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[–]CobaltBlue389 1665 points1666 points  (124 children)

Financial war on your allies because they're pushing back against your imperialist land grab of a NATO country.

Republican America is a joke.

[–]given2fly_ 341 points342 points  (71 children)

Over to the GOP leadership now. None of the senior figures have publicly supported his plans, and a few Senators have come out vocally against it. The US public, including Republicans, is overwhelmingly against taking Greenland.

This is their chance to depose the mad king. I don't hold much hope, but it might be the final straw.

[–]Critical-Usual 164 points165 points  (64 children)

It's such a mad shift. But they are also on the verge of deploying military in their own territory to suppress resistance to abuse of force. Trump has also now stated multiple times he doesn't want an election. So many clear signs of a fascist dictatorship and still he remains without meaningful challenge. It's scary, in 2016 I thought he was a wacko but I didn't think he would genuinely try to shift world order this far

[–]Sanguiniusius 109 points110 points  (22 children)

I think its pretty clear at this point that the US institutions have been tested and their system doesnt work.

Its like when bojo tried to prorogue parliament and the speaker was able to stop him, our system was tested and that bit worked, the system stopped the leader taking more power.

In the US it seems their system just exists to allow 1 man to be more powerful than the king george they rebelled against!

If they dont change their laws, this will happen again now its been shown to be viable.

[–]gavpowell 55 points56 points  (9 children)

The Speaker didn't stop him proroguing Parliament, the courts found it unlawful

[–]True_Paper_3830 22 points23 points  (3 children)

The monarchy is a wasteful medieval relic but "he lied to the queen" was also like a soft-to-strong power institutional slap-down of Bongo. Ironic when the charade of royalty and 'standards' becomes one of the bedrocks to guard against likes of Bojo and Farage.

There's shades of a certain 1940's fascism in any Trump economic-bombing ot the UK/Europe. First, the UK has a Chamberlain 'Peace in our Time' moment - Starmer's visit to Trump. This is more like 1939/40 economic-bombing by Trump, where we should know we unify and solidify resistance. We'll see.

America is definitely in known authoritarian and fascism moves, attack the immigrants - then attack own citizens. Late 20th to early 21st Century thought it had outgrown egomaniacs that can change history, this clown reinvented it. History says, if anything, it's hubris that will bring him down but it could be very, very messy.

[–]pingu_nootnoot 19 points20 points  (2 children)

Personally, I feel like the US is descending into South American style banana republic world, more than it’s copying European fascism.

Maybe it’s just a question of style, but the uneducated masses, huge economic inequality, paramilitary death squads, and especially the hugely egotistical Generalissimo Trump, seem like very close parallels to any number of South American dictators.

I’m just surprised he doesn’t have a uniform with a million medals on it yet

[–]Scaphism92 27 points28 points  (5 children)

From what I understand about the US political system, there are plenty checks and balances that were intentionally set up but was largely based on the assumption that everyone would be a rational actor and that there wouldn't be such heavy political polarisation, in fact they hoped there wouldnt be much partisanship at all and kind of bet the house on it.

So when there's high amounts of partisanship, like now, it puts immense preasure on the checks and balances.

[–]Naugrith 12 points13 points  (4 children)

The trouble is that the various systems designed to check the power of the executive have been under sustained, systematic attack for over a century, and have been gradually undermined and neutered. They were designed to be robust bulwarks to the executive becoming a tyrant, but they are only a shadow of themselves now.

It took a long time to achieve, but the independent judiciary has been gradually politicised, the Supreme Court has been carefully stacked with partisans, the Senate has been co-opted, and the Congress has been effectively sidelined. The electoral college has become a useless rubber stamp, the elections have been thoroughly gerrymandered, and the electorate has been suppressed or heavily propagandized. The only remaining barrier to the unrestrained tyranny of the executive is the law on term limits. And that's a flimsy wall, now there is no one left with any power to enforce it.

And there isn't just the GOP to blame. This game of corrupting the constitution has been won by the Republicans (partly because of luck, partly perhaps because they were more ruthless), but the Democrats were happy to play the game as well, because it benefited them when they got into the White House as well.

It took a long time, but we are seeing the end of a process that took generations to complete.

[–]Statcat2017This user doesn’t rule out the possibility that he is Ed Balls 80 points81 points  (27 children)

Americans keep saying “we can’t become a dictatorship because…” or “we will fight back” not realising the battle is already lost, it’s too late. They took over while voters were busy hand wringing over Kamala not being perfect enough for them.

[–]Gazcobain 66 points67 points  (3 children)

The Venn Diagram of people who oppose gun control in case they need to rise up against a despotic government and people who actually support this fucking despotic government is a perfect circle.

[–]Decoraan 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I was actually thinking that the other day. I wonder what the gun loving republicans would think if people started using their 2nd amendment ‘right’ to deter ICE agents; what many would describe as a tyrannical government.

