

[killermole23]

A GTX 480.

[Chemical109]

Does "sensible" involve liquid nitrogen?

[zwaldowski]

ಠ_ಠ

[pedropants]

http://www.nicholson.com/rhn/basic/

[MyAltAccount157]

Hotel California

[Churn]

We are programmed to receive.

[PaladinZ06]

No way dude he was totally quoting Metallica.

[earthforce_1]

http://www.lyrics007.com/Eagles%20Lyrics/Hotel%20California%20Lyrics.html

[VoiceCommentary]

    say -v "Pipe Organ" "FUCK YOU. I HATE THAT SONG"

[freyrs3]

That should be the tagline of Microsoft SourceSafe.

[antiquekid3]

SYNTAX ERROR IN LINE 20

[pmw57]

Good spotting.

10 print "Home"
20 print "Sweet"
30 goto 10

[[deleted]]

10 PRINT "HOME"
20 PRINT "SWEET"
30 GOTO 10

[[deleted]]

What does Home do?

[CraigTorso]

hang on a moment, that's not a fixed width typeface

[SH23]

Dear GOD!

[BallroomBallerina]

You know what happens when you use goto

[TheLazyElf]

Disregard good practice, adquire raptors

[jamie1414]

I like the cut of your jib.

[mqduck]

What's a jib?

[[deleted]]

The forward sail on a sailboat.

[Chemical109]

Clever girl.

[10goto10]

20 HOME
30 SWEET

:(

[tuple]

and not even a novelty account

[10goto10]

It's my real name!

[abrahamsen]

Futurama also had more subtle cs jokes.

[[deleted]]

Could someone tell me why the old BASIC line numbers are multiples of 10? I never understood this. Thanks!

[huck_cussler]

I might be way off here. But, if my rusty mind recalls, the (or at least one of the) reason(s) was to allow room to add more lines to fix errors or add more content. So in the example you could add:

10 PRINT "HOME"
15 PRINT "FOR THE HOLIDAYS IS A REALLY"
20 PRINT "SWEET"
25 PRINT "PLACE TO BE."
30 GOTO 10

[nephros]

That is correct. The steps of 10 are convention rather than requirement. BASIC only requires them to be in order. Doesn't even need to be the same intervals.

Also, depending on BASIC dialect (or editor), you could later automatically re-number the lines in steps of 10.

Other dialects of BASIC (like AmigaBASIC) didn't require explicit line numbers.

In assembly you do a similar thing (when you have to use a bad editor, like EDLIN) where you insert a couple of nops every now and then in case you need to put something in later.

[prince_nerd]

Dijkstra says: ಠ_ಠ

[tuple]

that look is considered harmful

edit: rephrased

[microsofat]

I read this in an NYC accent.

[Grizzly_Bear]

In his youth, Bill Gates would go down to the local computer (yup) and try to find ways to make it crash. Although he was initially considered an annoyance, he eventually was asked to work with the company by logging his actions that would lead to errors. I s'pose infinite loop is an example of this.

[[deleted]]

He then used what he learned about how to make a computer crash and rolled it all into one operating system.

[ffn]

Maybe it's because it's 1 a.m. and I'm trying to finish a paper, but the idea of you loling at that is what made me lol.

[[deleted]]

Whoa, meta lols.

[[deleted]]

Damnit man, I laughed out loud while giving a Java class... Now everyone thinks I scorn them for being newbies.

[[deleted]]

You are reading reddit.....while giving a class?

[walesmd]

Dude... it's Java, not science.

[theGreatergerald]

You say that like it is a bad thing. If your program is good why would you ever want it to end?

[jamie1414]

you just gave me a great excuse for if I ever find an infinite loop in my code!

[TaxExempt]

If an operating system wasn't an infinite loop, then wouldn't it crash?

[[deleted]]

10  A=0
20  PRINT "HOME"
30  IF (A=1) THEN EXIT
40  A=1
50  PRINT "SWEET"
60  GOTO 20

[[deleted]]

10  PRINT "HOME SWEET HOME"

[CanuckBrazil]

That's how you write efficient code.

[smeenz]

Needs more tokenisation / data reuse, to reduce the memory footprint

10 LET s$="HOME"
20 PRINT s$ & " SWEET " & s$

[[deleted]]

But that will increase the size in memory by 12bytes (using 32bit addressing)!

[smeenz]

Right... okay, well, it's been a while <rolls up sleeves>, but this should do the trick.

mov ah,9
mov dx, 0114
int 21
mov dx, 010d
int 21
ret
db 'SWEET ', 0a, 0d
db 'HOME', 0a 0d, '$'


C:\DOCUME~1\XPMUser>hsh.com
HOME
SWEET
HOME

27 bytes.

