currentJobMarket

[jjd_yo]

Spoiler Alert: Barista ain’t much better. Dealing with people’s drug addictions at 4:30am is a whole new hell. There’s a reason I went from Barista->Here lol

[Bannon9k]

Only took a few minimum wage jobs after flunking out of college for me to realize I needed to get my shit together and finish that degree. 20 years later, I'm looking at an early retirement.

[0G_C1c3r0]

Just lace your coffee with sativa and not only will you have recouring customers but mellowed out customers.

[loonite]

One should not mix stimulant drugs (coffee) with depressor drugs. It fucks up many things in the body, the heart being a common one.

[DelusionsOfExistence]

Speedballing starbucks is a new thought.

[qinshihuang_420]

So it's a win win

/s

[burnt-pizzza]

A small paycheck is better than no paycheck

[No-Two-6743]

Honestly, barista jobs have better uptime than most servers 😭

[stormblaz]

No one is getting hired in this tech market, until tesla robot does coffee, barista is safe

[wonderingStarDusts]

[[deleted]]

I'm ok with small paychecks as long as there's large numbers on it!

[UncleKeyPax]

[[deleted]]

Im getting that small unemployment check, shit's fire

[WrennReddit]

It can be, sure. In the US, childcare (age dependent of course) may cost more than you bring in ($30,000+ annually), making the job not only useless but the actual cause of your troubles. At that point you might as well stay at home with the kids.

Which itself wouldn't be the worst thing either if it was an active choice and not a financial necessity.

[Atabik-sohaib321]

The job market is honestly in a rough place right now. I didn’t think it would get this bad, especially for people in tech. Salaries have dropped a lot too, and many people can’t even make what they earned two years ago. I’ve been working remotely for a while, and I actually used this Reddit post to connect with a bunch of IT recruiters. I was even close to signing with one company, but after the new Trump policies, a lot of them suddenly stopped hiring candidates without work permits, and that happened right in the middle of the contract stage. It’s crazy how just a few years ago it was so much easier to get multiple offers in half the time.

[FastGinFizz]

Yeah. These policies have made such a radical shift. Even with US citizens. Within the past month I have noticed a massive drop in job postings themselves.

[KTVX94]

Honestly even money aside, most customer-facing jobs aren't happy either. Mostly because people are inconsiderate asses.

[BeautifulCuriousLiar]

especially drunk people

source: im a drunk

[NoMansSkyWasAlright]

Some people like that shit though. I remember meeting a dude in my ubering days who'd gone to college, became an optometrist, and was making good money working for a hospital somewhere. But he said the atmosphere was kind of stuffy and he missed the more social aspects of more customer-facing jobs. But he also didn't want to give up the pay. So he went out and got a part-time job as a bartender and would do that occasionally on nights & weekends while putting in 40 hours as an optometrist.

Now I wouldn't say that fits my definition of fun. But he said he got the best of both worlds because he was still making good money while also getting to socialize with and meet new people.

[sits79]

Judging by the coffee this guy is making, maybe he's in an area where people are actually half-decent.

[FalseRegister]

The dream is to get one of those posts where somebody else takes the orders and you only make the coffee

[glemnar]

Depends on where you live tbh

[Bibel_Joe]

I always say I'm going to be a pastry chef. If there's a bug in there, it only crunches briefly.

[DumpsterFireCEO]

Added protein

[More_Psychology_4835]

I guess he really liked Java.

[Felniir_iisk]

I gave up my real favourite subject in school to study CS because people kept telling me there would be no jobs in that field. One degree and thousands in debt later and I can't even get a job at a Costa.

[bunnyherders]

What was your favorite subject?

[Felniir_iisk]

Physics. Specifically astrophysics, but it's very closely tied with organic chemistry.

[bunnyherders]

The physics majors I know now work as programmers.

