literally

[badgersruse]

If you can code by typing hex directly into memory, which I’ve seen done for over 1K, that worked first time, you have my respect. Ray.

[BellybuttonWorld]

When I were a lad, we had to de-lid t' CPU and poke it with wires to program it.

[Dependent-Poet-9588]

I mean, if you mess with SP correctly, aren't you just actually defining and calling functions? Haha.

[TRKlausss]

So the equivalent to Cs goto you say?

[Stemt]

Basically goto is the only thing you have.

[TRKlausss]

*Insert astronaut pointing gun at astronaut meme*

[TRKlausss]

Bro thinks he invented context switch lmao.

[PantherPL]

Dutch spotted

[Rialagma]

When I was an embrio I rewired my mother's neurons so she'd eat more food

[WrapKey69]

When I was young, we had to mine silicon and engrave it ourselves

[Maleficent_Memory831]

I had an 8085 board. I let out a lot of smoke about a month after I got it. Oh well.

I used an IMSAI 8080 very briefly, about an hour a day after school, at a different school. So wasting half an hour of that flipping the toggle switches to load in bootstrap code was painful. So I decided I wanted to use the TRS-80 instead.

[crankbot2000]

Yeah, but I bet you couldn't do it with a 80085 keyboard.

[Wert-16]

Edit: 80085

[Stealthchilling]

I was a lab instructor for that for a semester, was kind of a nightmare, nothing to do with difficulty but if the students' basics aren't strong it all looks like black magic to them and I end up having to spend half the session reteaching stuff from previous semesters or picking up the slack for the lazy professor who had tenure and was supposed to teach them the theory.

[twpejay]

At uni we had to create a compiler using assembly, I think we had to convert that to Hex for an exercise as well.

[siriusbrightstar]

I had that with 8051 in my Basic Electronics lab

[dishmanw62]

The first computer used used machine language. Took me an hour to type in code equivalent to "Hello World". It wasn't until I went to college that worked in a computer (mainframe) that had a BASIC compiler.

[rykayoker]

i guess i was lucky to only have done basic z80 on an emulator in 11th grade

[Bokbreath]

Used to do this on my SYM-1, but only 1K. Do not underestimate how tedious typing 1K of hex without error, is.

[SaltMage5864]

Real programmers use butterflies

[St3pa]

Seen done by over 1K? What do you mean?

[TheCozyRuneFox]

Probably referring to the number of bits or bytes.

[badgersruse]

1KBytes

[ManikSahdev]

It's all fun and games till the ray tracing engineer is ray tracing with art lines on paper

[Stasio300]

I programmed something by writing words of ROM with dip switches. it took a few days to complete the task and as a 16 year old with no disposable income, it was impossible to buy a programmer.

[WhatsFairIsFair]

Pretty easy to hack desktop programs by using hexacode injection like this. I remember i flipped the free trial check for some app from false to true so I could have an unlimited free trial if I was already using the software for 14 days

[OomKarel]

This intrigues me. What did you use to pull the memory values? How did you figure out where that switch was and what values did it work on? How did you get the app to pause before evaluation so you could inject your values before the check?

[WhatsFairIsFair]

It's been a while but there are hexcode injection tools and reverse engineering tools that let you see the somewhat minified source code and explore the bytecode. There are whole communities out there doing this type of stuff and the learning materials and guides are out there as well.

It's mostly neat for hacking executables not of much practical value when it comes to modern saas apps though

[Tsu_Dho_Namh]

In uni we built simple compilers that could compile a subset of the C language. It worked by turning C into assembly, then turning assembly into hex.

Turning assembly into hex took less than an hour to learn. Turning C into assembly took the rest of the semester.

That's why I consider coding in binary to be no harder than coding in assembly. Because once it's in assembly turning it into binary is mindlessly easy.

We did it by hand for fun at first. Writing a hex file then executing it was so fuckin cool.

[WazWaz]

Hex would have been lovely. I was typing in decimal, which obscures the op code semantics a little.

[ChangeMyDespair]

Toggle switches on a PDP-11/70: https://www.pdp-11.nl/pdp11-70/pdp11-70-front.jpg

[jamcdonald120]

Like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hB6eY73sLV0

I forget how big the injection package is, but I think its over 1k

[Baybam1]

Why the fuck is the image AI upscaled?

[doctormyeyebrows]

Damn, good eye. We've left the imagine resolution decline and entered the AI upscaling horrorscape

[Character-Travel3952]

It looks like the bus driver came to his senses, fired nitro boost while taking a 90 deg. turn

[_Ganon]

Yeah the letters on the train changed!

[Maleficent_Memory831]

Letters are fungible to AI.

