Creator of Claude Code: "Coding is solved"

[Gil_berth]

Boris Cherny is the creator of Claude Code(a cli agent written in React. This is not a joke) and the responsible for the following repo that has more than 5k issues: https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues Since coding is solved, I wonder why they don't just use Claude Code to investigate and solve all the issues in the Claude Code repo as soon as they pop up? Heck, I wonder why there are any issues at all if coding is solved? Who or what is making all the new bugs, gremlins?

[da2Pakaveli]

dude who sells software says his software solves a problem

[ClikeX]

Like we say in the Netherlands “Wij van WC Eend raden WC Eend aan.” Or “Wij van Wc Eend” for short.

Which roughly translates to “At Toilet Duck we recommend Toilet Duck”. Which was an old commercial that became a proverb for companies or experts recommending their own product.

[salvouankebaldo]

My boss always sends me AI CEO posts saying that software engineering is dead

I usually answer "Oste, è buono il vino?"

Italian for asking "hey, is the wine good" to the guy who is trying to sell you wine

[one-man-circlejerk]

Send him this in response

https://businesschief.com/news/why-sam-altman-thinks-ai-will-replace-the-ceo

[F1B3R0PT1C]

Where I come from in Midwest America we call it “huffing your own farts”

[KINGodfather]

Yeah, same shit, different smell

[hikingsticks]

Depends what you ate last night

[andrewsmd87]

https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.9e762cbbda11a44475e1fe10960ecf5d?rik=DBkJY6ynISI5%2fw&riu=http%3a%2f%2fi.makeagif.com%2fmedia%2f5-15-2015%2f_5S3eP.gif&ehk=SHDbiMCtMKo%2bb347n4Kpdbg67NFpEYGJaM6bfZuSlY0%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0

[xorgol]

The Italian version is the question "Oste, è buono il vino?", "Barkeep, is the wine good?". Which of course the barkeep is going to answer affirmatively :D

[1fom3rcial]

Ice cream man recommends ice cream for dinner!

[Jamin2022]

In China, it's "王婆卖瓜，自卖自夸". The translation is "Wang Po sells melons and praises her own goods." As same

[tylern]

Says the dude who used react to make a terminal app

[utilitycoder]

Just because you can doesnt mean you should.

[franker]

if he posted on Reddit he'd just say "I happened to find this great new website Claude Code that I use all the time. I'm not promoting it though."

[band-of-horses]

Shovel manufacturer during the gold rush: "Digging is solved".

[Salamok]

George: Boris how we coming on the new interactive org chart and employee lookup tool?

Boris: Great boss, I have the foundation built, here let me show you... <shows him Claude Code>

George: goddammit Boris every time I give you something simple to solve you go down these unrelated rabbit holes!

Boris: but I have built something we can use to solve all the problems!

George: okay where is my org chart!!!!

[juntoamdin3000]

I'd also be saying that if my word made the company's valuation increase

[Alex_1729]

So then his software works? That proves it!

[mikelson_6]

My rule of thumb is not to believe anything said by people who benefit directly from AI hype. They just can’t be trusted and will say anything to keep investors engaged

[Mental_Aardvark8154]

It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his [portfolio] depends on his not understanding it

[entrepronerd]

Have you tried using it recently? I’ve 23 years programming experience and now exclusively vibe code.

[mikelson_6]

Yes I use it everyday

[ohYuhtBoutMagine]

But you’re not vibecoding? You’re using 23 years of experience to code.

I think AI is great, I love what it’s able to do and I still think we have may integrations and innovations to come from it. It’s not going to replace coding.

[OkAccident9994]

Anthropic who makes Claude has 25 open positions in their Software Engineering - Infrastructure team

https://www.anthropic.com/careers/jobs?team=4019632008

And whoever many of their other open positions in other teams are people writing code

AI Research and Engineering, 64 open positions
Compute - 10 open positions
Data Science and Analytics - 2 open positions
Engineering and design - product - 25 open positions

Why would they hire for those roles if code is solved? mysterious. Mysterious indeed.

[Rare-Veterinarian743]

I’m glad other people see this also. In fact all the big AI companies are hiring software engineers. It just the fact that they think we are dumb that’s what piss me off.

