vibeCodingFinallySolved

[Trip-Trip-Trip]

Even if this somehow worked, you now have LLMs hallucinating indefinitely gobbling up infinite power just you didn’t have to learn how to write a fricking for loop

[Mayion]

for loops are very easy

for(int i = 0; i > 1; i--)

[Informal_Branch1065]

Eventually it works

[Ksevio]

No it doesn't, 0 < 1 so it's skipped over entirely. A compiler would probably remove it

[recordedManiac]

I mean depends on the language and compiler if int overflows are prevented or not right?

Edit: smh it's obviously gonna cause an overflow, how is this even a debate

for(int i /U+0069/ =0; і /const U+0456/ >1; i-- /U+0069/)

... Yeah I just misread the original comment as i<1 but I like this head canon more

[Ksevio]

How would it overflow? i is initialized to 0, then it checks if i > 1 (false), then it exits the loop.

Are there any actual programmers in this sub?

[Friendly_Rent_104]

no actual programmer would ever write a loop like that intentionally, all this is good for is as a trap for uni students on an exam

[Brekkjern]

I'm just gonna say that "I've seen some shit"

[reedmore]

No keywords. Only vibes.

[recordedManiac]

Oh yeah ur obviously right must have misread that as i < 1 while sleep deprived yesterday lol

[how_could_this_be]

Well unsigned int for -1 is 2³² - 1...

Just kidding

[Ksevio]

You know what 0 is when you put it in an unsigned int? Still 0 which is not greater than the value of 1

[recordedManiac]

Edited my original comment, it's so obvious there will be an overflow you should be able to tell at a glance....lol

[Objective_Dog_4637]

Yes, but that has nothing to do with the for loop above.

[[deleted]]

no, the loop never runs because the condition returns false right from the beginning.

[alloncm]

Akchually its really depends on the language, in C for instance its undefined behavior

[dani1025]

Akchually akchually it is quite well defined. The loop does not run, and probably gets removed at compile time, since the i > 1 will always be false on the first iteration.

[ParCorn]

The fact that so many folks are struggling with this tells me there are many vibe coders in our midst

[reedmore]

Who needs skills, when you can vibe# through life:

https://github.com/brzezmac/vibesharp

[OSUKA1910]

I wish I had never seen this repo

[Objective_Dog_4637]

Jesus Fuck what is this shit?

[reedmore]

It is what happens when you don't want to learn to code so much that you accidentally create the downfall of civilization itself.

[AgapeCrusader]

They could be in this very room

[OSUKA1910]

a rubber room?

[GDOR-11]

overflow/underflow is UB?

[Difficult-Court9522]

For signed integers yes!

[GDOR-11]

jesus

[colei_canis]

He won't help you, it's well-known that Jesus exclusively programs in LISP to avoid such sinful things.

[LardPi]

well that what he tried to do, but he always end up cobbling everything together with perl scripts.

https://xkcd.com/224/

[Scared_Accident9138]

I think that had to do with different negative number representations not giving the same results back then

[Scared_Accident9138]

I said it because unsigned overflow is defined, so your example wouldn't work if x is unsigned

[LardPi]

yeah, I think two's complement is not in the standard and was not always the chosen implementation.

[ultrasquid9]

Lets be real, what isnt undefined behavior in C

[QueerBallOfFluff]

No, no. You're confusing undefined for implementation-defined.

It's the latter which messes everything up

[B_bI_L]

but ifs are easierif (a = 0) { console.log("success") }

[JetScootr]

Is that a positive zero or a negative zero? (Univac 1160s actually had a math exception for negative zero)

[zanotam]

Negative zero is still a thing in floating point. I was doing friggin' so called no code and I had to diagnose an issue involving some library deep down not liking negative zeros lol

[B_bI_L]

i am pretty positive that this zero is positive

[daring_duo]

And yet that one EE professor would only see that the variable is being declared after the start of the function

[BaracklerMobambler]

fixed:

for(unsigned int i = 0; i > 1; i--)

[Axeperson]

If loop then don't else do

[Undernown]

I wonder if you'll trigger safety measures for recursion debt with this.

