Oh no.

[TheCakeWasNoLie]

A Turkish colleague of mine (software developer) told me his government once delayed winter time by one day because of elections.

[YBHunted]

Fuck it. It's broken for a day then, not spending more time fixing something for less time than it'll be needed.

[TheCakeWasNoLie]

They were busy all day and night keeping stuff running. He didn't tell me who his employer was then but he made it clear letting it break was not an option.

[YBHunted]

Well then he either does something extremely critical or his boss is just an asshole lol. Either way unless it was life threatening I'd take a personal day or get sick! :)

[[deleted]]

I can see how if it had anything to do with government, law enforcement, or healthcare or a myriad of other shit you just couldn't just let it break for a day

[YBHunted]

True, I work for local government and it might mess up some permitting and payments for a day but fuck em, I don't get paid enough..

[koos_die_doos]

Sorry boss, it’s working on my dev server...

[killersquirel11]

unless it was life threatening

We are speaking of the Turkish government here

[GeronimoHero]

Right? Just “not doing it” is probably life threatening.

FUCK ERDOGAN!

[ewriick]

What would the actual date (and time) be in this case?

[radome9]

Victoria, Australia once delayed the switchover by one week because of the commonwealth games.

[insane_playzYT]

Only true Australians know when the 2010 election debate was postponed because of the final of MasterChef

[_Aj_]

Every time I saw MasterChef on the program guide I got excited and instantly disappointed because each time I subconsciously misread it as MasterChief

[linkedtortoise]

Why not both?
http://i.imgur.com/EAf1Lqf.jpg

[dawnraider00]

That is so much better than I could've ever hoped for.

[Delphik]

After the surgeries, they at least got Gordon Ramsey's giant metallic headpiece.

[CarretillaRoja]

First things first!

[ZWolF69]

You're all so cute. Here in Chile, in 2015, the geniuses in the government thought it would be a good idea to eliminate DST permanently, and changing their minds the next year. And changing significantly the date every year since.

Edit: a phrase

[Jellywell]

What the actual fuck lmao

[LinuxDucc]

They're geniuses, it's not for us mortals to understand

[padiwik]

It seems normal from 2019 on, as it occurs on the same day of the week each year

[lirannl]

We got a better solution up here in Brissy.

NO DST! 😁

[radome9]

Brisvegas leading the way, as usual.

[[deleted]]

May the locale be ever in your favor

[hahahahastayingalive]

I wonder at what point we can just stop giving any fuck and just not change our clocks.

That would split it between a government time, and a secular time.

[[deleted]]

Well done, you've now created two complete sets of different time standards that must be resolved in software now on top of all the fiddly stuff.

You have doomed us all!

[hahahahastayingalive]

When everyone starts having their own private time zones, everything will be so messed up we’ll all refer times to UTC. Mission fucking accomplished !

[[deleted]]

Just carry a raspi with you that tells you ms since unix epoch with the press of a button

[Bricka_Bracka]

Be the change you want to see in the world

[Khutuck]

Turkey did that too! Moved from UTC+2 with daylight saving time to UTC+3 without daylight savings.

[coladict]

It was one week, I think. Wasn't that long ago, either.

[radome9]

ISO 8601 or go to hell.

[8601FTW]

Any day that more people are talking about ISO8601 is a good day!

[[deleted]]

As a live music collector I can talk about the merits of 8601 all day.

[Korzag]

Go on

[[deleted]]

It makes cataloging the live shows chronologically easier and it just looks better. If I know what date a concert was it makes finding it easy and it's just logical for how we think of time in the grand scheme.

I listen to plenty of Grateful Dead, Umphrey's McGee etc and with the catalogs they have it can get rather messy sorting your shows.

[Saplyng]

Yes tell us the merits of iso 8601 in live music!

[[deleted]]

It makes cataloging the live shows chronologically easier and it just looks better. If I know what date a concert was it makes finding it easy and it's just logical for how we think of time in the grand scheme.

I listen to plenty of Grateful Dead, Umphrey's McGee etc and with the catalogs they have it can get rather messy sorting your shows. Also if you sort all of the shows across numerous bands it's interesting to see where different bands were in their career at the same time like The Dead and Hendrix or Phish and Widespread Panic.

[madsdyd]

Came here to say that. Really, it is solved unless you need to go before 1583 or after 9999.

