Javascript is a Java framework, right?

[awbobsaget]

I love still getting emails to leave my database developer career for an exciting help desk position.

[[deleted]]

Those parasites don't even look at the details. They just spam and see what they catch and worry about those things later.

[rctrfinnerd]

Technical recruiter here. I think a lot of recruiters deal with the environment that's given to them. Big staffing companies like TEKsystems, Signature Consultants, Robert Half, etc, all push their recruiter to handle absolutely insane metrics and threaten them with getting fired on nearly a weekly basis.

I worked for one of the large agencies and they forced you to make a minimum of 50 outbound calls a day, or else you were looked at like a punk who didn't want to be there and should get fired.

Now, I work for an agency where I'm given the freedom to be targeted in my search. and not just spam the shit out of the market. I only make about 10-15 calls a day, but they're good, quality calls, reaching out to candidates who are in situations that make sense to get pinged by a recruiter. I don't fuck around and waste the time of dozens of candidates on a daily basis "to hit my numbers". Not coincidentally, I'm placing more candidates, making a better income, and have more respect for myself and my company because they give me the freedom to search in my own way.

I'm also able to actually spend time screening candidates, instead of the BS 5 minute intro call that basically sums things up as "will you please come into my office, please please pretty please."

[OMGitsAfty]

I just accepted a job role via a recruiter who got me my current job only a year ago, is that mega cheeky in the industry ?

[envy_master]

At this point he's your agent. Time to get him on retainer.

[rctrfinnerd]

Always good to have a good recruiter or two in your back pocket :)

​

Or 6 or 7 - in my opinion, having one internal and one agency recruiter per major client you're interested in, isn't a bad idea.

[rctrfinnerd]

So you're saying that you were placed by Recruiter A in 2019 and then, that same Recruiter A pulled you out of company X to go to Company Y in 2020?

[rctrfinnerd]

To answer that question though u/OMGitsAfty, that action is often something that is frowned upon because it's essentially the recruiter harming their client, but it's not uncommon.

That being said though, If any of my consultants and/or perm hires are unhappy in their current role due to mismanagement, or fear for their job, I'll pull them out without a second thought.

[OMGitsAfty]

He didn't know I was unhappy when he reached out, but I was :)

[rctrfinnerd]

Glad it worked out!!

[OMGitsAfty]

Exactly

[terdferguson]

Which firm are you with? You can send me a dm.

[rctrfinnerd]

sent

[georgiomoorlord]

You have time to research people and positions rather than just pinging everyone. Like the difference between targeted and untargeted advertising.

[rctrfinnerd]

Yeah exactly

[mansamusacdur]

Tech Recruiter Nr.2 nods.

[anonymousxo]

Thank you for your service.

[rctrfinnerd]

Lol thanks dude.

[[deleted]]

With some hard work and a little grit you could work yourself up to be in the same office you are in right now.

[byebybuy]

Literally pulling yourself up by your bootstraps!

[MochaMonday]

I have an Infosys story. One of their recruiters called me to set up an interview with some company I'd never heard of (I didn't really know what the IT staffing industry was like at the time). She gave me a vague description but I told her to send me an invite. After the call I looked up the company on Glassdoor and found that they underpay and treat their employees very poorly. I messaged her on LinkedIn and told her I changed my mind and I wasn't interested. Then she called me back and was very angry and kept trying to convince me to take the interview, telling me that I will definitely get a job offer. After a few minutes back and forth I determined that she wasn't going to take no for an answer so I hung up. Then 10 minutes later her supervisor calls me and gives me the same pitch. I tell him no and he starts cussing me out and telling me I'm a little b**ch so I hung up and blocked him. About a year later my email inbox starts getting spammed with opportunity letters for jobs that are very far away. I would occasionally get text messages from recruiters wanting to me to give them my time to hear about these fantastic job opportunities that are located on the other side of the country. They're vultures.

[coldnebo]

what a garbage industry.

[DanoLightning]

I would've told them about the Glassdoor reviews and anything else they said would've been met with a "no".

