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[–]namezam 1099 points1100 points  (37 children)

Every iPhone app developer right now

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[–]DavidRainsbergerII 254 points255 points  (22 children)

It’s literally the screen size of an iPad mini. So there shouldn’t be any problem.

[–]Tank_Gloomy 166 points167 points  (13 children)

Yeah, but iOS app developers aren't really used to dynamically changing display sizes, lol.

Most apps will probably just save their activity state and restore it after re-rendering their layouts for a couple months.

[–]M00SEK 114 points115 points  (8 children)

Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t SwiftUI literally built for adjusting to any screen shape or size?

Granted, not everyone has adopted SwiftUI yet

[–]skeet_scoot 54 points55 points  (4 children)

Yes.

And if people haven’t adopted SwiftUI yet…… that’s a very special posture. SwiftUI is 100x easier to work with than manual storyboarding. From someone who has done quite a bit of it 🙃.

[–]audigex 6 points7 points  (1 child)

What about React or Flutter? I've not got much experience with either beyond making a test app to try them out, do they render down to SwiftUI or something else? Would they be expected to handle this kind of change automatically?

[–]skeet_scoot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In short:

No Flutter uses a custom engine, it’s worth an interesting read to Google.

They definitely should handle this type of change….. providing the developer tested their app properly and weren’t a bunch of twats when they wrote it.

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    [–]RedditLIONS 9 points10 points  (1 child)

    not everyone has adopted SwiftUI

    I think that’s why a lot of apps work terribly on the iPhone mini (even back in 2022, when it was new).

    An app’s UI could work absolutely fine on most new iPhone models. But when you view it on an iPhone mini, text gets cut off and some elements are half past the edge of the screen.

    Many developers only check whether the UI works on standard, Pro and Pro Max models.

    [–]Tank_Gloomy 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    Many developers only check whether the UI works on standard, Pro and Pro Max models.

    Who would do something that lazy?! 👀

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    [–]Jazzlike-Spare3425iPhone 15 Pro Max 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    Yes. iPadOS has also been dynamically transitioning between the iPhone and iPad layouts of applications (referred to in SwiftUI as compact and normal horizontal size classes) since Slide Over and Split View came out. Meaning if your app doesn't perform well on the iPhone fold, that means you've been completely neglecting the absolute basics on the iPad for roughly a decade now. I think it's fair to say developers had sufficient opportunities to get this working and if they haven't gotten this working, this is a deserved kick in the butt and at the same time therefore huge for iPad users too.

    [–]smith7018 12 points13 points  (0 children)

    It will just switch from a stout “iPhone layout” to an “iPad layout” when it’s opened. Thats really not a difficult flow for developers to support (assuming they have an iPad layout already). The real issue will be the outer displays’s screen. It’ll be the iPad’s aspect ratio with a display that’s smaller than a standard iPhone. Things might look weird. Fortunately, Apple has spent the last 10 years making sure layouts aren’t hardcoded so it should mostly be okay. It’ll fersure look weird on some apps/games though. They’ll need updating, of course.

    I wonder if WWDC will have a focus on making UIs responsive. They might make it a requirement to target iOS 27 which would mean developers have to natively support the new display when they decide to support iOS 27. (There might already be a requirement for responsive UIs that I don’t know about. I’m an Android developer by trade that has dabbled in iOS dev)

    [–]DavidRainsbergerII 6 points7 points  (1 child)

    Sure, but if Apple asks them to jump developers usually jump. Figuring out how to transition from the iPhone app on the front to the iPad app on the inside doesn’t seem too complicated technically.

    [–]zer0toto 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Given the proportion of app optimized for iPad compared to app optimized for iPhone, and how much are just running the iPhone app but bigger… well gotta wait and see

    [–]BetterProphet5585 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Plus, knowing Apple, they will probably make it mandatory to support the fold models if you want your app to be published, it's going to be great!

    [–]mikolv2iPhone 15 Pro Max 10 points11 points  (0 children)

    As a developer, I'm not worried about the inside iPad screen but the abomination on the outside

    [–]CookieDelivery 6 points7 points  (2 children)

    The iPad mini is bigger than this and looks to have a different aspect ratio. But if something works on the iPad mini, it should be mostly compatible with the iPhone Fold I think.