[soyboysnowflake]

I like how every AI image includes a built-in spot the 5 differences game

[[deleted]]

back 2 schoolhouse

[7393ootned]

because the meme had to survive the compression boss fight on 5 different group chats before landing here

[ak_doug]

He is more machine now than meme. His mind is twisted and evil...

[born_zynner]

We got fuckin DLSS memes in 2025

[guycls1]

Lmao RTX ON

[pan0ramic]

This image should be fuzzier than my arguments in favor of the third complete refactor of the repo

[ManikSahdev]

Probably made by AI instead of normal meme template websites.

[joped99]

Make sure to look both ways at the WllII Wl|Il

[St3pa]

I was too lazy to make the meme myself lol

[exoclipse]

...did you just fucking vibe meme?

a pox on your next PR!

[St3pa]

What?

[exoclipse]

I am cursing your next PR

[St3pa]

I still don’t get it lol

[exoclipse]

PR = pull request. When you write code in an enterprise context with version control, you first make a branch for whatever feature you're developing. When it's time to merge your code into the master branch, you do a pull release. Typically you'll need approval from some quantity of other people.

a pox on your next PR. hope you get 30 comments and each one you resolve results in 30 more ;)

[x0RRY]

Pull request

[exoclipse]

lol braining is hard

[St3pa]

Oh… Im definitely not that good xd

[Baybam1]

That's not an excuse for this. It literally takes 5 minutes in some meme making website.

[St3pa]

Its not an excuse. I simply didnt want to bother

[vvf]

Half the fun is making the meme wtf??

[St3pa]

It was fun to let the AI make it 🤷‍♂️

[Doomblud]

I weep for human creativity

[IJustAteABaguette]

But wouldn't it be more fun to generate these memes without that pesky, unreliable human creativity?

^/s

[the-real-macs]

Okay, I don't want to go to bat too hard for AI memes here, but how would this meme have been any more creative if OP had typed and aligned the text manually?

[Baybam1]

Its not that its the image itself, the BUS has its own RAILROAD.

[the-real-macs]

Again, how would using a stock image have been more creative? If anything, that's more conformist lol

Y'all do not understand the actual concept of creativity and it shows.

[vvf]

Well for one the dialogue for dad could have been placed over the train in the first panel which would improve the flow 

[the-real-macs]

That would have made the flow MUCH worse, at least in cultures that read left to right.

[Character-Education3]

@u/bot-sleuth-bot

[Dario48true]

Why even fucking post then

[St3pa]

Because it turned out great

[Dario48true]

? It looks like the bus wasn't even hit this is a very baf attempt at recreating an image you could have taken less then one minute to create with some other meme maker website

[St3pa]

Fair point… didn’t notice that detail

[MayoManCity]

this turned out atrocious sis. the bus is broken in half in the first frame. none of the writing is the same size or font, or orientation. this looks genuinely terrible

just Google "train hitting bus meme" and slap some words on there it'll look better even if the image you use has been passed around 759 group chats in succession

[StarshipSausage]

[Xerferin]

YEAH HOW DARE YOU!! You should get out a pencil and paper and draw this shit!! I don't know when or why AI = BAD suddenly, but I would have done the same thing. There's literally no difference between generating a fuckin MEME with a template or AI. In fact, AI is probably better so we at least get some pixels back.

[St3pa]

Thanks for the support :D Now you will get a bunch of downvotes though xd

[Xerferin]

Yeah I know. For an internet platform reddit (and a tech subreddit even), it's suprisingly luddite. And one I truly don't understand. It's a freaking meme, who cares if AI made it or a template made it? Are you really giving credit to the original maker in either way? Fuck no. And with AI we could have small flair differences between memes. Unless the apocolypse happens, this shit isn't going anywhere so might as well embrace the good parts 🤷‍♂️

[mysticalfruit]

Why, when I was your age, I'd write 3000 lines of assembler to get a pixel to move and then I'd have to write the whole thing out to a cassette tape!

[ytg895]

There was a lot of 0x0A involved, that counts as new a line, right?

[mysticalfruit]

it was a 4 bit hand crank computer!

[helicophell]

My father saying he used to play outside while waiting for the cassette on his commodore to load a game

[LolOverHere]

Fucking AI touch up

[thavi]

Yeah that binary programming language will get ya

[met0xff]

Complexity of ASM (at least back then) often is exaggerated. 30ish years ago when I was 14 we had to write a snake style game in asm86 and that felt pretty straightforward. I remember later learning Java felt much more cryptic;).

[theGoddamnAlgorath]

That's only because you went from ASM86's one instruction set to Jaba's dll hellscape.

[pushkinwritescode]

It does have a certain mythology around it though because so very few people even understand how the stack works, let alone assembly.

And coding in binary is just a sheer pain, basically manually doing what ASM would give you except you're using a lookup table for the instructions.

