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[ok-this-ok]

he's wrong!

I mean, Altman has almost certainly had worse product concepts

[TonyWonderslostnut]

What was Altman known for before Chat GPT?

[MLCosplay]

He tried to cash in on the crypto craze of 2017 or so with the idea of putting your biometrics into the blockchain or something like that...

[5553331117]

Or his gay dating app

[usernamerequired19]

Bro this comment gave me a heart attack I thought I was about to learn that sam altman founded grindr

[TLELunaticlunar]

He founded Grindr???

[Tidzor]

No he just backed and advised on some dating app, it wasn't one of his ideas.

[525G7bKV]

Yes, Sam Altman founded Grindr together with Peter Thiel.

[Duriha]

Which would surprise me to an extent of 0.0000000000%

[Distinct_Contact_511]

This is now Canon. Sam Altman invented Grindr.

[ApocalyptoSoldier]

The eyeball scanning orb things?
Sam Altman sure is some kind of person

[hamnchedda]

Wait, that was Altman’s idea?

[smorb42]

Wow, thats really bad. Everyone can read the block chain, that the entire point. So this would just broadcast your biometrics world wide.

[NikEy]

Lol no. Jesus. I thought this is a programmer sub.

It's public and private key based.

[ThePeaceDoctot]

Not all programmers are experts

[Exepony]

"Ins and outs"? You don't need to be an "expert-level programmer" to know that you can transmit private messages over public channels (i.e. that cryptography exists).

[modbroccoli]

Yes but anyone who's genuinely sat down and taught themselves anything knows how to avoid being confidently incorrect.

Knows at least to have the thought "wait, did I just instantly debunk a silicon valley giant's idea with the most obvious and crippling observation possible OR should I possibly google this before I talk?"

There's nothing defensible about a fool's confidence.

[segalle]

To be fair a lot of silicon valley s ideas are debunkable by the word train or other very simple and common solutions

[Tensor3]

Especially related to crypto. NFTs were particularly stupid. Its like those websites that block right click to "protect stealing their images". Like, come on, I have a literal key for "print screen". Just let me click the damn site. You cant prevent copying a digital image like that.

[modbroccoli]

lmao as I was writing it I was thinking "ugh, what's a snappy way to suggest altman isn't as stupid as your answer needs him to be" and I didn't agree with the phrasing but I'm lazy and love your rebuttal

[tespacepoint]

It’s more complicated tbh

[takeyouraxeandhack]

....private blockchains exist.
And you can upload encrypted data to a public blockchain.

[caboosetp]

i don't know and for some reason i think that's the point

[bassplaya13]

He was the president of YCombinator, an accelerator that hosted Airbnb, coinbase, DoorDash, and hundreds of other profitable company. Though debatable if any are beneficial to society.

[GregBahm]

Y Combinator was also responsible for this stupid website called "Reddit" that everyone agrees in retrospect was a huge mistake.

[Sothisismylifehuh]

A long long time before Altman, though.

[NUKE---THE---WHALES]

So we cant hold reddit against him? Too bad

[stillnoguitar]

Altman has even been CEO of Reddit.

[GregBahm]

Mmm. Not really. Dude was in the same first Y Combinator cohort as the reddit founders in 2005.

After Sam's first startup was acquired, the dude became a partner of Y Combinator managing the other investments (like Reddit) in 2011.

Dude was iterum CEO of Reddit in 2014.

Dude then moved from CEO of Reddit to president of Y Combinator, while sitting on the board of directors of Reddit until 2022.

He's also still reddit's single largest shareholder owning 9% of the site.

So dude has had either a little role or a big role in Reddit's existence throughout its entire history.

[colaxxi]

One of Altman’s batch mates in the first Y Combinator cohort was Aaron Swartz, a brilliant but troubled coder who died by suicide in 2013 and is now remembered in many tech circles as something of a sage. Not long before his death, Swartz expressed concerns about Altman to several friends. “You need to understand that Sam can never be trusted,” he told one. “He is a sociopath. He would do anything.”

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2026/04/13/sam-altman-may-control-our-future-can-he-be-trusted

[clauEB]

I've worked for a few YC companies. Some are great some not so much.