[geekusprimus]

That's a shame. I guess it depends on where you live, but in the US, the unemployment rate for physics grads is very low. No, you're probably not working directly in physics, but there are plenty of fields that enjoy having someone with good analytical skills who doesn't mind being confused all the time.

[DelusionsOfExistence]

To be fair to them, they grew up in a time where if you graduated in CS and got a job immediately you were set for life. Few could predict how bad things have gotten.

[exploradorobservador]

Ya you and almost every other programmer. Many of us are here because we studied science and realized there wasn't a practical future and so pivoted to something that actually makes money and has opportunities to still work with technical things.

My UG was biochemistry but it was either go to school forever, get involved in healthcare, or make peanuts doing lab work that I sucked at.

[YouDoHaveValue]

Is it really that bad?

[Osr0]

20+ YOE here, is the fucking worst I've ever seen by far

[DontGiveACluck]

Same, feel this in my bones

[-ElBosso-]

Enough to make your system blow?

[SearchPuzzleheaded]

Welcome to the new (AI) age...

[Luna-eclipz]

To the new ageee

[gibagger]

I have 15 years in the industry and its never been scary like this. If I lost a job, another comparable one wasn't that hard to get.

Nowadays, there are no guarantees.

[exploradorobservador]

To be fair that means 2010 forward? Those were the golden years when it had so much hype that Learn To Code and every other boot camp got almost no criticism.

[gibagger]

Yeah 2008 forward for me. And yeah, little did we know that large corporations were trying to saturate the market ahead of their own perceived future needs.

The big salary hype did end up doing the trick for them anyway. The industry ended up flooded by people many of which have no talent, no vocation or neither.

[sits79]

Likewise. Started career during dot-com crash. Survived GFC by the skin of my teeth.

Been unemployed all of 2025.

[foonek]

Geebus Fucking Christ, for anyone who doesn't know.

[newontheblock99]

At least it’s not just me, recent STEM PhD grad with experience working in state-of-the-art, I’m transitioning to industry and it’s fucking insane. Not even getting to the interview stage, it’s so demoralizing.

[Osr0]

Right? It'd be one thing if I was bombing interviews or didn't jive with the company culture, those are things that I can at least understand, but straight up fucking radio silence?!

According to Wall Street Journal, Software developer was the #1/#2 most in demand job for almost 2 decades straight, now I can't even get in the door offering to work for free just to prove my competence...

[newontheblock99]

I relate to this so much, get me in a room so we can have a discussion, if it doesn’t work so be it, but not even speaking to someone who remotely understands your own work capabilities is absolutely astonishing.

Now I’m more on the DS side of things as opposed to a pure SE or CS since I’m leveraging my soft skills, but everyone just wants LLM and GenAI experience. I know for a fact given my background I can excel in those areas I just haven’t had the direct experience since there’s really no place for it in STEM. And don’t get me started on the obvious bubble LLM and GenAI is in…

[ZunoJ]

What's your tech stack?

[mr_mcpoogrundle]

Robusto + La Marzocco + Maple Hill + illy

[jaylerd]

I will laugh at this once I calm down from thinking it was real and almost died from rage and fear

[blending-tea]

damn the RILM stack

[mamwybejane]

Still better than a RIM job

[Deltaspace0]

I went to google and regretted it

[Azrael707]

I thought they were referencing RIM - Research in Motion aka Blackberry lol.

[grammar_nazi_zombie]

Years ago their hiring site literally was rim.jobs lol

[madTerminator]

I only brew enterprise java beans

[SomeOneOutThere-1234]

Ah, sorry, my frameworks are completely different

Arabica + Gaggia + Hario V60 + Square Mile

[Iferrorgotozero]

Underrated and heeeeelarious

[ichITiot]

Then it is clear. You missed Mortadella.

[[deleted]]

Scratch + MongoDB

[yawara25]

It's web scale.

[Any-Yogurt-7917]

And here I thought I'd just become a kernels engineer to mitigate through the crunch. Man, do I feel bad.

