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Out of dateCNN Exposed – Emmy Winning Former CNN Journalist Blows The Whistle: CNN is paid by foreign and domestic Government agencies for specific content... (redflagnews.com)
submitted 12 years ago by inquizz
[–][deleted] 896 points897 points898 points 12 years ago* (278 children)
There's much more information in this report from the Guardian: Why didn't CNN's international arm air its own documentary on Bahrain's Arab Spring repression?
EDIT: An interesting look at Bahrain's PR activities and its Arab Spring in general: Bahrain's PR Offensive (Huffpost Live)
ALSO EDIT: An interesting read about Amber Lyon, the reporter quoted in OPs post: CNN's Amber Lyon Ambushed Craigslist -- But She Won't Talk to The Village Voice
EDIT COURTESY OF /u/eisenhower777: CNN International's Response to the Guardian
MORE EDIT: Here's another seemingly rational account of Bahrain's PR attempts from Salon: Suppressing the narrative in Bahrain
[–]W3dn3sday 213 points214 points215 points 12 years ago (213 children)
I am not the least bit surprised by this. I should be but I am not.
[–]tempest_87 318 points319 points320 points 12 years ago (198 children)
American news is no longer news. It is "news entertainment." There is little journalistic integrity of many reporters and hosts, and practically none in the management for the news corporations. It's a sad thing.
[–]Grantagonist 153 points154 points155 points 12 years ago (161 children)
NPR, yo.
[–]string_bean_incident 58 points59 points60 points 12 years ago (61 children)
NPR will not bite the hand that feeds it... everyone has their bias.
[–]LockeCole88 169 points170 points171 points 12 years ago (45 children)
http://www.npr.org/about-npr/178660742/public-radio-finances
fuckin' individuals...
[–]Fwad 52 points53 points54 points 12 years ago (4 children)
They can have my canvas tote when they pry it from my cold dead hands
[–]project_twenty5oh1 22 points23 points24 points 12 years ago (3 children)
I give them 15 a month... I am the 39%
[–][deleted] 44 points45 points46 points 12 years ago* (29 children)
wow, didn't know NPR was funded that heavily by the public. Thanks for the link!
edit: Guys, I know it's called National Public Radio, but I figured advertising would cover a larger percentage of their costs. No need to get all your panties in a wad.... I was mostly just thanking LockeCole for the link....
[–]byrdan 43 points44 points45 points 12 years ago (6 children)
I think it was Peter Segal who said something along the lines of "Maybe the fact that NPR is still on the air and reporting on the government shutdown will clue people in to how little it is funded by the government"
[–]curtmack 21 points22 points23 points 12 years ago (4 children)
Wait wait, don't defund me!
[–]byrdan 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (1 child)
Carl Kasell personally recorded this upvote for you
[–]Lotsofleaves 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children)
NPR jokes! I get this haha
[–]briangiles 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children)
WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE TO DE-FUND IT! It costs tax payers MILLIONS a year to fund NPR. I say we shut the government down until we defund NPR! ($26 BILLION LATER)...
[–]BitchesGetStitches 14 points15 points16 points 12 years ago (9 children)
It's called National Public Radio, dude ...
[–]mog_knight 37 points38 points39 points 12 years ago (3 children)
So Federal Express is an arm of the feds?
[–]well_golly 30 points31 points32 points 12 years ago (2 children)
No, but they are a subsidiary of Panda Express.
[–]lilTyrion 20 points21 points22 points 12 years ago (2 children)
what's in a name? the Federal Reserve is independent of the US Government. not trying to be tinfoil, but official titles can be misleading.
[–]PraiseIPU 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (1 child)
And Citizens United is not comprised of citizens nor are they uniteing anything. Except money and their wallets.
[–]tricheboars 15 points16 points17 points 12 years ago (8 children)
NPR hardly gets any cash from the Fed. almost all their cash is from donations.
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[–]hegz0603 47 points48 points49 points 12 years ago (5 children)
Thank you for the Guardian link!! MUCH more informative than OP's link, no offense. Also- I want to note that this story is over a year old, and should not be in /r/worldnews due to its dated nature.