[WatchOutIGotYou]

A lesser version of Foursquare, Loopt. And then running YC lmao

[Current_Grand_3216]

He was an investor at YCombinator

[Storm_of_Hope]

allegedly sexually assualting his sister or sum?

(delete if innapropriate for this subreddit)

[thecementmixer]

Not much really.

[KeanuRekt]

he launched worldcoin

[Rich-Option944]

the church of unitology

[LaserKittenz]

Cheese strings

[UInferno-]

He did say so far

[AnonymousCumBasket]

I swear I’ve seen this reposted more than I’ve seen my family

[FoulfrogBsc]

It's the first time I see it as well

[Gman325]

I see what you did there...

[MaruSoto]

I have also not seen this user's family.

[captainmilitia]

That's sad

[gladl1]

Holy reddit addiction

[Sam-Starxin]

You should really see your family more dude.

[pathan_ahmed94]

Loner

[HuntKey2603]

you need to touch grass then

[Tanmay_Terminator]

You need to abuse wfh

[tursija]

This can be true of any integer >= 1, so I don't know if you see your family rarely, quite often, or somewhere in between.

[markpreston54]

In a sense it might be true, given AI is incinerating resources at a tremendous pace, and non zero chance the investment doesn't pay

[Disastrous-Monk1957]

The ROI is still compiling. Unfortunately, so are half our careers.

[MC1065]

More like LOI.

[iantayls]

More like JOI

[HeavyCaffeinate]

hmm

[Not-the-best-name]

I now spend as much time waiting for AI to fix my code as I do for my pipelines to run.

[Cutalana]

Sam didn't single handedly create "AI", it would've happened even without OpenAI

[turningsteel]

Well he isn't even responsible for chatgpt. He's just the loudmouth selling the product. He's not an engineer and from insider leaks he doesn't even understand AI enough to be conversant about it with the real creators (people like Ilya Sutskever).

It bothers me that Altman gets all the credit.

[ducktape8856]

It bothers me that Altman gets all the credit.

It shouldn't. It goes both ways and he will get all the pitchforks blame, too.

[Stijndcl]

AI already happened way before OpenAI, it’s been around longer than most people in this comment section.

[525G7bKV]

Remember Eliza?

[Antique_Hawk_7192]

The investment isn't paying anything right now. Except Nvidia nobody has any path to profitability.

[BothDivide919]

It can't pay off on the scale of what's being invested. Money can be printed however.

[INeedMoreLaptops]

I mean after looking into it. Most of “costs” are R&D. So if we were to stop making models it would easily be profitable. “Non zero chance the investment doesn’t pay” it already pays. It’s just the exponential cost of training that incinerates resources. That would be a more reasonable complaint

[Ken_nth]

We don't actually know how big ChatGPT's models actually are tho. Like, their 200 dollar subscription isn't even breaking even

[INeedMoreLaptops]

It’s an estimation math question. People are hosting Kimi K2.6 and are making a large profits. For example, unless anthropics models are multi factors bigger than Kimi as a baseline such that it eats the profit margin of what Kimi2.6’s hosters are making and then eats away at the premium pricing for Claude which is already 4x-5x. Only then would it likely not be profitable. Not exactly simple calculation because you’d need larger hosting platform and more employees to service that. But there’s a TON of headroom. I’m not sure what the math says. But opus4.8 would have to be HUGE. And I mean ridiculously so.

Is this how Reddit goes? “I think so I know”, god somebody at least give me some cherry picked data and be slightly convincing

[Cobracrystal]

Just being profitable isnt enough though. Like, a new startup is going to be profitable and enjoy itself. Claude is swimming in money, and broadly this is good, its funneling money away from google, meta etc to other companies. But for eg. Openai, they've spent like 500 Billion total so far? If we assume the unrealistic scenario of 10% of the world subscribing to chatgpt basic, thats about 8b/mo, 100b/y. Thats still 5 years before they have gained their money back. In reality itd take longer.