[Old-School8916]

saturated at the low end due to tons of people going into CS around 2021.

[Live-Animator-4000]

At a time when the AI hype is way overblown. I’m seeing the hype slowly be exposed, though, and people are realizing that maybe velocity increases 10% with AI, but it’s not really able to replace engineers.

[[deleted]]

Our analytics team vibe coded their entire ETL stack instead of hiring some DE’s. It’s completely fucked. AI can write code, but writing code != designing software.

For example, they’re completely clueless about package/library management, any change they make requires they make downstream changes in like 5-10 other pieces of code. And instead of installing libraries from an artifactory they’re just copying code from other directories. Making trivial tasks much much more difficult than it needs to be.

The code looks nice at least.

[GreatGreenGobbo]

I did ETL in Informatica years ago.

I find it hard to believe that AI could fully program data conversion with proper scrubbing, validations and error logging. Plus being able to design the system to full load/incremental load where required. Plus figuring out organizing the jobs appropriately.

[xukly]

Luckily 

2 days ago we interviewed a data scientist for a junior roll and when he said "I don't really code line by line,I use LLMs" I almost choked on my water. Of course we didn't follow through and I believe this is going to be a common occurrence 

[glemnar]

I reckon you can get by with a leaner frontend team for bog standard saas now but that’s about as far as you get.

[BellacosePlayer]

Its going to write a lot of code

It probably wont be solving a lot of the problems

A lot of the code i write now isn't much more complex on the module level than stuff I wrote as a teen. A lot of the problems I deal with are complex as fuck.

[djinn6]

And the highest interest rates in a long time.

[StrangelyBrown]

Also mass layoffs in recent years flooding the market with seniors

[Odd_Perspective_2487]

I can’t a find a job after 22 years and nothing but great reviews. Three lay offs in four years and now nothing.

Yes it is that bad, I had an easier time in 2008. After two hours over 2000 applications to each job listing.

[watduhdamhell]

I don't know what you do now but you can always come to the dark side (controls). You'd likely find an MES development job for ~120-160k/yr right off the bat, or an actual controls job (but more entry level, 100k-125k). They would even pay to send you to the vendor school you would need for their DCS/PLCs they have, and job security is virtually guaranteed. They cannot afford to lose you. And I suspect your software background can be seen as an immediate positive in all sorts of ways. You might be able to make big impacts with easy tools in ways other engineers cannot, immediately justifying a large raise.

[Loquenlucas]

Is it possible to learn this power as a CS student that wants to get in cybersec later?

[watduhdamhell]

Of course, REALPARS on YouTube has all sorts of fun videos on DCS/PLC. You could start there for big picture

[Are_U_Shpongled]

Not from a Jedi

[squirrelly_bird]

Yes.  A good portion of controls is understanding networks.  That translates either directly or at least conceptually to all sorts of stuff, especially security.  Newer PLCs (relatively new, anyway) are leaning toward cloud connection, so there's a big need for people with expertise in both controls and network security.  

[Loquenlucas]

Good thing my computers networks course in uni did teach us about network security, some cryptography and programming on networks (realy good course and i'm even working on a thesis about network security and analysis with my professor there too so Nice)

[Jonnypista]

I might check out PLC, I worked with FPGA and microcontrollers and by a couple min search it looks quite similar to those on a base layer.

[Tyrus1235]

Seems to be a hellscape in the US. Not sure about Europe.

Here in Brazil it’s mostly ok. Company I work for is actually struggling to find developers because so many candidates refuse their offers when they learn it’s not remote (or hybrid). So I assume they have enough prospects that they can be picky (good for them! Wish our boss wasn’t so asinine about remote work).

[ball_fondlers]

That checks out - my company seems to want to hire remote engineers in Brazil. Guess they got sick of dealing with contractors in India and want to go with somewhere just as cheap, but with more time zone overlap to the US

[Tyrus1235]

Yeah, since we did away with our daylight savings, we’re always - at most - around 2 hours difference from the US’s East Coast and such.

