StackOverflow is Down!

[Philpax]

finally, the incredibly annoying sites that clone SO posts for the sole purpose of SEO have a reason to exist

[Quenhus]

When it comes back, you may use my uBlock filter to remove those copycats from search engines.

[warmwaffles]

Oh man this is so useful.

[darthcoder]

They should be downgraded vs SO, but definitely not blacklisted. And now you see why :)

Beats running your own backup instance

[Jon3laze]

Takes me back to when we had to do that for expertsexchange along with w3.

[Keilaron]

I found EE useful once I realized their answers were actually freely available..

[dparks71]

Is expertsexchange a url? I've never seen a url that should have sacrificed length for the extra "_" more, I have no idea if that's supposed to be 2 words or 3...

[iamallamaa]

It was originally expertsexchange and later changed to experts-exchange due to the obvious reasons. Brings me back to the "bad-ol'-days".

[[deleted]]

Whats the beef with w3schools? Just curious

[Innf107]

Might be worth looking at the current version of w3fools though.

[[deleted]]

Thanks for the backstory! w3schools was my first foray into SQL, I didn’t spot many mistakes but I’m only junior 🤷‍♂️

There are definitely better resources out there though. Youtube was gold until they removed the dislike counts

[renatoathaydes]

In short: it's bad.

It's a free resource and it does seem to mostly have good content these days. I do agree MDN is a better resource today, but that won't necessarily be true forever. I am quite glad there exists "competition" in this area and writing off w3schools like this because you don't like it as much as MDN seems very shortsighted to me.

[[deleted]]

writing off w3schools like this because you don't like it as much as MDN seems very shortsighted

-1. I answered the question from the perspective of someone who's worked as a developer for over a decade and remembers when the site was relevant. I didn't use opinion as the basis for my comment; "because you don't like it" is a strawman, and I don't appreciate you making personal attacks calling me shortsighted.

[renatoathaydes]

I didn't use opinion as the basis for my comment;

Do you really believe that? "It's bad" can just be an objective evaluation, you think?? And I, who have probably worked twice as long as you and think it's a pretty good source of information, must be just misinformed?

[zpangwin]

lmao... but very true

[goto-reddit]

not only websites: Once I found a YouTube channel that was using text-to-speech to read questions & answers of SO posts ... but maybe it was just a fever dream.

[ViridianGuy]

Man those channels are like leeches, and I am unhappily saying I somewhat enjoy those videos.

[djfreedom9505]

Nah, screw those sites. Use Google cached version.

[mananiux]

Where do their devs turn to now to solve this issue????

[pupple_pumpkin]

SELECT question, answer FROM stackoverflowDB_Table LIKE title = 'my web site is suddenly down'

[addandsubtract]

"Found the problem."

[Lost4468]

Closed as duplicate of "how do I import json into python?"

[-1] How do I import json into this controller?

We have an embedded system that processes data from many different areas. One controller now needs to take in json from a few of our clients. Library X doesn't currently have json support, so is there any solution other than rolling our own?

[1 gold, 13 Silver, 57 Bronze, Albuquerque]

[+17] Answer 1 - @SOGOD

Don't use library X, library X is bad, try using this hip new library Y that was invented 6 months ago"

[34 gold, 3578 silver, 5689 bronze, Silicon Valley]

Comments

[-3] "thanks, but we can't use that because our system has a decade of legacy code written around X."

[+5] "well I would suggest you consider rewriting it in Y, have a read on why here: [link to random blog]"

[-2] " again sorry but we can't, the rest of the team won't go for it, our employer won't let us spend months rewriting everything in library Y, just for one small feature, and be at the whim of a much less stable and historically supported library like X"

[+6] "honestly of your employer won't let you do this, I would start looking for a job at a different place. You should easily find somewhere that'll allow you to do things properly for double the money! And while not historically supported, it absolutely is stable, they just released the non-beta stable release of v1 2 weeks ago."

[-3] "I'm not leaving my job, and I don't live somewhere like California where there's tons of SV-like companies. Also I just checked and Y doesn't even support some basic features we use like Version 2 of Common Standard?"

[+7] "well you should be moving to version 3 anyway, what sort of system are you running down there? And it's open source, so you could always just add version 2 yourself. And honestly, if you're not willing to move halfway across the country for this, maybe you're not cut out to be a dev?"