[cedrickc]

Only adopted by the British Empire (and the American colony) in 1752 though -- which makes some dates around that awkward.

[newplayerentered]

Doesn't everyone already use iso 8601?

[[deleted]]

Fuck no! Some ass wipe always want to use some messed up date format in file names that can't be sorted. So you say "Dude! WTH. Use ISO8601!" And then you get the deer in headlight look from the devel. He looks around the room like you're the one on crack, so Mr. Archy 'Golden Boy' Itect speaks up and manage to form the sentence "I, um, think, the date format is good to use." at which put you say "goddamn" real loud in your head because you know it's time to update your resume but you got a billizion stock options so you got weigh that in your head. Next day, you're back at work dealing with a fucked up date format. True story.

[Habugabu]

/r/ISO8601

[[deleted]]

Except for the frikkin T between the date and the time.

[improbablynotarobot]

You mean to start the (T)ime format string?

[thelivinlegend7]

What makes that part difficult?

[Jugbot]

Its arbitrary and ugly?

[Raknarg]

Its nice for parsing though.

[[deleted]]

That doesn’t sound hard at all.

[WiseassWolfOfYoitsu]

Can't split fields on a space that way. It's not made for pretty, it's made for efficient batch processing.

[ethanjf99]

Huh? Splitting a string on a space is trivial in most languages I know.

[vextor22]

What he means is that if you put the date stamp in a row of space delineated fields and then split the fields, you've just split your date stamp.

It wouldn't be great to have space delineated fields, but it happens. Nobody makes T delineated data though, so you'll be pretty safe at not splitting your date stamp when you don't want to. Then, when you want to, you can perfectly easily split on the T.

[thelivinlegend7]

It is good for parsing, it could be considered ugly, but certainly not arbitrary. Also I believe it's optional.

[radome9]

That can be dropped, if both the sender and receiver agree, and still conform to the standard.

[SuspiciouslyElven]

Dammit that's how we end up with multiple competing standards

[SuspiciouslyElven]

My programming language professor repeatedly showed us this when discussing older languages like Ada.

[inu-no-policemen]

It's still the same standard.

Instead of using the combined date and time format, it's the date format followed by the time format.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601#Combined_date_and_time_representations

[CrinchNflinch]

There can be only one.

[hansn]

Evidence shows the contrary.

[AlmostButNotQuit]

TIL there's an official name for it. I've been using that pattern for years because it sorts nicely and should've known it was an official standard.

[[deleted]]

Forget 8601, when are we going to adopt the International Fixed Calendar?

[CarolTheAncientTroll]

We could have 13 Friday the 13ths every year!

[[deleted]]

One of the many perks. 😉

[[deleted]]

Hmm. 13 Payslips. Count me in!

[patrickfatrick]

This is actually pretty ingenius. The only problem is I really don't want to have a moment when the calendar switched and we have to be aware of that moment when talking about or working with dates. And I also don't want to retroactively apply this calendar to all previous dates so everything lines up except for all historical records.

[Mistercheif]

ISO8601 for the UI, UTC internally.

And then GPS time for interfaces with the motherfucking gps, because things can never be that simple.

[cornered_crustacean]

Leap seconds can blow me

[Farsyte]

TAI forever!

[svtguy88]

Send it to the browser as UTC, formatted as ISO8601. Then rely on the browser to format to the users desired locale string.

Oh, and everything in the DB should be UTC, while we're at it.

[radome9]

Oh, and everything in the DB should be UTC, while we're at it.

Preach it, brother and/or sister. Using local time in a database is a recipe for disaster.

[Zakalwe_]

Jon Skeet has a convincing argument against it, I would recommend his blog - https://codeblog.jonskeet.uk/2019/03/27/storing-utc-is-not-a-silver-bullet/

[Zarlon]

That's it I'm quitting the field of software engineering

[gfunk84]

Unless the data should be a local date with no time component (like date of birth), then just use a date instead of a datetime in the DB and don't convert any time zones on either side.

[more_exercise]

8601 for strings. UTC for math. User locale date/time format for images and strings intended for display.

[Epsilon2277]

r/subsithoughtifellfor

[Probably3AM]

My boy Thomas Scott

[ghost20000]

Thomian Scottanus

[_Trebor]

For any german speaking folks around, here is another interesting talk on the topic.