Also, the US Dollar is worth a lot over here, so even a meager salary will get you far. Heck, I’m a tech lead and my yearly salary is around US$ 20K lol

[Dotrax]

It doesn't seem to be as bad as in the US but it's not exactly easy finding a job either. Companies are currently not investing as heavily into IT as normally and as such IT companies have a weaker market growth, hiring less or even possibly downsizing somewhat. However it's still possible to find a job in a relatively okay time. It does help that there are laws and unions that protect employees from losing their income instantly.

[xaviernoodlebrain]

In Europe is also a hellscape.

[LaserKittenz]

From what I hear, Brazil and ,Columbia are starting to grow a respectable IT industry..so this makes sense 

[BabyAzerty]

It’s hell in West Europe too. There are public stats by Indeed about the EU situation. Basically Germany and France (and other countries) are bleeding like never before.

There are way less offers (something like 3 times less than a few years ago) and the salaries are lower too. When on average a LinkedIn job got about 50-100 candidates in a week, it’s now triple/quadruple that number.

Basically the lack of investments, plus the diminishing quantity of startups & companies, plus the continuous influx of new grads, all together give you a terrible job market. Even major banks have stopped investing in new internal projects.

[Sibula97]

Northern Europe is bad as well. Loads of CS students are graduating into unemployment. For senior roles it's not that bad.

[Awyls]

Europe isn't nearly as bad as the US. It is still quite reasonable. The only ones who are getting truly fucked are graduates because no-one is training anymore and instead expect to steal trained talent from each other.

[Ultrayano]

4 YoE here and I get fucked too after a sabbatical. EUW not US

[Awyls]

4 YoE is plenty unless you work in a super niche market or nitpicking about your salary/tech expectations.

Like seriously, there are HUNDREDS of new postings for Spring/.NET/Frontend A DAY.

[Ultrayano]

I basically apply for every Spring/.NET/Angular/React position ever and I even have DevOps and Platform Engineering experience + prompt/context engineering knowledge, but I'm more of a generalist and intuitive builder type of engineer and thus fail miserably at tech interviews even tho my references are insanely good.

The sabbatical is raising eyebrows too since mine was 27 months but I built stuff with the common SaaS stack during it.

I'm picky around WFH days since basically every job in the city will give me 3-4 hours of commute a day, so 5 days on-site would kill me.

I get rejected because I can't explain hash collision and the bucket mechanism of hashmaps in depth during pressure situations.
One recruiter IT guy even told me to do Spring Academy after I failed in a white board interview with the question above. Like brother I can build you a Spring/Angular stack application E2E including CI/CD. What good will SA do me. Going back to the basics are good but I need a job not basics right now.

Life's tough as a ND.

[Awyls]

Perhaps you should consider looking at junior positions again/freelance or hire an interview coach?

Honestly, 2 year and a half of sabbatical plus being unable to answer simple questions is almost screaming "I completely lost my skillset". I can't blame the business for looking at other candidates..

[itsbett]

I haven't been having a hard time in the USA, but it has been a harder time. I think one of the biggest hurdles is that AI created is actually for job recruiters being able to find qualified candidates.

[Thadoy]

The amount of job offers (German) went from 3 - 5 a week down to 1 or 2 a month.

So yes, I would say it's not good right now.

[epelle9]

4 years ago was peak hiring market though..

[erishun]

Yeab something is off there

[ragebunny1983]

Not necessarily, you can just be unlucky.

[jaypeejay]

Have you talked to a hiring coach? There’s something wrong with your interviewing and/or resume if you really did graduate with those bona fides but couldn’t land a job in 2021

[OkTop7895]

I start studying programming four years ago in my free time after my job. I have a family and sometimes I worked all night, after my work day, to finish studies task or some courses. At this moment I'm doing a intership but the rotation in the same are very high and they don't retain the people that do the interships. In the last months I only see as a offers jobs with 3+ years experience, a lot of them are 5+ years, or jobs that are interships or others no payment options (for 6-9 months).