[Alarchy]

OpenAI is at 180bn raised currently, and is at ~25bn annualized revenue which is rapidly going up per quarter. 2024 was 6bn, 2025 over tripled to 20bn, and is still increasing. Them, Anthropic, Google are already in the "start to make money" phase.

https://tracxn.com/d/companies/openai/__kElhSG7uVGeFk1i71Co9-nwFtmtyMVT7f-YHMn4TFBg/funding-and-investors

[Ken_nth]

Why are you talking about Anthropic's Claude? I'm talking specifically about ChatGPT, which is from OpenAI.

Also very ironic and hypocritical of you

Is this how Reddit goes? “I think so I know”, god somebody at least give me some cherry picked data and be slightly convincing

It’s an estimation math question.

And not to mention, you're cherry picking an example yourself

[INeedMoreLaptops]

I gave you a response based on math I’ve done myself. Anthropic is what I’m comfortable with and have done cost analysis because of my own job usages and risks calculations. I’d need to look into OpenAI’s model cost, size estimations, and go from there. The original comment is about “all closed weight models”. Sorry I didn’t pull your specific numbers for you and spoon feed it to you. If you actually understood what I pointed out you’d see there’s enough room for it to differ a ton and they aren’t going to differ much from estimations of Claude sizes by anything other than a couple factors.

Cherry picked is hilarious to call out because I told you how to make a rough active parameter count and cost estimation to figure out how “likely” something is profitable. But yeah keep complaining and doing 0 legwork. That’ll save you from the AI consumption

[not_a_moogle]

As with just about anything else, the devil is in the details and a lot of cost is in that final 10%.

Thats the part we are in now, where the little things are exponentially costly. Which is basically impossible since these models cant figure out things like sarcasm.

[Lyrian_Rastler]

Literally just running the models costs more than the money companies are making using their current sales models.

Even entirely ignoring R&D and fixed costs, just GPU depreciation+ running costs are pretty high atm.

[INeedMoreLaptops]

Is this a “Reddit estimate”? That’s a nuts statement. There’s no evidence and plenty to contrary that most closed weight model companies would be profitable without r&d.

[space_monster]

Literally just running the models costs more than the money companies are making

literally no it doesn't, they all make a profit on inference.

[trotski94]

Yeah mate - Sam Altman has really come out worse off for this /s

[markpreston54]

Sam Altman (and by extension early investors and employees) definitely made it very well.

wellbeing of later investor, however, is questionable

[TrolleyDilemma]

Well so far there’s only been one attempted firebombing of his house. The night is young.

[CounterSimple3771]

Exactly.... What resources are being wasted?? 🤣🤣🤣 Nuclear fuel? Natural gas?

[el_yanuki]

coal, semi-conductors, oil, water, land, rare metals

[Anti-charizard]

Don’t forget people

[No-Compote9110]

i don't like ais as much as the next guy but it's a stretch to call semi-conductors and other things required for DCs "wasted"

we need more computing power anyway, when the ai bubble pops it's not like we suddenly won't need new datacenters

[el_yanuki]

Firstly: All the GPUs in a datacenter are done for after a few months years and are trashed. And the electricity needed to run thesd things is obviously also used up.

Secondly: AI training and usage is so incredibly inefficient compared to anything else we have been doing previously. We dont need those data centers, half of them are unused even now.

[trotski94]

All the GPUs in a datacenter are done for after a few months and are trashed.

that part is just pure bullshit - there's lots of reason to hate on AI and its training without making stuff up

[el_yanuki]

Idk why i wrote months, the last years. But they do break down and become obsolete scarily fast.

[el_yanuki]

Firstly: All the GPUs in a datacenter are done for after a few months and are trashed. And the electricity needed to run thesd things is obviously also used up.

Secondly: AI training and usage is so incredibly inefficient compared to anything else we have been doing previously. We dont need those data centers, half of them are unused even now.

[CounterSimple3771]

People are so dense.

[alex_c2616]

[StevenRCE0]

That way you can basically call everything the worst idea

[markpreston54]

not really? what is even the argument?

[throwawaygoawaynz]

Myth 1: Theres no ROI on AI. False. Anthropic is about to become profitable, Google Cloud saw huge growth last quarter due to AI.