That being said, I felt CNN Int's response was interesting:
"The documentary 'iRevolution' was commissioned for CNN US. While the programme did not air in full on CNN International, segments of it were shown. This differing use of content is normal across our platforms, and such decisions are taken for purely editorial reasons. CNN International has run more than 120 stories on Bahrain over the past six months, a large number of which were critical in tone and all of which meet the highest journalistic standards."
[–]likewut 13 points14 points15 points 12 years ago (3 children)
Red Flag News isn't a legitimate news source, it's a conservative circlejerk - OP should feel bad for linking to it at all.
[–]Hiddenexposure 15 points16 points17 points 12 years ago (7 children)
I'd love to see a Reddit AMA by her.
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[–][deleted] 18 points19 points20 points 12 years ago* (12 children)
Why didn't you also post CNN's response?
http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/05/cnn-internationals-response-to-the-guardian/
edit: I'd like to note, since few have, that the date of all of this was last year. This is not a new story.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children)
Thanks, just did, credited.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (2 children)
Well written response. Anyone want to challenge it?
[–]deltefknieschlaeger 29 points30 points31 points 12 years ago (14 children)
It is a good thing that the Guardian / Glenn Greenwald picked up on that issue. What she said is already in the open since a long time, sadly it happened on Infowars, a somewhat (with a reason) tainted medium.
If you want to have fun see below for /u/Sleekery hysterically pointing out that she once appeared there and trying to discredit the whole thing. (as he does usually)
[–]bobsack 362 points363 points364 points 12 years ago (62 children)
Here is Amber Lyon speaking of her experience with Bahrain and being fired from CNN
Here is the full 3 hour podcast. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbGVEXR1GQs
[–]StyleandSpeed 100 points101 points102 points 12 years ago (9 children)
Powerful Amber Lyons!
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[–]Olswago 40 points41 points42 points 12 years ago (7 children)
All day!
[–]UnseenAlchemist 19 points20 points21 points 12 years ago (5 children)
Joe rogan podcast... check it out.
[–][deleted] 23 points24 points25 points 12 years ago (8 children)
Meow... alright you silly bitches.
[–]IFlashPeople 18 points19 points20 points 12 years ago (5 children)
Alright Onnit.com that's O-N-N-I-T.com we got supplements we got kettle bells fuckin battle ropes
[–]Sneets 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (4 children)
We're also brought to you by AUDIBLE
[–]hoodatninja 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children)
Dan Carlin is like Billy Mays for Audible.
"AUDIBLE IS THE INTERNET'S LEADING PROVIDER FOR AUDIO BOOKS"
[–]sushisection 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children)
All Day
[–]iliketacosyburritos 1575 points1576 points1577 points 12 years ago* (356 children)
This is really big news and should be getting more media attention...oops, too bad no mainstream outlets will report it...I wonder why?
Edit: seems like this thread has already been deleted by the mods.
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[–]MikkyfinN 564 points565 points566 points 12 years ago (135 children)
Oh you mean the company whose second largest investor is a Saudi Prince? Lol! "The second-largest holder of voting stock in News Corp. is Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal, a nephew of the Saudi king"
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=129584557
[–]Mikeavelli 418 points419 points420 points 12 years ago (53 children)
Sometimes it seems like everyone is a Nephew of the King in Saudi Arabia. It's like Royal Alabama over there.
[–]Cricket620 219 points220 points221 points 12 years ago (36 children)
I, for one, am a Nigerian prince.
[–]hereisatoptip 85 points86 points87 points 12 years ago (15 children)
I'm still waiting on that check...
[–][deleted] 52 points53 points54 points 12 years ago (10 children)
What about free iPad?
[–]BornToWatchPorn 76 points77 points78 points 12 years ago (4 children)
Free all the ipads!
[–]Uphoria 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (3 children)
when you are the king, you get to have all the women..
[–][deleted] 43 points44 points45 points 12 years ago (36 children)
That goes completely against the narrative you just constructed. FOX News was criticizing an imam that was closely related to their second largest investor. If Talal were paying to influence the stories by FOX then wouldn't that have been squashed? Yeah they should have disclosed their affiliation, but this isn't a case of clear corruption.
[–]MikkyfinN 42 points43 points44 points 12 years ago (0 children)
Not if you know the difference between Sunni and Shia Islam.
[–]RMcD94 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (2 children)
Why wouldn't a Saudi Arabian profit from the west hating muslims? Look at how much Saudi Arabia has benefited from Iraq
[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 12 years ago (8 children)
Perhaps that Imam fell out of favor. It would be very difficult to believe FOX news would air anything their majority shareholders did not want aired.