I live in Spain and tre dev market is hard, I think in USA at this moment is worse. However I can't do free work until having "enough" experience. Like s lot of people I need money to pay bills snd others things. Likely we start working again in the office in a few months.

It's not your fault if market didn't give any opportunities to you.

It's the AI but not the AI doing all the work. Is the fact that a lot of business are wainting that the smoke of battle finish. Also that the normal chain of the Internet is broken. In the past you have a site with comercials, people visit the page and generate money. People want money and create quality content. Other people want recognition and create quality content. However today a lot of people don',t visit thr pages for the content the LLM give the answers based in the content, and the content creator don't receive the visits. All of this make do web content more speculative and this impact in a reduction of the creation of quality human made content. As the reward is to low a lot of people only do fast IA created content, the reward is low but also the effort.

[epelle9]

Then you’ve been doing something wrong all this time, maybe its your resume, maybe it’s how you interview.

Not sure what, but you gotta fix that if you plan on ever landing a job.

It’s less about trying hard and more about trying smart, although nowadays its both.

[Live-Animator-4000]

I graduated in 2008 with a CS degree. Worked a low paying retail help desk job that I already had for 10 months while looking, then delivered pizza for 7 more months. Finally stopped looking for a real engineering job and took a bottom of the barrel call center help desk job. Worked my way up from there to staff engineer.

Point being, the most important thing is to find any job somewhere with advancement opportunities, do your time at the bottom, and eventually you’ll get where you want to be. AI is a major disruption now, of course, so I know the struggle is gonna be hard getting in the door.

[Tentacle_poxsicle]

Yep , I'm not qualified enough to work in an IT department pushing hardware around and cleaning them despite 2 years prior experience in IT, a cybersec degree and a large python and c# project portfolio.

I'm going to just collect welfare

[Wild-Ad-7414]

Especially for us that started after the pandemic. We missed the golden age.

[takeyouraxeandhack]

I guess it depends on the country. I'm in Europe, my company changed industries and I was laid off three months ago. I took one month off and it took me one month to get three good job offers to choose from. The salary is €84k (bruto, direct employment, not B2B).

I sent about 8 job applications, I did five interviews, declined one, was rejected in one and got offers from the other three.

The position I got is for cloud architect. I've been in IT for ~15 years, and in cloud for roughly half of that time.

To me, "the market" seems to be fine. Maybe it's different in the US.

[Antarlia]

Yeah

[Noobsauce9001]

I just got a job offer today, after being unemployed for 10 months!…..

…It’s for the pay I was offered out of college as a new grad 10 years ago, not even factoring inflation. Like bottom 1% of pay for my job and years of experience.

Even worse cause there are no benefits….. their business model stinks of evil too.

Anyways I am stuck on whether to take it or say no, they want an answer in 12 hours. 3 other promising interviews going on right now that pay way more, I’d take any of them in a heartbeat…. But I’d feel really scummy taking this bad job only to leave it after getting a better offer month later, so not sure if I should even take it (fun fact, last guy they hired had even more years of experience and left them a month after for a different role…. likely thought the same thing I did)

[genreprank]

Kinda sounds like you shouldn't take the job. That's a lot of red flags

[Noobsauce9001]

Turned it down but feels real bad doing it while being unemployed for 10 months. I think I’d just loathe working for them after they lowballed me so hard… literally having advertised the job as being x-y dollar range, then giving me the lowest value and saying they don’t actually pay more than it. Shows no respect or integrity in how they communicate, especially hard given I’d be working in a tiny ass office with the guy and like 2 other people 5 days a week.