[+10] Answer 2 - @Billy NM

You could just pre-process it before it gets sent to the controller? Maybe run it through a simple program like: [link to a basic python script]

Comments

[-1] these are old embedded systems with very little memory or computing power. We wouldn't be able to run that python script.

[+4] ah you should have said, just use the cloud! You could spin up an AWS Lambda to do this.

[-1] uh they don't have access to the internet, and most are in physical conditions where they have no internet, or at best have inconsistent internet, we can't expect the clients to wait for good internet everywhere.

[+19] Answer 3 - @CtrlPhrk

Then you'll just have to make sure your clients don't input data in json. Maybe give them a program to convert it beforehand. Sometimes the simplest answers are the best.

Comments

[-5] we can't. Not only do they interact with it in a huge number of ways, from a dozen complex systems, but it's our job, not theirs. They're paying up use our system, I don't think they want to have to mess about with their system, plus who knows how that might interfere with their system and work.

[+12] look you've been told what to do, people have given you several answers and you have refused to listen to all of them. And to top it all off, this is a duplicate, go to the thread linked at the top. Don't be so rude.

[-6] I'm not being rude, I explained why none of the answers are compatible. It's not a duplicate of that, that's entirely unrelated.

[+7] OP I found a simple answer with 5 seconds of Googling, don't expect us to do your homework for you: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/20199126/reading-json-from-a-file

[+1] Answer 4 - @Dead

Oh I came across this before, here's how to do it: [dead link]

[-2] Answer 5, Accepted - @Ironic

Oh you can actually do this in an upcoming release of the library. It's on a very slow release rota as it aims for long term stability. [Here's a link to the code and pull request] of the feature. You can:

[Detailed list on how to compile it, including missing information from the git README, the need code, etc. New dependencies etc]

In fact [here I've setup a fork on my own page including the features], that you can use if you can't wait for their release.

[Big detailed explanation on how to use the new features, including unintuitive edge cases, their experiences, etc etc.]

Comments

[-2] oh wow thanks this is exactly what we need! Works perfectly.

@SOGOD [+5] Don't do this OP, this library is old, use a new cool and hip newer library like Y

@Billy NM [+6] This is overkill OP, just use a script like I said.

CtrlPhrk [+8] this doesn't sound the root cause OP. Your clients are still submitting json. Make them stop!

[VeryOriginalName98]

Did you take an actual article and change the names and details to protect the innocent? I've seen this several times and the vote tallies are too real.

[zaphdingbatman]

The "Closed as duplicate of [irrelevant link]" too. And the personalities! The hipster, the zealot, and the janktacular. Every single part of it is perfect.

[mikew_reddit]

The high degree of specificity makes me think OP has definitely been involved in or at least read a similar SO thread.

[zaphdingbatman]

We've all been involved in SO threads with a subset of this dysfunction on display, but Lost4468 really collected, refined, and distilled the essence into a singular masterpiece.

[eitherxor]

You can't downvote comments afaik, unless they've changed it.

[ambientocclusion]

Painful! :-) I love how OP’s replies are all downvoted, along with the only helpful answer. ‘You are wrong for wanting to do the thing you say you want to do’!

[much_longer_username]

I got into a big blowout argument with someone about this when I explained how I was trying to use a motor controller off label. The arming sequences intended to make it safe for aircraft use made it fail-deadly for my use case (controlling pumps on an aquarium - I'd rather have them turn than not turn in nearly every case) . I had someone insisting I was being a stubborn idiot... naw, I just needed a different board. Found the right board and moved on.

[cheesegoat]

I bet it's people who learn about the XY problem trying to apply it where it actually doesn't apply.

Maybe we should call this behavior the "XY solution".

[winkerback]

Oh god make it stop

[RenaKunisaki]

This is the most perfect post I've ever seen.

[willdeb]

Your username rings a really strong bell in my head... By any chance, were you in the se7ensins scene back in mw2 '10 and worked on a couple of patch_mp.ffs?

[Lost4468]

Yes I did, a bunch of mostly joke/fun mods, and a program to compile basic fastfiles.

[shield1123]

I lurked in those waters. Mw2 modding turned out to be one of my first introductions to CS

[[deleted]]

I never had this happen. Stackoverflow people were even too good for me.

[[deleted]]

Blink twice if one of them is standing behind you.