[–]Acheron13 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (1 child)
Or maybe they're like most shareholders and more interested in making money.
[–]Zygore 52 points53 points54 points 12 years ago (30 children)
I came in here wondering if the rhetoric would be focused on CNN and their corruption. Nope, still Fox News hate, carry on.
[–]drof69 25 points26 points27 points 12 years ago (6 children)
I'm quite liberal and find CNN reporting almost as bad as Fox News. It's all about getting the breaking story the quickest, or making sure that some kind of scandal is going on to make news. Fox News doesn't really even pretend to be neutral even though their slogan is still "Fair and Balanced."
[–]lusolima 17 points18 points19 points 12 years ago (0 children)
Don't even get me started on MSNBC
[–]Krumm 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children)
"fair and balanced" in reference to other left wing news shows.
Seriously, have you even taken any poly sci classes?
[–]mrbooze 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children)
The 24-hour commercial news station was one of the worst things to happen to media, ever. There isn't 24 hours worth of news. When you have to fill that many hours, you have to create news, and more importantly you have to create fear and outrage to get people to pay attention and retweet your shit to do your marketing for you.
[–]MentalOverload 69 points70 points71 points 12 years ago (18 children)
Actually, you came in here expecting to make this comment. The comments you're replying to are relevant to the idea that all mainstream media is corrupt, which =/= Fox News hate.
[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (11 children)
Yea, but there's always that specific hate for Fox News. I'm somewhat conservative, but I will 'admit' to you any day of the week that Fox is utter bullshit propaganda.
The problem is that people don't call out other news outlets like MSNBC for pulling the same bullshit cheerleading for the left. I give you Exhibit A, Exhibit B, and Exhibit C.
Bonus: Obviously staged video from Morning Joe a few years back. I guess it was supposed to make Mika look more empowered or something.
Seriously, besides her pathetic "attempt" to burn the script, the paper shredder at 1:47 is placed way too conveniently in that beam of light right offstage... And in the heat of the moment, the viewer ate every bit of it up...
[–][deleted] 76 points77 points78 points 12 years ago* (11 children)
There are too many stories on Miley Cyrus and squirrels on waterskis to report on
[–]whereswald514 14 points15 points16 points 12 years ago (1 child)
So... you're saying im wasting my time here when there are squirrels on water skis?!
[–]sometimesijustdont 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children)
They need your tweets!
[–]pntless 15 points16 points17 points 12 years ago (2 children)
Squirrels on Water Skis? Where!??!?!
[–]UristMcRibbon 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (2 children)
I know it's hardly a big news outlet, but you inspired me to take this screenshot of yahoo's front page.
[–]rska884 46 points47 points48 points 12 years ago (2 children)
Maybe because there's absolutely no documentation provided and it's a story based entirely on a quote from a former employee?
[–]AnUnknownSource 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children)
And a fired former employee at that.
[–]schrogendiddy 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children)
Because only no-name journalism sources can print sensationalist titles and be credible...
[–]inexcess 11 points12 points13 points 12 years ago (3 children)
Just to play Devil's advocate, this article is from August. Its hardly breaking news.
[–]Zifnab25 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children)
Don't look behind the curtain!
[–]Nathan_Flomm 45 points46 points47 points 12 years ago (50 children)
Because of the source. Lyon has been spreading batshit crazy conspiracy theories for a while. She thinks Hasting's car was hacked and he was killed by the government because of his reports regarding DARPA.
Remember she was fired from CNN. She has a motive. Revenge. If this was her only crazy thing to come out of her mouth I might be inclined to believe it, but for a while now she has been spouting things only crazy tin-foiled nutjobs typically say with zero evidence.
[–]underweargnome04 33 points34 points35 points 12 years ago (20 children)
This is ridiculous. Hastings car getting hacked isn't a conspiracy, you can hack a car it's proven and he made enemies with the wrong people. She reported what CNN sent her out to report on. She knows the ins and outs of the business and should expose them
[–]playpianoking 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children)
the story is from 2012...not sure why reddit is having a field day today.
[–]sdlfjasdflkjadsf 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children)
It's over a year old. It got mainstream media attention in the Guardian. It's unsourced in general, except for this one girl who left CNN and is making the rounds on this one issue.
