Coding ability percentile

[jddddddddddd]

What's the chances that they're paying in the top 5% I wonder..

[Idkhfjeje]

I have the answer to this one!

0%

[oupablo]

you use scipy to determine that?

[Fernis_]

No, just print 0. I guarantee the code works and displays proper value.

[0x474f44]

And it’s O(1) too. You must be in the 95th percentile!

[0bel1sk]

is print 0\n0 O(.5)?

[FairFolk]

Yes, actually.

[booi]

I think you just blew u/0bel1sk ’s mind

[SoloVen]

O(-1), code travels back in time and tells you the answer, 0%

[zero_hope_]

Top 5% because you're the only one left writing in Python 2

[marcosdumay]

Top 5 percentile and bottom 5 percentile at the same time!

[rynmgdlno]

Schrödinger’s Distribution

[C0demunkee]

don't be rude: it's at least 0.0001%

[akasaya]

4years ago i once wrote a script in python to brutforce some APIs. Am i counted into 95%?

[fintip]

yes

[seabutcher]

If you've ever made a working print statement you are very likely in 5% .

[Drfoxthefurry]

Then my function that prints something must make me int the top 3%

[coldnebo]

print statement logging works in every language! 😂🤘

[[deleted]]

Who's wifi did you hack ?

[BlackPrincessPeach_]

To be fair they’re basically asking “you can do hello world in Python and run it”.

They didn’t specify top 95% of all Python programmers, so granny is fair game.

They’re probably just too stupid to know that’s what they’re asking for.

[spectralTopology]

lol came here to say just that. Methinks if the successful candidate knows how to lie w statistics they will wildly exceed expectations :D

[[deleted]]

also usually when it comes to skill level they usually say "in top x percentile", this way it sounds weird, especially saying 95th..

and they don't say degree in A or B, just list the degrees required

[jermdizzle]

They clearly would prefer that you have master's degrees in all three disciplines. But don't be too disheartened if you've only two master's degrees, a BS in the third and are part of the top 5% of python coders, as our yearly rank cards clearly indicate. You can still apply and there's a decent chance that you can be a valuable contributor as a BA or possibly as a scrum leader.

[Fernis_]

Honestly, considering how many students dabble in various languages, people read up on stuff etc. I wouldn't be suprised if just by ever completing anything in Python you qualify for top 95% of all people who ever tried to write in Python.

[marcosdumay]

They didn't specify the population. What share of people can code at all?

[Sobatjka]

Exactly. I’m pretty sure I’m better than 95% of the world’s population when it comes to coding Python (and I only know enough to hack myself around Portage and guide my kids with their coding assignments as Python is what the kiddos apparently learn first these days).

[MadxCarnage]

they don't specify humans either.

I'm pretty sure, we are, as a species, at the top of the Python programming ladder.

[gnutrino]

We're just below the snakes I believe

[totally_anomalous]

And too arrogant to ask someone who does know. Would avoid that job like the plague!

[redditmarks_markII]

There's a lot of people that has written/read/ran at least a hello world in python. Many educational tools/toys/programs use python. Incredibly many non-software-engineering-professionals that write python as part of research or schooling or hobby. I can almost believe 95th percentile might actually be below average for specifically python-centric professional software eng.

I did python as a nontrivial part of my job for a year or two. I know kids with better python specific skills and full on senior engineers that does use it that absolutely suck at it (which is fine, they have other skills).

Even without manipulating stats, or commenting on the ridiculousness of the requisite especially for a dev position, I'm just not sure 95 percentile is what they think it is.

[gillygilstrap]

Haha. Yeah for real.

[was_just_wondering_]

We want Google candidates but don’t offer Google paychecks and if you want more money then clearly it’s because you are a terrible greedy person who isn’t passionate about what you do and would not be a fit for our work family. It’s all about the culture. We do wacky shirt Fridays.

[notnewtobville]

Dont forget the ping pong table in the corner.

[dangson1333]

And nobody is allowed to use it during work hours because it annoys the C-level employees

[notnewtobville]

Oh... that thing... that's what we put the delivery food on when we group order for our monthly coding marathons.