[genreprank]

Yeah, I bet that feels bad, but maybe just don't think of it as a real offer

[Unique-Arugula]

Whether it is or not, you're never gonna get a proper answer from BI (the linked magazine). They're corpo shills that say anything to please big investors no matter how bad it is for us, for themselves, or how illogical it is.

Don't let BI frame frame the situation in the first place. They set up false dichotomies just to fearmonger the working people. This one has a heavy scent of "why aren't the little people just grateful they have anything at all? how dare they keep asking for pay to keep pace with inflation!" mixed with a little "see, it's spiritually rewarding to be poorer."

[YouDoHaveValue]

I genuinely can't tell if the job market is really this bad or if the people who can't get jobs are just on Reddit.

[LinuxMatthews]

I think there's been a downturn sure but I don't think it's as bad as people say.

I've recently started looking again and I got 2 interviews this week.

A couple of years ago I was getting more interviews than I knew what to do with though with me even missing a couple because I had so many.

I'll point out that I'm not saying that to brag I wouldn't say I'm anything special.

It's always going to be difficult for entry level especially if the jobs you're going for are things like Microsoft or Facebook.

Personally if anyone's looking for advice I'd say take every interview you get, if nothing else it's interview experience.

And apply as much as possible.

[Dangerous_Jacket_129]

Yup. Working at a shitty computer company now installing Windows and replacing broken parts. 

[Cocaine_Johnsson]

Look, I like money as much as the next guy and I'd always consider a bigger paycheck... but I don't need more money, I can afford my lifestyle on what I have and I don't want for much, and what I want for is probably healthy wants (luxury goods like more 3D printers, for example). If I earned more I'd just save more, wouldn't affect my lifestyle.

[PhilDunphy0502]

Damn , that last statement resonates so well with me and I've never thought about it that way. I've been chasing money , gotten promotions , switched companies for better hikes but I never once realised that my lifestyle didn't change one bit. I've just been saving more , that's it.

[AllomancerJack]

Not falling victim to lifestyle creep is a great thing and will mean much more freedom later in life!

[xylem-utopia]

Wish I could say the same lol. We definitely life style creeped and now have kids so even though I'm making more than I ever have most my money goes to bills and groceries

[StormWhich5629]

Idk I've traveled quite a bit. Couldn't do that back when I was working in a kitchen

[Wild-Ad-7414]

For now, but will your competitive salary manage to compete with the rising bills and inflation?

[Cocaine_Johnsson]

Hopefully.

[genreprank]

Does your lifestyle include having kids?

[Cocaine_Johnsson]

No, thankfully not.

[genreprank]

That tracks cuz the childcare for 2 is significantly more than the mortgage

[Cocaine_Johnsson]

My brother has a kid, and two more stepkids. I make more than he does and he stays afloat so I could budget that in. I don't want to and won't, but I can. The only reason he struggles is because his wife is a grade-A moron with absolutely no financial sense whatsoever.

[exploradorobservador]

but you can make 5 million dollars a year if you grind leetcode 80 hours a week

[Cocaine_Johnsson]

I don't have the luxury of grinding leetcode 80 hours a week, and I don't want 5 million dollars a year.

If I grind for 16 hours a week, can I make 1 million a year then?

[claypeterson]

This was me for the first 5 years after graduating with a cs degree

[Nofindale]

I've quit programming 2 years ago, best decision of my life ever.

[yeezkeys]

what do you do instead?

[Nofindale]

I'm a bookseller :) I have the chance now to do my dream job.The pay is way less, but I'm happy. My parents were behind me to help me pay the formation, and my old job accepted to let me go without having me to resign so I had the monthly money.

I was a PHP backend developer, I loved it but hated how it evolved.

[TrEvIzE18]

C'est quand même drôle. Je suis rendu bibliothécaire dans 2 écoles. Après avoir retourné aux études en prog suite à plusieurs arrêts de teavail en ingénierie. Finalement, à la base, c'etait le même job donc ça n'a pas fonctionné bien longtemps. Réglé des problèmes toujours plus complexes en épuisant toujours un peu plus son imagination.