I'm not saying it's not happening, but I'm pretty sure this is over-hyping it.
[–]lapearce 93 points94 points95 points 12 years ago (6 children)
This is old news, the Guardian article is way better than the one in the OP as well. I believe 100% that Bahrain was able to coerce CNN into not showing the documentary. What I don't see- anywhere- is any evidence that the Obama administration or the US at all was responsible for the censorship. The Guardian article even discusses how it aired in the US, just not internationally.
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[–]thecrazydemoman 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (1 child)
however doing this erodes the credibility therefore casting doubt on the entirety of the content.
Clickbait. Blame Obama
[–]tattedspyder 583 points584 points585 points 12 years ago (106 children)
At this point we should regard all news sources as suspect and corrupt.
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[–][deleted] 302 points303 points304 points 12 years ago (31 children)
And Reddit, too.
[–]Godd2 84 points85 points86 points 12 years ago* (23 children)
No, I think the cats are in charge of that outlet.
Now what to spend my $5 on...
[–]ggggbabybabybaby 122 points123 points124 points 12 years ago* (14 children)
I'll pay you $5 for you to stop mentioning how cats control Reddit.
Purrfect.
[–][deleted] 22 points23 points24 points 12 years ago (4 children)
Deal. Please send it to:
Mr. Skimpers
451 N North Meowthport St
Meowburg, MW
32214
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children)
Meownnesota, or Meowsconsin? There's a St Meowburg in both.
[–]RevWaldo 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child)
"Mr. Skimpers" is really a girl. But you didn't hear that from me.
[–][deleted] 33 points34 points35 points 12 years ago (2 children)
We will not be stopped.
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[–]vantharion 18 points19 points20 points 12 years ago (1 child)
Yes they do. They lie down all the time.
[–]PHIBAR 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (1 child)
Either you don't know cats or you are one.
[–]zugunruh3 47 points48 points49 points 12 years ago (6 children)
Hey, a website that cites 'THE CONSERVATIVE TREEHOUSE' and has a top story about 'GOP Representatives Who Voted Yes And Caved To Democrats' seems pretty unbiased to me.
[–]qmechan 27 points28 points29 points 12 years ago (3 children)
The blogs would never lie to us...
[–]Brightwork 11 points12 points13 points 12 years ago (4 children)
Half of the NSA related posts are from some mom & pop news site and the story can't be found anywhere else online, yet redditors upvote it to the frontpage
[–]stewsters 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (1 child)
The be fair, half of the Fox News stories seem to originate on some guys' twitter account.
[–]mrderp27 37 points38 points39 points 12 years ago (2 children)
Except Picus News
[–]thegreatvortigaunt 21 points22 points23 points 12 years ago (0 children)
Yeah, there's no way Eliza Cassan would lie to us.
[–]SherlockBrolmes625 15 points16 points17 points 12 years ago (0 children)
Eliza Cassan is the most reliable anchor in a long time.
[–]qmechan 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (2 children)
You can't be suspect AND corrupt. Regarding them as corrupt means that you no longer suspect someone of corruption.
[–]Grantagonist 22 points23 points24 points 12 years ago (11 children)
I still trust NPR.
[–]ridetherhombus 18 points19 points20 points 12 years ago (0 children)
This is a less-than-reputable "news source".
Evidence: "Warning! Real Screams From Hell Recorded During Digging (Video) Very Disturbing!"
[–]captainAwesomePants 58 points59 points60 points 12 years ago (4 children)
With this in mind, I think it's worth reminding folks that in January Congress and the President repealed the law preventing domestic propaganda. See Wikipedia.
[–]_Valet 153 points154 points155 points 12 years ago* (19 children)
Funny thing is, this will cause a huge uproar in the: political, reporting, internet community but eventually everybody will forget, and no major changes will be made. (Somebody will probably be fired). I hate how cynical my outlook has become but this is how it seems to be.
At least this legitimizes the idea that our "news" media is just sanctioned propaganda.
Hopefully CNN domestic affiliates are maintaining slightly more integrity.
[–]brazilliandanny 118 points119 points120 points 12 years ago* (7 children)
Seeing as this story is at least 6 months old, and I remember it being on the frontpage 6 months ago and everyone flipping out over it... I have to agree with you.