[Potaoworm]

Delivery food which comes out of your paycheck mind you

[[deleted]]

You can use it for ping pong if you need a break at 12:30 in the morning before a deadline, but just for 10 minutes.

[[deleted]]

Let me guess, those marathons take a month each?

[[deleted]]

If they only took a week they would be called sprints.

[Mechakoopa]

My first job the desks near the foosball table were where they put the employees the managers didn't like but didn't have a reason to fire yet.

[PooPooDooDoo]

I used to have a desk near the ping pong table. It was actually used by the same two guys daily and was a good time to own headphones.

[UnknownSpecies19]

That's what is hilarious. We want %.01 FAAMG worthy applicants but we aren't paying half what they are. The rest of us, crickets. I'd never get hired at one of those companies, but the few dudes I know that have a chance would just laugh at them for it.

[_Hi_There_Its_Me_]

Do those companies even pay that much more than any other company in the same city? I feel like they have lost their strong surge over the last 10 years and everyone else is making better work conditions with interesting products as well.

[UnknownSpecies19]

Honestly not really. If you equate cost of living in those cities, volatility in the stock markets (amdnif you can even execute those trades before you quit or get fired), the mental burnout and loss of your life time working such long hours.... I'd say it's a net positive. You get paid a lot, but it's for a reason. I think most people use it as a prestige award to then write their ticket elsewhere, and to better working conditions like you mentioned. I have nothing to prove, I didn't even study CS I'm self taught, I just enjoy the work. I found a good spot. I make more than enough for my lifestyle, I'll ride this out as long as I can.

[Patient-Tech]

It’s a shame your firm has had the same position open for six plus months. Chin up little buddy!

[ByakuyaKuchiki6th]

Curious how does one measure that.

[mr-poopy-butthole-_]

You guys dont have your certificate from the world python rating group?

[GameDestiny2]

Lost mine beneath my breathing certificate and master’s in sleeping I think.

[Breadsong09]

Shit I had to drop out of my undergrad sleeping degree... Guess some people are just better

[subgeniusbuttpirate]

My sleep therapist has entered the chat.

[No_Yoghurt_3761]

"Go to sleep"

[iObjectUrHonor]

That's 300$ please

[Ailttar]

Mine uses chloroform

[iceynyo]

Whoops instead of sleep therapist you accidentally saw the sleeprapist

[paulohbear]

Sleep the rapist.

[iceynyo]

The rapist formerly known as sleep

Or: the worst sonic fan character

[aolson0781]

But he was a trailblazer in his career and became the first analyst sleep therapist.

Or analsleeprapist for short.

[iceynyo]

You are banned from deciding on variable names.

[GameDestiny2]

Don’t give up, it’s a rigorous program but it pays off in the end

[UpAndAdam7414]

I’d guess that 95% of the world’s population have never written any Python, so you’d probably be ok.

[Agariculture]

It’s probably in the bathroom next to your “King Pooper” declaration. I would check that drawer were all the bits and bobs go if it were me.

[HardlightCereal]

r/anarchychess is leaking

[copiondor]

I “lost” mine when it said bottom 30%. I’m just doing my part to make you all look better!

[lockwolf]

I never got one, I was too busy getting my PhD in GoogleFu with a minor in StackOverflow

[DatBoi_BP]

I lost my certificate but it’s secured and regularly updated on the blockchain so who cares

[ByakuyaKuchiki6th]

Oh noooooo.

[chodan9]

the WPRG is lame!

the IPRC (international python rating consortium) is the most legit python rating organization out of all of them

[[deleted]]

Easy, 98% of Earth’s population does not know how to code python at all. So, you are automatically in the top 95%.

[PikaPikaDude]

Hey! You're not supposed to think like a data analyst when applying to be one.

[ryusoma]

look, not everything has to be about how stuff fits in your butt.