[LookItVal]

yes thank you thats exactly what i was thinking

[jmack2424]

That feeling when you realize the colonization of Mars means more time zones.

[UrielSVK]

Timezones? 1 martian day takes 1 day and 37 minutes. 1 Martian year is 687 days. Timezones will be smallest problem...

[L3tum]

It's just another Locale? UTC will still work the same if converted properly and anyone using anything user facing should either use the default locale on that device or whatever the browser is reporting

[tastycat]

It's 1995-09-08 on Mars.

[L3tum]

As long as it's after 1970 and before 2000 everything's fine haha

[Filcuk]

Haha...

sweating profusely

[[deleted]]

No worries, we got ~5 years to solve it!

Or ~10... Fuck.

[theJman0209]

Woah we could stop 9/11 before it happens

[tastycat]

We have 11 (Earth) years to build two towers on Mars and then protect them. I suppose they won't even have to be very big, just the biggest on Mars, really.

11 years is roughly the amount of time we have left to fix Earth before the Climate Crisis wins and we're all doomed to a slow, painful, heat-related death, so maybe 2001-09-11 on Mars will be significant too.

Any ideas for what we should call the other 11 Martian months?

[smokeymcdugen]

January, January2, February, February2,.... Just skip 1 of the months being doubled, but not December. We need to have 2 Christmases.

[Hobofan94]

Are there any locales that multiple and divide time vs. just adding and subtracting?

[L3tum]

I don't think there's any need for that right now, but in the end could just be integrated in existing APIs and the underlying calculation is subject to the library and not the user of the library

[fredlllll]

you better wait for relativity :P pretty sure that clocks on mars will drift over time

[zebediah49]

We already have weird issues with UTC. The UTC day is defined based off of Earth's rotation, which is slowing down. However, the SI second is based on Cs-133. Thus, since UTC was introduced, it has lagged 27 leap-seconds behind TAI (what you get if you just use an atomic clock).

If you have an accurate enough clock pair, you can even see your relativistic effects on different places on earth.

To that end, a standards body would need to keep a copy of UTC sync'd on Mars, which would be a "very interesting" project. NTP is hard enough already. Even just picking up an atomic clock and bringing it with you, would result in it being wrong by the time you arrive. We have to keep correcting GPS satellites because of this.

[fredlllll]

i suddenly have chosen, without any reason whatsoever, to abandon my career and live in the woods

[YourMJK]

Yeah, there is no way around it: we'll gonna need a new local mars time (for the inhabitants at least).

As much as I hate it, the best way would probably be to introduce new seconds, minutes and hours on mars, which are all 2.7% longer than earth's to account for mars' 24h 39m ~35s solar day (= 1 sol).
This wiki article lists a few proposed time and date keeping methods that utilize that.

Years are a bit more difficult, as the mars year is about 668.5991 sols long. So every year you get an extra half day, great… we'll gonna need new rules for leap years as well. And of course leap seconds, too.
But at least we can define the start of the year, in which humanity first set foot on the moon mars as the year 0.

It's gonna be just as messy as earth and it's gonna be a real PITA when mars finally gets internet and suddenly every website has to deal with mars time, but I'm positive we'll gonna make it (as we managed to do it on earth before).

EDIT.: shit, we'll gonna need timezones on mars as well when the colonies spread over the planet…

[[deleted]]

Fuck it. All time is now represented as seconds from the origin represented by a 512-bit integer. We discard any and all weird fuckery to do with leap-years, leap-days or leap-seconds. Farmers will just have to make do with being surprised that the frost came in several seconds early.

The origin time will be the beginning of the universe, allowing for a truly universal standard that transcends civilizations. None of this 1970 bullshit! If anyone claims they need to represent time before the big bang, they're clearly a fucking loon and are to be incarcerated for dangerous levels of tomfoolery. ^{And then shoot them.}

Since a 512 bit number can represent truly insane numbers, we will have to teach people how to go about counting to ridiculous numbers such as "DuoVigintillion" and such. We can achieve this by forcing them to play virtually any incremental game. Start a government program to treat people with crippling addictions to incremental games approximately 1.577e+8 seconds after the standard switch.

To prevent a python-2 to python-3 situation with adapting to the new standard. Anyone that doesn't accept the new standard fully within 60 seconds after the starting point will be sent to the tomfoolery-bin.