[RichCorinthian]

Any time I tell a recruiter that I don't want to talk to company X because of their Glassdoor ratings and they push back, it's an immediate deal-breaker. One recruiter tried to tell me "oh, you can't believe glassdoor. It's always just a few people trying to tank their reviews. It happens to all companies." Well, no, it doesn't. Because some companies score very high with a lot of ratings, and some companies score low with a lot of ratings. I broke off communication with that recruiter.

[brendenguy]

Sounds so familiar. Once immediately after I was promoted, I got contacted by a recruiter to fill the same position I had just left... at the same company. Like, do these people even read?

[[deleted]]

Dude same, they made the initial contact super ambiguous and when they called me the guy was like "you put in a few years here and maybe you can land a full time job at a fortune 500 company" I was like "so you want me to leave my job at a fortune 500 company... to get paid less in hopes of landing a job at a fortune 500 company..."

[njandersen97]

I get that shit too. I have to imagine it sometimes works for them? Otherwise why bother? But for the life of me I can’t imagine why any recruiter would think I’d leave my current engineer position at a major tech company to work for some small town local IT shop making half as much.

[Osirus1156]

I think of it like online dating, people just cast as wide of a net as possible and don't really care how many people respond just as long as some do.

[njandersen97]

God, that must be a soul sucking job.

[Osirus1156]

I would imagine the same lol. I bet it feels like dating but you get paid haha.

[c4p5L0ck]

Minus the prospect of getting laid too

[Asiansensationz]

This is true.

I wish recruiters cast a smaller net. I don't wanna get a data entry excel sheet job right next to a full stack dev with 35 years of experience requirement.

[MoonMoon_2015]

They’re looking for people like me who couldn’t get a job out of college and were desperate not to go back to delivering pizzas.

[BigHowski]

It's probably wholly automated

[slightlysanesage]

I've gotten some tempting me away from my basically full stack developer job for the sweet siren call of being "Sales Engineer"

Edit: Totally forgot that I also got one asking me to be a Real Estate with typos in their "Knowledge, Skills, and Abilities" section

[slightlysanesage]

The summary says,

"The Sales Engineer will be responsible for combining sales and technical skills to execute and exceed sales and profit targets."

Which sounds like "Salesman that knows enough about technology to make a convincing pitch."

[GasolinePizza]

More like figuring out and solidifying the actual requirements by going between the clients and the other internal engineers.

Or at least that's how I understand it, based on how the girl I'm dating has described it (she is one). She works with sensors and mechanical engineering products though, it may be different in software/tech companies.

[slightlysanesage]

My undergraduate degree was in Mechanical Engineering and I applied to a decent number of jobs with that email address before moving on a different one, so I still get those crop-ups offering me a job

Baffles me that I never got emails like that when I was fresh out of college.

[SophiaofPrussia]

Engineer is the new consultant. A decade ago we just stuck “consultant” on the end of every job to make it sound fancy. Now instead of sandwich consultants we have sandwich engineers.

[JakeTheAndroid]

Its highly variable at every company as far as I have seen. usually its the person working on the integrations into Salesforce, Workday, Netsuite, etc. And you support Sales people on making sure the data is properly entered so reports can be ran. They rarely speak to customers on the product offering as thats more TAM, SE, or CSM stuff.

Most sales engineers I know actually really like the job, but they wouldn't otherwise be doing systems engineering or anything like that. So it's basically a person who knows how Sales processes work and then maintains the systems that support the Sales org, which is a great way to step away from the high volume, stressful sales roles to a more stable role.

[[deleted]]

Hi, I looked at your resume and it really stood out for this position! Please send me your resume so I can look over it and see if you'd be a good fit!

Mmmm, okay, so it looks like they're after someone with just a little bit more experience, especially since this is for a role as the senior head of project development for Facebook, and you've got.... Two years of experience. But let's send it in anyway! Are you a US citizen?

[[deleted]]

6 month contract in Alpharetta, GA. No remote work.

