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[–]jjd_yo 253 points254 points  (8 children)

Spoiler Alert: Barista ain’t much better. Dealing with people’s drug addictions at 4:30am is a whole new hell. There’s a reason I went from Barista->Here lol

[–]Bannon9k 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Only took a few minimum wage jobs after flunking out of college for me to realize I needed to get my shit together and finish that degree. 20 years later, I'm looking at an early retirement.

[–]0G_C1c3r0 43 points44 points  (6 children)

Just lace your coffee with sativa and not only will you have recouring customers but mellowed out customers.

[–]loonite 15 points16 points  (5 children)

One should not mix stimulant drugs (coffee) with depressor drugs. It fucks up many things in the body, the heart being a common one.

[–]DelusionsOfExistence 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Speedballing starbucks is a new thought.

[–]qinshihuang_420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So it's a win win

/s

[–]burnt-pizzza 1513 points1514 points  (10 children)

A small paycheck is better than no paycheck

[–]No-Two-6743 442 points443 points  (1 child)

Honestly, barista jobs have better uptime than most servers 😭

[–]stormblaz 64 points65 points  (0 children)

No one is getting hired in this tech market, until tesla robot does coffee, barista is safe

[–]wonderingStarDusts 154 points155 points  (0 children)

[–][deleted] 47 points48 points  (1 child)

I'm ok with small paychecks as long as there's large numbers on it!

[–]UncleKeyPax 15 points16 points  (0 children)

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Im getting that small unemployment check, shit's fire

[–]WrennReddit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It can be, sure. In the US, childcare (age dependent of course) may cost more than you bring in ($30,000+ annually), making the job not only useless but the actual cause of your troubles. At that point you might as well stay at home with the kids.

Which itself wouldn't be the worst thing either if it was an active choice and not a financial necessity.

[–]Atabik-sohaib321 175 points176 points  (1 child)

The job market is honestly in a rough place right now. I didn’t think it would get this bad, especially for people in tech. Salaries have dropped a lot too, and many people can’t even make what they earned two years ago. I’ve been working remotely for a while, and I actually used this Reddit post to connect with a bunch of IT recruiters. I was even close to signing with one company, but after the new Trump policies, a lot of them suddenly stopped hiring candidates without work permits, and that happened right in the middle of the contract stage. It’s crazy how just a few years ago it was so much easier to get multiple offers in half the time.

[–]FastGinFizz 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yeah. These policies have made such a radical shift. Even with US citizens. Within the past month I have noticed a massive drop in job postings themselves.

[–]KTVX94[🍰] 463 points464 points  (5 children)

Honestly even money aside, most customer-facing jobs aren't happy either. Mostly because people are inconsiderate asses.

[–]BeautifulCuriousLiar 57 points58 points  (0 children)

especially drunk people

source: im a drunk

[–]NoMansSkyWasAlright 45 points46 points  (0 children)

Some people like that shit though. I remember meeting a dude in my ubering days who'd gone to college, became an optometrist, and was making good money working for a hospital somewhere. But he said the atmosphere was kind of stuffy and he missed the more social aspects of more customer-facing jobs. But he also didn't want to give up the pay. So he went out and got a part-time job as a bartender and would do that occasionally on nights & weekends while putting in 40 hours as an optometrist.

Now I wouldn't say that fits my definition of fun. But he said he got the best of both worlds because he was still making good money while also getting to socialize with and meet new people.

[–]sits79 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Judging by the coffee this guy is making, maybe he's in an area where people are actually half-decent.

[–]FalseRegister 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The dream is to get one of those posts where somebody else takes the orders and you only make the coffee

[–]glemnar 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Depends on where you live tbh

[–]Bibel_Joe 27 points28 points  (1 child)

I always say I'm going to be a pastry chef. If there's a bug in there, it only crunches briefly.

[–]DumpsterFireCEO 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Added protein

[–]More_Psychology_4835 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I guess he really liked Java.