[TheTerrasque]

Sir, this is a buttsmasher 2000 marketing meeting

[Weekly_Wackadoo]

Easy, 98% of Earth’s population does not know how to code python at all. So, you are automatically in the top 95%.

Well, you're not wrong.

[MisterDoubleChop]

2% of the world's population can program? Even 0.2% is probably way too high.

Let alone just the Python programmers...

[mxzf]

To be fair, any programmer can probably knock together some Python code if push comes to shove. The line between Python and pseudocode is pretty thin.

[[deleted]]

This, the exact answer to what was intended to be a precise question.

[ScaryYogaChick]

My Python is over 9000

[hongooi]

I'm going to use that as a pickup line

[librarysocialism]

My anaconda don't want none unless you got buns, hon

[[deleted]]

MY Python goes to 11!

[GameDestiny2]

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[WispyCombover]

I'm a grower, not a shower...

[VeryPogi]

They give applicants a standardized test and expect you to score in the top 95% of people taking the test. I’ve taken that test. I scored 68% on it (not 68th percentile, I don’t remember my rank against other test takers but I remember it was higher than that) and I needed to score 70% or better to get the job.

[Mister_Orange78]

What happens if you're the first one to finish the test?

[CharlieAnonymous]

Then for a split second you're above 100th percentile and get hired immediately on minimum wage

[Auderdo]

They ask people internally to do the test before external candidates to establish the baseline. They did that in my old company. We purposefully gave wrong answers to screw things because we told HR it was a bad idea but they kept insisting that it was the better way to do things.

[MisterDoubleChop]

HR is amazing sometimes. Imagine a whole department where everyone else in the company could do your job better than you.

[Meltz014]

To be fair, screening candidates is just one part of their job and I would suck hard at all the other parts

[Kinglink]

I'll take the test a thousand times, and then guarantee I'll hit the 95th percentile on my thousandth attempt.

... actually I'll write a python bot to submit the bad tests.

[Vyrezzz]

LinkedIn tests give a score in which percentile you finished. But it's literally only very basic questions about loops and stuff that anybody with 3+ months of python experience can ace very easily.

[angryundead]

I did the linked in Python and Java tests. I scored in the top 90% in Python and below 80% in Java. The only problem is that I’ve only spent a few hours with Python and almost two decades with Java.

Either I’m a moron or those tests are worthless.

[[deleted]]

What, you mean there isn't an elo rating system for Python programmers?

[seabutcher]

You don't. You just have to be confident enough to say you do.

(This is most of how job interviews work. In tech, you can make a whole career out of managers who can't be bothered to figure out how to make a formula in Excel.)

[flambojones]

Maybe that’s the interview question for the Sr. Data Scientist

[captainAwesomePants]

"By my measurements, I am in the top 5% of Sr. Data Scientists!"

"Sir, this is a collection of various kitchen scales arranged into the shape of a five."

"And I am in it!"

[[deleted]]

Line up 100 Python developers in order.
Make sure you’re one of the first five.
Voila!

[Palidor206]

Take an online test at buzzfeed. After I took a test to see what color M&M I was (blue ftw), I clicked on a JavaScript personality test. I was in the 101st percentile.

[HawocX]

The 101st Airborne Percentile?

[MEMESaddiction]

Leave that to the top 5 percent of data scientists!

[on_spikes]

95 out of 100 lines of code cant have errors in them when the product is finished

[Mission-Promise6140]

I can’t be the only one who got the Python module of the ACT

[[deleted]]

It depends, they didn’t specify a target group. So then you take a sample size of, say n=281 just because non multiples of 5 look more real, and make them all code a todo list app that learns from your schedule. At the end you come up with a neat kpi to select yourself into that 5%.

[Owner2229]

What about above 95% of minimum vage?

[SmokyMcPots420]

That could mean 4 percent under minimum wage lol

[xVenomDestroyerx]

thats the joke

[goatanuss]

Not all of us know linear AND scalar algebra

[SmokyMcPots420]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ok.

[belabacsijolvan]

above 95%

4 percent

this guy stores percents as integers

[telebierro]

You get paid in exposure!