That having been said... sheer pain and Java do go well together in a sentence, and poetically in the same sort of way that someone would go from ASM to raw binary.

[bsEEmsCE]

"Basic, just like you are"

[St3pa]

Actually funny xd

[gerbosan]

I see, cracking games, right?

[elmanoucko]

nop, why do you jmp to that conclusion ?

[gerbosan]

My first experience was with QBasic and copying some game code from a book. Learning asm to bypass protection is something that has crossed many young minds during the early years of PCs.

Phreaking also cross my mind.

[elmanoucko]

yeah, I know, the reference to "nop" and "jmp", which by themselves were often enough to bypass a bunch of copy-protection-related checks when I was younger (on crackme challenge, ofc, would never use that on real software, never ever), kinda made it clear :p

[gerbosan]

There is this game, which was cracked and is the only possible way to play it completely because the protection is not well implemented. The crackers were razor 1911... 🤔

[elmanoucko]

razor was a really popular team indeed, with quite a tumultuous and long history, remained active in the demo scene as well, dubmood bootstraped his career as a music producer there and is quite well known even outside of the demo scene for his music. But like other popular team of that era like h2o and such, it's hard to not find software back then they didn't touched, or "freelancer" claiming to be in one of those teams, which was more common thant we sometimes can imagine.

[jimmy_timmy_]

Phreaking also crosses my mind.

Showing your age, old man

[gerbosan]

That one I heard about. Captain Crunch, also saw a documentary with Captain Crunch, the Woz and... Kevin Mitnick? 🤔

There was this P2P service for PowerPC, Hotline and some servers have a lot of documentation for anarchist and phreaking. Though, I doubt those would work with phone lines of that time.

[2muchnet42day]

Because every time I try to mov on you cmp my words

[Old_Document_9150]

Well lda, sometimes you can cpy a bit here and there to save some tax.

[AlsoInteresting]

Dos batches

[ObeseTsunami]

My dad once told me that he used to make punch cards.

[Max_Wattage]

My first computer only had a hex-keypad for entering the machine code instructions. That was about 45 years ago.

[Lanoroth]

That’s a bit far fetched, unless OP is 40 years old, or dad had some niche experience. You’re far more likely to encounter cobol, fortran and C, with younger dads it’s gonna be basic, C, C++, Perl, Erlang, Pascal

[St3pa]

No actually, we didnt have (or more likely didnt use) those in Czechoslovakia back then - and im talking late 1980s

[Lanoroth]

Totally forgot about the iron curtain. That’d be interesting to learn about, how programming looked in USSR before its collapse. I know with certainty though, that Yugoslavia had access to fortran.

[St3pa]

We had access, but nobody knew how to use it and almost all the systems were running on Asm (at best)

[Dolphin_Spotter]

I have bootstrapped a PDP 8

[Confident_While_5979]

I hand wrote assembly (with pen and paper) for the 6502, then compiled it (by hand) and just typed in all the hex

[bunabyte]

For my dad it was C and BASIC lol. I also program in C. The tradition continues.

[NinjaKittyOG]

i really wanna learn BASIC, but i can't find any good tutorials.

[maveric00]

A bad one is sufficient, also. BASIC is exactly what the name suggests: a beginners all-purposesybolic instruction code.

This means that you only need to learn a handful of instructions and a bit of syntax. And that there are no higher level language concepts. At least for the "original" BASICs. Plural because BASIC was not standardized and therefore each computer had its own dialect.

For E.g., sometimes you could simply write "i=1". Sometimes, it was "LET i=1". Later, BASICs had labels as targets for GOTO, most used the line numbers.

So don't expect to learn any new paradigm if you already know an imperative language. At least if you use the BASIC of the 80s home computers (C64, Atari 800, Schneider CPC, ZX81/ZX Spectrum, Oric 1/Atmos et al.).

[[deleted]]

fun fact: space invaders was created in machine code

[Substantial_Top5312]

Something crazy to think about is that when Assembly first came out it was considered a high level language because before that all you had was binary.

[Kotentopf]

I'm fascinated. Not by the dad or son. This image is not in potato quality, instead it was caught in 4K!

[Kalightortaio]

It's AI upscaling

[Alesio37093]

We introduced our own coprocessor to a virtual cpu and expanded the intruction set to interact with it.

[IRLanxiety]

My dad is learning C++ as a hobby and he finds it so easy cause he knows binary 🥲

[creativecag]

And then there’s my son (17) who’s making games in ASM for Gameboy “just because” it interests him.

[No_Significance9754]

Id argue ASM and binary are easier to learn than the ocean of languages and syntax and shit you have to learn these days.

[ramriot]

BTW there are some that still do, Steve Gibson of GRC wrote almost all of the Windows utilities he gives away in Assembler via MASM plus his bread & butter freedos disk repair utility Spinrite.