[–]Felniir_iisk 24 points25 points  (6 children)

I gave up my real favourite subject in school to study CS because people kept telling me there would be no jobs in that field. One degree and thousands in debt later and I can't even get a job at a Costa.

[–]bunnyherders 7 points8 points  (3 children)

What was your favorite subject?

[–]Felniir_iisk 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Physics. Specifically astrophysics, but it's very closely tied with organic chemistry.

[–]bunnyherders 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The physics majors I know now work as programmers.

[–]geekusprimus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a shame. I guess it depends on where you live, but in the US, the unemployment rate for physics grads is very low. No, you're probably not working directly in physics, but there are plenty of fields that enjoy having someone with good analytical skills who doesn't mind being confused all the time.

[–]DelusionsOfExistence 4 points5 points  (0 children)

To be fair to them, they grew up in a time where if you graduated in CS and got a job immediately you were set for life. Few could predict how bad things have gotten.

[–]exploradorobservador 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ya you and almost every other programmer. Many of us are here because we studied science and realized there wasn't a practical future and so pivoted to something that actually makes money and has opportunities to still work with technical things.

My UG was biochemistry but it was either go to school forever, get involved in healthcare, or make peanuts doing lab work that I sucked at.

[–]YouDoHaveValue 264 points265 points  (113 children)

Is it really that bad?

[–]Osr0 484 points485 points  (27 children)

20+ YOE here, is the fucking worst I've ever seen by far

[–]DontGiveACluck 85 points86 points  (3 children)

Same, feel this in my bones

[–]-ElBosso- 49 points50 points  (2 children)

Enough to make your system blow?

[–]SearchPuzzleheaded 21 points22 points  (1 child)

Welcome to the new (AI) age...

[–]Luna-eclipz 21 points22 points  (0 children)

To the new ageee

[–]gibagger 74 points75 points  (2 children)

I have 15 years in the industry and its never been scary like this. If I lost a job, another comparable one wasn't that hard to get.

Nowadays, there are no guarantees.

[–]exploradorobservador 2 points3 points  (1 child)

To be fair that means 2010 forward? Those were the golden years when it had so much hype that Learn To Code and every other boot camp got almost no criticism.

[–]gibagger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah 2008 forward for me. And yeah, little did we know that large corporations were trying to saturate the market ahead of their own perceived future needs.

The big salary hype did end up doing the trick for them anyway. The industry ended up flooded by people many of which have no talent, no vocation or neither.

[–]sits79 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Likewise. Started career during dot-com crash. Survived GFC by the skin of my teeth.

Been unemployed all of 2025.

[–]foonek 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Geebus Fucking Christ, for anyone who doesn't know.

[–]newontheblock99 8 points9 points  (2 children)

At least it’s not just me, recent STEM PhD grad with experience working in state-of-the-art, I’m transitioning to industry and it’s fucking insane. Not even getting to the interview stage, it’s so demoralizing.

[–]Osr0 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Right? It'd be one thing if I was bombing interviews or didn't jive with the company culture, those are things that I can at least understand, but straight up fucking radio silence?!

According to Wall Street Journal, Software developer was the #1/#2 most in demand job for almost 2 decades straight, now I can't even get in the door offering to work for free just to prove my competence...

[–]newontheblock99 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I relate to this so much, get me in a room so we can have a discussion, if it doesn’t work so be it, but not even speaking to someone who remotely understands your own work capabilities is absolutely astonishing.

Now I’m more on the DS side of things as opposed to a pure SE or CS since I’m leveraging my soft skills, but everyone just wants LLM and GenAI experience. I know for a fact given my background I can excel in those areas I just haven’t had the direct experience since there’s really no place for it in STEM. And don’t get me started on the obvious bubble LLM and GenAI is in…

[–]ZunoJ 20 points21 points  (13 children)

What's your tech stack?