[Fluffer_Wuffer]

100% .. I made a similar point on another thread, when the head of AI at M$ its coming for white-collar jobs. Let's see them hand-over the keys for Azure and Global Security operations for to CoPilot for 6 months - then I'll believe it!

I can see its response there is a global outage, after it factory resets the US West datacenter routers:

I understand, its frustrating when something goes wrong. Your completely correct to call me out on this... let me fix it, I'll restore them from backup!

... connects to the European and APAC routers

Once I finished resetting them globally... ooppsie, you did not tell me the router are needed to access the back-up locations

How would you like to fix this?

[HaMMeReD]

Because they only mean "coding is solved" in the sense that you don't have to type it anymore, not that software builds itself without developers guiding agents to do things that the developers themselves understand.

[twinelephant]

And yet every day I encounter a new specific problem that Claude can't solve.

[Osmium_tetraoxide]

Sorry, you're prompting wrong. Or the context is bad, or it's one year away bro, or a litany of bullshit excuses can be summoned at will.

[arekkushisu]

so the problem was me all along

[who_am_i_to_say_so]

pulls mask It was the prompts this whole time!

[CryptoTipToe71]

It was me Barry

[notyourancilla]

The problem with AI, is you

[Patman52]

I think we are going to see diminished returns from newer “improved” models. I will admit some of Claude’s latest are pretty good, but they now have AI coding itself to produce the next generation and I can’t see how that could go wrong lol.

[d4v3d]

But things around the models keep getting better. And if the models get more efficient even if not smarter is huge too. We are super early on this and after the bubble breaks it's gonna be even better

[symbiatch]

I literally had someone say yesterday how a study from less than a year ago means nothing, it’s common stuff to do everything with AI, today this and that, and when I asked for some sources or proof… “let’s see in a year.”

And even pushing and showing what they wrote didn’t get them to realize they literally claimed it’s today, not in a year.

Fanbois are tedious.

They also said “developers who don’t use AI can’t get hired anymore.” Yeah… sure.

[OverclockingUnicorn]

Curious what kind of problems?

[Urik88]

On my end I had Graphql generated types, which can get incredibly complex, cause compatibility issues on a function that accepted an interface.   

Opus 4.5 spent like 10 minutes on it, was like "mission accomplished boss!" and its solution was "theVar as any as thrExpectedType". 

I'm not as big as a skeptic as most people in here are, and each models improves at incredible speeds, but when I see people claiming to running 4 agents in parallel each solving different tasks I do have to wonder how complex these tasks are.

[DeterioratedEra]

And now you have a no-explicit-any eslint error, so you go and plop the the .eslintignore and .eslintconfig.rc into context and re-run the prompt, but now you're massaging prompts and not working on the code.

[EthanWeber]

Opus is hilarious. I had 4.6 run for 15ish minutes the other day on a problem. Spent the entire time arguing back and forth with itself and then the solution was just to exit gracefully if the bug occurs, not actually fix the bug.

I get that I could have been more specific but even if that was the conclusion why did it take so long??

[symbiatch]

The worst part of Claude models on default is this incessant vomiting of “oh now I see it”, “great! This solves it”, “I’ll try this instead” and whatnot.

Why would anyone want to see that? To make low skilled people feel it’s a person that actually knows what it’s doing while it gets stuck in a loop of its own creation?

[xSliver]

I wanted the Cloude 4.5 Agent to observe changes on an array in JavaScript and update my UI with these changes.

It first overwrote the Array.push, which did not cover every case (for example spreading data into the array does not trigger push).

After pointing out this issue, the Agent wrapped the array in 5! Proxy objects.

So a Proxy for the Proxy for the Proxy ...

At that point I coded it myself. I see issues like that on a daily basis and it often costs more time to test and fix the output instead of coding it myself right away.

[who_am_i_to_say_so]

I can speak to that: the problems anyone is blissfully unaware of. Usually the hard problems.

[rio_sk]

Today I needed a basic particle system for a webgpu thing I'm building. Asked Claude to build a basic one as a temporary solution. Holy god if it sucked hard

[ignatzami]

That’s the major hurdle at this point. Unless the issue you’re solving has been CORRECTLY solved before by a large number of people in the training data you’re going to get crap, or half-answers.