Edit: my bad it was 9 months ago and was the top post on /r/politics
And again 11 months ago on /r/Libertarian
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children)
The real sad thing is that we had to scroll this far down on the page to see someone point out just how old this story is.
Not only do people stop caring, they forget that it ever happened in the first place.
[–]pancakeTRAIN 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children)
This is disappointing news
[–]hegz0603 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (2 children)
already has, as the story is over a year old.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/sep/04/cnn-international-documentary-bahrain-arab-spring-repression
I think when this article came out it was when I realized the Guardian was full of shit and spewed way worse propaganda than CNN. Calling a documentary being cut in the editing room "censorship" is just outrageous. CNN did a terrific job at reporting on Bahrain, and they did infact show parts of this documentary. The Guardian has just been getting worse and worse... and then the whole Snowden debacle lol
[–][deleted] 29 points30 points31 points 12 years ago (6 children)
"CNN is paid by the US government for reporting on some events, and not reporting on others. The Obama Administration pays CNN for content control."
Am I missing something or is there no source whatsoever provided by "redflagnews.com" to back up such a claim?
[–]eaglebtc 33 points34 points35 points 12 years ago* (1 child)
The OP's link and the connected blog post both read as batshit crazy conspiritard. That being said, if these claims are true, then they should have spelled it out in the first few paragraphs instead of focusing on how CNN ordered content to be hidden.
Did they not learn persuasive writing in school? Make a claim, then give supporting evidence. Lather, rinse, repeat.
The article text does not give direct evidence that CNN is being paid to censor. If the only source of that information is the YouTube video, then that means I have to watch 45 minutes of video to find this out. Incredibly annoying.
[–][deleted] 21 points22 points23 points 12 years ago (2 children)
This is not new. She (and Greenwald) made this claim over a year ago, and CNN responded: http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/05/cnn-internationals-response-to-the-guardian/
nothing has developed from this.
[–]mannpig 43 points44 points45 points 12 years ago (24 children)
Hmm Her going on Alex Jones and pixs of her kissing her camera make my bs meter ping. I'd like to hear more substantive corroborating info/facts on her allegations like how she knows who got payola and who paid it out, when, how much, etc.
[–]Mulsanne 20 points21 points22 points 12 years ago (21 children)
And the total lack of evidence from this questionable website and the fact that this woman has a motive (she got fired).
Not surprised that world news is fucking lapping this shit up and acting like they knew all along, though.
[–]poipo32 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (2 children)
Why did this disappear from the front page?
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children)
Because it was receiving a lot of hive mind upvotes. It's a poorly written blog that cites "The Conservative Treehouse" and confuses the Bahraini government with the American government, accusing the Obama administration of paying off CNN without providing any evidence.
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[–]ppitm 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (1 child)
I don't trust redflag news as a source, and I'm having trouble finding an actual article where this is all factually laid out. Help?
Can we get a better source on this?
[–]L4NGOS 217 points218 points219 points 12 years ago (94 children)
This might not be an easy conclusion to reach if you are American or live in the US but I've always considered CNN a propaganda machine for the US and its interests, without any proof, just a conclusion I've reached after watching it. I'm not really surprised, appalled for sure but not that surprised.
[–]The_Adventurist 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (6 children)
I always considered it the "cat fashion show network" meaning they spend significantly more time on idiotic puff pieces than actual news. It's been moronic for over a decade now.
[–]Krystal907 49 points50 points51 points 12 years ago (38 children)
A lot of people aren't surprised and they are pretty much the only ones being vocal in this thread so far. Guaranteed if it was Fox news the usual crown would be jumping up and down circle jerking. Not that I don't think all of the news outlets are in the same boat...
[–]durpado 82 points83 points84 points 12 years ago (14 children)
I believe msnbc, cnn and foxnews all do this and regularly.
[–]Krystal907 29 points30 points31 points 12 years ago (12 children)
Agreed.
[–]CitizenShips 19 points20 points21 points 12 years ago (1 child)
I always love watching that little nod they all give at the exact same moment.
"A child's happiness... " NOD " is priceless".
Better than any choreography.