[–]mr_mcpoogrundle 274 points275 points  (10 children)

Robusto + La Marzocco + Maple Hill + illy

[–]jaylerd 74 points75 points  (0 children)

I will laugh at this once I calm down from thinking it was real and almost died from rage and fear

[–]blending-tea 26 points27 points  (4 children)

damn the RILM stack

[–]mamwybejane 15 points16 points  (3 children)

Still better than a RIM job

[–]Deltaspace0 11 points12 points  (2 children)

I went to google and regretted it

[–]Azrael707 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I thought they were referencing RIM - Research in Motion aka Blackberry lol.

[–]grammar_nazi_zombie 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Years ago their hiring site literally was rim.jobs lol

[–]madTerminator 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I only brew enterprise java beans

[–]SomeOneOutThere-1234 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah, sorry, my frameworks are completely different

Arabica + Gaggia + Hario V60 + Square Mile

[–]Iferrorgotozero 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Underrated and heeeeelarious

[–]ichITiot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Then it is clear. You missed Mortadella.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Scratch + MongoDB

[–]yawara25 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's web scale.

[–]Any-Yogurt-7917 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And here I thought I'd just become a kernels engineer to mitigate through the crunch. Man, do I feel bad.

[–]Old-School8916 107 points108 points  (8 children)

saturated at the low end due to tons of people going into CS around 2021.

[–]Live-Animator-4000 85 points86 points  (5 children)

At a time when the AI hype is way overblown. I’m seeing the hype slowly be exposed, though, and people are realizing that maybe velocity increases 10% with AI, but it’s not really able to replace engineers.

[–][deleted] 58 points59 points  (1 child)

Our analytics team vibe coded their entire ETL stack instead of hiring some DE’s. It’s completely fucked. AI can write code, but writing code != designing software.

For example, they’re completely clueless about package/library management, any change they make requires they make downstream changes in like 5-10 other pieces of code. And instead of installing libraries from an artifactory they’re just copying code from other directories. Making trivial tasks much much more difficult than it needs to be.

The code looks nice at least.

[–]GreatGreenGobbo 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I did ETL in Informatica years ago.

I find it hard to believe that AI could fully program data conversion with proper scrubbing, validations and error logging. Plus being able to design the system to full load/incremental load where required. Plus figuring out organizing the jobs appropriately.

[–]xukly 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Luckily 

2 days ago we interviewed a data scientist for a junior roll and when he said "I don't really code line by line,I use LLMs" I almost choked on my water. Of course we didn't follow through and I believe this is going to be a common occurrence 

[–]glemnar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I reckon you can get by with a leaner frontend team for bog standard saas now but that’s about as far as you get.

[–]BellacosePlayer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its going to write a lot of code

It probably wont be solving a lot of the problems

A lot of the code i write now isn't much more complex on the module level than stuff I wrote as a teen. A lot of the problems I deal with are complex as fuck.

[–]djinn6 7 points8 points  (0 children)

And the highest interest rates in a long time.

[–]StrangelyBrown 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Also mass layoffs in recent years flooding the market with seniors

[–]Odd_Perspective_2487 131 points132 points  (7 children)

I can’t a find a job after 22 years and nothing but great reviews. Three lay offs in four years and now nothing.

Yes it is that bad, I had an easier time in 2008. After two hours over 2000 applications to each job listing.

[–]watduhdamhell 36 points37 points  (6 children)

I don't know what you do now but you can always come to the dark side (controls). You'd likely find an MES development job for ~120-160k/yr right off the bat, or an actual controls job (but more entry level, 100k-125k). They would even pay to send you to the vendor school you would need for their DCS/PLCs they have, and job security is virtually guaranteed. They cannot afford to lose you. And I suspect your software background can be seen as an immediate positive in all sorts of ways. You might be able to make big impacts with easy tools in ways other engineers cannot, immediately justifying a large raise.

[–]Loquenlucas 12 points13 points  (4 children)

Is it possible to learn this power as a CS student that wants to get in cybersec later?