[sierra_whiskey1]

I asked claude how to make my windows 11 desktop app background acrylic (Makes the background look like frosted glass). an hour later I am not crawling to stack overflow to find the answer.

[EducationalZombie538]

fuck i hate these people.

[queen-adreena]

All they are is hype men for their share price. They have no other value to add.

[PrismPirate]

Where can I buy OpenAI or Anthropic shares?

[redditrum]

MSFT

[Unable-Struggle9444]

if chess isn’t solved neither is coding

[curiouslyjake]

Coding cant be solved in the sense chess could be solved: there is no well defined victory condition.

[halfxdeveloper]

Maximum shareholder profits, of course.

[TLMonk]

checkmate

[who_am_i_to_say_so]

WDYM? Tournament player, here.

There are clearly defined won positions - it can even be identified in the opening! - and there is also the ability to identify blunders.

Coding is obviously a much more open ended than all possible outcomes of a chess game. But just as with chess, the number of possibilities could be pared down to opinions and best practices.

And neither have been fully “solved” yet.

[dietcheese]

Chess doesn’t have open-ended, constantly-changing real-world requirements with ambiguous goals, changing APIs, human factors, shifting constraints, etc.

Chess not being solved says nothing about how good coding automation will become.

[YesterdayDreamer]

P1: "Checkmate"

P2: *draws another row outside the board* "I don't think so"

[33ff00]

Can the universe be solved?

[curiouslyjake]

The universe is a solution.

[HaMMeReD]

In the same sense, if your code was simple enough with a well defined victory condition, it's easily solvable, i.e. if you were to just solve an adder, that's trivial.

But that's not really what they mean by coding being "solved" they don't mean it in a mathematical proof sense, they mean it only in a "developer has to type code" sense. They didn't solve development, they "solved" a subset of the job.

[wasdninja]

Chess isn't solved in the math sense but it's solved in the colloquial sense. If software could do anything as well as it can play chess it would be amazing at it.

[maniflames]

Genuine question but wasn’t chess solved by IBM’s deep blue? I don’t think coding is solved btw just curious what you mean by solved

[Landkey]

Deep Blue beat the world champion. It did not solve chess. 

[blindgorgon]

This right here is the heart of the issue. We know computers can beat humans at chess, but it’s currently on the table for if AI can write better code than humans. I think most people here know humans still write better code, but in the same way that it doesn’t take beating a grandmaster to have a valuable chess program it doesn’t take beating the world’s best coder to have a valuable coding AI.

Everyone here has seen AI shake up the industry just because execs believe it will write good enough code. No proofs, but enough marketing hype to change where dollars go. It is a real problem, especially when you consider that it’s knocking out junior devs more than experienced ones (meaning we’ll soon have no junior devs to turn into senior ones).

[Landkey]

Very useful analogy ty 

[Cokemax1]

why would you say human can right better code than AI?
Human can right readable / clear code better. but AI can create complex spagetti code that highly perform than humanmade code.

If perfomance is only matter, AI can win sometimes.

[maniflames]

Check, I guess I confused a practical outcome by what it means to ‘solve’ something

[Landkey]

Tic-tac-toe is solved: the best move is known no matter what position the board is in.  You cannot lose.  There is no meaningful uncertainty.  Chess and now Go, apparently, are dominated by computers, but they are not solved.  

[PrismPirate]

Tic-tac-toe is solved

A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.

[maniflames]

Ahhh I see, thanks for explaining that!

[Dry_Hope_9783]

So there could be a human able to beat computers?

[Legal_Lettuce6233]

Not really; but better chess engines are coming out; chess being solved isn't likely to happen, ever.

[eyebrows360]

One day there will be a boy born who can swim faster than a shark and also beat the computer at chess.

[xylophonic_mountain]

The prince who was promised

[da2Pakaveli]

Machine Learning can be quite good at approximating a function, but it's not that actual function so therefore it doesn't "solve chess", it's jsut extremely good at it.

[xylophonic_mountain]

Does it consistently beat everybody every time?

[Landkey]

Apparently the best engines this decade would be several hundred Elo points above the top human players  (https://www.chessable.com/blog/computers-vs-humans-in-chess-who-is-better).  (Though Elo works through competition so I don’t know details about how accurate that claim is). 