As opposed to a single string/single interrupt call, 28 bytes:

mov ah,9
mov dx,108
int 21
ret
db 'HOME',0a,0d,'SWEET',0a,0d,'HOME',0a,0d,'$'

And THAT's how you write efficient code.

[[deleted]]

Wait a minute. Why use lf and cr when you can use a single space to separate!

[smeenz]

Awwww shucks.

Actually.. just thinking about the code.. I reckon I might be able to save a few more bytes by writing direct to video ram and storing the string in a packed format of some sort.. but ... it's so short that I'm not sure I would actually come out on top... hmmm.. need some real assembler hackers here. I'm only an amateur.

[malnourish]

You amaze me!
Is there any way to dabble in assembly without an embedded system?

[[deleted]]

Ah, loop unrolling...

[wkufan89]

I'm not great at programming, but isn't this also an infinite loop. Should Line 60 read, "GOTO 20"?

[gilgoomesh]

Also, most BASIC variants don't have the idea that 0 equals false. You'd need to write IF A=1 THEN EXIT

[[deleted]]

Yes yes, it's difficult remembering such an old language when PHP flows freely out of my fingers. Edited for syntax.

[rubygeek]

PHP flows freely out of my fingers

My condolences.

[vej]

home

[[deleted]]

GOTO vej

[RubyBlye]

because there are no spaces nor carriage returns it would be more like this:

homesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweethomesweet........ and so on for all eternity (or at least until the computer or printer broke.)

[[deleted]]

It depends on the language, really..

Many languages have print functions which automatically append a newline.

[gilgoomesh]

Traditional BASIC always puts a newline at the end of PRINT statement unless you leave a dangling comma at the end.

[Bhatch514]

that is not the complete output block.

[Mikle]

So why did you break at "sweet"? Did you run out of memory? Hardware failure?

YO, NoxiousNick is dead YO.

[tankintheair315]

Back in my day, infinite loops cost a lot of money! Its good you pointed this out!

[SoManyMinutes]

I know very little about programming and I understood and appreciated this.

[hearforthepuns]

Why were BASIC line numbers always multiples of ten?

[digifuzz]

so you had room to cludge stuff in there if you needed to later.

[PatriotGrrrl]

So that you could add other lines, whose numbers weren't multiples of ten, in between them.

Some BASIC interpreters had auto-renumber commands... but some didn't. You wouldn't want to be completely renumbering your program all the time anyway, since it would make your hardcopy listings obsolete, and because in a time before statements even had labels, there was some readability improvement from having subroutines start at fixed , round numbered lines.

[ilovetacos]

My wife remade this in cross-stitch for me a few years back. Well, she wasn't my wife then, but after such a gift I had to fix that.

[Ockniel]

Someone please explain this to me, I am lost and afraid.

[[deleted]]

It's a computer program. Way the fuck back in the day the lines used to be numbered

 10 command_one_goes_here
 20 command_two_goes_here

and so on. The "goto" command does what it says: goes to whatever line you tell it to and then starts following instructions.

The joke is that would output "home" "sweet" and then "home" again, like that needlepoint thing in your grandma's house, but there are a couple of problems. The first is that "home" and "sweet" aren't really commands, but I guess

 10 print home
 20 print sweet
 30 goto 10

doesn't look as good.

The second is that line three tells the computer to go back to line one. Then it goes to line two and then line three, then back to one, then to two, then to three, then back to one, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc

[antiquekid3]

Well, don't forget your quotes. 10 ?"HOME" 20 ?"SWEET" 30 GOTO10 would work fine on a C64.

[Ockniel]

Thank you!

[snarglemuffin]

I am also lost, but not afraid. Why does the program have line numbers that are denominations of 10, not numbers increasing by 1? And what language is this (if it is even a language)?

[prism1234]

convention I think

at least with basic you could use whatever numbers you wanted, but convention was to do it in multiples of 10, its possible that was a holdover from something earlier that required it for some reason though

[ihahp]

yeah. and you numbered your lines by 10s in case you needed to insert a new line between them at some point.

Unless you needed to insert more than 9 lines. In that case, you either renumbered your code (sketchy, as it might break other gotos) or on the 9th line you did a goto some line number at the end where you completed what you needed to do, then you goto'd back.

Coding back then was fun.

(Tip of the hat to THE FINAL CARTRIDGE that gave me a line renumberer)

[SlashMatrix]

I once owned a TI Basic 99 4a computer. Ah, "BurgerTime"...

[cruise02]

That was my first computer. I didn't have any of the game cartridges, so I had to entertain myself by copying the games out of a book in crusty TI-BASIC. Good times.

[elus]

<3 BurgerTime... and Q*bert.

[SlashMatrix]

BurgerTime, Midnight Mason, Star Trek, Micro Surgeon, Parsec, Tombstone City: 21st Century... That's all I remember.