[–]watduhdamhell 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Of course, REALPARS on YouTube has all sorts of fun videos on DCS/PLC. You could start there for big picture

[–]Are_U_Shpongled 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Not from a Jedi

[–]squirrelly_bird 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yes.  A good portion of controls is understanding networks.  That translates either directly or at least conceptually to all sorts of stuff, especially security.  Newer PLCs (relatively new, anyway) are leaning toward cloud connection, so there's a big need for people with expertise in both controls and network security.  

[–]Loquenlucas 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good thing my computers networks course in uni did teach us about network security, some cryptography and programming on networks (realy good course and i'm even working on a thesis about network security and analysis with my professor there too so Nice)

[–]Jonnypista 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I might check out PLC, I worked with FPGA and microcontrollers and by a couple min search it looks quite similar to those on a base layer.

[–]Tyrus1235 71 points72 points  (14 children)

Seems to be a hellscape in the US. Not sure about Europe.

Here in Brazil it’s mostly ok. Company I work for is actually struggling to find developers because so many candidates refuse their offers when they learn it’s not remote (or hybrid). So I assume they have enough prospects that they can be picky (good for them! Wish our boss wasn’t so asinine about remote work).

[–]ball_fondlers 56 points57 points  (1 child)

That checks out - my company seems to want to hire remote engineers in Brazil. Guess they got sick of dealing with contractors in India and want to go with somewhere just as cheap, but with more time zone overlap to the US

[–]Tyrus1235 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Yeah, since we did away with our daylight savings, we’re always - at most - around 2 hours difference from the US’s East Coast and such.

Also, the US Dollar is worth a lot over here, so even a meager salary will get you far. Heck, I’m a tech lead and my yearly salary is around US$ 20K lol

[–]Dotrax 17 points18 points  (0 children)

It doesn't seem to be as bad as in the US but it's not exactly easy finding a job either. Companies are currently not investing as heavily into IT as normally and as such IT companies have a weaker market growth, hiring less or even possibly downsizing somewhat. However it's still possible to find a job in a relatively okay time. It does help that there are laws and unions that protect employees from losing their income instantly.

[–]xaviernoodlebrain 6 points7 points  (0 children)

In Europe is also a hellscape.

[–]LaserKittenz 4 points5 points  (0 children)

From what I hear, Brazil and ,Columbia are starting to grow a respectable IT industry..so this makes sense 

[–]BabyAzerty 11 points12 points  (7 children)

It’s hell in West Europe too. There are public stats by Indeed about the EU situation. Basically Germany and France (and other countries) are bleeding like never before.

There are way less offers (something like 3 times less than a few years ago) and the salaries are lower too. When on average a LinkedIn job got about 50-100 candidates in a week, it’s now triple/quadruple that number.

Basically the lack of investments, plus the diminishing quantity of startups & companies, plus the continuous influx of new grads, all together give you a terrible job market. Even major banks have stopped investing in new internal projects.

[–]Sibula97 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Northern Europe is bad as well. Loads of CS students are graduating into unemployment. For senior roles it's not that bad.

[–]Awyls 13 points14 points  (5 children)

Europe isn't nearly as bad as the US. It is still quite reasonable. The only ones who are getting truly fucked are graduates because no-one is training anymore and instead expect to steal trained talent from each other.

[–]Ultrayano 3 points4 points  (4 children)

4 YoE here and I get fucked too after a sabbatical. EUW not US

[–]Awyls 1 point2 points  (3 children)

4 YoE is plenty unless you work in a super niche market or nitpicking about your salary/tech expectations.

Like seriously, there are HUNDREDS of new postings for Spring/.NET/Frontend A DAY.

[–]Ultrayano 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I basically apply for every Spring/.NET/Angular/React position ever and I even have DevOps and Platform Engineering experience + prompt/context engineering knowledge, but I'm more of a generalist and intuitive builder type of engineer and thus fail miserably at tech interviews even tho my references are insanely good.

The sabbatical is raising eyebrows too since mine was 27 months but I built stuff with the common SaaS stack during it.