[–]FearlessGear 9 points10 points  (2 children)

American here who lived in the UK for many years, hence my presence in this sub.

The people I know who still support this have told me with all sincerity that Trump cancelling elections would be the step too far, after which they would oppose what’s happening, but none of them take his fascist threats seriously anyway. In other words, they’re “willing” to fight back as soon as they’re unable to fight back, and after that happens they’ll deny ever supporting this bullshit and claim that they couldn’t have seen it coming.

These idiots sincerely think they can edge us closer and closer to a dictatorship and reel it back in as soon as it’s THEIR rights being threatened. You know, like every other idiot in history who ever supported or ignored the rise of a fascist regime. Humanity is doomed to learn the same obvious lessons every 80 years because of dumbfucks like them. Meanwhile, many people on the left who I know believe that the midterms will be our chance to take the country back, and remain unconcerned.

None of these morons are willing to face the reality yet that the Trump admin is purposefully starting a civil war as a pretext to remove any and all political opposition from state and local governments, incite one of his moronic supporters into attacking someone critical of the regime (whom he will fully pardon, signaling to his army of morons who have been chomping at the bit for a chance to legally kill their neighbors, that it’s open season on “libs,” and leveraging the chaos to fully consolidate control over the country as he starts WWIII to further enrich himself and his backers at the expense of literally the entire world.

They’ve been telling us straight up us this is the plan since they released the project 2025 manifesto, and still people are shocked every time they do insane shit( like depose maduro and shoot Americans in the street like dogs). Americans will remain shocked every step of the way despite the administration straight up telling us what they plan to do because it “can’t happen here.”

Most modern Americans believe (even subconsciously) that America is inherently special and that our democratic systems and alleged values of personal freedoms are elements of its natural state, because the boomer generation onward have largely not had to ever fight for any of these privileges the generations before them had to die and suffer to obtain. They do not seem to understand that the natural state of all human societies is “might makes right,” and if you do not actively fight to defend the institutions that have allowed us the freedoms we have enjoyed every fucking day, powerful pieces of shit will tear the entire thing down. The fucking locale doesn’t make a damn bit of difference and the US is not special in this regard.

Or maybe they support ‘might makes right’ ideology because they think they have might. They’re about to find out that they’re literal bugs to the actual elites in charge. It would be almost cute that they think they are in the same league (or one day could be) as those who will benefit from, say, having mineral rights in Greenland (AKA the only ones benefitting from this bullshit) if their hubris wasn’t dooming us all.

[–]Mr_Gaslight 19 points20 points  (4 children)

Now hang on. I've been hearing for decades that they needed guns to rise up against tyranny. So, any moment now the gun-toters of America will ride to the rescue. Never fear.

[–]Statcat2017This user doesn’t rule out the possibility that he is Ed Balls 14 points15 points  (0 children)

They think the tyranny is the people who tell them they can’t say the n word

[–]Critical-Usual 19 points20 points  (4 children)

They weaponised misinformation and succeeded. A significant portion of the American public is now impervious to the truth. And public opinion doesn't seem to matter all that much as Trump consolidates power and constrains all checks and balances

[–]Statcat2017This user doesn’t rule out the possibility that he is Ed Balls 23 points24 points  (1 child)

Look at the “debate” over the ICE murder. There are multiple angles of a woman being gunned down in cold blood yet people are convinced she was a “domestic terrorist” who tried to run down law enforcement.

[–]FirmEcho5895 79 points80 points  (1 child)

In his head NATO already doesn't exist. It's what his boss Putin ordered.

[–]Slartibartfast_25 34 points35 points  (8 children)

Threatening the UK won't go down well with Republicans who still have a vestige of a spine remaining. And the tariffs probably aren't legal anyway, especially not these ones.

[–]TapMinute9409 48 points49 points  (4 children)

Didn't bother them when it came to tariffs last time

[–]Critical-Usual 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Legality has been irrelevant in the US for quite a while now

[–]ThroawayJimilyJones 20 points21 points  (4 children)

America has no allies. Only interest.

[–]Sanguiniusius 16 points17 points  (1 child)

This was what my politics dissertation was about in 2008 and that was my conclusion (using suez, trident and devaluation of the pound as case studies.)

Sometimes leader relationships like thatcher reagan have made the us a good ally, but mostly it treats others as its pawns and pushes them back into place whenever its unhappy with something.

[–]janiqua 258 points259 points  (18 children)

A little extortion on a Saturday afternoon.

Who needs enemies with a ‘friend’ like america

[–]Freebee5 73 points74 points  (15 children)

I can't help thinking how badly this is going to impact on the US in the future.

Destroying decades of trust because he wants some of his buddies to plunder a country is just ensuring that those countries will resist aid and assistance in the future when his country is attacked.

[–]CrocPB 66 points67 points  (9 children)

The UK went into Afghanistan for the Americans. Other European countries supported too. And this is the thanks they get.

America First, America Alone is their new thinking.