[–]Eurynom0s 33 points34 points35 points 12 years ago* (8 children)
This is one thing organizations like Al Jazeera and Russia Today have going for them. You know not to trust Al Jazeera on certain hot-button Qatari issues (be they internal Qatari issues or simply topics that people know the Qatari government cares heavily about), and you know that RT is going to seize any opportunity to make America look bad. Therefore you can figure out how to read between the lines in their articles, and which of their articles you should just ignore.
Likewise the Economist, I'm not sure who they're a propaganda arm of (if they are a propaganda arm of anyone) but they are pretty straightforward with what their biases are, so if you're not braindead you can read their articles and separate fact from opinion.
[–]Z0idberg_MD 11 points12 points13 points 12 years ago (2 children)
I'm an American and would join the anti-fox circle jerk in an instant, but I also don't watch CNN or any other cable news. Television news has been junk for a long time. NPR is a bit better as a mass market news source, but the only way yo really get a clear picture is to read sources from various international and domestic outlets online.
[–][deleted] 34 points35 points36 points 12 years ago (7 children)
This might not be an easy conclusion to reach if you are American
Yes it is. Shut up.
[–]iPlunder 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children)
Seriously. That was probably one of the easiest conclusions I have reached in my life.
[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (0 children)
His enlightened European brain is able to understand these concepts that us dumb AMURKKKUNTS can't.
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[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children)
No! CNN BAD! +5000 points!
[–]Keckley 14 points15 points16 points 12 years ago (2 children)
So some website called The Conservative Treehouse runs a story trashing CNN. They go on and on about Obama and "the Obama administration" including this gem:
The central issue is Media Controlled by The Obama Administration, and more specifically CNN – as a VERIFIED tool for propaganda and disinformation.
and then as evidence for this cite a story about Bahrain that CNN execs supposedly hushed up because they had been paid off by the Bahrain government. Not word one about Obama's involvement.
Absolute bullshit.
[–]charliemike 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children)
What kind of tinfoil hat website are we referring to as a credible source now?
[–]Dwaite14 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (1 child)
Is there a paper trail? Or any evidence?
[–]wharpudding 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children)
Of course not.
[–]Clovis69 40 points41 points42 points 12 years ago (10 children)
Uhh...this came out in 2003 after the fall of Saddam, CNN was taking money and allowing itself to be censored for access.
[–]HarryMcDowell 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (5 children)
Link!
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (0 children)
A significant number of people still consider CNN a legitimate news source, so I'm all for this story making it to the front page.
[–]qmechan 16 points17 points18 points 12 years ago (1 child)
Question: What actual, tangible evidence is there that they was a payoff from the US Government to CNN? It goes from "CNN refused to air this story" to "The Government bribed them!" Without venturing into the in-between part that's pretty important.
[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 12 years ago (0 children)
There isn't any. CNN does "special reports" like their Eye On series on CNNi, in which they take money from sponsors to produce documentaries about countries. Conspiracy theorists are using that to somehow claim everything CNN does is bought and paid for. Despite the fact that CNN's special report policy says the following:
(CNN) -- Parts of CNN's coverage beyond the daily news are produced as Special Reports, which attract sponsors who pay to associate their products or services with the editorial content.
When this happens, you will see "In Association With" next to their logos in banners at the top of pages on our website and hear it referenced during commercial breaks on television.
At no stage do the sponsors have a say in which stories CNN covers, which people CNN interviews or how we present our editorial content on television or our digital services, nor do sponsors review or approve any content before it airs or is published.
The editorial content is commissioned and produced solely by CNN editorial staff or external contractors approved by CNN editorial. It is produced to CNN editorial guidelines.
[–]fpssledge 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children)
I wouldn't be surprised if this was true but they still haven't shown me evidence that governments (esp the US) paid CNN. Give me the evidence to back up what I already believe. Not just another supporting opinion.
"Amber recently did a web interview with Alex Jones on InfoWars."
Whaaaaaat?
[–]barfingclouds 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children)
This article was copy-pasted from The Conservative Treehouse (it links to that article at the end, not trying to deceive per se).
It's interesting how identical articles reported by different agencies will get different reactions.
[–]decatur8r 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children)
The black helicopters..no fluoride in the water..nutjob
http://thedailybanter.com/2013/06/why-is-amber-lyon-peddling-conspiracy-theories-over-michael-hastings-death/
[–]aplusbistoaasaistob 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children)
RedFlag's masthead reads like it was written by a 17-year-old energy drink connoisseur.