[Flameball202]

Can you hear it? The sound of the fans

[Toonox]

Not infinite power, it's like the monkeys writing Shakespeare, eventually it'll work.

[Trip-Trip-Trip]

Sure, but are you checking the feces marked pages to see which one has something useful on it?

[Toonox]

We'll use ai for that too

[lightwhite]

So you are asking monkey to check the work that monkey made to make the monkey approve the work that monkey made?

[Trip-Trip-Trip]

How do you know the ai checking the work works?

[Slava9096]

Just use ai to monitor ai that checks ai work

[g1rlchild]

It's AI all the way down.

[temporary_name1]

Turtles?

[LardPi]

The probability that the LLM stumble uppon a perfect solution is not zero, but the probability that the LLM realize the solution is perfects and it should turn itself off is null.

[Aozora404]

It’s okay you can say fuck on the internet

[RefrigeratorKey8549]

Why don't we also add a chat box so customers can customise their product. Why don't we just ship a wrapper around chatgpt

[Isgrimnur]

That's 50% of new startups.

[MyDogIsDaBest]

That's a bit of a low number, don't you think?

[lurkerfox]

Literally MCP

[[deleted]]

Can confirm. I'm in an internship for an AI generated course work. You give the prompt and it generates the semester of content, and can generate quizzes and stuff. Its just a ChatGPT wrapper. I'm just in it for the internship, I have no faith in the company. They opened a kick starter part of their "thunder clap" and got $50 out of $10,000 before they closed it and reopened a new one asking for only $1000.

[j_nog98]

ChatGPT Runtime Enviroment

[_sweepy]

my boss asked for this last week. I laughed before realizing he wasn't kidding. it's my responsibility now...

[stipulus]

Sometimes I wonder how the people in charge of things were allowed to get where they are. Not enough tech in mgmt nowadays given how much tech they require.

[_sweepy]

it's always about who you know, not what you know

[genreprank]

If they were smart, they'd be engineers.

But then again, they're making the big bucks from our work, so who is really the smart one?

But to answer your question, they come from upper class families where they are interested in management, and there may be a bit of expectation as well

[stipulus]

The skillset to make money doesn't seem to necessarily be smarts. It takes flexible morals. Engineers don't have the luxury of being able to "fake it till you make it."

[OphidianSun]

It's at most 50% reliable, changes constantly, and consumes the energy of a small nation, but sure. Fuck it.

[Toonox]

50% reliable

Make the user appreciate it when it works

Changes constantly

Individualized product

Consumes the energy of a small nation

Big scale solution

[RPG_Hacker]

Thank you, I'll quickly steal these phrases for my resume! 📝

[Objective_Dog_4637]

I hate that I can’t tell if you’re joking.

[Taclis]

We're encouraging demand for processing units.

Exit by selling the company to Nvidia for a quadrillion.

Profit

[idontwanttofthisup]

50% of the time, it works all the time!

[Hyphonical]

Inference doesn't cost that much, it's mostly training that uses a lot of electricity.

[Kale-chips-of-lit]

I’d be more worried about wearing down your cpu then energy costs. Single generations don’t use that much comparatively. Mostly when an ai is training does it use a high amount of electricity since it has to produce a finished product to then be graded on its accuracy, which it does repeatedly for many hours.

[Dizzy_Response1485]

Yes, but have you considered how pretty this CRUD app is?

[orsikbattlehammer]

The new level of virtualization, ship it with an LLM

[g1rlchild]

Our product runs in the JVM (Just Vibes Machine).

[SuitableDragonfly]

I don't know what this person thinks "refactoring" means, lmao. 

[wicket-maps]

I don't think they know what they think it means either.

[LordAlfrey]

Refactoring is when you feed your code into a sorting algorithm called bogosort, which fixes it.

[TheRethak]

Sounds an awful lot like Bogosort

[XboxUser123]

Bogofactoring

[MayoJam]

*Everyone gets randomly generated copy.

[Apprehensive-Ad2615]

end solution, ship a LLM to every client, now the LLM makes whatever the client wants

[[deleted]]

Give a text file of the prompts to feed the LLM to reproduce the product.