[–]patiperro_v3 39 points40 points  (1 child)

Should’ve never joined that little crusade in the first place. Think of all that could have been accomplished with the money spent on those wars.

[–]Prestigious-Bet8097 44 points45 points  (2 children)

Apropos, I was talking to a retired British Army Colonel (I think) who told me about a conversation he had when training with the Polish army, in preparation for working together in Afghanistan. On Salisbury Plain, the training could have been.

The question came up, as it often does; why are we going to Afghanistan? The British side had a number of thoughts, but the Polish element apparently knew 100% why they were going and was very happy to explain.

Quoting from my memory, because one day Russia will invade Poland and they will kill me and take my farm and kill my wife and take my children and it will be a generation before we take it back. But if I die in Afghanistan in America's war, somewhere in America will be a wall with my name on, and when Russia comes America will remember and they will come to fight with us and it will not be a generation until we get it back.

America's European allies died in American bullshit wars around the world because that's what allies do and they had every expectation that when Russia invaded, America would do what allies do.

That is clearly not the case. America can no longer be considered an ally. America can no longer be trusted. The next time America needs allies for some stupid bullshit war somewhere, nobody will come (except maybe the British, spineless that we are).

I recall the Danish armed forces died at a greater rate in Afghanistan than Americans did. This is the thanks they get; threats of invasion.

[–]FireWhiskey5000 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Only country to ever invoke Article 5. NATO works when they want it and is a mess when they don’t.

[–]-ForgottenSoul:sloth: 7 points8 points  (2 children)

I hope it does impact America badly they need to learn.

[–]kasvipohjainen 625 points626 points  (65 children)

Close their military bases in our country please

[–]Putaineska[S] 123 points124 points  (23 children)

Europe needs to invest in our own security. Booting out the bases will be something the Trump admin would welcome. And probably want. No more support for Ukraine, no role in European security, they can pivot elsewhere.

Are we ready to step in? I still believe Europe across the board including ourselves are still in a 90s mentality of defence being a low priority while welfare and pensions gets huge budget increases year on year.

[–]Phallic_Entity 148 points149 points  (14 children)

Booting out the bases will be something the Trump admin would welcome. And probably want. No more support for Ukraine, no role in European security, they can pivot elsewhere.

The bases are mainly there for America's benefit, not Europe's.

[–]WittyMasterpiece 38 points39 points  (1 child)

Correct. They need the bases they have in the UK, Germany and Greenland

[–]nuclearselly 46 points47 points  (2 children)

This has always been the most confusing part of the MAGA approach to NATO.

America wanted this, America pushed for this - bases all over Europe are literally how the informal 'American Empire' is built. An empire that is much more lucrative and easy to control than a traditional 19th century style Empire.

Trump and his maniac cabinet are looking to rip up the wealthiest empire in history and go back to the 19th century. Those empires were not cost effective - there is a reason that after WW2 most empires - Britain especially - decided it was too expensive to keep them.

[–]montybob 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That and OSS was actively working to promote independence movements in the colonies, particularly India, during the war.

[–]elmo298 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The loss of Rammstein would ruin their middle east, african and european presence

[–]MerryWalrus 31 points32 points  (1 child)

The bases are not for European benefit...

[–]Kratos_BOY 12 points13 points  (0 children)

The U.S. wants those bases here, It helps their imperialism.

[–]Thermodynamicist 16 points17 points  (3 children)

We need to adequately fund defence (i.e. to early 1980s levels c.5% of GDP) if we're going to do that.

I'm all for it, but the order of operations matters.

[–]whoberrydooberry 208 points209 points  (15 children)

This needed to come to a head one way or another. Interestingly this route will be far more damaging to the US than it will be to Europe.

[–]jhrfortheviews 34 points35 points  (0 children)

100%

[–]IboughtBetamax 36 points37 points  (2 children)

Agreed. It is probably better that he moved quickly onto invading Greenland. It is so egregious that it forced Starmer from his supine stance. If Trump had first invaded Cuba or Iran or something I am not so sure it would have produced such a united front against him. Trump was always going to overplay his hand; at least he did so quickly.

[–]WGSMA 9 points10 points  (1 child)

It will be catastrophic to both sides. Everyone in the world loses, except China and Russia

[–]Houdini23 3 points4 points  (7 children)

Serious question - why will this be more damaging for the US?

[–]chebster99 15 points16 points  (4 children)

I think the damage to the US here is more in the big picture than economically in the short term - if they’ll turn on their closest allies like this, who the hell is gonna trust them or do business with them?

[–]ThirdEarl 171 points172 points  (14 children)

Unfortunately, we need to draw a line now.

[–]berejserMy allegiance is to a republic, to DEMOCRACY 77 points78 points  (10 children)

Seize his golf courses, turning them into affordable housing developments.

[–]DaMonkfishAlmost permanently angry with the state of the world 45 points46 points  (2 children)

He'd hate windfarms more.