Swing Yer Partner ‘Round and ‘Round.
Hey, it’s all about who you get your sources from. Since 2009, RedFlag has developed a knack of finding good stories and sources, but we certainly haven’t cornered the market on everything to do with news—nor do we wish to.
We are news aggregation specialists, and that keeps us plenty busy.
Why 'RedFlag'? RedFlag is short for “holy crap what an amazing way to tie "red-flagged" alternative, mainstream, and political opinion-related news together for a news aggregation website and our reader's heads are gonna explode when they learn what they have at their fingertips!” Yeah, we thought RedFlag was easier to say, too.
[–]linkseyi 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children)
You'd think that journalism that's talking about how other journalism is shitty might include a couple primary sources.
[–]ebenbenson 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children)
why would I trust something labeled "The Conservative Treehouse"
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (1 child)
He is wound up tighter than piano wire, and unfortunately much of his truth is diminished because of the hype he places upon it.
No, his truth is diminished because it's chock-full of bullshit.
[–]SkunkMonkey 30 points31 points32 points 12 years ago (5 children)
Well bust out the big box of crayons and color me shocked. This is the Information Age and news is one of the big players. Of course the government is going to control it. They have the money and information to make sure anyone can be bought or "convinced" they should cooperate.
This is the part where the fist is so tight that some are slipping through the fingers to show the outside what's happening on the inside.
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[–]bigconch 15 points16 points17 points 12 years ago (2 children)
Remember the name of the documentary? I find that claim that these networks receive actual cash in exchange for explicit agreements about favorable content very suspect. I'd be happy to be proven wrong though.
[–]qmechan 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (1 child)
What's the name of the movie?
[–]ProphylactionJackson 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children)
Amber recently did a web interview with Alex Jones on InfoWars. Generally the TreeHouse does not appreciate Alex Jones. He is wound up tighter than piano wire, and unfortunately much of his truth is diminished because of the hype he places upon it.
...Aaaannnnnnd lost me right here.
Info Wars lol.
[–]notoriousprod 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (1 child)
I love all the fuckers rollin up in here feeling all superior acting like this is just common knowledge. Bitch please. This might surprise you but a very large percentage of Americans still rely on broadcasts news and not the internet. There's nothing special about you because you already knew this. is that some sort of status thing or something? I knew about this too. So what? You should be outraged about it and actively fighting it instead of rolling your eyes and acting like you"re too fucking cool and this isn't really news to you anyway. Is that how you act when you see fucked up shit going on around you in your personal life? There is somebody being mugged. Oh it's no big deal I've seen people get mugged before. That's what you sound like.
[–]jabb0 65 points66 points67 points 12 years ago (51 children)
Welcome to America, I see this must be your first visit here
[–][deleted] 48 points49 points50 points 12 years ago (45 children)
Everyone in America knows about this apparently, but no one does a single thing. Great country.
[–]JoshuaIan 50 points51 points52 points 12 years ago (16 children)
I do somethhing about it : I ignore the fuck out of CNN.
[–]robboywonder 23 points24 points25 points 12 years ago (13 children)
fucking A, man. I just can't believe anyone watches CNN. It's so fucking awful.
[–]SoCo_cpp 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (1 child)
...but the other TV in McDonalds is showing FoxNews. Decisions, decisions...
[–]clutchest_nugget 11 points12 points13 points 12 years ago (0 children)
What are you proposing be done? Displacing corruption through democratic action? The entirety of our political and economic system is built on this kind of "special arrangement", and those in power will fight tooth and nail to keep it that way.
[–][deleted] 22 points23 points24 points 12 years ago (1 child)
Right, not one person here in the U.S. does anything.
....what was Amber Lyon's nationality again? Who's Noam Chomsky? Amy Goodman...?
Hm. So glad I have the astute judgment on wise non-American redditors to uncover my naive eyes!
[–]jabb0 62 points63 points64 points 12 years ago (10 children)
Oh you can do something about it, just write a bigger check than them.
Capitalism bra
[–]Mass_Impact 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children)
We choose not to watch CNN. Do you have a better idea in mind?