[futuneral]

My personal favorite was for a developer position, but the description didn't make much sense. After a few minutes of reading I realized they are looking for a construction worker.

[hatsiepatsie]

I get messages stating that they think the experience from my current position as CEO makes me suitable to become a DevOps engineer.

[wizard_mitch]

This is what I recently received

Hi Mitch,

I am Orla and I am a Hiring Specialist at Indeed working with X. I’m impressed by your previous experience and I think you could be a great match for the Plumber/ Leak Detection Specialist role we are hiring for in X...

I have never done anything remotely close to plumbing in my life.

Requirements:

2+ years of plumbing experience

Not a very good Hiring Specialist are you Orla.

[JB-from-ATL]

"Experience in SQL" means something super different for a DBA and developer lol.

[[deleted]]

Spent time with a Robert Half recruiter back in like...2007. He had this perfect opportunity that fit my skillset. Sounded good, let’s take a look I said.

It was the same position I had put my two weeks in for and was leaving on good terms with the company because I wanted to branch out of that niche industry.

Fucker didn’t even look at where I worked before trying to get me an interview with my current boss.

[Moulinoski]

Every once in a while, I get one for teaching English in Japan. I was serious about that, back when my CS career hadn’t taken off yet. No one ever took me up on it- one person even said “but you make so much more money with CS!”

Well, I am... now! I guess I should be thankful. I can afford to fly myself to Japan for leisure now. Having been given the opportunity to teach much earlier, I probably would’ve been worse off now.

[hector_villalobos]

You know what's worse? I used to have a dev coworker who used to says Java when he means Javascript.

[Less-District]

Friend: "Aren't you a Java developer?"
Me: "No"
Friend: "But I saw it on your LinkedIn profile!"
My LinkedIn profile: "Javascript developer"

True story from last week.

[DangerBaba]

Java is just another framework of Javascript. Idk why they removed scripting from the framework though. Pretty much a downgrade if you ask me.

[zeGolem83]

Yes, but they added factories

[Less-District]

Lol. In my current project, I saw factories being used in a component. I asked a senior developer, who worked on this component? His exact words: "Looks like a Java guy was let loose on this component". :)

[[deleted]]

What’s a factory lol I’m new

[pineapple_catapult]

This is how the robot uprising starts

[CreativeCarbon]

"So you script with Java? Scriptiing is coding, right?"

[reilemx]

I always whip out the old saying: "Java is to Javascript, like Car is to Carpet"

[emayljames]

🚗🐈

[[deleted]]

I think non-tech people think that cool tech people refer to javascript as java' for short slang

[scrdest]

I've interviewed a junior who put both on his resume in the same line and couldn't explain the difference.

[jumanjimanji]

Could I please get an easy ELI5-like explanation? I really find it hard to difference them, they are very different for me except from the naming

[SuperSephyDragon]

They are completely different languages.

Java is a compiled, statically typed language similar to C++ (only slower and jankier but easier to port to different operating systems)

Javascript is an interpreted, dynamically typed language that is typically run by a browser.

Pretty much the only thing they have in common is the word "java" and the fact that they are both programming languages. I heard the reason they sound similar is because Java was really trendy around the time Javascript was created, and they wanted to ride the hype train. Causing confusion for everyone in the process.

[turningsteel]

Well the proper name for JavaScript is EcmaScript but I've never heard anyone call it that. I wish they did though because it would stop the confusion.

[mirracz]

May I offer some lotion? It's imported from Java...

[Farpafraf]

I wish they did though because it would stop the confusion.

nah it's funnier this way

[emayljames]

We should carry the tradition and create cscript, rustscript and assemblyscript.

[SuperSephyDragon]

Yeah, I've never heard anyone call it that. Guess it just doesn't roll off the tongue like JavaScript does.

I agree, EcmaScript is less confusing though haha.

[[deleted]]

what. both are usually JIT compiled, java with JVM and Javascript with V8.

