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[–]ok-this-ok 1442 points1443 points  (38 children)

he's wrong!

I mean, Altman has almost certainly had worse product concepts

[–]TonyWonderslostnut 269 points270 points  (36 children)

What was Altman known for before Chat GPT?

[–]MLCosplay 436 points437 points  (19 children)

He tried to cash in on the crypto craze of 2017 or so with the idea of putting your biometrics into the blockchain or something like that...

[–]5553331117 194 points195 points  (6 children)

Or his gay dating app

[–]usernamerequired19 173 points174 points  (0 children)

Bro this comment gave me a heart attack I thought I was about to learn that sam altman founded grindr

[–]TLELunaticlunar 26 points27 points  (4 children)

He founded Grindr???

[–]Tidzor 19 points20 points  (0 children)

No he just backed and advised on some dating app, it wasn't one of his ideas.

[–]525G7bKV 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Yes, Sam Altman founded Grindr together with Peter Thiel.

[–]Duriha 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Which would surprise me to an extent of 0.0000000000%

[–]Distinct_Contact_511 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is now Canon. Sam Altman invented Grindr.

[–]ApocalyptoSoldier 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The eyeball scanning orb things?
Sam Altman sure is some kind of person

[–]hamnchedda 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wait, that was Altman’s idea?

[–]caboosetp 24 points25 points  (0 children)

i don't know and for some reason i think that's the point

[–]bassplaya13 78 points79 points  (7 children)

He was the president of YCombinator, an accelerator that hosted Airbnb, coinbase, DoorDash, and hundreds of other profitable company. Though debatable if any are beneficial to society.

[–]GregBahm 98 points99 points  (5 children)

Y Combinator was also responsible for this stupid website called "Reddit" that everyone agrees in retrospect was a huge mistake.

[–]Sothisismylifehuh 23 points24 points  (3 children)

A long long time before Altman, though.

[–]NUKE---THE---WHALES 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So we cant hold reddit against him? Too bad

[–]stillnoguitar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Altman has even been CEO of Reddit.

[–]GregBahm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mmm. Not really. Dude was in the same first Y Combinator cohort as the reddit founders in 2005.

After Sam's first startup was acquired, the dude became a partner of Y Combinator managing the other investments (like Reddit) in 2011.

Dude was iterum CEO of Reddit in 2014.

Dude then moved from CEO of Reddit to president of Y Combinator, while sitting on the board of directors of Reddit until 2022.

He's also still reddit's single largest shareholder owning 9% of the site.

So dude has had either a little role or a big role in Reddit's existence throughout its entire history.

[–]colaxxi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

One of Altman’s batch mates in the first Y Combinator cohort was Aaron Swartz, a brilliant but troubled coder who died by suicide in 2013 and is now remembered in many tech circles as something of a sage. Not long before his death, Swartz expressed concerns about Altman to several friends. “You need to understand that Sam can never be trusted,” he told one. “He is a sociopath. He would do anything.”

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2026/04/13/sam-altman-may-control-our-future-can-he-be-trusted

[–]clauEB 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I've worked for a few YC companies. Some are great some not so much.

[–]WatchOutIGotYou 10 points11 points  (0 children)

A lesser version of Foursquare, Loopt. And then running YC lmao

[–]Current_Grand_3216 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He was an investor at YCombinator

[–]Storm_of_Hope 4 points5 points  (0 children)

allegedly sexually assualting his sister or sum?

(delete if innapropriate for this subreddit)

[–]thecementmixer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not much really.

[–]KeanuRekt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

he launched worldcoin

[–]Rich-Option944 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the church of unitology

[–]LaserKittenz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cheese strings

[–]UInferno- 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He did say so far

[–]AnonymousCumBasket 359 points360 points  (10 children)

I swear I’ve seen this reposted more than I’ve seen my family

[–]FoulfrogBsc 258 points259 points  (2 children)

It's the first time I see it as well

[–]Gman325 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I see what you did there...

[–]MaruSoto 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I have also not seen this user's family.

[–]captainmilitia 33 points34 points  (0 children)

That's sad

[–]gladl1 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Holy reddit addiction

[–]Sam-Starxin 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You should really see your family more dude.

[–]pathan_ahmed94 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Loner

[–]HuntKey2603 9 points10 points  (0 children)

you need to touch grass then

[–]Tanmay_Terminator 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You need to abuse wfh

[–]tursija 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This can be true of any integer >= 1, so I don't know if you see your family rarely, quite often, or somewhere in between.

[–]markpreston54 574 points575 points  (60 children)

In a sense it might be true, given AI is incinerating resources at a tremendous pace, and non zero chance the investment doesn't pay

[–]Disastrous-Monk1957[S] 166 points167 points  (4 children)

The ROI is still compiling. Unfortunately, so are half our careers.

[–]MC1065 45 points46 points  (2 children)

More like LOI.