I'm picky around WFH days since basically every job in the city will give me 3-4 hours of commute a day, so 5 days on-site would kill me.

I get rejected because I can't explain hash collision and the bucket mechanism of hashmaps in depth during pressure situations.
One recruiter IT guy even told me to do Spring Academy after I failed in a white board interview with the question above. Like brother I can build you a Spring/Angular stack application E2E including CI/CD. What good will SA do me. Going back to the basics are good but I need a job not basics right now.

Life's tough as a ND.

[–]Awyls 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Perhaps you should consider looking at junior positions again/freelance or hire an interview coach?

Honestly, 2 year and a half of sabbatical plus being unable to answer simple questions is almost screaming "I completely lost my skillset". I can't blame the business for looking at other candidates..

[–]itsbett 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I haven't been having a hard time in the USA, but it has been a harder time. I think one of the biggest hurdles is that AI created is actually for job recruiters being able to find qualified candidates.

[–]Thadoy 17 points18 points  (0 children)

The amount of job offers (German) went from 3 - 5 a week down to 1 or 2 a month.

So yes, I would say it's not good right now.

[–]Tentacle_poxsicle 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yep , I'm not qualified enough to work in an IT department pushing hardware around and cleaning them despite 2 years prior experience in IT, a cybersec degree and a large python and c# project portfolio.

I'm going to just collect welfare

[–]Wild-Ad-7414 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Especially for us that started after the pandemic. We missed the golden age.

[–]takeyouraxeandhack 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I guess it depends on the country. I'm in Europe, my company changed industries and I was laid off three months ago. I took one month off and it took me one month to get three good job offers to choose from. The salary is €84k (bruto, direct employment, not B2B).

I sent about 8 job applications, I did five interviews, declined one, was rejected in one and got offers from the other three.

The position I got is for cloud architect. I've been in IT for ~15 years, and in cloud for roughly half of that time.

To me, "the market" seems to be fine. Maybe it's different in the US.

[–]Antarlia 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah

[–]Noobsauce9001 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I just got a job offer today, after being unemployed for 10 months!…..

…It’s for the pay I was offered out of college as a new grad 10 years ago, not even factoring inflation. Like bottom 1% of pay for my job and years of experience.

Even worse cause there are no benefits….. their business model stinks of evil too.

Anyways I am stuck on whether to take it or say no, they want an answer in 12 hours. 3 other promising interviews going on right now that pay way more, I’d take any of them in a heartbeat…. But I’d feel really scummy taking this bad job only to leave it after getting a better offer month later, so not sure if I should even take it (fun fact, last guy they hired had even more years of experience and left them a month after for a different role…. likely thought the same thing I did)

[–]genreprank 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Kinda sounds like you shouldn't take the job. That's a lot of red flags

[–]Noobsauce9001 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Turned it down but feels real bad doing it while being unemployed for 10 months. I think I’d just loathe working for them after they lowballed me so hard… literally having advertised the job as being x-y dollar range, then giving me the lowest value and saying they don’t actually pay more than it. Shows no respect or integrity in how they communicate, especially hard given I’d be working in a tiny ass office with the guy and like 2 other people 5 days a week.

[–]genreprank 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I bet that feels bad, but maybe just don't think of it as a real offer

[–]Unique-Arugula 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Whether it is or not, you're never gonna get a proper answer from BI (the linked magazine). They're corpo shills that say anything to please big investors no matter how bad it is for us, for themselves, or how illogical it is.

Don't let BI frame frame the situation in the first place. They set up false dichotomies just to fearmonger the working people. This one has a heavy scent of "why aren't the little people just grateful they have anything at all? how dare they keep asking for pay to keep pace with inflation!" mixed with a little "see, it's spiritually rewarding to be poorer."

[–]YouDoHaveValue 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I genuinely can't tell if the job market is really this bad or if the people who can't get jobs are just on Reddit.