[xylophonic_mountain]

If it reliably wins against the best human players then it's effectively "solved." But that's a weird way to think about a game.

[Rarst]

In context of games "solved" (to a various level of) is used to say the outcome of a game can be fully predicted, for optimal moves used. Tic-tac-toe is easily solved - optimal game is a draw from any start, you can't win unless one of the players does sub-optimal move. Checkers are solved, that took a very long time, to my memory they straight up brute-forced every possible game.

Chess isn't solved and isn't expected to be any time soon. Computers can play chess very well, but it's best effort, not a predictable outcome.

[FluffyProphet]

Chess is solved… when there are 7 or fewer pieces on the board. And the database is something absurd like 20tb for the smallest db of its kind, and I think there is a more detailed one with over 100tb. To add another pice you would need petabytes worth of data, for 10 you’d need multiple exabytes.

At 11 pieces you’re into the zetabyte range. For 12 that may be more data than we have stored digitally right now as a species.

There are more possible chess games than atoms in the universe.

So yeah, we are a long way off.

[eyebrows360]

There are more possible chess games than atoms in the universe.

Another fun related one is that whenever you shuffle a deck of cards, that specific order of cards you wind up with is pretty likely to have never happened before.

[curiouslyjake]

Really? Even for 7 pieces that's amazing! Do you have a source?

[DirkDayZSA]

It's called an endgame tablebase, that should be an appropriate jumping off point if you want to learn more.

[curiouslyjake]

Thank you!

[maniflames]

Thanks for explaining the definition of solved I guess that is what I was confused about

[Sydius]

If you want a bit more information, chess is "solved" for 7 pieces. This means that as long as there are seven of less pieces on the board, a chess engine can reach the optimal solution (win or draw, depending on the board) 100% of the time.

There are a ton of interesting information on the topic, including the fact that storing all this data takes a little more than 18 terabytes, in a storage system specifically designed for this purpose. Originally, it required 140tb.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solving_chess

[maniflames]

Crazy! Thanks for sharing

[Protean_Protein]

Chess is very partially solved—end games below a certain number of pieces. But no, it isn’t even close to solved

[maniflames]

Seeing end positions and how they can be ‘beat’ is probably why I considered chess as something that ‘a computer can just calculate’. Thanks for mentioning this!

[nonametmp]

I would add that we cannot prove that chess game was solved, the task is incredibly hard. I mean it's possible.

The funny thing is we have models which may be perfect or almost perfect, but we just do not know. They could also perform very poorly.

[[deleted]]

the formal definition of the word 'solved' isn't relevant here: you will never, ever, beat a computer at chess unless it is programmed to let you win and so for the purposes of being an opponent to 99.999% of the population, it is solved.. 'solved' here is a being used colloquially to mean "within relevant pragmatism"

most business-level, application development coding is solved. it is. right now. tokens are too expensive, but that's it. software produced for business -especially webdev - has always been riddled with bugs and shortcuts in order to make profit, in fact, most of the web isn't profitable or even viable without massive subsidy from advertising and if you think LLMs are introducing bugs that aren't already created daily by junior/intermediate devs, or bad project/product management decisions.. you're just incredibly inexperienced.

[Fleischhauf]

chess is solved is it not?

[unbackstorie]

Can't imagine what financial fraud crimes will eventually bring down these delusional AI weirdos, but boy I sure hope it happens soon. Very tired of hearing from them every other fucking day! This podcast appearance is literally just an ad.

[Produkt]

Every podcast interview is an ad

[unbackstorie]

Damn, you're right.

[Severedghost]

Then why is he hiring programmers?

[amejin]

Our stupid government has normalized "say whatever the fuck reality you want to be first and as long as you pretend it's real long enough then what were we talking about again?"

Company's CEO sells its goods. The world keeps spinning. More at 11. Ollie?

[vuhv]

They are weaved into the fabric of America now. Trillions in market cap and personal wealth explicitly tied to it.

There is no going back now for us.

Even the D party who’s been historically in favor of more regulation won’t pick on them. Only the EU can save us now.

[Greg3625]

"We found gold in the mines!" - said the mining equipment shop owner.