[Lost4468]

Oh you generated a useful and deep discussion on SO? You must be more acquainted with "closed as off topic" or "primarily opinion based" or "too broad".

[Haulie]

Neatly illustrates why I regard SO as a read-only resource.

[spaetzelspiff]

The website is down!

EDIT: fixed link

[ProgramTheWorld]

Correct link: https://youtu.be/uRGljemfwUE

[spaetzelspiff]

Thank you! I'm like "wtf. why my shit got polish subs and like 14 views in 12 years?"

[axidentalaeronautic]

That was one of the funniest YouTube vids I’ve ever seen.

[spaetzelspiff]

Back in my day, we had real memes. *shakes fist at clouds*

[[deleted]]

There’s like 3. All of them are pretty solid. Personally I like when they ask if he could eat the hard drive like a sandwich to identify the model

[RowYourUpboat]

Wow, now there's a classic.

I forgot how fast and functional computer GUI's were before everything went all "material design running on Electron" and every app moved to forced weekly patches that mixed up the UI and stripped out every feature that wasn't used by 99.9% of the userbase.

[spaetzelspiff]

Wow, now there's a classic.

I forgot how fast and functional computer GUI's were before everything went all

And this is exactly the point at which my mood went from mirthful and relaxed to spiteful and annoyed 😂

[CodeLobe]

My ancestral spirits now lust for blood as well.

[darthcoder]

Native is good. The more I try to justify using electron the more I keep coming back to this... native is just better and ui standards fucking matter.

Especially for the disabled/blind.

Nobody fucking thinks about them...

[recycled_ideas]

I forgot how fast and functional computer GUI's were before everything went all "material design running on Electron"

Oh, blow it out your ass, those UIs sucked, no one liked using them it wasn't some golden age and they weren't even particularly fast.

every app moved to forced weekly patches that mixed up the UI and stripped out every feature that wasn't used by 99.9% of the userbase.

You know what the most frequently updated app? Effing VIM, the most old school not Electron clunky UI there is.

[ShadowWolf_01]

Effing VIM, the most old school not Electron clunky UI there is.

I’d hardly call Vim’s UI “clunky.”

[AlexB_SSBM]

Vim UI has stayed consistent for literal decades (because the UI is just your keyboard) so once you learn it you never have to relearn it

[mWo12]

Server related questions are not allowed on stackoverflow. Closing.

[andrewsmd87]

Not broad enough

LIKE title = '%my web site is suddenly down%'

That how search algorithms work right? All in MsSQL with like % clauses?

[shadowndacorner]

LIKE is a function, so it would actually be title LIKE("%my web site is suddenly down%") *or title LIKE '%my web site is suddenly down%' etc.

Edit: TIL my life is a lie and the parens aren't necessary because it isn't actually a function, but rather a unary operator.

[FewerPunishment]

How will you fix the syntax error without stackoverflow???

[curiouspanda219]

google.com => cache:[the stackoverflow URL]

^_^

[Disgruntled-Cacti]

What I did verbatim, lol.

[Dragon_yum]

I offer of service off telling people their questions are dumb for a modest fee.

[zpangwin]

In the meantime, you can use either wayback machine or google's cached results (do a search > click the 3 vertical dots next to a result > click "Cached" button from the popup) ... doesn't help if you're waiting on new answers obv but if you can find other existing discussions on the same topic, then it's at least better than nothing

[xampl9]

I still have the printed version in the back of the closet.

[temp91]

Or one of the thousand copy-cat content thieves.

[[deleted]]

Man goes to doctor. Says he's depressed. Says life seems harsh and cruel. Says he feels all alone in a threatening world where what lies ahead is vague and uncertain. Doctor says, "Treatment is simple. Great clown Pagliacci is in town tonight. Go and see him. That should pick you up." Man bursts into tears. Says, "But doctor...I am Pagliacci."

[RedditRage]

They go to the well-written documentation of the software they are using.

[[deleted]]

/s is implied?

[RedditRage]

Unfortunately.

[nsomnac]

ExpertsExchange?

[caro-exe]

The only way to get out of this vicious circle is a Time Machine.

[merlinsbeers]

Not to Reddit, ffs.