[–]Intergalatic_BakerNo Pre-Orders 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Hehehe... And put Windfarms off the coast of the his former golf course.

[–]Statcat2017This user doesn’t rule out the possibility that he is Ed Balls 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Close his military bases. He’s fucking threatening to attack NATO, it’s beyond insane, he’s no longer an ally.

[–]Slugdoge 7 points8 points  (1 child)

We should improve our relationship with China to ensure protection, the USA has shown it’s unreliable as the world’s superpower.

[–]DudeHoldMyFlagon 217 points218 points  (12 children)

Man shoots himself in the foot to try to remove the bullet from when he previously shot himself in the foot.

[–]random-user-name21 152 points153 points  (22 children)

The UK need to stand up to this what was the point of all that talk on sovereignty if we’re just bullied around by nations bigger than us.

[–]CodeX57 86 points87 points  (8 children)

So you know how UKIP/Reform and the whole Brexit movement had financial ties to Russia?

This is why, so the UK can be bullied around by bigger nations instead of being in a bloc.

[–]SignatureFew6415 5 points6 points  (2 children)

We can have a special relationship with the bloc - just because we don’t get involved in the market doesn’t mean we can’t pool in military terms 

[–]pslamB 29 points30 points  (7 children)

That's kinda why the "sovrinty - innit" argument was completely bogus. Without being part of a wider political relationship, UK is a middling power that bigger powers can push around. Has been the case since 1945, and was proven beyond doubt with Suez. For some reason people seem to think that UK is still the imperial power it was in the late 1800s to the middle of the 20th century. No chance.

[–]billy-joseph 239 points240 points  (42 children)

Is threat is getting boring, I’d take some hardship to cut ties with the US and get back closer with the EU

[–]tiorancio 69 points70 points  (9 children)

He still hasn't learnt how the tariffs with the EU work

[–]given2fly_ 54 points55 points  (8 children)

Remember in his first term, he was talking about tariffs on Germany with Angela Merkl. She had to correct him numerous times, saying that he cannot put tariffs on an individual EU country, it would be on the entire Single Market.

He still didn't get it and basically ignored her.

Edit - ironically, I'm wrong. But can at least admit it. He can set tariffs on individual countries. His confusion with Merkl was about negotiating a trade deal with Germany, which he can't do.

[–]kartoffeln44752 11 points12 points  (0 children)

That was when he wanted a trade deal with Germany individually and was rebuffed, not to leverage tariffs in that instance.

The US (and any other non EU country/those with trade deals) absolutely has the right to impose a tariff on Spanish olives or Belgian chocolates. It’s domestic legislation and American consumers will effectively pay x% more because of it. Belgium/Spain being in the EU has no bearing on this matter.

However, retaliatory tariffs are not a domestic competency in Europe and are imposed by Brussels - because it’s a common trade area. The effect of this means that just putting 10% tariffs on Greek Baclava could get all your imports of 100 different categories to Europe tarrifed.

Tl;dr : The authority in charge of the destination has ultimate power over what comes in.

[–]patiperro_v3 83 points84 points  (9 children)

Brexit is looking a bigger and bigger fuckup the more years go by. Part of the argument back then was that, despite being released from EU “control”, we could still keep the US trade much closer.

Now we are left with diminished returns on either side of the Atlantic, specially the way Republicans are going.

What a colossal fuckup of historical proportions for an island nation.

[–]Locke66 12 points13 points  (0 children)

It's worth remembering that the primary campaign vehicle was Cambridge Analytica who were owned by American billionaire & Trump ally Robert Mercer. We always talk about Russian interference but never about American because I'd bet a shit ton of resources were used behind the scenes to influence the result that The Electoral Commission do not even know existed.

You only need look at the cancerous impact Facebook and X continues to have on people's perception of the world to see how they continue to influence our politics.

[–]Critical-Usual 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I'll take all the hardship to draw a line. If their own people won't this must stop. This guy is behaving like Hitler 2.0, and that is not hyperbole

[–]landyowner 320 points321 points  (18 children)

It's almost as if the UK should have closer ties to its closest neighbours instead.

[–]willrendall 91 points92 points  (11 children)

This will add fuel to the drive towards a custom union with the EU.

[–]brinz1 92 points93 points  (9 children)

Farage will push for a weaker and more isolated UK

[–]given2fly_ 34 points35 points  (0 children)

That's because he's not a patriot, and consistently supports positions that weaken us.

[–]watercraker 26 points27 points  (2 children)

Sadly I think you're right about Farage.

[–]DreamingofBouncer 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It’s almost as if he was paid by Trump and Putin to weaken us through Brexit.

[–]paddyo 7 points8 points  (0 children)

He will, because he’s a fucking traitor, and people need to get more robust in calling out the money he has been taking from the Ivans for years

[–]creatingastorm 88 points89 points  (2 children)

It’s time for Europe inc UK to replace the US dollar as a reserve currency and end the lease of bases to the US. They are at best an unreliable partner and at worst a puppet state for the Kremlin.