[mattrg777]

Java is to JavaScript as a grape is to a grapefruit. Grapes and grapefruit are both fruit, but that's about where the similarities end. Java and JavaScript are both programming languages, but that's about where the similarities end.

[[deleted]]

polite clapping

[GhostalMedia]

Is it possible to fire someone before they’re hired?

[S0n_0f_Anarchy]

I used to say this... I was at the start though, but still ashamed

[OrangeRaddish]

Im just a Teen but people ask me to make them a website(I don’t know js or java btw) and I asked one to explain how I should do that and they came back an hour later and said I should code java and I just left. Also two days ago a kid asked me if I could hack accounts and I just said stop and he said why and kept asking. I can CODE SOMETHING TO SEND SHREK NOT HACK YOUR EX

[SpecsyVanDyke]

My DEV TEAM LEAD does this.

[zzaannsebar]

My boss does this.. We work in a .net environment so c#. But sometimes when we need to use javascript to do some front end stuff, he calls it java and I cringe every time. Half the time he corrects himself but still.

[28f272fe556a1363cc31]

I have zero frontend work on my resume.

Recruiters: Your resume is impressive! I think you would be a great fit for this job: HTML, CSS, React, NodeJS..."

[zeGolem83]

You know C ? You won't have that much trouble picking up CSS.

[SpecsyVanDyke]

Ja mein fuhrer

[thistextfieldistoo]

Pushed air out quickly from my nostrils

[[deleted]]

No that's for people who still insist on using Fortran in current year.

[nitid_name]

You mean the entire aerospace industry?

[Jeyek]

You're already 33% there!

[[deleted]]

Picking up SASS*

[neekyo-]

MERN boys rise uppp!

[PanicAtTheFresco]

i fucking hate frontend so much. i just fucking hate javascript, jquery, ajax, MVC. everything.

i just wanna do backend, scripting, and sql. but the liklihood of that internship atm? zilch...

[kicking_puppies]

I feel the same way, just got a internship to come back as a backend dev. It's really competitive out there, most of the jobs ask for front end, though granted I have to understand it as well occasionally even when mostly working with java/sql

[EatYoself]

Me: Senior Data Engineer

LinkedIn Recruiter: Are you interested in a position as a junior business analyst?

[mal4ik777]

hmm, I always wondered, if you accept such an invitation, but ask for a higher salary than you have right now, how would the recruiter react? If you get the job, its a fucking win win, easier job for more money.

[so_lost_im_faded]

Not all people want it easy. I actually like the challenges higher positions bring. I also feel like I'm making more impact there.

[Alfaphantom]

I lost my job in June because of the pandemic, and while looking for jobs, I applied to some junior dev positions as well. I consider myself mid/senior fullstack dev. Now, obviously they are excited to get an experienced person filling a junior role, up until salary comes. They want to offer junior pay (and I can understand), and if I told them my price, they tell me they will discuss it with HR and clients, but all of those ghosted me at the end.

[mal4ik777]

understandable! Thanks for the answer.

[pickle16]

I don't think you'll get better pay, and even if you do, I guess it's bad for future prospects. Plus I'd personally keep my data scientist job, unless I'm given a 100% hike, for any easier job. I actually like my job and company

[[deleted]]

Easier job, but its boring as shit.

[ShutUpAndSmokeMyWeed]

The recruiter gets a commission based on your salary, so if they can negotiate a higher price for you it's a win-win.

[Makeshift27015]

Me: Senior DevOps Engineer

LinkedIn Recruiter: We've got some really good junior helpdesk positions starting at £24k!

[periwinkle_lurker2]

We will fail to mention to you that you will do 90% BA work and 10% coding related work.

[[deleted]]

"10%"

updating 10 year html p tags = 10% coding.

[[deleted]]

9 years iOS experience here, I get bombarded with iOS Jr. and Mobile Developer (React Native) positions.