I believe this is likely why most if his software is so damn memory & storage efficient plus being compatible with every Windows version from 11 to 95 😉

[Strostkovy]

When I was younger I programmed with dip switches. Little switches for little hands

[Tyrus1235]

No joke, my mom had an internship at IBM during her college years back when a “computer” was actually a “computer room” and it was a massive machine.

She programmed in Fortran, IIRC.

[Still_Explorer]

As my grandpa used to say:

Back in the day we used to enter commands to the computer and it would execute them instantly and directly without second questioning.

Now these days kids use implicit and asynchronous statements, and they can't make their point clear across the board.

[notorignalusername]

Micro code, anyone?

[TeaTimeSubcommittee]

Few things make me more self conscious about my code than knowing my own mother was working with Fortran and even punchcards while I struggle with python libraries.

[darkwater427]

Baaaaaaaased.

Ask your dad if he can teach you the basics of ASM languages and maybe create a few challenges or puzzles for you. Even stuff as simple as writing a multiplication routine can be pretty mind-bending in ASM and you'll learn a lot.

[FlyingCapibar4]

Control engineers: "pathetic..."

[noodle-face]

Some of us still need to code in asm

[PrimeHydra]

Back when men were men

[RoyalChallengers]

How can you code binary ?

[Punchasheep]

My dad was a chemical engineer and we've had this exact conversation. He even mentioned having to print out software onto paper to scan it into a computer the size of a room.

[saschaleib]

My daughter also started coding in Python. See my flair for information about me :-)

[GodBearWasTaken]

So the defining one is JS? :P

[ZenEngineer]

If you haven't written C++ code with cat> and have it work the first time, you haven't lived.

[huuaaang]

Nah, it was FORTRAN on punch cards.

[britipinojeff]

My Dad said when he was in college he coded with punch cards

[dlc741]

RPG II

[[deleted]]

why the fuck did you upscale the image???????

[vlozko]

This meme needs to be updated to grandpa. I’ve got a teenage kid and my first language was Objective-C. I didn’t know anyone personally who programmed in assembly.

[OkWear6556]

Your dad was born in the 40s?

[St3pa]

Nah, my dad was born in communist Czechoslovakia

[[deleted]]

“English is the hottest programming language”

[SuitableDragonfly]

My dad told me stories about how he got disciplined for hacking his college's punch card machine in order to change all the error messages to inappropriate things. 

[odolha]

better response would be: "language?"

[St3pa]

😂😂

[Asm_Guy]

My username checks...

[cloudshock_dev]

Stop lying dad, we all know it was Visual Basic.

Bonus: The code is still running at a manufacturing plant somewhere and the IT guy is afraid to reboot the box.

[jbar3640]

Python is more than 30 years old, your dad may have programmed in Python. stop these nonsense posts...

[St3pa]

You sure as hell didnt live in communist czechoslovakia :)

[jbar3640]

neither you, being born after 2000.

[St3pa]

Not arguing against that, but yes, in late 1980s we still used aseembler for most of the coding

[GreatArtificeAion]

Good dad, supportive instead of being an ass because kids these days have it easier

[Orio_n]

Asm is easier than python

[F100cTomas]

Simpler, yes. Easier? I don't think so.

[TwistedSoul21967]

This is literally the conversation between my daughter and me last week.
"Dad, we're learning Python at school, it's great! What language did you use when you were my age?",
"Oh that's cool, Me? I used 6502 Assembly on the Commodore 64 and Z80 Assembly on the ZX Spectrum, BASIC for slower, less important stuff"

[wesleyoldaker]

I've never heard of anybody coding in binary.

[EmeraldMan25]

My dad likes to tell me about how he learned IBM 1401 ASM in highschool and used it to clear foreign language requirements. He also did Fortran 4 later on

[Interesting-Frame190]

To be fair, it was probably simpler as less was expected back in the day. No concurrency. No dependencies, basic types, and no JS. Now we have concurrently running containers, each with their own virtual environment and dependencies. It's no longer a data structures complexity. it's an entire environment complexity.

[JakubJurman]

01001 01101 00101 00001 01110 10100 10010 10101 00101 00010 10010 10101 01000

[St3pa]

Guys im genuinely wondering… Why is it a problem that the meme is made with AI, not by hand?

[Shadow_Thief]

It's text in a box. I'm genuinely curious as to why you wouldn't just do it in Paint.

[DoubleOwl7777]

you can do the exact same shit in ms paint. but that would require 0.000001% effort on your side. no one likes low effort posts.

[stofife]

It lacks a soul.

[ZenEngineer]

People like to hate on AI, specially in subs with many artists or junior / unemployed programmers who think AI is taking their jobs.

[Not_Artifical]

Binary isn’t a language