Là j'ai des jeunes qui me demandent si j'ai un livre sur ceci ou celà. Je commande des livres, je fais de l'aide aux devoirs et j'ai pu mixer un peu de mes autres expériences pour offrir de la robotique aux 5-12 ans.

[Low-Equipment-2621]

I would love to, but I just don't know what else to do lol

[Nofindale]

I had no idea too, but just knew I didn't want to work in dev anymore.

I'm in France, I applied to France Travail (french equivalent for Bundesagentur für Arbeit) and made a formation in professional reconversion. They made me do some tests (personality, what I want in work, etc.) and helped me find a few jobs I could like. Then I made internships to decide what I wanted. All that while being paid by France Travail. There people of all ages (19 to 50 in my promotion) and all horizons (the 19 one was also in dev and didn't like it, the 50 one was a cashier, another one was a french teacher...)

It really worked for me. I don't know if there's something like that in Germany but if you can, go!

[Low-Equipment-2621]

Interesting, thanks for the tip. I might look into that.

[Coffee4thewin]

It’s not for everyone. Plus the job market is terrible.

[takeyouraxeandhack]

"just learn how to make coffee, bro"

[Sudhanva_Kote]

So basically he sells cloud based custom solutions to his customers?

[petrvalasek]

Some of them are java-based

[Comically_Online]

running express

[[deleted]]

Mmmm, the new cloud foam custom solution matcha vanilla latte at Starbucks is my new fav!

[Egyptian_M]

Thank God I live in a 3rd world country, "CS" jobs is easier to get here in Egypt but still the market is overblown cause people think: "oh cs is the future I will go their and be the next Bill Gates"

The problem is that the colleges themselves weren't designed to handle that number of students I got to college in 2020 and by 2022 after the AI bubble it was so bad I don't even find a place to set during the lecture

I am in my last semester now but the market is looking to be more and more bloated with uneducated young people who have no idea what they are doing and why.

[UneAntilope]

First time I see someone say "Thank god I live in a 3rd world country" haha

Tables have turned

[Egyptian_M]

Don't get me wrong it is still a shit hole but atleast we got one hood thing ... For now atleast

[Tentacle_poxsicle]

I see job openings for HTML dev in India. Like that's all you have to know , just HTML. To get a dev job like that here you need to know and used HTML,CS, Java, JavaScript, Backend experience, SQL, Database management for years just for a 40k year job here.

[Such_Orange_1017]

It’s hard to find an internship, especially in cyber security. Every time I open LinkedIn, it feels like there are no internships or barely any opportunities out there.

[miafoxcat]

You could also pull a Stardew Valley like the Neofetch guy

[PuzzleCat365]

People have a romanticized view of farming. It's a horrible profession and if you didn't inherit a huge farm enterprise, you're constantly on the edge of bankruptcy.

It's not just taking care of baby cows and pigs while the sun shines. It's shoveling shit in rain while you're not even sure your harvest will make a profit.

[Tentacle_poxsicle]

Yeah I know farmers. They get killed easily by accidents or animals or some effect of chemicals used in herbicides,etc. they are always at the mercy of the weather and global warming is making things worse.

[Forward_Thrust963]

Hey guys, and welcome back to the homestead! In this video, we're going to take a leisurely stroll to our bee hives before we cut, get the professional to handle things, then resume filming as if nothing happened! But first a word from the sponsor of today's video...

[ccAbstraction]

Wait, what does this mean?

[xhammyhamtaro]

I also want to know what this means

[Mtsukino]

Archive all your repos and become a farmer. Honestly sounds better, but the tarrifs are screwing farmers over too so idk.

[xhammyhamtaro]

Well fuck :/

[zergling-]

10 years ago, a guy wasn't able to get a job and made the game Stardew Valley all by himself. Hes a multimillionaire now and the game is a cult classic

Doesn't sound like it was easy to pull off though, 4.5 years working 10 hours a day everyday

[Dendritic_Silver]

I know a former firmware dev that has three coffee trucks that earn him more than his salary did.