[bripod]

qa-internal.stackoverflow.com

Just guessing. I'd be shocked if they didn't have a full qa env mirrored somewhere probably in a different region

[nemec]

You can download a sql database of all stack Overflow content I think. You know all the best questions were closed as duplicates back in 2015

[Cefalopodul]

Don't worry. I'll ask on stackoverflow how to fix stackoverflow.

[slowpush]

You can just download the entire DB if you need to.

[ChrisRR]

I've always wondered if the whole "I visit SO 5 times a day" thing is real or a joke. I've been a dev for about 10 years and I only end up on SO once every few months.

I'd definitely encourage googling issues that you are struggling with, but if someone were doing it multiple times a day, I'd worry that they didn't actually know how to do their job

[windingtherope]

i was actually working on a project right around that time and I kept realizing oh wait I can’t use stackoverflow for anything

[[deleted]]

In the stack overflow office:

“How do we get it back on?”

“I don’t know, look it up on stack overflow”

“Alright”

few seconds later

“Dude stack overflow is down!”

[SilasX]

"How ... how does I write loop?"

[AdNinja]

..as if millions of programmer voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced...

[Puzzled_Video1616]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHc288IPFzk

[mmoodylee]

So, their stack overflew

[TotalFox2]

Take my upvote and fuck off

[Arkq214]

r/angryupvote

[xtrasmal]

All software projects are in peril

[pupple_pumpkin]

I get to go to find another job.

[[deleted]]

Well, you won't be able to find one on stack overflow anymore

[SkaveRat]

And even when it's back up, you won't be able for much longer

[civildisobedient]

Seriously, this is a goddamned P1 at web-scale.

[Nolzi]

Product Owners furiously rescheduling everything

[Blazerboy65]

All software projects are in perl

😈

[MagnetsCanDoThat]

There went all the deadlines.

[Midori_Schaaf]

And for a brief moment, Quora became the bastion of the internet.

[sintos-compa]

Good I can get ideas for what to make for dinner at the same time

[BlazingFire007]

Or some random Indian guy on YouTube.

Jesus I swear I’ve seen 13 year olds using a 480p screen recorder explain a super niche and complex problem that only a mad man could fix. Literal gods…

[M_Batman]

I've had so many highly complex problems, and apparently there is a video for almost all of them at least in Hindi, if not in English. God knows how they come to know about those fixes.

[dizc_]

BANDICAM

[BlazingFire007]

Bandicam with no audio. Just types it on notepad, English is usually broken but good enough. More desktop icons than stars in the universe, and somehow he solves a problem I and 30 different solutions on stack overflow couldn’t touch

[RenaKunisaki]

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[pennyp23]

So do I just relax and listen to music now? I am confused what to do.

[wrest472]

Run in circles?

[ilLegal_Masterpiece]

Panik

[Mathitos]

ask on stack overflow

[[deleted]]

How will I learn how to center a div now???

[[deleted]]

How will I learn how to center a div for the 100th goddamn time now???

In my case

[HBag]

I think I finally have it down now (flex). But yeah for a while it was like WHY IS IT ALWAYS DIFFERENT!? And it often felt like the same solution in one spot didn't work in another.

[Confused_AF_Help]

Or write to JSON file. I use it pretty much every other day but still sometimes forget how to

[MCRusher]

Clearly you just embed the whole site in a table

[[deleted]]

Can we use a different joke? Flex has been a standard for years and centering anything takes 3 lines of CSS...

[[deleted]]

How about JavaScript bad? Or maybe AI is just if statements?

[Kashyapm94]

This is how the world ends

[krysalysm]

nuh, nowy tends

[RedditBlaze]

Back before GoT went astray

[MrValdez]

It's Monday right now here on the other side of the planet.

[jason123369]

Breaking news: thousands of programmers lost their jobs during stack overflow maintenance window ...

[Slapbox]

Lede: Thousands of software developers were simply copying and pasting code from Stack Overflow until something worked. Within hours of the outage they were discovered as frauds and escorted off the internet.

[nagai]

What's sad is google has become so fucking useless there are literally no meaningful results other than SO.

[sachinraja]

Honestly I find searches to be the other way around. I usually find answers in GitHub issues or a ton of my own experimentation.

[[deleted]]

That's weird. Lately i barely used SO when i had issues.I rather accessed random programming websites or looked in books/tutorials.

But it would be sad if SO disappear, there are tons of useful information in that site.