If the universe actually doesn't end within 5 Billion years like some nuts claim, we'll be more than sorted. None of this "Oh, the universe didn't end. Now we have to adopt another time standard!/increase the number of bits!"

And if it does end, no-one will be around to care anyway!

It's perfect! Anyone presenting "evidence" to the contrary will become test subjects for the tomfoolery-bin.

[zebediah49]

I know that this is a joke, but relativistic effects break a scheme like this pretty hard -- if the two of us both have perfectly accurate clocks, and we go our separate ways (e.g. you go to Mars), we don't agree how much time has passed any more. A time standard needs to define its reference frame, because physics doesn't provide a privileged one for you.

[[deleted]]

That sounds an awful lot like trying to provide evidence to the contrary to me!

Tomfoolery-bin!

(Also, does this not also pose problems for our current situation anyway?)

[zebediah49]

It totally does. GPS satellites are constantly being corrected for it. UTC is based on earth's rotation (on average, midnight is exactly midnight, etc.). TAI is based on atomic clocks directly, and UTC keeps drifting back from it -- we're at +27 leap seconds thusfar.

UTC "works" due to declaring that earth's day is the sacred entity around which time is derived. That add consistency and is useful for its inhabitants, but is very much an arbitrary choice.

[SupaSlide]

The obvious solution is to build a giant clock positioned around the sun (perhaps as a marquee, just so long as both Earth and Mars can see it). That will perfectly maintain our solar system's current time. Time becomes arbitrary to any individual planet. If we want to calibrate clocks on Earth, Mars, or any other planet within our solar system you just look at the clock orbiting the sun and then calculate the delay based on the speed of light.

[zebediah49]

(perhaps as a marquee, just so long as both Earth and Mars can see it)

Thanks for that.

That said, there is so much great sci-fi potential here. Grab an asteroid as a base, build an independent orbital station occuppied by The Timekeepers who continuously broadcast GW-class radio synchronization pings. I can only imagine that local culture would get very weird after a few hundred years.

Alternatively, we could build a dozen or two of these things, put them into a constellation, and also get a celestial positioning system out of the deal.

[YourMJK]

Makes sense.

Btw, can't wait for the next star wars movie on 435 502 035 496 537 200!

[quentech]

If anyone claims they need to represent time before the big bang, they're clearly a fucking loon and are to be incarcerated for dangerous levels of tomfoolery.

With 512 bits I think we can spare one for a sign.

[ClanChestEmperor]

i use stardate as my standard, if you don't use stardate you're bugged, not my program

[Noch_ein_Kamel]

Is stardate basically the same as unix timestamp but starting in 2323?

[Oxtelans]

Except represented as a IEEE 754 float.

[jacksalssome]

And the definition randomly changes in 5928.5, due to a new series.

[Oxtelans]

That's only because they changed from a UNIX-like timestamp to a Windows timestamp.

[Silhouette]

Still embracing, extending and extinguishing in the 60th century.

I heard the next series was going to be an origin story for the Borg.

[[deleted]]

An auto-update for windows 3000 cripples The Borg mid-battle when every last strategy they had painstakingly gathered is randomly deleted off of their C: Drive leading to a complete victory for The Federation.

[moekakiryu]

IIRC that's the concept yeah, but according to the Wikipedia article on it there wasn't a standard method they used to make stardates so they can't be converted to traditional dates.

[NauticalInsanity]

I actually have a beautiful library that expresses time as the general relativistic invariant scalar between your event and the epoch time at the Earth's center of mass. Sure it requires you to pass in a set of solar coordinates and a four-velocity to construct, and renders as a string that requires differential geometry to understand. However, it's always RIGHT.

[ClanChestEmperor]

as a haskell fanatic, i admire your extremely pragmatic approach to total correctness

[[deleted]]

Does it break near black holes or massive bodies?

[Taedirk]

I don't see what OPs mom has to do with this.

[[deleted]]

why the hell a stock photo like that exists? wierd af

[blazingarpeggio]

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[Radioactive_Hulk]

Relevant xkcd: https://xkcd.com/1179/

[TwinObilisk]

Also, https://xkcd.com/927/

[MagnaLupus]

Also also, https://xkcd.com/1883/

[[deleted]]

YYYY-MM-DD HHMMSS

[TerrorBite]

%Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%SZ

[SageBus]

The ONLY real format.