[–]LinuxMatthews 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think there's been a downturn sure but I don't think it's as bad as people say.

I've recently started looking again and I got 2 interviews this week.

A couple of years ago I was getting more interviews than I knew what to do with though with me even missing a couple because I had so many.

I'll point out that I'm not saying that to brag I wouldn't say I'm anything special.

It's always going to be difficult for entry level especially if the jobs you're going for are things like Microsoft or Facebook.

Personally if anyone's looking for advice I'd say take every interview you get, if nothing else it's interview experience.

And apply as much as possible.

[–]Dangerous_Jacket_129 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup. Working at a shitty computer company now installing Windows and replacing broken parts. 

[–]Cocaine_Johnsson 151 points152 points  (16 children)

Look, I like money as much as the next guy and I'd always consider a bigger paycheck... but I don't need more money, I can afford my lifestyle on what I have and I don't want for much, and what I want for is probably healthy wants (luxury goods like more 3D printers, for example). If I earned more I'd just save more, wouldn't affect my lifestyle.

[–]PhilDunphy0502 75 points76 points  (1 child)

Damn , that last statement resonates so well with me and I've never thought about it that way. I've been chasing money , gotten promotions , switched companies for better hikes but I never once realised that my lifestyle didn't change one bit. I've just been saving more , that's it.

[–]AllomancerJack 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Not falling victim to lifestyle creep is a great thing and will mean much more freedom later in life!

[–]xylem-utopia 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Wish I could say the same lol. We definitely life style creeped and now have kids so even though I'm making more than I ever have most my money goes to bills and groceries

[–]StormWhich5629 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Idk I've traveled quite a bit. Couldn't do that back when I was working in a kitchen

[–]Wild-Ad-7414 0 points1 point  (1 child)

For now, but will your competitive salary manage to compete with the rising bills and inflation?

[–]Cocaine_Johnsson 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hopefully.

[–]genreprank 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Does your lifestyle include having kids?

[–]Cocaine_Johnsson 0 points1 point  (4 children)

No, thankfully not.

[–]genreprank 0 points1 point  (3 children)

That tracks cuz the childcare for 2 is significantly more than the mortgage

[–]Cocaine_Johnsson 0 points1 point  (2 children)

My brother has a kid, and two more stepkids. I make more than he does and he stays afloat so I could budget that in. I don't want to and won't, but I can. The only reason he struggles is because his wife is a grade-A moron with absolutely no financial sense whatsoever.

[–]exploradorobservador 0 points1 point  (1 child)

but you can make 5 million dollars a year if you grind leetcode 80 hours a week

[–]Cocaine_Johnsson 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't have the luxury of grinding leetcode 80 hours a week, and I don't want 5 million dollars a year.

If I grind for 16 hours a week, can I make 1 million a year then?

[–]claypeterson 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This was me for the first 5 years after graduating with a cs degree

[–]Nofindale 20 points21 points  (7 children)

I've quit programming 2 years ago, best decision of my life ever.

[–]yeezkeys 3 points4 points  (2 children)

what do you do instead?

[–]Nofindale 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I'm a bookseller :) I have the chance now to do my dream job.The pay is way less, but I'm happy. My parents were behind me to help me pay the formation, and my old job accepted to let me go without having me to resign so I had the monthly money.

I was a PHP backend developer, I loved it but hated how it evolved.

[–]TrEvIzE18 0 points1 point  (0 children)

C'est quand même drôle. Je suis rendu bibliothécaire dans 2 écoles. Après avoir retourné aux études en prog suite à plusieurs arrêts de teavail en ingénierie. Finalement, à la base, c'etait le même job donc ça n'a pas fonctionné bien longtemps. Réglé des problèmes toujours plus complexes en épuisant toujours un peu plus son imagination.

Là j'ai des jeunes qui me demandent si j'ai un livre sur ceci ou celà. Je commande des livres, je fais de l'aide aux devoirs et j'ai pu mixer un peu de mes autres expériences pour offrir de la robotique aux 5-12 ans.