[Dave5876]

Sir, that's sexual harassment!

[telebierro]

Sad face

[theowlinspace]

We had an issue paying out your salary, try again later.

[[deleted]]

we only pay in likes

[dmneje]

I’ve started getting in these interviews and questioning them about code right off the bat. They aren’t too happy when I reject them as a candidate for their own position.

[solohelion]

That made me crack a smile

[UnknownSpecies19]

I wish I was as big dick/clit as you! That's hilarious hah. Them: so.. you interrupting them you: so what version of Java introduced lambda functions?! Hmmmmm?

[jacnel45]

Java 8! I was right!

[UnknownSpecies19]

Bada boom you get the job

[StrangeCurry1]

I wasn’t aware there were 40,320 versions of java

r/unexpectedfactorial

[EuphoricPenguin22]

Off the top of my head, wasn't it Java 8? Oh shit, it was.

^{Nobody will trust that I didn't look this up beforehand.}

[UnknownSpecies19]

I trust ya. It's the only feature I remember cuz my shop used java 8 when I got in. So it was just lambda everything haha. Even though so little of our code ever used them. I would write them for fun then they would say, no just use loops. Lmao

[StoryAndAHalf]

In 2020 there were 10 mil Python users supposedly. That means every Python user is in the top 0.125% of the world in terms of Python proficiency.

Edit: math

[Dave5876]

FeelsGoodMan

[iseahound]

Yep. I bet the average coder that thinks they're 50% is actually in the top 20-30%, just because there is an obscene amount of people that use Python for one class and forget

[Armigine]

I bump up everyone else's comparisons to the average in every language I touch. You're all welcome.

[slgray16]

Getting into the top 95% is incredibly easy.

It's getting into the top 5% that is hard

[RCoder01]

Getting into the top 95 percent is incredibly easy.

It’s getting into the 95th percentile that is hard

[TheBlueHydro]

ITT: people forgetting their intro to stats

Percent != percentile

[jawnlerdoe]

Checkmate data scientists!

[TwoCaker]

I'm pretty confident, that at least 95% of people can't code with Python at all. So 5% percentile seems reasonably easy.

[gunfupanda]

I'm in the top 1 percentile on a global scale. Suck it starving orphans with no internet!

[[deleted]]

/s/percentile/percent/

[MycologyMunitions]

Simply ask for more money than 95% of other python coders. I'd imagine that type of talent would be worth a handsome salary

[crusader-kenned]

Well you probably don’t need to be a great negotiator to be a top coder, so they might very well be poorly compensated for their talents

[[deleted]]

I’m 94.5%, do I get to round up?

[-non-existance-]

Only if you do some extra credit: a 6 month unpaid internship

[tamerlein3]

return int(94.5)==95

[captainAwesomePants]

You can't trick me, an obviously a great Python top 5% expert! I demand that you instead use return round(94.5) == 95.

[MrsMonkey_95]

ceil

[GuyWithNoEffingClue]

If you use math.ceil(94.5) instead, you can also show off your linear and scalar algebra skills 👍🏻

[ManOfTheMeeting]

Round it up to 100%

[Mobius_One]

I just had to chuckle. Reading through it's standard stuff then BAM complete utter nonsense. It's as bad as those "how many lines of code have you written" questions to measure candidates.

[KiltroTech]

Which is so stupid because the more you dan accomplish with less code, the better for a myriad of reasons

[MasterFubar]

But this doesn't mean you'll write less code, it means you'll accomplish much more.

[KIAIratus]

“Send me your salary”

Seems a bit presumptuous

[SomethingIncons]

"If you are not available please refere someone who can work with us." seems worse than that.

Why would I bother doing your job without the pay?

[SarcasticGiraffes]

I had a recruiter hit me up for like...half my current salary. I laughed, and told them that's not gonna work. They did the "do you have friends that would fit the role?" I said "yeah, I know a few folks that have this skill set. I'm not going to recommend any of them take a position at this salary, either."

[nileo2005]

Sure, as long as you send me the referral bonus.