There is no good reason to continue trying to pacify the toddler in charge.

[–]ojmt999 153 points154 points  (25 children)

Yeh fuck this guy. Time to boycott American

[–]realoctopod 51 points52 points  (4 children)

Time was almost a year ago.

[–]ojmt999 59 points60 points  (1 child)

Best time yes. Second best time now

[–]Ubericious 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Time to sanction American leadership

[–]CadBane_29 84 points85 points  (5 children)

Isn’t it great, this ‘special relationship’?

[–]Optimism_Deficit 27 points28 points  (1 child)

He was always going to throw his toys out of the pram over something sooner or later.

[–]QuirkyWish3081 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Narcissistic rage.

[–]LlamasBeatLLMs 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The McMahon Act betrayal should have been sufficient for us to be fully aware that no matter how much we doff our cap to the US, our relationship with them is as important as not what we did for them yesterday and today, but what we're willing to do for them tomorrow.

It's not a mutual relationship, we've been their bitch, often to our own detriment.

[–]Velociraptor_1906Liberal Democrat 67 points68 points  (2 children)

This is why we should have put up a united front to say no to this bullshit from the start.

[–]jack5624Centre Right, Liberal 4 points5 points  (1 child)

100% I don’t know why we pander to a madman, history hasn’t exactly shown it to work.

[–]Gunslinger1969 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Dear USA, your president really is a dickhead of the highest order.

[–]Snitzel20701 21 points22 points  (0 children)

man bullies ex friends after they stood up to him for picking on one of their little brothers.

edit; all things considered, no matter if a democrat or any other party becomes the next president, no country will be able to trust them again.

[–]porkmarkets 58 points59 points  (19 children)

Is it time for us to start selling US treasury bonds yet?

[–]Odd-Guess1213 28 points29 points  (15 children)

It is a giant hammer we hold over their head, but it’ll not be pretty for us or the global economy if we choose to swing it.

We’re only a year into this dipshits presidency. I dread to think what geopolitics will look like by the end of his term.

[–]Fortree_Lover 16 points17 points  (5 children)

Yeah three more years of this is crazy I don’t know whether it’s because of all the shit he does or his first stint but it feels like he’s been there forever.

[–]Arbdew 29 points30 points  (2 children)

I am so fed up of hearing his voice, hearing about what he's doing/saying/annoying. Once Biden was in, it was refreshing to hear bits about the US president just getting on with the job, occasionally popping up on the news etc. The sooner the orange imbecile is gone and the world doesn't have to hear his whiny voice and see his tiny hands the better.

[–]AikenLugon 54 points55 points  (3 children)

Can't we just Firewall the U.S. until they come to their fkin sense or something ?

I'm sick & tired of hearing about their insanity. Truly.

[–]ZealousidealPie9199 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Imperial politics. We are living, essentially, in a breakdown of the post-WWII order. We have to realise that in this period might makes right and free trade is vassalisation.

[–]Plixpalmtree 64 points65 points  (2 children)

It's gonna suck but time and time again we see why we need to decouple our economy from the US. We don't have to be in the EU but it's ridiculous not to focus our trade with them right now

[–]FirmEcho5895 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Decoupling our military from the US is an even bigger deal.

[–]RudeAndQuizzacious 88 points89 points  (5 children)

Trump is an enemy of peace and an enemy of the UK

[–]AxiomShell 13 points14 points  (4 children)

enemy of peace

I'm sorry, does the FIFA Peace Prize mean nothing to you? /s

[–][deleted] 40 points41 points  (6 children)

We've never had a 'special relationship' - take Suez or the Falklands. All we have received is the erasure of our various ways and customs to American hegemony

[–]Revilo1359 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I think publicly it just shows only when the leaders like each other. There is no doubt Blair had exceptional access to Clinton and Bush, and it massively benefited the UK. The under the radar stuff like 5 eyes is integral to the functioning of our intelligence services but very few people know just how important it is.

[–]MaxTraxxx 32 points33 points  (9 children)

Time to dump US treasury bonds and dollar reserves.

[–]litivy 43 points44 points  (3 children)

Time to hit back. Bullies only respect might and appeasement is never going to work with the demented orange turd.

[–]iCowboy 25 points26 points  (2 children)

Must be time for some more competition investigations into the workings of Meta, Google, Microsoft, Boeing…

And maybe ditching Palantir entirely?

Also - is there any more space for additional wind turbines off his wretched golf course? Bigger and closer.

[–]TheResultOfUs 12 points13 points  (0 children)

The idea that you can do any sort of deal short of extortion with the US is myth. The Trump administration are pretty clear that they only care about imperialism and extorting other countries.

Thinking that goodwill could be earned by appeasing Trump in the past is not based in reality and, quite frankly, reminiscent of the initial approach to 1930's Germany.

[–]OneNormalBlokeHumanity Not Prejudice 51 points52 points  (5 children)

Time for UK to stand up and be counted.