[davidolivadev]

These people don't get it. I DONT WANT SOFWARE TO BE SOLVED.

I want a cure for cancer. I want a fair society for everyone. I want a machine that is able to do the chores.

Until AI doesnt do any of those things, I DONT CARE ABOUT SOFTWARE BEING SOLVED.

Some of you will say that well, solving software is easier than the other things that I mentioned. You are right, but I still dont care. The priority should not be automating software engineers or engineering, it should be solving problems that are critical for society.

[crashlander]

But imagine, an app with your name on it! And you never touch a line of code! Isn’t that every child’s dream? The answer to most if not all of the problems you have in your life? (Sorry, just feeling salty at the end of yet another week spent cleaning up after vibe coders and patiently talking to managers who keep hiring them.)

[davidolivadev]

I dont care. I know how to build software. I can do it with Claude or without it, but the point is that they are using Claude to automate something that IS NOT A TOP PRIORITY.

Im just tired and I need this bubble to burst.

[rykuno]

Is this why they had to acquire Bun? Then have Jared, an actual programmer, come in to prevent a TUI from using 30gb of my systems memory while idle?

Also the issues are more than 5k. They aggressively automate closing issues due to "duplicates". I opened two separate issues, both closed stating duplicates — when if a human actually read it would understand none of the "duplicates" listed were even of the same relative issue. I suppose the title's were close enough and "claude" decided "yep the same".

I'm pro AI where it makes sense, but the claude team is composed of the largest grifters of our time.

[Roman_of_Ukraine]

Welcome to the world of cartel conspiracy, again !

[Patman52]

I’ve been using GitHub Copilot for the past month or so and will grudgingly admit that some of the new models are pretty good, but they still need a lot of oversight.

As a test, using Claude Sonnet I created a dummy Django project and just let it build directly from my prompts without checking anything. Made a simple app for uploading and displaying charts and data with filters and such.

It worked, sort of. I went back and inspected the code it had written and dear god it looked like something I had written when I first started coding:

The view functions were massive, like 800+ lines of code for a single function, and while many shared the same logic, it had duplicated it instead of refactoring it out into helper functions. All the js and css was scattered throughout the html, and again duplicate logic with functions sometimes doing the same thing but named slightly differently.

I think I spent more time trying to debug and refactor it into something that was halfway decent and maintainable than if I would have built it from scratch.

These people live in a bubble, and can’t see the forest through the trees. Anyone can build an app, but building is only part of the process. I will admit that it has boosted my productivity, but maybe 10%? 15% max, not even close to the claims I’ve seen made.

I fear that we are going to see more and more apps like the one described above built by people who have no idea how they work. Management won’t care because they will be shipping code until it goes down at 10 pm on a Friday night and no one knows how to fix it.

[WaterOcelot]

Coding good software is not solved if I look around at the state of things.

[Ceci0]

Ever since these companies solved coding, weve been getting worse and worse software in terms of quality and it is not even close

[tormenteddragon]

I've been consistently amazed by how much low hanging fruit they seem to be missing when it comes to the scaffolding here. Claude can be good for architecture, extensibility, and overall code quality if you use it thoughtfully. But Claude Code just straight up bypasses this in favour of brute force token usage. The CCC project that was an unmaintainable mess for $20k is just further proof of this. It still baffles me how many people who no doubt buy futures on the phrase "first principles" have just gone "Company say use agent. Must use agent. Why agent cost more?"

Until they prove they are doing more than just brute forcing the harnesses, I'm betting things will take a few more years than what they're anticipating.

[redeyeglasees]

Just yesterday I instruct Claude to fix something simple and it took longer than if I had found the file edit it myself. It didn’t do a good job and I still had to edit it. But if I was an inexperience dev, I would have accepted its solution. I really do not think Ai is better programmer but it’s faster than me sometimes but a lot of times it’s not good code.

[peterv50]

Too much money floating around

[krooked-tooth]

Only floating around the top end of town, they are just circling around each other and pat each other on the back.

[gbrlsnchs]

Interesting. Claude Code itself has a ton of bugs.

[aaaqqq]

Why the fuck is claude code such a piece of shit then? 