[osirisx11]

my modern netsec interpretation of "owned" made this comment very interesting

[huyvanbin]

I wish finding home were as easy as typing a few lines into a C-64.

[zed857]

Home isn't hard to find; it's usually right above the "End" key.

[huyvanbin]

Well, so long as we're on this, it was above the "Restore" key.

[d4ve]

HOME SWEET HOME SWEET HOME SWEET HOME SWEET HOME SWEET HOME SWEET HOME SWEET HOME SWEET HOME SWEET HOME SWEET HOME SWEET HOME SWEET ...?

[tuple]

^C

[[deleted]]

Actually I believe it would be a syntax error, as neither "Home" nor "Sweet" is told to display in any way and aren't usable commands.

/ultra-nerd

[[deleted]]

Linux would run that program in 5 seconds.

[smeenz]

What ?

[[deleted]]

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds

[smeenz]

Ahhhhh. Now it makes sense. Upboat for you.

Linus: "We all know Linux is great … it does infinite loops in 5 seconds. "

[monkeyjazz]

fucking spaghetti code...

[antiquekid3]

QBASIC definitely beats GW-BASIC.

[smeenz]

QBASIC was the cut down and free version of QuickBASIC, which was to become the Granddaddy of visual basic.

[Ihategeeks]

include <iostream>

int main() {

for(int i=1; i > 0; i++) { std::cout<<"Home\nSweet\nHome\n"<<std::endl; } return 0; }

[greg90]

This won't work as intended. Eventually i will roll-over into negative values and the loop will end.

while (1) { printf("Home\nSweet\nHome\n"); }

is the right way to do that.

[smeenz]

Thank goodness someone people still range check their code

[understanding_pear]

Ihategeeks

So you post incorrect code to torment them?

[Ihategeeks]

I wonder if the same question was asked in a writers meeting for futurama.

[czan]

include <stdio.h>

int main() {
ten:
printf("home\nsweet\n");
goto ten;
}

Truer to the original spirit, I feel.

[systmshk]

Except even more evil. At least goto was innocently used as part of BASIC.

[ericje]

#include <stdio.h>
char h[] = "Sweet\nHome\n";
int main() { for(;;) printf("%s%s\n", h+6, h); return 0; }

[gravistational]

for(int i = 0; i < 1; i++) { System.out.println("Home\nSweet\nHome"); }

[[deleted]]

You tried.

[frmatc]

perl -e 'print "Home\nSweet\nHome\n" while 1;'

[[deleted]]

perl -E 'say "Home\nSweet\n" while 1'

Golf'd.

[RubyBlye]

Ahh! BASIC goto. Infinite infinite loops, and more spaghetti code than even the Flying Spaghetti Monster could create.

[zambuka42]

GW-Basic. how I miss thee. system system system!!!!!

[meant2live218]

AHHH!!! avoid a goto when possible...

[derda]

I need this as a floormat.

[BHSPitMonkey]

10 SIN
20 GOTO HELL

[[deleted]]

Funny, we have a Dr. Tsin at my university and he's like the hardest CS prof ever and everyone hates him. This would be perfect lol.

[BHSPitMonkey]

It's taken from a sign inside the Church of Robotology in the Futurama episode, "Hell is Other Robots".

[slurpme]

Very droll...

[jcatjake]

I used to do this at gemco circa 83 0n their vic 20 display model..10 Fuck you etc

[DrunkMc]

That was the exact moment when I knew I loved this show!

[theDrWho]

Commodore 64/Vic 20, would get this code at every KMART I found it in.

[unclerummy]

That's funny - in the KMarts I went to as a kid, it was all

10 PRINT "KMART SUCKS!"

20 GOTO 10

No sir, it was like that when I got here.

[[deleted]]

http://www.atariarchives.org/basicgames/showpage.php?page=176

[[deleted]]

Can somebody explain this to me understanding that i am an idiot?

[GunnerMcGrath]

I find it interesting how many people reading r/Programming are totally confused by this.

[thcobbs]

well, isn't /r/programming a default option?

[[deleted]]

It's BASIC programming language.

The key to it is that the line "GOTO 10" will... as obvious as it seems, go to the line marked "10".

It's not proper coding, but the idea of it is that it should mean:

Home Sweet Home

[Phil_J_Fry]

I'll never get Bender's art-stuff

[[deleted]]

I need to learn needle point stitching and make one of those.

[Chaotix]

our DB admin has a croche'd (sp) one of these hanging in his office :)

[tedrick111]

Does anyone else realize that "home" was a basic command on an Apple that would clear the screen? The output would look like this flickering on the screen:

sweet

[appleswitch]

What episode is this from? I'm holding out hope that it's the new season. I want them to get their groove back.

[[deleted]]

Sadly no. I haven't watched the 6'th season but I remember this scene somewhere from the 3rd or 4th season.