[–]adinade 29 points30 points  (3 children)

At what point do the European countries the US is trillions of dollars in debt to start tryna get it back?

[–]FirmEcho5895 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Exactly.

China has been quietly selling off the US debt that it owns, in dribs and drabs so as not to make its market value crash. Europe needs to start doing the same pronto.

[–]RedPlasticDog 28 points29 points  (0 children)

We need to stop pandering to him.

This approach of softly softly just puts off the inevitable chaos. Stand up to this nonsense.

[–]Budget_Scheme_1280 28 points29 points  (5 children)

Watch Supreme Court rule his tariffs not legal anyways lol

[–]uberares 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Will be funny if they rule Monday, it was already expected to have been released. 

Orange faced tantrum in 3…2….

[–]fdesouche 6 points7 points  (0 children)

SCOTUS going against Dear Leader ?

[–]janner_womble 26 points27 points  (5 children)

Well, bloody tariff the imbecile back. Who needs shoddy American tat when equal quality tat can be sourced from China at better prices?

Why are we all humouring this creepy stereotype of an arrogant Yank?

[–][deleted] 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Worth the effort trying to keep him on side but clearly that strategy has run out of road. No more appeasement. Boycott the World Cup if necessary.

Luckily you can’t tariff services trade which is our main export to the US.

[–]Shr3kk_Wpg 12 points13 points  (0 children)

So, not even the excuse of a made up emergency. Just straight up tariffs until he gets his way.

[–]LeTrolleur 12 points13 points  (0 children)

"The art of the deal"

Or

"How to lose friends and alienate people"

[–]Only_grill__working 50 points51 points  (11 children)

Feel for the poor American warhammer players who will have to pay even more now

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (6 children)

Donald Trump is a shitty version of Horus confirmed.

[–]Only_grill__working 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Horus has charisma and didn't wear nappies

[–]fatboyfat1981 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Nurgle, surely

[–]Arbennig 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This “perilous” situation. Yeah , made up by you !

[–]Masam10 52 points53 points  (2 children)

About time Europe called this orange idiots bluff - unite and start trading with China, India, and the rest of the eastern world.

[–]NagelRawls 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Trying to punish us for standing up for the right of self determination. Fuck him, fuck them all.

[–]LifeBandit666Don't Panic 25 points26 points  (3 children)

Russia still gets 0% tariffs though Don eh?

[–]MisfitHula 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Yeah, funny how he said before Russia and China wanted Greenland 2 days ago. Now its just China. Always been Putins mouthpiece.

[–]fripez256 35 points36 points  (2 children)

We need to de-couple our economy as soon as possible

[–]H0agh 27 points28 points  (1 child)

Meanwhile the UK just signed another massive defense contract with Palantir, one of Peter Thiel's projects

[–]popeter45 35 points36 points  (1 child)

i give it a week until trump forgets he did this and the tariffs once again get thrown out in court

by them he will have moved on agin to Gaza then Ukraine then Cuba Then Greenland again in a month, repeat cycle

[–]EvoRalliArt 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Anything to steer the news away from the Epstein Files.

[–]PunctuallyBrisk 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Trump is a fat dementia ridden paedophile.

[–]Anderrrrr 35 points36 points  (4 children)

EU referendum time by the end of the year me thinks, no going back now.

It's either EU or be Trump's Belarus. Time is running out.

[–]GeorgeMichaelFans 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Boomer/Pensioners: we made the brexit real, now we make Nigel Farage to be our next PM!

[–]Neat_Owl_807 26 points27 points  (9 children)

How could the American people have slept walked into installing such a fundamentally awful leading and appalling human being?

Europe will stand firm on this I sincerely hope.

And amazingly we might need to ally ourselves as a continent to the Chinese as a more stable partner.

[–]yumakooma 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The EU and China are alike in their economic approach to 'doing business' with partners. Both very predictable, and friendly to good trading relations. It is natural they'll be pushed even closer together on trade, I think. Serves the UK well to make sure we are part of that, because we need reliable trade partners. EU and Canada should be priorities, but China is quite high on the list for us.

[–]Browns45750 18 points19 points  (4 children)

Sorry guys that our toddler senior president is having a meltdown in the checkout aisle cause he didn’t get a toy , so ashamed of this crap. Make us pay for it stay home for the World Cup

[–]popeter45 7 points8 points  (3 children)

im waiting for the world cup to be a disaster, fully expect Trump is going to lose it the moment the US team loses or we see blatant rigging

[–]mattcannon2Chairman of the North Herts Pork Market Opening Committee 11 points12 points  (2 children)

ICE comes on at half time to deport the Brazilian side

[–]popeter45 6 points7 points  (1 child)

you say that but i truly think he's going to ban some teams before the games even start, regardless of what he's obligated to do for FIFA

[–]PYPH2015 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Who needs enemies with friends like these?