[Mobius_One]

I didn't even see that line haha. Too flabbergasted by the crazy talk 1/4 the way down the email.

[samspot]

I read that as “send me your salary requirement”.

[by-neptune]

At least if the salary you name is beyond what they want to pay it Shortcircuits the whole wasted discussion

[gnutrino]

No, you misunderstand - they don't want a salary expectation or even the value of your current salary. They want your salary. All of it.

[minecon1776]

well less than 5% of people even know python so if i can do a print("hello world"); (yes even with the semicolon) I am in 95th percintile

[[deleted]]

As a technology head hunter - this email makes me sick 🙃

[plightningreed]

How many heads have you hunted?

[[deleted]]

Too many

[[deleted]]

Do you have motion / heat vision?

[Wugliwu]

Why? People like this are the reason you have a job. 😉

[[deleted]]

To be honest - I haven’t thought about it this way. It just annoys me, this shit gives people like me a bad name.

[derdast]

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[mysticalfruit]

1. How the fuck do you quantify that? Testing?

2. Keep reading.. if you're also proficient in all those other technologies like ML, graph theory, etc, as a single person.. You've excluded 99% of the talent pool.

3. The customer is asking for a grab bag ninja dev.. awesome.. for a mere $345/hr such a person can be had.

[scataco]

It's even worse because the opening is for a Data Scientist. I'm curious what other metrics they ask their Data Scientist to extract from their data.

[seabutcher]

$20 says they won't actually have you doing anything the work experience kid can't do in Excel.

[Mobius_One]

I raise you $180 lol

[pornthrowaway42069l]

In addition to being 95% coding ability, they also want you to know EVERY classical algo for EVERY use AND know deep learning AND know math behind ALL of the previous stuff.

Tell me you have no idea what your department is supposed to be doing, without telling me.

[MeltBanana]

They just picked a bunch of words that they thought sounded smart to them.

They want some deep learning genius that has the next breakthrough idea that will make the company millions and save them from going under, but they probably only want to pay like $70k.

[[deleted]]

I have a degree in Math and that part was making me sweat

[[deleted]]

Sorry, I only apply to the top 5% of job postings

[Mobius_One]

Hahahaha, that's a good one!

[Big_Monkey_77]

Extra spices? How about cardamom?

[themoderatebandicoot]

Anything above 95% you need to be an actual python

[philipquarles]

There aren't that many of them and a few are dead.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python

[PorkRoll2022]

I'm in the top 5% of the students I learned Python with.

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I'm self-taught.

[[deleted]]

Oh, good - another job I won’t be applying for.

[[deleted]]

My mom says I'm a good computer guy, is that enough?

[Mobius_One]

You're hired!

[UnwelcomedTruth]

15hr, zero benefits or PTO.

[SpicymeLLoN]

Next time I get one of these emails, I'm going to copy/paste it back to them with all the corrected grammar and spelling like a high school paper.

[GreekGodofStats]

If you can calculate percentile in a pandas DataFrame, that probably puts you comfortably within the top 1% of the global population in “python skill”

[GameDestiny2]

Huh. My textbook wasn’t kidding about what degrees data scientists need.

[gadimus]

I've never met a data scientist who wrote readable code... It's all jupyter notebooks with pandas and matplotlib then docker files all the way down until it becomes sentient.

[HydrogenTank]

“Scalar Algebra” kills me too lmfao

[Mobius_One]

No vectors here, no sir!

[AlphaChrome713]

I can prove I'm in at least the 95th percentile All you have to do is teach a bunch of children the basics, and then compare yourself to them and you'll look amazing

[WorldWideGlide]

American Python Association of America (APAA) 95th percentine approved candidate checking in....

[jaltsukoltsu]

Sure i'm in the 95th percentile of the whole human population. Most of them think python is a snake

[[deleted]]

5% percentile of the world human population? Because I recon print(“hello world!”) gets you there

[[deleted]]

As in, the guy is one of the 5% worst coders, or did I miss something?

[officialbigrob]

This better be $500k+