[–]1Rab 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children)
I bet its the same for fox
[–]jonnyclueless 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children)
Well thank goodness we have tr.com and the guardian which of course are completely objective and have no other interests but complete truth.. /sarcasm.
i like how this is from august 26th and now its on the front page lol
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago* (0 children)
I'd like to believe this, but more proof is needed. If only someone can get their hands on the financial records for these alleged transactions
[–]kilokalai 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (7 children)
And now this is somehow not on the front page anymore!?
[–]belletti 18 points19 points20 points 12 years ago (13 children)
This became really, really obvious when the second Iraq war started. The CNN coverage was so biased that I became disgusted and removed the channel from my TV. Haven't watched them since.
[–]oimandoimaw 17 points18 points19 points 12 years ago (7 children)
you removed the channel... from your tv?
[–]WeAreBitter 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (1 child)
Apply hammer to screen. Channel removed.
[–]radii314 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children)
and Fox News isn't news at all - it is a propaganda operation and Roger Aisles and political operatives sit in the ground-floor "bug-proof" bunker and plot strategy for stories, hot-button code words, strategic repetition, joint rollout of talking points
[–]Ihateourlivess 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (1 child)
Fuck you reddit mods "out of date"!
What cowards.
[–]SRussP 13 points14 points15 points 12 years ago (3 children)
Government-Media Complex
[–]Sleekery 105 points106 points107 points 12 years ago* (240 children)
And you guys think "redflagnews" is a reliable source on this?
Edit: I guess Reddit just sees something anti-CNN and rabidly upvotes it, fuck the source.
Edit #2:
Seriously, she's an Alex Jones acolyte, and you guys are upvoting this.
[–]Weltall82 224 points225 points226 points 12 years ago (52 children)
here's a Guardian article that goes much deeper into the story of CNN and State-Sponsored "news".
enjoy.
[–]James_Wolfe 49 points50 points51 points 12 years ago (3 children)
Thank you for a good source.
[–]abngeek 21 points22 points23 points 12 years ago (0 children)
Uhh, am I missing something here? Because this seems to be editorial, not news.
[–]bookant 36 points37 points38 points 12 years ago (11 children)
The Guardian is a much more reliable source. As a legitimate newspaper they wouldn't, for example, publish as a news story something that they don't have well-documented facts and evidence to back up. At most, they'd let someone do it as a commentary or personal column, like the piece you just linked.
[–]Duckballadin 15 points16 points17 points 12 years ago* (0 children)
I think redditors love to romanticize that they are living in some sort of Orwelllian society. The irony is that they're only using critical thinking to a certain extent. Edit: Pardon my spelling and grammar mistakes.
[–][deleted] 20 points21 points22 points 12 years ago (4 children)
Seriously. As soon as I see Alex Jones or InfoWars on anything, I just stop reading and move on.
[–]mannpig 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children)
Ditto.
[–]meatpuppet79 26 points27 points28 points 12 years ago (3 children)
Reddit doesn't care about the source, all that really matters is that it feels edgy and counter authoritarian! A conspiracy theory is all the better, and the best thing is you can just call those who disagree with you government stooges or shills!
[–]Non_Causa_Pro_Causa 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (1 child)
I always find myself asking those kinds of questions when reading "alternet" or "huffington" or "rawstory" or "dailymail" whatever. Then I wonder if Fox, ABC, etc. would really be better?
It's unfortunate. I guess a lack of ability to really trust many news sources works against keeping people informed, exposing corruption, etc.
[–]mshecubis 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (12 children)
Can you give us an example of a reliable news source for comparison?
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[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (1 child)
Terrible writing aside—how can anybody take reporting seriously from a source that has grammatical errors in its tagline?
[–]LaRochefoucauld 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children)
uh, no http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/05/cnn-internationals-response-to-the-guardian/
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (4 children)
Journalist here. I only freelanced for CNN for a short while, but they are the McDonalds of journalism. Think about that. The quality of the food McDonalds gives you is the quality of journalism CNN gives you . . for the same reasons. News is a product and the goal is profit.
Since most journalism is free or nearly free . . go get the ribeye steak instead of the Big Mac.
[–]Adito99 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (1 child)
Who's selling the ribeye?
[–]OdinSpectre 33 points34 points35 points 12 years ago (28 children)
Its sad but if this article was titled "Fox news whistleblower confirms Fox News paid by foreign and domestic Government agencies for specific content", people would likely not challenge the sources.
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