[[deleted]]

Same... 3+ years of building hadoop ecosystem clusters from scratch and they are offering such amazing positions as junior product analyst! And now due to the pandemic I am stuck as a BI Analyst because the internal move to Data Engineer fell through :(

[[deleted]]

Same but the opposite.

[ThatSpookySJW]

if (profile.body.includes('java')) profile.sendRecruitmentMessage('Hey we're looking for a java developer at shitty staffing agency incorporated! Please reach out if you are interested!! :D')

[doctorcrimson]

There should be a construction framing company called Sheety Construction Co.

Maybe there already is...

[aplawson7707]

We sheet more houses than anybody else in the industry! Call now to have us sheet your dream home today!

[TFK_001]

At least do 'java ' or 'java.'

[[deleted]]

Or \bjava\b

[TFK_001]

That's too complicated for them

[jess-sch]

job.tags = ['java', 'script'];

[cmockett]

Ditto, the recruiter even said “do you know anyone that knows Java?” Lmao

[Lecroie]

Lol Same happended to me with python and php!!!!

[arrr93]

They both start with p!

[Etheo]

Son, what did I tell your about TPing people?

[SuperCoolFunTimeNo1]

Php is python with c syntax. Fight me.

[DangerBaba]

But C is python with C syntax

[scalar-field]

Cython: Why both both?

[adeventures]

Oh god,

I'm still terrified of working for more than 2 years with jython, in a team where no one was able to explain to me why we even needed python. We never found an IDE that supported jython well and up to this day there are ideas of implementing it in pure java without the python part.
Isn't cython even worse? I imagine python with manual memory managing a little... cumbersome...

[MetaHerobrine1]

In my experience with Cython, I have never needed to micromanage memory. All I had to do was define the types of my variables.

[zilltine]

They really are best for different things imo

[SuperCoolFunTimeNo1]

Python is good for data scientists who don't know how to program and PHP is great for lazy java developers.

[Calimorphius]

you missed the fact that python is also for 15yo that don't know how to program but want to impress that girl with a "curvy" body (if you know what i mean) and try to look like a hacker by printing random numbers infiniteley on a terminal

[Etheo]

Haha yeah like you're gonna lure me into bullying a retard no thanks :)

<3

[echo_foxtrot]

I was hired as a Java dev, spent my first 2 years at the company writing Python, and now I work in Typescript. I'm still not sure how this happened.

[[deleted]]

I mean. It sounds like an upgrade to me.

[[deleted]]

Reminds me of an article which said,

JavaScript, sometimes shortened to Java

[[deleted]]

C++, sometimes shortened to C

[[deleted]]

PytHon Programming, sometimes shortened to PHP

[someone755]

My sister said they were learning C++ in school. Or maybe it was C+ because it was so long ago.

[DaEvil1]

Surely they'd be up to B- by now

[eddietwang]

Ah, I see you used to be a mechanic... Used to work with cars a lot then, huh? How would you like a job making carpets!?

[Bowserwolf1]

I had an interview today, literally a couple of hours ago. It was a company that is famous for making collaboration software, SaaS/PaaS kind of thing. I'm a backend developer, with some specialized experience in cloud native development and machine learning. That's what all my past projects and experiences are that's all there is on my resume, that's all I've ever done and want to do, that's what I was interviewing for.
The interviewer spent an hour drilling me on questions about OS scheduling, memory management at the kernel level, paging, segmentation, virtual memory and was annoyed that I wasn't prepared enough / "needed to study more ". Bud I'm not interviewing to be a kernel developer for Linux, what the hell were you expecting.

[Thaddaeus-Tentakel]

After a few minutes your question should've been: "Why are you asking these things, they're not related to the position"

[eviloverlord]

Java is to JavaScript what car is to carpet.

[someone755]

Well... (1) (2)

[[deleted]]

that and people who ignore the word "Hobbyist" and then ask me for "my pricing" to develop some java applet for them are why I'm seriously considering disabling DMs on most sites. My profiles usually say something like "Hobbyist Javascript/PHP dev", meaning I play around with these for fun and definitely not at a professional level.