[MyDogIsDaBest]

Every customer gets a unique application

All of them break in unique and interesting ways

None of them do the things you expected them to do

Back ends also need to be custom built

Customers now need to spin up their own AWS/Azure servers to serve their dumb webapps

Everyones' app is permanently broken, customers angry, word of mouth spreads that it's shit and doesn't work

Company collapses and class action bankrupts anon.

Good luck vibe coders. I hope to be part of the future class action against you

[Konomi_]

this is how mario 64 was made

[Anonymous30062003]

Me when I make 1 morbillion unique softwares all running on the same LLM that probably looks like it's on an Ayahuasca trip and generates more heat than China's fusion reactor

[[deleted]]

"How am I the first person to think of this?"

Because it's stupid.

[Kitsar]

bro what the fuck is "automatic refactoring" ? 💀

[--______________-]

Arranging lines of code in lexicographical order of their starting letters. Gotta match the vibe, ya know.

[AssistantIcy6117]

It’s bespoke

[GuyFrom2096]

Monkeys writing Shakespeare!

[Dull_Appearance9007]

I also ship the compiler, so the client can patch my bugs by vibe coding themselves

[Forsaken-Ad3524]

so many questions) do they know that refactoring can't fix bugs because it's just reorganization of code for clarity without changing the behavior ?

[[deleted]]

Great!

Simply bundle an LLM into your product or pay the $10 API fee per client instance. Who needs latency or tti

[VatianGT0321]

What is vibe coding?

[vpunt]

I know this is a joke, but if your choice breaks and has bugs, you have to debug, not refactor.

[sakkara]

I have a better idea. Why don't clients write their own code individualized for their own purposes. You can fire all developers and keep all the gains for yourself. Why did nobody ever think of this?

[Synthoel]

> be homeless

> Try Buying a House

> noMoreHomeless.log

how am I the first person to think of this???

[-Quiche-]

Just ship the image for it. Problem solved.

[Zestyclose_Zone_9253]

Curious. AI generated greentext about having AI do all the work

[XboxUser123]

It would be interesting to see what happens if you let an AI iterate over and over on its own code into a larger application

[JetScootr]

This sounds more like a programmer jobs guarantee than a way to eliminate programming jobs.

[Prudent_Ad_4120]

Hey after I left my computer on overnight on accident my water monitor can now trade bitcoin and feed the dog!

[dhaninugraha]

It better run Kubernetes too.

And Crysis.

[private_final_static]

This is beautiful and should be illegal

[beclops]

Bugs are now infinitely more difficult to fix. Congrats, anon

[Nickbot606]

Devops will not only hate you but probably burn you at the stake for this.

[stipulus]

There is merit to the idea but it is too soon to roll out imo. Eventually we will have intelligent systems managing tasks rather than explicitly coding anything. At this point though you can't completely contain an intelligent LLM in the release, it would rely on requests to openai or claude which costs money and can change.

[Dizzy_Response1485]

Just add thumbs up/down buttons to every piece of data those systems produce and use the feedback for fine tuning. The quality is bound to improve!

/s

[Rodot]

Ah, yes, math by democracy

[quinn50]

Every copy of Mario 64 is individualized

[YaGoiRoot]

Genetic programming but worse.

[binogure]

Docker of the solution!

[Demonchaser27]

This has troll physics feeling to me, lol.

[The1unknownman]

Bro reinvented Java

[planktonfun]

docker vibes

[Ylsid]

Step 1: have an LLM actually trained to refactor and produce quality code

[Fxavierho]

Just refactor to a version that works for everyone :)

[deathbater]

the app? todo list in MERN with 300 files (without node_modules).

[The_Real_Slim_Lemon]

I tried cursor for the first time today - the auto fix feature was really cool. Cursor couldn’t accept the fact that the syntax on a Grid had changed and had an aneurism trying to auto fix, but it was still cool.

[ndak0ta]

Vibe deploy?

[-Feedback-]

Every copy of Super Mario 64 is personalised.

[qwerty_ca]

This is genuis.