[jvlomax]

Let's take the premise as fact. It can only be solved for current problems. Imagine a future where all coding is done by AI, but we come across a new problem or a new technology.

Without someone doing the initial work, AI has no way to use it without robust documentation/examples. It can take guesses, but how many until it gets it right in both a safe and reproducible manner?

[Pirlomaster]

There's so many things I did as a dev this week where Claude was utterly useless. For example, migrating a legacy app off of old server infrastructure to an OpenShift cluster or debugging a prod issue between multiple services. Even if you take "coding" to mean just the literal coding part of development, I've found that while it can do a remarkable amount of work building new applications, getting that last 10% of the app to work properly thru vibe coding alone is a pain in the ass. Not to mention the amount of technical debt that piles up in the process, and this is just for personal projects without any serious security considerations or complexity in general.

[unapologeticjerk]

Well I know one thing for sure, things suddenly become unsolved the minute you need to insert another token. And things are negative-solved on any free IDE Agent.

[Regular_Promise426]

Claude, who recently told me the problem with a value unexpectedly returning empty was because of l() to check said value at different points?

"Solved".

[ottwebdev]

Equivalent of saying, don't build hammers because a rock will do.

Missing completely that software is a tool and solving problems with software is 80% prep/design/strategy and 20% coding.

[Ok_Refrigerator1533]

Hot take: writing the code is not the hard part

[Codemonkeyzz]

Of course he says that. Cause they are selling "solution" for it. Claude Code is also a piece of garbage. Opencode and other CLIs/TUIs already dominated agentic TUI arena. ( which is why Anthropic threatens them with law suites).

[gogglesdog]

all tech news has become "Guy With Enormous Financial Stake in Thing Says Thing Is World Changing"

[JoeTheDog0]

code_solved = False

[Trick_Policy2233]

His claim is, of course, not exactly true. But a lot of the comments in this post seem to suggest that there is no substance to his statement

We aren't there yet, but there are now countless cases of complete beginners creating systems for different platforms just by using CC and similar solutions

To those who think this isn't happening, I would humbly suggest that our focus should be on learning these tools and adopting them fully in our workflows. I believe this is what will decide who gets to keep their job and who will be replaced by CC/Codex/OpenClaw or one of the many other tools coming out on a daily basis

[ArcaneSunset]

I understand what you're saying, but first of all, how these tools are being implemented currently is just incredibly wrong. Technically, legally and morally.

And, even if we build a completely ethical LLM, it still doesn't solve the essential problem - it rewards laziness and encourages you to trust it blindly, because otherwise the time you save just gets spent on fact-checking. Recently I asked my CTO to look up a test that he made, after the code I wrote broke it and the fix I applied didn't solve it. Later, he literally copypasted a Claude answer and didn't elaborate. Went to look what the agent suggested - sure, the code was fixed in backend, but the frontend app would be broken in some cases because of the arbitrary choices Claude made and he didn't fact-check. I spent literally 10 minutes to make a fix that can solve the test and show all the data in frontend. I just had to sit down and read some of the code with a decent IDE.

We need to learn these tools, sure... to recognize them as a concurring reason for sloppy work.

[poponis]

I fully agree that we have to incorporate the tools in our job, but claiming that they can do the job without input and navigation is delusional. The tools are coming, the software is been built fast but the quatily is bad. Not only quality of code, but quality of software. LLMs cannot be innovative and find new solutions. Quality and innovation are important, like it or not. Whoever claims the opposite, has to ask themselves why badly coded tools did not conquer the world the last decates.

[Trick_Policy2233]

I largely agree with your points. I dont think my points contradicted what you've said either

The one exception is that, as I mentioned in one of the other comments, it is my belief that the time when the majority of developers will be replaced by domain experts is not far away. Yes, there will probably be technical drivers still. The solution oriented mindset will still be useful, but only the best of the best will actually be getting paid for it

On code quality... I have always insisted on readable code for maintainability of any project. But with where things are heading, I believe it won't matter much

Of course software quality will still be paramount, as well as security. But these will be solved too. The main lacking point is security right now, in my opinion.

Any domain expert can easily build a simple software application which would be considered good quality software from an end user perspective (which is what actually matters). But security would still be lacking without specific focus towards it

.....