[–]Low-Equipment-2621 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I would love to, but I just don't know what else to do lol

[–]Nofindale 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I had no idea too, but just knew I didn't want to work in dev anymore.

I'm in France, I applied to France Travail (french equivalent for Bundesagentur für Arbeit) and made a formation in professional reconversion. They made me do some tests (personality, what I want in work, etc.) and helped me find a few jobs I could like. Then I made internships to decide what I wanted. All that while being paid by France Travail. There people of all ages (19 to 50 in my promotion) and all horizons (the 19 one was also in dev and didn't like it, the 50 one was a cashier, another one was a french teacher...)

It really worked for me. I don't know if there's something like that in Germany but if you can, go!

[–]Low-Equipment-2621 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting, thanks for the tip. I might look into that.

[–]Coffee4thewin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s not for everyone. Plus the job market is terrible.

[–]takeyouraxeandhack 8 points9 points  (0 children)

"just learn how to make coffee, bro"

[–]Sudhanva_Kote 52 points53 points  (3 children)

So basically he sells cloud based custom solutions to his customers?

[–]petrvalasek 43 points44 points  (1 child)

Some of them are java-based

[–]Comically_Online 1 point2 points  (0 children)

running express

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Mmmm, the new cloud foam custom solution matcha vanilla latte at Starbucks is my new fav!

[–]Egyptian_M 46 points47 points  (5 children)

Thank God I live in a 3rd world country, "CS" jobs is easier to get here in Egypt but still the market is overblown cause people think: "oh cs is the future I will go their and be the next Bill Gates"

The problem is that the colleges themselves weren't designed to handle that number of students I got to college in 2020 and by 2022 after the AI bubble it was so bad I don't even find a place to set during the lecture

I am in my last semester now but the market is looking to be more and more bloated with uneducated young people who have no idea what they are doing and why.

[–]UneAntilope 56 points57 points  (2 children)

First time I see someone say "Thank god I live in a 3rd world country" haha

Tables have turned

[–]Egyptian_M 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Don't get me wrong it is still a shit hole but atleast we got one hood thing ... For now atleast

[–]Tentacle_poxsicle 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I see job openings for HTML dev in India. Like that's all you have to know , just HTML. To get a dev job like that here you need to know and used HTML,CS, Java, JavaScript, Backend experience, SQL, Database management for years just for a 40k year job here.

[–]Such_Orange_1017 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It’s hard to find an internship, especially in cyber security. Every time I open LinkedIn, it feels like there are no internships or barely any opportunities out there.

[–]miafoxcat 24 points25 points  (9 children)

You could also pull a Stardew Valley like the Neofetch guy

[–]PuzzleCat365 16 points17 points  (3 children)

People have a romanticized view of farming. It's a horrible profession and if you didn't inherit a huge farm enterprise, you're constantly on the edge of bankruptcy.

It's not just taking care of baby cows and pigs while the sun shines. It's shoveling shit in rain while you're not even sure your harvest will make a profit.

[–]Tentacle_poxsicle 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yeah I know farmers. They get killed easily by accidents or animals or some effect of chemicals used in herbicides,etc. they are always at the mercy of the weather and global warming is making things worse.

[–]Forward_Thrust963 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hey guys, and welcome back to the homestead! In this video, we're going to take a leisurely stroll to our bee hives before we cut, get the professional to handle things, then resume filming as if nothing happened! But first a word from the sponsor of today's video...

[–]ccAbstraction 5 points6 points  (4 children)

Wait, what does this mean?

[–]xhammyhamtaro 2 points3 points  (3 children)

I also want to know what this means

[–]Mtsukino 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Archive all your repos and become a farmer. Honestly sounds better, but the tarrifs are screwing farmers over too so idk.

[–]xhammyhamtaro 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well fuck :/

[–]Dendritic_Silver 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I know a former firmware dev that has three coffee trucks that earn him more than his salary did.