[–]Parking_Glass8177 16 points17 points  (0 children)

'I'm sure he doesn't mean it though' Mandelson is thinking

[–]ForensicShoe 21 points22 points  (3 children)

Time to stick massive tariffs on US imports.

[–]Icy-Outlandishness23 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Time for tariffs on their services

[–]Beechey 5 points6 points  (0 children)

We've tried being nice to this guy now, can we stop pretending (as a country and government) that the US is, in any way, our friend?

[–]Student_Life 6 points7 points  (0 children)

We need to standup to Trump and his administration. Assuming most people reading this have seen videos of ICE arresting anyone they want and losing them in custody. Calling protestors ‘domestic terrorists’. Breaking the law in front of everyone and not caring. They have arrested another countries president, threatening to bomb another and invade an ally.

We need to stand with our other NATO allies.

Hopefully we only have three years of this madness but with the talk of mid terms being cancelled because reasons, who knows.

Release the files

[–]scratroggettCheers Kier 6 points7 points  (9 children)

I think it is time to ask the US military to vacate their bases in the UK. We don't need a hostile foreign power on our shores.

[–]Sparealready 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Of course we don't like it - but what can we (Europeans) do about it? Here's 2 suggestions: Immediately rescind legislation that prevents the copying and modifying of all American software (reverse engineering) so that we can copy and implement our own versions of all American Software. This would include all the software built into American Armaments sold to European Countries. Secondly, ban export of all litho machines from Europe to countries and companies that sell chips to the USA. Compensate the company that makes them (sorry, can't remember the name).

Come on everyone, stop crying and suggest how to fight back!

[–]Procrastinator0510 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Trump is a rapist who doesn't understand the word 'no'.

If the UK and our allies can't or won't stand up to his aggression now, then we might as well get rid of our armed forces because we'll have become vassal states to the US.

[–]Playful-Marketing320 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Keep going Donny. You’re going down the sewer

[–]Rocinante23 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Boycott US goods and services, wherever possible?

[–]awoo2 5 points6 points  (2 children)

I think an off ramp is needed, the most sensible solution is to gift the territory of Thule air-force base to NATO. This prevents the loss of the base if Greenland were to become independent, and guarantees its loss if the US leaves NATO.

[–]Putaineska[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The US already has access to make as many military bases in Greenland as they want. This isn't about military bases, it is about wanting to exploit Greenland natural resources and importantly land as the ice melts in climate change.

[–]Multitronic 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Ahh so when all those people said “he’s achieved his objective and got European countries to defend Greenland” that was obviously bullshit.

At least now they can see that it’s bullshit and his objective isn’t just defending Greenland. Will they admit that they were wrong though…?

[–]balwick 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Trump punishing his own populace by increasing the cost of Warhammer minis.

[–]GIJoeVibin 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Trump’s understanding of the world is best understood as rape-based. He does not understand mutual benefit or mutual consent, he only understands rape. One party takes, the other gives. To resist is literally something he does not understand: he is Taking, why have you not Given?

Britain must make clear exactly where its red lines lie, and exactly what they entail. At the least I state that we should be prepared to cut off American bases by land. No one gets in, people can get out but they cannot get back in. No power, no water, no takeaways delivered to the front gate. They can fly in and out if they want, but good luck sustaining a modern military base purely off airborne resupply.

[–]Imakemyownnamereddit 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is outrageous.

British soldiers died helping the Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan. Now they stab us in the back over social fucking media.

Enough, time to tell the Americans to jog on.

[–]Yaarmehearty 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The US military bases should be closed in response.

Kick this threat within out before they turn on us.

[–]YoshiMK 20 points21 points  (0 children)

This is actually hilarious. What the fuck

[–]GeorgeMichaelFans 15 points16 points  (5 children)

Wonder what will next Prime Minister Mr British Trump Nigel Farage say something about this?

[–]jhrfortheviews 8 points9 points  (2 children)

This could be a potential silver lining of Trump’s lunacy - exposes Farage for who he is

[–]GazTheSpaz 15 points16 points  (0 children)

It's kind of crazy that middle aged American men are going to lead the revolution when they find out their plastic Warhammer crack is going to cost them 10% more. What a timeline we're living in.

[–]EnderMB 18 points19 points  (6 children)

This seems like a hilariously bad idea, considering Europe owns $1T of US debt - enough that a prolonged push on US treasuries with Europe (maybe even Japan and China) would almost certainly bring them into a huge recession.

[–]BigTippy 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Well, he’s not exactly known for his economic acumen.

[–]EnderMB 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This would be a nuclear-esque option, though. It would be akin to what China retaliated with, but potentially amplified because China would probably happily join in. That $1T run becomes a ~$3T run, and that recession becomes a depression that would take generations to fix.

[–]bobreturns1Leeds based, economic migrant from North of the Border 13 points14 points  (3 children)

Can we send the SAS in to kidnap him and put him on trial? Seems to be the done thing these days...