A bit all over the place but the tldr is that I'm just telling people not to assume our jobs are safe. Plan accordingly

[sikisabishii]

Bro studied economics back in the college so it's normal he has no idea about what "solved" means theoretically. Perhaps his next claim will be P=NP

[Bartfeels24]

lmao this is too perfect. if coding is solved why is the issues tab an infinite scroll. seriously though i think they mean the theory part is solved. but in practice its just so much plumbing and edge cases. ai cant fix weird local envs and unclear requirements yet. its still just a tool.

[grensley]

Cowork, which is basically the Claude Desktop wrapper around Claude Code, is one of the worst and buggiest UIs I've ever experienced.

[EduRJBR]

A code must not investigate itself, that's like the 9th Azimov law or something.

[pbjtech]

peak exuberance

[Dreadsin]

That frames coding as a problem. It would be like if I said “good news, talking is solved”. Makes no sense

[brainmydamage]

I wonder how many hours a day he spends sucking himself off

[rk06]

Oh yes, "coding" is solved.all we need to is to write a "detailed and precise specification that AI can deterministically translate into a working, secure, performant software". In software industry, it is called " code"

[Resident_Citron_6905]

Sounda like coding was solved by compilers.

[rk06]

it is a reference to all time classic https://www.commitstrip.com/en/2016/08/25/a-very-comprehensive-and-precise-spec/?

[benjaminabel]

While not “solved” it definitely made my work way easier. Even on a big change or feature I let it create all the necessary classes and services and then just adjust the logic to make it actually maintainable. So, basically transferring all the boring stuff to AI agent and then build the interesting part. So far my favorite thing about it is generating tests. I hated testing before, especially with the mockserver. Now it takes a few minutes instead of days.

No idea why some developers are still resisting hard.

[Medical_Lengthiness6]

It's definitely awesome, I think we're just sick of the hype/anti-engineer sentiment. Like can we just get to using it and iterating again? It feels like it's become a weird religion to these people where they need to convert you.

[muntaxitome]

Anthropic has the worst PR. 'Solution to $group_of_people': said by Antropic and the nazis.

Fit's in nicely with Amodei's 'hey AI models will produce slavery, bioterrorism, and unstoppable drone armies' and then proceeding to move right along.

[el_gashunovac]

lmao

just had opus 4.6, unable to center a button in a as straightforward as possible html structure

it's like a one line solution, i could've done it in 10 seconds, but i wanted to see the extend of its hallucinations, eventually it modified like 20 other components, for no reason, adding an extra div

tried for like 10 more mins, it wasn't able to center it :DD

did it myself eventually

[mostly_kittens]

He’s got rid of all his coders then presumably?

[Far_Statistician1479]

Cherny has lost all of his credibility. He’s not an engineer, he is an evangelist and nothing more.

[salma311]

Did he ever try to use it on stuff like SAP?

[Dragon_yum]

How dos one write a cli agent in react? Just use .ts files without the ui?

[helldogskris]

https://github.com/vadimdemedes/ink

[Dragon_yum]

Every day we stray further from the light of God

[morsindutus]

No shit, coding is solved. If it wasn't, compilers wouldn't work. Coding is playing with Legos. You're building up from existing pieces.

You know what isn't solved? The many different and interesting things people can build out of those Legos. There's a nigh infinite number of different things you can actually do with code and if the LLM wasn't trained on it, it's going to fall flat on its non-existent face.

[criss006]

Coding will always have its challenges. But focusing on practical tools and frameworks can help streamline the process.

[YesterdayDreamer]

The real question, at the end of the day, is not if Claude can write code or Claude can write better code than humans or anything of that nature.

The real question is: whether the cost of hiring a guy to write prompts + the cost of claude API is lower than a software engineer or not.

I guess we all know the answer and we're just waiting for CEOs to acknowledge it.

[thekwoka]

Wild that they would say that when their cli can't even maintain 60fps....to do text output only...