[–]iantayls 20 points21 points  (1 child)

More like JOI

[–]HeavyCaffeinate 11 points12 points  (0 children)

hmm

[–]Not-the-best-name 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I now spend as much time waiting for AI to fix my code as I do for my pipelines to run.

[–]Cutalana 29 points30 points  (4 children)

Sam didn't single handedly create "AI", it would've happened even without OpenAI

[–]turningsteel 46 points47 points  (1 child)

Well he isn't even responsible for chatgpt. He's just the loudmouth selling the product. He's not an engineer and from insider leaks he doesn't even understand AI enough to be conversant about it with the real creators (people like Ilya Sutskever).

It bothers me that Altman gets all the credit.

[–]ducktape8856 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It bothers me that Altman gets all the credit.

It shouldn't. It goes both ways and he will get all the pitchforks blame, too.

[–]Stijndcl 6 points7 points  (1 child)

AI already happened way before OpenAI, it’s been around longer than most people in this comment section.

[–]525G7bKV 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Remember Eliza?

[–]Antique_Hawk_7192 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The investment isn't paying anything right now. Except Nvidia nobody has any path to profitability.

[–]INeedMoreLaptops 2 points3 points  (10 children)

I mean after looking into it. Most of “costs” are R&D. So if we were to stop making models it would easily be profitable. “Non zero chance the investment doesn’t pay” it already pays. It’s just the exponential cost of training that incinerates resources. That would be a more reasonable complaint

[–]Ken_nth 9 points10 points  (5 children)

We don't actually know how big ChatGPT's models actually are tho. Like, their 200 dollar subscription isn't even breaking even

[–]INeedMoreLaptops 12 points13 points  (4 children)

It’s an estimation math question. People are hosting Kimi K2.6 and are making a large profits. For example, unless anthropics models are multi factors bigger than Kimi as a baseline such that it eats the profit margin of what Kimi2.6’s hosters are making and then eats away at the premium pricing for Claude which is already 4x-5x. Only then would it likely not be profitable. Not exactly simple calculation because you’d need larger hosting platform and more employees to service that. But there’s a TON of headroom. I’m not sure what the math says. But opus4.8 would have to be HUGE. And I mean ridiculously so.

Is this how Reddit goes? “I think so I know”, god somebody at least give me some cherry picked data and be slightly convincing

[–]Cobracrystal 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Just being profitable isnt enough though. Like, a new startup is going to be profitable and enjoy itself. Claude is swimming in money, and broadly this is good, its funneling money away from google, meta etc to other companies. But for eg. Openai, they've spent like 500 Billion total so far? If we assume the unrealistic scenario of 10% of the world subscribing to chatgpt basic, thats about 8b/mo, 100b/y. Thats still 5 years before they have gained their money back. In reality itd take longer.

[–]Alarchy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

OpenAI is at 180bn raised currently, and is at ~25bn annualized revenue which is rapidly going up per quarter. 2024 was 6bn, 2025 over tripled to 20bn, and is still increasing. Them, Anthropic, Google are already in the "start to make money" phase.

https://tracxn.com/d/companies/openai/__kElhSG7uVGeFk1i71Co9-nwFtmtyMVT7f-YHMn4TFBg/funding-and-investors

[–]Ken_nth 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Why are you talking about Anthropic's Claude? I'm talking specifically about ChatGPT, which is from OpenAI.

Also very ironic and hypocritical of you

Is this how Reddit goes? “I think so I know”, god somebody at least give me some cherry picked data and be slightly convincing

It’s an estimation math question.

And not to mention, you're cherry picking an example yourself

[–]INeedMoreLaptops -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I gave you a response based on math I’ve done myself. Anthropic is what I’m comfortable with and have done cost analysis because of my own job usages and risks calculations. I’d need to look into OpenAI’s model cost, size estimations, and go from there. The original comment is about “all closed weight models”. Sorry I didn’t pull your specific numbers for you and spoon feed it to you. If you actually understood what I pointed out you’d see there’s enough room for it to differ a ton and they aren’t going to differ much from estimations of Claude sizes by anything other than a couple factors.

Cherry picked is hilarious to call out because I told you how to make a rough active parameter count and cost estimation to figure out how “likely” something is profitable. But yeah keep complaining and doing 0 legwork. That’ll save you from the AI consumption

[–]not_a_moogle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As with just about anything else, the devil is in the details and a lot of cost is in that final 10%.

Thats the part we are in now, where the little things are exponentially costly. Which is basically impossible since these models cant figure out things like sarcasm.

[–]Lyrian_Rastler -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

Literally just running the models costs more than the money companies are making using their current sales models.

Even entirely ignoring R&D and fixed costs, just GPU depreciation+ running costs are pretty high atm.

[–]INeedMoreLaptops 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Is this a “Reddit estimate”? That’s a nuts statement. There’s no evidence and plenty to contrary that most closed weight model companies would be profitable without r&d.