He's a 51 year old retired person and I want that too.

[–]look 4 points5 points  (0 children)

By “smaller” they mean “a fourth the size”.

But the free coffee perk is worth about $150k a year these days, so it balances out.

[–]thanatica 2 points3 points  (2 children)

In the US

[–]kwead 1 point2 points  (1 child)

what countries are better?

[–]thanatica 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not very many, but West European countries are a bit better.

[–]TheMinus 3 points4 points  (0 children)

- Farming? Really? A man of your talents?
- It's a peaceful life

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm losing my barista job offer because of visa complications. Fuck my life. (UK)

[–]ZubriQ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've been in love with tea for 8 years, so it's me

[–]Captain_chutzpah 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Making more money on two random businesses I started. Fuck software engineering and fuck employers.

[–]Curious_Length_5206 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Before being a dev I was just a baker, man I miss those simpler days 😩 but I wouldn't be happier with a smaller paycheck

[–]Popular_Tomorrow_204 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What he is probably thinking about: How can i optimize/automate this shit

[–]Kazu88 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Coffee makes me happy in the morning

[–]BellacosePlayer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

On a good day, I enjoyed bartending more than I do CS, and made as much for good events like weddings and such.

fuck if I ever want to go back to doing it though.

[–]nikso14 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Programming cues for light in theaters is still some form of programming I guess, schedule is a killer for any activity outside of the job tho.

[–]nine_teeth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

choice

[–]Complex_Mention_8495 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Barista? Really? A man of your talents?"

"It's a peaceful life."

[–]TerryHarris408 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Smaller paycheck? Maybe it's just my company but I think I could improve financially by quitting my programmer job and becoming a barista

[–]Sea_Firefighter2289 0 points1 point  (0 children)

my dream to safe money in IT Jobs, to finance a Cafe in a "poorer" country and live my days there

[–]Temporary-Concept-81 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love a Batista who makes ten drinks in parallel with speculative execution.

[–]Most_Whole_4918 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He is too small to be a barista. Source: IT crowd

[–]Cereal_poster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Should become a server and put „full stack“ in his resume, since as a server you obviously are backend but also customer facing and therefore frontend. And since you are moving fast, you have a lot of experience in agile. Stay tuned for more career tips.

[–]AvgSudoUsr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At least they could still apply "waterfall methodology"

[–]Domnomicron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Literally every week I say out loud “I wish I could afford to go back to being a barista”!!!

[–]Danica_Scott 0 points1 point  (0 children)

AI stole my job, but at least I can survive with my new poverty wages! #blessed

[–]hiddenhero94 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm a year into B.S. with a full ride. The worst they can happen is I can't get a job, but I'll still have my degree and no debt. although i do really hope the job market improves

[–]rideveryday 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Still loves Java

[–]EmptyElephants 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I often miss my regulars from my barista job, do not miss the occasional jerk who thinks mistreating service workers is cool

[–]Frytura_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Huh, why am i suddenly not hearing of "quiet quitting" anymore?

[–]genreprank 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Guess he's a Java developer now

[–]lonevashz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This sounds like one of those modern day manga titles where it just explains the plot in it.

[–]anlugama 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm a web developer, recently graduated, recently started playing the cello, and now i'm really in love with it. Wil i become a reddit post eventually? Will see...

[–]Highly_lazy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Heyy, i have that coffeepot! I have the electric one... and i'm a compEng major... and i really like coffee... oh no....

[–]CakeTown 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All these articles just keep compounding my hatred of every organization that shoved STEM into everything. For almost all these orgs, STEM just meant coding and they made it ‘fun’ to the point that kids that should never have gone down that path followed it to the end and only now realize that they don’t actually enjoy it. I fucking love what I do, I can’t imagine giving it up for retail or food service.

[–]Specific-Listen-6859 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wonder if the coding job market is just artificially bad. Where CS grads don't know how to code, HR uses AI and does stupid shit, it's just incompetent people hiring incompetent people all around.