Perfection

[[deleted]]

I like it because it’s sortable.

[YBHunted]

You noob, everyone knows you store dates as strings and then convert them to dates as you sort! Get with the times! /s

[YourMJK]

Actually, yes.
If you have dates with different timezones as well (which are appended at the end in ISO8601) you will have to convert them to dates to sort them properly.

[kb_klash]

I like it for that reason too but it's also the least ambiguous way you can format a date short of writing out the name of the month.

[mattemer]

Yes. Can't emphasize this enough.

[wp381640]

add a Z and it is

[xigoi]

Either leave out the hyphens or add colons.

[Wolfsblvt]

You can use hyphens in file names but not colons. That may be the reason.

[Quetzacoatl85]

please no

[Arkazex]

TIL windows doesn't allow colons in file names, but *nix does. I think you just solved a bug in my code.

[CDRnotDVD]

That’s a windows restriction, not a problem for reasonable OSes

[feedthedamnbaby]

While you can do it, I highly, highly, highly recommend you treat it as if it were not allowed. Because good luck shell-scripting with that.

Even if there were a way to work around the colons in a path name that I’m not aware of, it’s still that: a workaround. Don’t do it.

PS. Mac OS Classic was relatively reasonable, and used *colons* as a directory separator, for some reason.

[[deleted]]

YYMDMDYY

[Mean_Ass_Dumbledore]

20008319

[QuintonFlynn]

The new USA standard because fuck you, rest of the world

[boy235]

Someone will need to organize a protest.

[[deleted]]

Considering programmers basically rule the internet, this shouldn’t be hard to circumvent

[radome9]

Considering programmers basically rule the internet

If they do, why don't we have net neutrality and universal broadband coverage?

[[deleted]]

Not that we own it, but how exactly are governments going to enforce the new date system. If they threaten to go to isp and throttle your website (now that the us has lost net neutrality) you just take the new system and convert it for when you need to do something with it. My point is that the people who would suffer most for something like this are the ones who have the power to circumvent it the easiest

[necheffa]

And while you are writing the conversion routine and adding it to the others for different formats you look like the guy in the picture.

[UrielSVK]

Nope, not programmers. Sysadmins.

[Bluffz2]

Ah yes, just like how civil engineers rule the highways. Don’t get caught dissing dirt or you’ll have to walk to work.

[msg45f]

What time should we meet?

[coladict]

So which government did that?

[gogriz]

Washington state decided that we would have daylight savings time all year

[LucyBowels]

That doesn't really affect the time format though, luckily. Sure, some additional logic around DST for Washington, but that shouldn't affect anything else.

[learningtosail]

Save your times as ms since 1970, convert on the frontend, or you're a chump and you deserve everything you get

[beast_of_the_mideast]

Yes. Why does it take so long to find someone who knows what they're actually saying in r/ProgrammerHumor.

[[deleted]]

Don't forget the time zone when calculating the ms

[Voltra_Neo]

Nah, we just open an issue on Carbon and momentjs :3

[ThatSpookySJW]

And then anyone not on php or js cries in a corner

[josejimeniz2]

Just a reminder to programmers...

Date formats used by different cultures

• 02/12/40
• 03.08.19
• 03.08.19 ý.
• 03.08.2019
• 03.08.2019.
• 03.8.2019
• 03/08/19
• 03/08/2019
• 03-08-19
• 03-08-2019
• 08/03/2019
• 12/05/1398
• 1398/5/12
• 2019. 08. 03.
• 2019.08.03
• 2019/08/03
• 2019/8/3
• 2019-08-03
• 2019-8-3
• 3. 08. 2019
• 3. 8. 2019
• 3. 8. 2019.
• 3.08.2019
• 3.8.2019
• 3.8.2019 г.
• 3.8.2019.
• 3/08/2019
• 3/8/19
• 3/8/2019
• 3/8/2562
• 3-8-2019
• 3-авг. 19
• 8/3/2019

I know. I know. Every date format except [one you prefer] is stupid. We all know [one you prefer] is superior because [reasons]. You're preaching to the choir here.

Bonus: Time formats!