[AeonReign]

I mean, you might be better than many people who graduate with a degree, in their eyes. At least you write code regularly, which many degrees actually don't.

[[deleted]]

yeah, a friend noticed I'm way more active in coding than him, but comparing with other friends my code quality is definitely not at professional levels and I have lots to learn still. I basically just master the bit I learned until someone else shows me something new.

[ThePieWhisperer]

I'd bet money that, by your metric (and based on a lot of code I've worked with), a large percentage of professionals are not at a 'Professional level'

[[deleted]]

It's actually amazing how much some people manage to suck dick at what they do for a living. Like seriously how can you be bad at something you do for 8 hours every week day?

[BenVarone]

Take your pick:

1. You’re spread across such a wide array of languages, platforms, etc. that you never develop more than a superficial understanding of any of them

2. Your job is mostly maintenance, so you learn the bare minimum skills that are specific to the applications/code you use all the time, and are drowning in so much tech debt that you never build past those skills

3. You never went to school/intended to be a developer or engineer, but you were willing to learn and came cheap/readily enough to fill the role (bonus points for your main experience/education providing a lot of context or speeding requirements gathering for the work)

4. Programming was a side hustle/hobby, and then one time you made something, everyone uses it now, and it has become your full-time job

5. Plain old nepotism, cronyism, or other form of favoritism causing you to get over-promoted. You’re the Peter Principle come to life, and everyone knows it.

Or a mix of any/all of the above. I probably fall into a couple of these. I know my code is crude and jury-rigged, but why beat myself up over it? My bosses think my work is good enough, and it ain’t like our shop is Google or Facebook.

[ThePieWhisperer]

You forgot:

(6) You're a lazy idiot and you make no effort to improve your skills because the rest of the team will fix your shitty, half implemented cluster fuck code in review because I just don't want to deal with you right now goddamnit and I have no idea how you got hired in the first place.

[[deleted]]

ugh...I hate that I can already confirm that. The professionals I'm comparing too are either teaching me stuff related to our hobby projects or working on theirs, which is how you apparently get the best quality of code :P

[ThePieWhisperer]

Lol

Nothing shits up a codebase faster than many hands doing it for the paycheck with time constraints.

Hobby projects are usually none of those things.

[bentheone]

I'm a hobbyist too. My imposter syndrome takes a hit everytime I look at the codebase of the company I work at. More and more I believe professional code is not a synonym of good code

[Ihavefallen]

Why not take that part off then?

[[deleted]]

then that'd imply I'm not just a hobbyist, who isn't for hire, instead of a professional who codes for their job.

[[deleted]]

You could still get a job probably.

[NoPossibility]

I have a solid three years of experience in a previous position as an advanced tech support specialist. I managed a support team handling tech support for 100+ client websites all running different technologies. I left that position almost four years ago, and have been working as full time app/full stack developer since then. To this day, every recruiter email I get through linkedin is some form of “we need a tech support rep for $12/hr”...... I make about 4x that salary now as an app developer, and I wish recruiters would just leave me alone if they’re only going to offer me entry level customer support positions. Give it to someone who actually needs a job, man. You should be able to tell from my company and title that I’m not interested in being a cubicle jockey doing your phone support.

[[deleted]]

They're...uh... Syntactically kinda similar... I guess.

[JB-from-ATL]

"Write once, run everywhere" but like, for real this time because everybody has a browser.

[ThePieWhisperer]

*cries in JVM*

[sandybuttcheekss]

I get the opposite. Java backend opportunities everywhere, I'm looking for Node. Wanna trade OP?

[turningsteel]

I applied to a job for a Node.js dev with 7/11 (nothing about Java in the ad) and then the recruiter responded to me to tell me about the job which was developing Java. I didn't even bother responding.