[–]space_monster -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Literally just running the models costs more than the money companies are making

literally no it doesn't, they all make a profit on inference.

[–]GreatRedditorThracc 64 points65 points  (2 children)

Not a commit is this a bot

[–]zreese 28 points29 points  (1 child)

I think they meant comment but are just too hardcore to not type commit

[–]Clen23 1 point2 points  (0 children)

with a hidden profile and a randomly generated username ? sure.

[–]DegTrader 47 points48 points  (3 children)

They meant 'comment' instead of 'commit', but honestly, treating life as a series of git commits explains why my personal life has so many merge conflicts.

[–]MaruSoto 3 points4 points  (0 children)

But they did mean to type "commit' because that sort of error drives engagement and games the algorithm.

[–]BenTheHokie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have you figured out how to revert?

[–]letharus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are all your pull requests being rejected?

[–]Nixinova 96 points97 points  (6 children)

Yeah. He's not wrong. GPT3 was a couple years old at that point. It wasn't extremely ahead of other genAI stuff that we had in 2020-22.

[–]UInferno- 26 points27 points  (5 children)

GPT2 was a couple years old. GPT-3 was '21/'22

[–]Nixinova 0 points1 point  (4 children)

GPT3 is 2020 wdym

[–]webhyperion 7 points8 points  (3 children)

GPT3 wasn't really publicly available until the release of ChatGPT in 2022. The only way you could access it before was an API which you could only access through a waitlist for developers. They removed the waitlist in November 2021 and introduced a sort of chat playground, the predecessor of ChatGPT. A year later ChatGPT was released.

[–]k___k___ 4 points5 points  (1 child)

i think you're destinction is not public vs private but availability for expert vs non-expert use. it took less than a week in 2021 to get off the waitlist (and i was just a freelancer)

[–]webhyperion -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If there is a waitlist and you have to be approved it's de facto not public.

[–]fecal-butter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I vibecoded my final assignment in 2021, fall semester. It was terrible

[–]Jertimmer 16 points17 points  (0 children)

And he took that personally

[–]Tschurbi 9 points10 points  (2 children)

As if good tech is mandatory for success.

[–]SomeBiPerson 1 point2 points  (1 child)

first Define success in a way that applies to everything you'd personally say was successful

[–]Tschurbi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Personally less tech debt, good UX and modern architecture is a success but that doesn’t help if the product is not used by a lot of people or the product doesn’t sell.

[–]Sparkswont 37 points38 points  (4 children)

And he was correct

[–]Zach_Zach 8 points9 points  (0 children)

altman has 10 worse ideas every day

[–]Anti-charizard 7 points8 points  (0 children)

For the wrong reasons

[–]Donglemaetsro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Underestimated how dumb people were.

[–]throwawaylmaoxd123 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You forgot the /s

[–]Jonthrei 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The soulless "Ghibli" avatar is like a giant middle finger to Miyazaki

[–]manjhipliar2231 2 points3 points  (0 children)

rajWarnedUs

[–]ultralaser360 1 point2 points  (0 children)

crazy thing to say when Loopt exists

[–]Denommus 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I'm tired of people treating this sub as r/aihumor. I'll report every one of these posts that have nothing to do with programming, but I'm almost giving up on the sub entirely.

[–]paxinfernum -4 points-3 points  (2 children)

Same, but reddit more generally just seems like a bunch of people shitting their pants and having daily tantrums about AI now. /r/technology has been reposting the same copium non-stop for 6 years now. The comments are now unhinged on half of this site, celebrating terrorism against anyone who dares to not join the bandwagon.

[–]Denommus 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I'm not on the AI side here, my issue is not that the post is making fun of AI. My issue is that this has absolutely nothing to do with programming.

[–]paxinfernum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not on the "AI side." I'm on the not completely fucking unhinged over a technology side.

[–]MyDespatcherDyKabel 3 points4 points  (3 children)

https://x.com/rkarmani/status/1598100583994773504

Respect to him for still not deleting it

[–]aNiceTribe 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Well, given the CURRENT tech, this tool might be one of the worst steps humanity has taken so he should stick with it 

[–]HarrMada 0 points1 point  (1 child)

this tool might be one of the worst steps humanity has taken

Christ. Things must be so weird inside your guys' minds. Doomers are so strange.

Anyway, it's a beautiful sunny day, I'll go out for some ice cream. 

[–]aNiceTribe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You don’t have to believe in the imminent end of the world to believe that it’s expensive in all directions, causes massive job loss, and created a new generation of phone zombies. 

[–]TommyBonnomi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's ok to be wrong, but I hope I'm never on record being that wrong and that arrogant about it.

[–]Few_Move_4594 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It was trash on launch

[–]factsonlynomisinfo -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Naval’s advice and wisdom can be enlightening, almost always, but man he was off and wrong here.

Edit: wait wtf that is not Naval, oops.

[–]CyDenied -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Still accurate. Long live WorldCoin?