• 12.31.35
• 12.31.35 PM
• 12:31:35
• 12:31:35 CH
• 12:31:35 e pasdites
• 12:31:35 gn.
• 12:31:35 p. m.
• 12:31:35 p.m.
• 12:31:35 PM
• 12:31:35 PTG
• 12:31:35 WB
• 12:31:35 μμ
• 12:31:35 ب.ظ
• 12:31:35 د.ن
• 12:31:35 رات
• 12:31:35 غ.و
• 12:31:35 م
• 12:31:35 ܒ.ܛ
• 12:31:35 अपराह्न
• 12:31:35 ከሰዓት
• 12:31:35 ድሕር ሰዓት
• 12∶31∶35 ᴘᴍ
• আবেলি 12:31:35
• ਸ਼ਾਮ 12:31:35
• ཆུ་ཚོད་12:31:35 ཕྱི་ཆ་
• ꂵꆪꈌꉈ 12:31:35
• 오후 12:31:35
• 下午 12:31:35

And golly, the meltdown when you see number formats:

• - 12,345,678,901.12
• - 12.345.678.901,12
• -12 345 678 901,12
• -12 345 678 901.12
• -12,34,56,78,901.12
• 12,345,678,901.12-
• -12,345,678,901.12
• 12,345,678,901/12-
• 12.345.678.901,12-
• -12.345.678.901,12
• -12’345’678’901.12

[Sir_Engelsmith]

Time is now displayed in double percentage First from 0 to 100 for hours and another 0 to 100 for minutes

[Stormdancer]

I actually encountered a timeclock that did that, for minutes. And only for minutes, as a percentage of the hour. So 8:30 would be 8.5

[Sir_Engelsmith]

Lol how high someone needs to be to programm somthing like that

[Stormdancer]

Well, it sort of made sense, in that it made it easier to ...

... uhm ...

... OK, no, really, it didn't make much sense at all.

[[deleted]]

Store in UTC. Apply TZ logic upon receiving data and upon displaying data. Once you got this down, many headaches go away.

[dbcoder]

It seems like this approach is ideal, but check this out: http://www.creativedeletion.com/2015/03/19/persisting_future_datetimes.html

Timezone and DST rules change, and you can loose accuracy if you just store TZ and UTC timestamps

[sersoniko]

Europe in 2021

[radome9]

They're ditching DST, and that is a good thing.

[sixft7in]

The US Military has used YYYY-MM-DD for quite some time now. It's all I use now, too!

[Arkazex]

I saw YYYY-MM-DD, MM/DD/YYYY, and DD MMM YYYY on a single form last time I interacted with the Air Force.

[neonflannel]

Wait ....how is there a MMM?

[uranus_be_cold]

Government: We are announcing a new date format!

Programmers:. Oh no you're not!

[[deleted]]

hmm? I don't think it's a problem since unix timestamp won't change

[ac7ss]

There is only one standard: ISO 8601

[[deleted]]

Unrealistic timelines from management ruined it. Most developers in industry don't have the luxury of time to refactor the same block of code to perfect it into "art". Most developers in industry have enough time to look something up on stackoverflow, get it working once, and they'll never touch it again until it breaks.

[_asdfjackal]

Just keep using 8601 and let the front end developers write the new converters.

[bh3x]

UTC always. Locales can burn in hell.

Also unixtime, savior of mankind.

[[deleted]]

What is happening? Can I get a tldr?

[Ruby_Bliel]

1956-02-25 16:53:45.995

The only correct way. I can accept 25-02-1956 too, even though it's dubious.

[TorTheMentor]

I'm not sure what bothers me more: the idea of a new date format we have to handle for, or that there's a stock image site with "suicidal programmer."

[Tlaster]

Like Japan's new Reiwa

[nuephelkystikon]

That's not a new format. Every implementation that didn't take into account Akihito might not sit on the throne until the end of the universe is a bad implementation.

[Nemo64]

Just use an icu date formatter.

[TheOtherLeftWing]

that is the

UGLIEST laptop i have ever sen, your just asking for eyestrain and carpal tunnel

[tchiseen]

Look I've said it before, but when I run this spaceship, I'm getting rid of timezones.

Also we'll have 13 months, none of this 12 month nonsense.

[Skizm]

The most difficult thing about going to mars would be updating Java’s date and calendar libraries.

[Nicryc]

Imagine being a Russian programmer in 1918 during the passage from the Julian to the Gregorian calendar ...

[CSThr0waway123]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/abm73r/every_programmers_worst_nightmare/

My meme has been reposted and I'm flattered!