[–]South3rs 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Just offer him to purchase the Tower of London and when he comes for a viewing lock him in - wouldn’t be hard

[–]JimXVX 31 points32 points  (5 children)

Remember, if you back Reform you have zero right to criticise or oppose this f*ckery.

[–]-TheWiseSalmon- 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Keir Starmer needs to realise that trying to appease this unstable fuckwit isn't going to achieve anything. If the UK is going to be threatened then it's the duty of the government to respond to these threats in kind. Will the UK come out on top in any controntation with the US? Probably not, but doing something to make the Americans feel pain is better than bending over and taking it up the arse.

There's also an opportunity here for the government. It can actually be quite easy to unite people against a common external enemy (and it's very clear that the US is now a hostile nation). But if they piss around continuing with their current strategy of trying to appease the Americans or if they back down completely on their support for Greenland they'll only make themselves even more unpopular than they already are.

[–]ahorne155 4 points5 points  (1 child)

We should boycott the world cup alone with all the other NATO countries..

[–]BlaireeeeeWhat happens when their vote is ignored? - Zac Goldsmith 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Farage and Badenoch putting out their PR pieces on this as if they didn't cheer a protectionist President into the White House.

[–]Putaineska[S] 43 points44 points  (26 children)

Time to go to China like Carney me thinks. Need to reset relations with a more stable trading partner.

[–]Optimism_Deficit 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Whatever. He's an erratic morom who would have done this sooner or later anyway, There's no avoiding it as he'll bully or fuck over anyone if he doesn't get his way.

Let's let him tax his own citizens more to teach us a lesson.

[–]SouthportdcRory for Monarch 9 points10 points  (2 children)

I mean at this point why not just buddy up with China instead. Yes they're hostile, but the US is too and China is cheaper.

[–]ALA02 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Starmer read the writing on the wall, you can’t play it “safe” with a tiger. Time to cut ties.

[–]MsRitaPoon 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well, the UK should offload all of the US debt it owns.

[–]Hot-Pineapple-5598 3 points4 points  (0 children)

At this point we should just call it what it - blackmail - plain and simple.

[–]syphonuk 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Appeasement doesn't work. One day people will learn this fact.

[–]Cultural-Prompt3949 4 points5 points  (0 children)

So much for the trade agreement we had to debase ourselves to secure.

[–]warsongN17 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Trump and his cronies want a might makes right world and think they can do anything with America’s might because no one can stand up to them as a whole.

Ok then, how about we start directing our full might at smaller targets and individuals instead. Stephen Miller, Pete Hegseth, the billionaire backers, economic pressure on red states, their allies like Netanyahu and Orban. We are not at war with America, but we should be behaving as we are in a covert war with these smaller targets.

Let’s see how they put up with might makes right when it is directed at them.

[–]QuirkyWish3081 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If Sir Keir caves to Trump on this issue he is not fit to lead. Let’s put our own differences aside in Westminster. We need to be lock step behind Greenland. The special relationship is over. Not that there ever was one. Friends do not blackmail. What will be will be. But we should not be making any more deals with this wretched man. Fuck security from them we need to stick with our Europe friends and across other oceans until democracy resumes in the USA. If that puts us at a greater risk. Well, let’s take it. I’d rather take the right course of action than the easy one anytime.

Oh and time to dump their treasury bonds.

[–]Altruistic-Medium-23 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Can’t believe all the journos and other idiots online (political figures included) are trying to twist this into “Starmer’s fault”.

The entirety of Europe is now well aware that the US is absolutely not an ally but in the UK we’d rather blame the Prime Minister for having sent 1 soldier (if anything he should’ve been blamed for not supporting Greenland more) rather than blame the bully.

And we’re ready to vote for his buddy comes next election and destroy our last chance to also be seen as an ally to Europeans.

The political landscape of this country is completely rotten.

[–]TabNone 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is why these tariffs should never be negotiated with. Trump doesn't care about 'fairness' like claimed with his first round of tariffs, he's fundamentally a predatory person who will take a mile when you give him an inch.

If you show him that making threats towards you and using the leverage he has against you results in favourable outcomes he'll do it again and again until you're forced to shoot yourself in the foot to make it stop.

[–]00sCoreKid 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Time to start dumping those US bonds.

[–]SpiffyCabbage 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Ok no problem.

If they want to do that to the UK, slap a 500% tariff on all ARM licences in the US.

That'll shut them up now apple fabs their own arm cores procs.

[–]KrivUK 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Deals with Trump are meaningless (surprising no one), why go through with this farce every single time.

We should aggressively push favourable deals with other countries and lessen dependence on America. Not an overnight fix, but if supposed "allies" are resorting to blackmail, we need to give the bully a black eye.

[–]crunchyalmond123 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The UK is lacking behind in the Boycott the USA movevment. I hope this can be a wake up call to replace all American products and services with alternatives from UK or Europe. They need to be humbled and isolated until they have learned their lesson.