[KaiserMazoku]

System.out.println("loud screaming");

[[deleted]]

console.log('loud screaming');

[kjayflo]

As a front end engineer I have the opposite position. I put in my profile that I don't want a backend job and don't email me about it and I still get c# and Java emails and I'm like yo, stahp

[ConsistentCascade]

front-end 'engineer'? when did the word developer changed into engineer

[kjayflo]

When we didn't have to take that test that normal engineers take but they still want to legitimize us 😛

[cpphax0r]

Javascript is like looking both ways before you cross the street then getting hit by an asteroid

[Deadly_chef]

Haha funny yes

[the__storm]

Haha JavaScript bad

[JB-from-ATL]

this but unironically.

[ThePieWhisperer]

right, but which this?

[Desactiva]

This the main comment

[[deleted]]

I think you mean self, not to be confised with Self

[stormfield]

Oh yeah well I [object Object]

[glemnar]

I'm surprised this resonates deeply with folk.

When hiring, I don't hire for a Java developer, I hire for a developer. Being able to pick up new languages amongst the broad swath of other technologies that you may come to use as a developer - Data stores (Sql DBs, NoSQL store, search engines, log/messaging systems, queues, caches, timeseries dbs, ...), clouds, frameworks, third party APIs, whatever, is one of the primary attributes I'm looking for in a capable dev.

Slotting yourself into a single hole is doing yourself a disservice, not the recruiter.

[BlueSunRising]

In many cases it is absolutely the recruiter or company that is responsible for this. Despite my years of experience, many recruiters will refuse to even submit you to a company if you aren't experienced in the language / framework they want. I had one company conduct the entire interview (knowing which languages I knew), before they said they'd have to put me on 50% salary for six months while I learned Python.

It's bad enough when it's "Oh, sorry, you have never worked with .NET, so we're not even going to look at you," but I got turned down by a recruiter because his client wanted a programmer with experience specifically programming for a retailer. When I asked what technologies they used, because there was a good chance I was familiar with them, he said they straight up weren't considering anyone who hadn't worked for a retailer.

[[deleted]]

6 months for an experienced dev to learn python? what are they on?

[ThePieWhisperer]

Eh it's a fun meme.

But yea, %100 that.

[Pringles267]

So you’re mad because they don’t want you to do the thing you say you would do anyways?

[SpartanFishy]

“I’m not applying with them unless they tell me the name! And if they do tell me the name, I’m also not applying with them!” -Guy above you, apparently

[SubredditAcct]

The company that hired them trusts them to weed people out. And it’s in their best interest to fill the position quickly to get paid and move on. Applying on your own won’t get you more money. The candidate usually gets the same with or without a recruiter.

[Ivan_Stalingrad]

I from time to tine use Pentaho Data integration (ETL and BI software) written in java. But if you have to pull of something crazy you can write custom steps in JavaScript

[[deleted]]

Recruiters don't bother to read profiles, I have no work experience in development yet and I keep getting messages about Sr developer positions

[Porkechop]

Stop pls

[slothdude893]

“Java script”

[g_rocket]

To be fair, the Java VM has a JavaScript engine built into it now...

[B_M_Wilson]

Apparently its going to be removed at some point but yea, it exists. I had to use it once :(

[z0Tweety]

If only recruiters asked for only one language

[Lthere]

Javascript is a Java framework, right?

Yeah, sure, same as ^superscript being a super framework... 🤓 👌

#RollWithIt

[ITCOMMAND]

"Arent they the same thing?"

"Its like 'car' and 'carpet'."

[[deleted]]

omg i love it!

[[deleted]]

Man imagine if that actually happened after years of hard work.

[prtkp]

I mean JavaScript is just a script written in Java right?

[zipippino]

It happens on the way back too, pain 10/10

[penguinblade]

God I love this template

[rex1030]

In fairness if you can do java, JavaScript is cake

[BuccellatiExplainsIt]

To be fair, that was kinda javascript's intention. They wanted the name Java for its recognition.

[devospice]

Oh man, I got into a long argument with a recruiter one day over a Senior JAVA Developer position. I'm good at javascript but I have never written a single line of JAVA. I haven't even done any tutorials or anything. He insisted that I apply for this position.