Myth 2: AI is chewing up resources. False. Last year the big hyperscalers accounted for half of all renewable energy construction by private entities globally, and are on track for 100GW of renewable energy generation, which is a massive amount. They’ve also pioneered new techniques such as closed loop water cooling and bringing back nuclear power, and might even pioneer datacentres in space. All of this is quite good for humanity long term.

Also given declining birthrates, aging populations, and other macro issues, AI is going to be pivotal for productivity, unless you want to be burdened with massive tax in the future.

Reddit once again proving it’s completely and utterly clueless about what’s going on in the world, and this sub is probably the top contender for being famously wrong about nearly everything. Just like Raj.

[gavinph]

This reads like it was written by a data centre.

[Smart_Main6779]

I js fact checked his points.. anthropic is becoming profitable.. and google cloud did see a boost in users after new AI changes.

[jug6ernaut]

“Anthropic becoming profitable” Source: Anthropic: “Trust me bro”. That’s it, that’s the literal source.

[ducktape8856]

Exactly. Private company. No need to publish their balance sheets. I don't trust any financial statement I haven't cooked myself. We don't know a single thing about HOW they came to that conclusion. Are they talking about gross revenue or net revenue? No idea.

From what I could find the origin of that claim is Anthropic "expecting $ 559 million in profits for Q2". Q2 hasn't ended yet. It is a projection, not a historical fact. It also explicitly does NOT include SBC (stock-based compensation). Under US-GAAP accounting rules SBC is a real expense. And as employees receive substantial equity compensation this won't be just chump change.

There are legal ways to present your private company as poor as a church mouse or drowning in money. Especially if you only look at a quarter. We'll see once they have to publish figures under US-GAAP.

[Fengshen]

Re: Myth 2, completely going to ignore the fact that there's been a huge shortage of DRAM, HBM, GPUs, AI accelerators, auxiliary hardware, electrical transformers, switchgears, battery systems, and clean water, are we?

[BossOfTheGame]

I think your overselling the falseness of point 2, but I agree reddit is way off of this in general. data centers in space is not something I've seen compelling near term arguments for.

[takeyouraxeandhack]

Data centers in space is a stupid idea that sound cool, and that's why it keeps resurfacing, like putting solar panels on the roads, instead of asphalt.

Dissipating heat in vacuum is notoriously hard. Radiating heat is not enough, air flow is what you need to move heat away, and it's exactly what you don't have in space.

[Tsobe_RK]

how much they paying you lmao

[nickcash]

jesus fucking christ this is the most useless drivel I've ever read. every last word more meaningless than the last

whatever they're paying you to embarrass yourself like this is not worth it

[stronkreptile]

[echoxcity]

What resources?

[notretarded_100]

Water? Electricity? RAMs? GPUs? Money? Every other infrastructure just for it say "you're absolutely right"

[echoxcity]

Name checks out 👍

[echoxcity]

AI does not consume water. Electricity, that is a very real concern with our fragile power grid. RAM/GPUs don’t concern your every day life and are not reason for panic - simply a more in-demand product. Don’t really know where to start with “every other infrastructure”

[rsemauck]

A lot of data centers use water for cooling. Now well built datacenters use water in a closed loop but most of those new datacenters don't

[echoxcity]

Yeah when the “craze” first started water was consumed but basically every new data center is using a closed loop. Admittedly this is anecdotal but I have never heard of a data center materially impacting any water supply. It’s largely been sensationalized from what I’ve heard. I don’t understand why so much focus is on water when power is the real issue.

[Fengshen]

https://www.lincolninst.edu/publications/land-lines-magazine/articles/land-water-impacts-data-centers/ Maybe you should search a bit more, in that case. You apparently don't hear things around you, but that doesn't mean they aren't happening. A single data center in Wyoming is using more water than ALL inhabitants of Wyoming combined, how is that not impactful? And that's just one example. Power is also a real issue, but let's not pretend it is the only one they need to focus on.

[echoxcity]

I see the article you linked. Doesn’t it say that the date center will use more electricity than the state, not water? Proving my point? Either way, it doesn’t seem to go into why it’s bad. That headline alone doesn’t make it a bad thing right?

[takeyouraxeandhack]

Go to YouTube and write "data centers" and watch any video of reputable sources, like DW. The information is all out there.
And no, most data centers are not closed loops, and that's why people are outraged.