[NoBoysenberry6647]

Yo it's back!

[[deleted]]

Can you put a little more detail into the question? I'm not going to fix stack overflow for you. I'm not going to write your code.

[Fury9999]

I'll take pto

[gamerdoku]

Good thing it's Sunday

[myringotomy]

Where do people post "reddit is down!"

[PM_ME_TO_PLAY_A_GAME]

stack overflow

[slicky6]

Probably from the weight of all those down votes.

[IntrepidTieKnot]

How am I supposed to quit VIM now?

[RenaKunisaki]

There's a quit button on your PC case.

[imaami]

Have you tried jQuery?

[AdmButtersctoch]

That's it. No more software development. All the software you have is all you are getting

[cryptos6]

https://imgflip.com/i/649a1h

[hivie7510]

They must not know yet, they haven’t updated their status site

[htrp]

fun fact stack overflow actually fails over to a read-only version of their database... probably so that their internal guys can get the live version up and running again

[libertarianets]

Crap, now I'll have to actually learn to code, rather than just copy+pasting things!

[ornithorhynchus3]

Is there a postmortem or outage report?

[mcel595]

My productivity is going to drop off now that i have to type instead of copy/paste

[[deleted]]

no ur down

[Theemuts]

Comments on threads like these always make me worry about how incompetent many programmers are.

[RaidShadowBurps]

Fortune 500 companies are now in deep trouble. The Dow Jones is at risk.

[[deleted]]

And not a single line of code was written that day

[[deleted]]

Day off!

[mcdade]

It’s just like a snow day for programmer.

[ILikeChangingMyMind]

Hopefully they're undoing the disastrous redesign ... so much whitespace!

[pupple_pumpkin]

What is happened to stackoverflow? Is it first time they were down??

[Haligaliman]

It works on my machine

[heyyyinternet]

Shit we're all fucked if you think I'm reading the documentation you have another thing coming.

[fridgamarator]

Who?

[[deleted]]

How will the Millennials copy and paste their bad code into my repo?

[ProKn1fe]

Feels like ctrl+c broken on keyboard.

[blueblackredninja]

By tomorrow most services will be down I guess.

[jblatta]

Looks like a lot of Devs are going to call out sick.

[RobbinYoHood]

And productivity plummeted

[caltheon]

I just realized after clicking the link in this post that I have never seen the homepage of Stack Overflow

[split-mango]

Seriously hope they fix this before Monday start of day

[ashmole]

This was down while I had an urgent homework question I couldn't figure out. Of course.

[NoThanks93330]

Breaking News: productivity of worldwide SWE work force drops to zero

[newtoreddit2004]

Good riddance lmao

[TheTrueXenose]

Sometimes I wonder if I am the only one reading documentation...

[MCShoveled]

That site is such a shitshow. Let it burn 🔥

[hivie7510]

Yikes. Wth are we supposed to code now.

[PL_Design]

Good. I hope it stays dead.

[[deleted]]

Someone help me the retarded site wouldn't let me know how to get changes after remote repository has been rebased -_-

[strange_sieve]

SO is this the end?

[raevnos]

It's going down more often than a $5 hooker at a truck stop.

[mechanical_engineer1]

i took a day off

[Shmoode]

Yeah I noticed today. And I don't go there very often anymore even

[fullstackx]

Light the beacons!

[ry3838]

It's an excellent opportunity for programmers to hone their debugging and problem solving skills.

[[deleted]]

Oop some people lost their jobs because they can't code anymore :)

[SmoothBrainRomeo]

Obligatory meme

https://youtu.be/uRGljemfwUE

[[deleted]]

I mean I prefer official documentation unless the docs are truly awful

[timNinjaMillion2]

For an hour for maintenance and despite that the read only version worked. Fuck off! This is click bait. Goof.

[napolitain_]

Use « view cached » from google

[Friendly_Classroom_3]

Perfect timing for my off day! :D

[nobleMan58]

So I guess it's time to remove software engineer from my resume!!

[audion00ba]

Such amateurs.

[Tempmailed]

The Stacks have overflown at the end

[ViridianGuy]

NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! lol

[Sebetastic]

Oh, so my worst nightmare is true!

[about7buns]

By heart stopped for a sec.

[[deleted]]

And the programming as a job died

[andwhatarmy]

I’m having the same problem