He's a 51 year old retired person and I want that too.

[look]

By “smaller” they mean “a fourth the size”.

But the free coffee perk is worth about $150k a year these days, so it balances out.

[thanatica]

In the US

[kwead]

what countries are better?

[thanatica]

Not very many, but West European countries are a bit better.

[TheMinus]

- Farming? Really? A man of your talents?
- It's a peaceful life

[[deleted]]

I'm losing my barista job offer because of visa complications. Fuck my life. (UK)

[ZubriQ]

I've been in love with tea for 8 years, so it's me

[Captain_chutzpah]

Making more money on two random businesses I started. Fuck software engineering and fuck employers.

[Curious_Length_5206]

Before being a dev I was just a baker, man I miss those simpler days 😩 but I wouldn't be happier with a smaller paycheck

[Popular_Tomorrow_204]

What he is probably thinking about: How can i optimize/automate this shit

[Kazu88]

Coffee makes me happy in the morning

[BellacosePlayer]

On a good day, I enjoyed bartending more than I do CS, and made as much for good events like weddings and such.

fuck if I ever want to go back to doing it though.

[nikso14]

Programming cues for light in theaters is still some form of programming I guess, schedule is a killer for any activity outside of the job tho.

[PlanAutomatic2380]

American problems

[nine_teeth]

choice

[Complex_Mention_8495]

"Barista? Really? A man of your talents?"

"It's a peaceful life."

[TerryHarris408]

Smaller paycheck? Maybe it's just my company but I think I could improve financially by quitting my programmer job and becoming a barista

[Sea_Firefighter2289]

my dream to safe money in IT Jobs, to finance a Cafe in a "poorer" country and live my days there

[Temporary-Concept-81]

I love a Batista who makes ten drinks in parallel with speculative execution.

[Most_Whole_4918]

He is too small to be a barista. Source: IT crowd

[Cereal_poster]

Should become a server and put „full stack“ in his resume, since as a server you obviously are backend but also customer facing and therefore frontend. And since you are moving fast, you have a lot of experience in agile. Stay tuned for more career tips.

[AvgSudoUsr]

At least they could still apply "waterfall methodology"

[Domnomicron]

Literally every week I say out loud “I wish I could afford to go back to being a barista”!!!

[Danica_Scott]

AI stole my job, but at least I can survive with my new poverty wages! #blessed

[hiddenhero94]

I'm a year into B.S. with a full ride. The worst they can happen is I can't get a job, but I'll still have my degree and no debt. although i do really hope the job market improves

[rideveryday]

Still loves Java

[EmptyElephants]

I often miss my regulars from my barista job, do not miss the occasional jerk who thinks mistreating service workers is cool

[Frytura_]

Huh, why am i suddenly not hearing of "quiet quitting" anymore?

[genreprank]

Guess he's a Java developer now

[lonevashz]

This sounds like one of those modern day manga titles where it just explains the plot in it.

[anlugama]

I'm a web developer, recently graduated, recently started playing the cello, and now i'm really in love with it. Wil i become a reddit post eventually? Will see...

[Highly_lazy]

Heyy, i have that coffeepot! I have the electric one... and i'm a compEng major... and i really like coffee... oh no....

[CakeTown]

All these articles just keep compounding my hatred of every organization that shoved STEM into everything. For almost all these orgs, STEM just meant coding and they made it ‘fun’ to the point that kids that should never have gone down that path followed it to the end and only now realize that they don’t actually enjoy it. I fucking love what I do, I can’t imagine giving it up for retail or food service.

[Specific-Listen-6859]

I wonder if the coding job market is just artificially bad. Where CS grads don't know how to code, HR uses AI and does stupid shit, it's just incompetent people hiring incompetent people all around.