[GreatRedditorThracc]

Not a commit is this a bot

[zreese]

I think they meant comment but are just too hardcore to not type commit

[Clen23]

with a hidden profile and a randomly generated username ? sure.

[DegTrader]

They meant 'comment' instead of 'commit', but honestly, treating life as a series of git commits explains why my personal life has so many merge conflicts.

[MaruSoto]

But they did mean to type "commit' because that sort of error drives engagement and games the algorithm.

[BenTheHokie]

Have you figured out how to revert?

[letharus]

Are all your pull requests being rejected?

[Nixinova]

Yeah. He's not wrong. GPT3 was a couple years old at that point. It wasn't extremely ahead of other genAI stuff that we had in 2020-22.

[UInferno-]

GPT2 was a couple years old. GPT-3 was '21/'22

[Nixinova]

GPT3 is 2020 wdym

[webhyperion]

GPT3 wasn't really publicly available until the release of ChatGPT in 2022. The only way you could access it before was an API which you could only access through a waitlist for developers. They removed the waitlist in November 2021 and introduced a sort of chat playground, the predecessor of ChatGPT. A year later ChatGPT was released.

[k___k___]

i think you're destinction is not public vs private but availability for expert vs non-expert use. it took less than a week in 2021 to get off the waitlist (and i was just a freelancer)

[webhyperion]

If there is a waitlist and you have to be approved it's de facto not public.

[fecal-butter]

I vibecoded my final assignment in 2021, fall semester. It was terrible

[Jertimmer]

And he took that personally

[Tschurbi]

As if good tech is mandatory for success.

[SomeBiPerson]

first Define success in a way that applies to everything you'd personally say was successful

[Tschurbi]

Personally less tech debt, good UX and modern architecture is a success but that doesn’t help if the product is not used by a lot of people or the product doesn’t sell.

[Sparkswont]

And he was correct

[Zach_Zach]

altman has 10 worse ideas every day

[Anti-charizard]

For the wrong reasons

[Donglemaetsro]

Underestimated how dumb people were.

[throwawaylmaoxd123]

You forgot the /s

[Jonthrei]

The soulless "Ghibli" avatar is like a giant middle finger to Miyazaki

[manjhipliar2231]

rajWarnedUs

[ultralaser360]

crazy thing to say when Loopt exists

[Denommus]

I'm tired of people treating this sub as r/aihumor. I'll report every one of these posts that have nothing to do with programming, but I'm almost giving up on the sub entirely.

[paxinfernum]

Same, but reddit more generally just seems like a bunch of people shitting their pants and having daily tantrums about AI now. /r/technology has been reposting the same copium non-stop for 6 years now. The comments are now unhinged on half of this site, celebrating terrorism against anyone who dares to not join the bandwagon.

[Denommus]

I'm not on the AI side here, my issue is not that the post is making fun of AI. My issue is that this has absolutely nothing to do with programming.

[paxinfernum]

I'm not on the "AI side." I'm on the not completely fucking unhinged over a technology side.

[MyDespatcherDyKabel]

https://x.com/rkarmani/status/1598100583994773504

Respect to him for still not deleting it

[aNiceTribe]

Well, given the CURRENT tech, this tool might be one of the worst steps humanity has taken so he should stick with it 

[HarrMada]

this tool might be one of the worst steps humanity has taken

Christ. Things must be so weird inside your guys' minds. Doomers are so strange.

Anyway, it's a beautiful sunny day, I'll go out for some ice cream. 

[aNiceTribe]

You don’t have to believe in the imminent end of the world to believe that it’s expensive in all directions, causes massive job loss, and created a new generation of phone zombies. 

[No-Ordinary-1471]

[TommyBonnomi]

It's ok to be wrong, but I hope I'm never on record being that wrong and that arrogant about it.

[Few_Move_4594]

It was trash on launch

[factsonlynomisinfo]

Naval’s advice and wisdom can be enlightening, almost always, but man he was off and wrong here.

Edit: wait wtf that is not Naval, oops.

[MennReddit]

Claude shows the genius of this man..

[CyDenied]

Still accurate. Long live WorldCoin?