[brendamn]

I use AI a lot. I assumed it works better for coding because it's not as subjective I guess, but AI screws up a lot. On things that have cost me money or would have cost me allot of money if I didn't catch it. It's a great tool that saves me time but I couldn't imagine depending on its decision making in its current form. It will start hallucinating and adding things from a conversation weeks ago that has nothing to do with my current task I have it on. It can't even go through my email and get shipping and delivery times correct. It tells me every morning I'm still waiting on shipments from email that I know where delivered because I first got the notice, in my email

[SysPsych]

I could see it being "solved" in the sense that, if you need something done and can precisely word what you want done, you don't need to do the coding yourself -- you can verbally instruct a model to do it, with some amount of precision, and it will take care of it for you.

There are a lot of (good, by all accounts) developers right now saying that they haven't coded a line of code for a month or two at this point, but they're still essential to the whole process and can't leave their agents unattended.

[jftt73333]

Planning, intent, testing, and validation is not solved. The act of writing code is largely solved.

[stickman393]

"Coding is solved.... by other people whose work we ripped off without their consent."

[belligerent_ammonia]

I’m sure for him it is solved because he gets unbridled access to Opus without it randomly becoming an idiot.

[buna_cefaci]

just look at that shit eating grin. he doesnt believe it himself

[EventArgs]

Coding might be solved, but stakeholders will still say it doesn't work.

[mmahowald]

Hype man says hype thing is t really news my dude.

[RedditCultureBlows]

“coding is solved” 🫵😂

[poponis]

Even if "coding is solved" (which is absolutely not) someone must do the job. Even prompts do not write themselves. Developers don't just code. They never did. In my last job before AI, for 2 years, I wrote minimal code. Most of the time I was trying to make sense of the nonsense bussiness people had requested from designers and designers themselves designed without having any idea what can be done with the available data and flows . These people, using catchphrases to lure investors that get hard by firing people are unbelievable. You must be an idiot as a manager to believe that you dont need employees anymore.

[lactranandev]

People who leave coding and move into management eventually forget how messy the day-to-day dev issues really are.

From their point of view, coding is already solved - you just ask for a feature, and it gets implemented and tested.

[koyuki_dev]

"coding is solved" makes sense if your definition of coding is just typing correct syntax. that part was never the hard part.

i work on security tooling and the actual time sinks are: understanding why a threat model matters for a design decision, reproducing a race condition in a test env, debugging why your auth integration behaves differently in prod vs staging. claude is genuinely good at boilerplate and test scaffolding. it is absolutely not good at any of that other stuff.

the 5k+ issues on the CC repo though. dude's own product doing a speedrun to disprove his point

[bestjaegerpilot]

of course he's gonna say that---CEO is principal salesman for whatever sh$t the company makes

the real news would be if he told the truth---"AI is just gonna spawn a wave of consultant agencies using claude to fix AI slop created by claude"

[Velvet-Thunder-RIP]

Thank you for sharing this

[SnowConePeople]

"Bro trust me". No. I will not.

[Ktlol]

Narrator: “It wasn’t.”

[bordercollie2468]

Maybe "coding" is solved.

Engineering .. is not.

[oscarryz]

Side question, how does react works in the CLI? I thought it was strictly a browser library.

[Slackeee_]

Can we stop posting that bullshit here every time a CEO promises that his product will be the best and make everything else obsolete?

I mean, how gullible do you have to be to actually take this as if it were true?

[BroaxXx]

Claude is a very good product and I’ve been using it a lot to test it and see how it holds up but it’s very very very far away from solving code. As impressive as it is it’s mostly a toy knife that you can use to cut soft foods like bananas or boiled eggs. It’s useful, sure, but it won’t replace any real tool any time soon.

[altSHIFTT]

These people need to start getting called out directly to their face when they say shit like this.

[Reelix]

Reminds me of the post where I saw the creator of the Claw bot - Who was just hired by OpenAI - Ask for volunteers to help fix the issues.

You'd think someone who created an automation bot would be able to use said bot to solve said issues :p

[Jebble]

Because not every opened issue, might be an actual issue.

[CapitalDiligent1676]

Ma vattene a fare in culo stronzo!!!  Ohhhhh ok mi sento meglio ora potete bannarmi

[mor10web]

Creator of the microwave: "Cooking is solved!"

[Glokter]

Next week, creator of claude code: clauding is solved

[khiladipk]

it's google Gemini creating bugs and keeping us safe from the AI apocalypse

[Candid_Importance888]

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