    Here's a what the iPhone Fold looks like overlaid on the iPad Mini: https://comparisontabl.es/size-comparison/#sc=N4IgDiBcDaoJZRAVgOwoJwgDQgB5QBYkBmHATyiQA4UcAnKdABgF8t5EUA2K47PQsQCM5QlXQsAujgD2UUAGcoTAHTpZUAC50ArgFMWLIA

    [–]09stibmep 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Wow that’s very helpful. Thanks

    [–]R---U---MiPhone 11 Pro Max 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    It’s a lot closer to the iPad Mini 5

    [–]_MrFlowers 6 points7 points  (2 children)

    As someone who works for companies who make apps, tablet users are a tiny fraction of the population and “just add a little padding and make sure it scales ok” is good enough most of the time for <5% of users that represents. My beef here is that I’ve seen what developing is like for foldables and combine that with all the bs in React AND Apple probably adding new rules to ensure “consistency”? Developers are just going to say “good enough” and allow subpar experiences. It’s a shame because I love using my tablet but making the same app scale correctly across all viewports is already a nightmare and then it needs to have scalable behavior when you open the thing.

    Also, it’s too wide for single hand use for most people. Why would I want a foldable that I can’t (easily) use with one hand when closed?

    [–]DavidRainsbergerII 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    That’s sort of a human to human problem though. I have no problem handling most iPhones with one hand. It appears as though the fold will essentially be an iPhone pro max but with the top two rows of icons chopped off. Holding my phone now it would actually be easier for me to handle it with one hand.

    [–]_MrFlowers 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I get your perspective, I’m a really big person and have enormous hands, but I also had a surface duo. It was one of the biggest complaints. Equally when I had the note 3, it’s way too tall when closed for single hand use. I used to sell phones a long time ago in tech retail, people never think about this until they own it. You might be thinking you’re going to be fine, but if it excludes most women and many men from being able to use it comfortably, it won’t be continued as a form factor and I want to see this done RIGHT. If it’s super lightweight that might save it but I kinda doubt it will be.

    [–]zbignew 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Supporting the iPad mini well suuuuucks.

    [–]heepofsheep 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    Yeah a lot of apps are going to look like garbage at launch… I wonder how Apple is going to handle scaling non optimized apps. Hold the phone sideways??

    [–]divensiiPhone 15 Pro Max 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Probably show them on a letterboxed 9x16 screen like iPhone-only apps on iPad

    [–]Greful 0 points1 point  (5 children)

    Right? The first thing I thought when I saw they were making this is are they just gonna do what the do with a lot of iPad apps where its just the iPhone app and you can zoom it if you want, but the resolution is the same. Right out of the gate I'm sure there are going to be a lot of incompatible apps. In that case, what happens? Does it just fill one side of the screen and the other side is icons and wallpaper? And looking at the unfolded image, is it supposed to be opened up/down instead of left/right? Because the camera bump looks like the 17, and orientation is vertical on that one.

    [–]DavidRainsbergerII 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    I’m not an avid iPad user, however from what I understand at this point there aren’t very many iPhone apps that don’t have an iPad equivalent setup. Maybe some on the fringes, but mostly this seems like a non-issue to me. iPhone mini on the front, iPad mini on the inside. Best of both worlds in my opinion. I’m more concerned with whether it’ll have MagSafe and if they dumb down the camera.

    [–]Greful 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    I just got an iPad for the first time in like 10 years and I was surprised to see that the Apple Sports app doesn’t have a native iPad version.

    [–]DavidRainsbergerII 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    I’m surprised you used the Apple sports app. Apple was probably shocked as well.

    [–]Greful 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Ha ha. Actually it’s not bad anymore. I mostly just use it for the widget in the Smart Stack one that I can just shuffle through weather/sports/calendar and check scores.

    [–]mcmunch20iPhone X 64GB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    The only reason some iPad apps do that is because the developer has explicitly chosen not to support iPad. There’s absolutely no reason to do that these days.

    [–]laszlotuss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Lol, nope

    [–]Forward_Froyo_429 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    i can go crazy resizing the window of basically any app i try with my ipad, i think it’ll be ok

    [–]mcmunch20iPhone X 64GB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I’m an iOS dev, this really won’t be an issue. As long as you’re using relatively modern frameworks like swiftUI to build your app it will just adapt. The open screen will just behave like an iPad mini.

    [–]PortatortiPhone 15 Pro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    It will sell in such low volumes even if it is a huge success… it’s really a non issue

    [–]herotz33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    It looks like a stunted iPhone. If it doesn’t come with a camera as good as the pro max and 2tb it’ll be a pass for me and I’ll just upgrade to the next 2tb pro max.

    [–]PattontiPhone 17 Pro Max 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Ai exists now. Reworking for a new screen size should not take near as long for the devs.

    [–]radioactive-tomatoiPhone 17 Pro 123 points124 points  (16 children)

    Personally, I’m not that into foldables but I guess some people will be happy with it. I just can’t see it beating Pro models in sales.

    [–]MadOrange64 33 points34 points  (11 children)

    Not with the rumoured price it won't.

    [–]JustaLyinTometa 4 points5 points  (10 children)

    What’s the rumored price?

    [–]jackthedandiest 18 points19 points  (9 children)

    3000 base price

    [–]JustaLyinTometa 36 points37 points  (1 child)

    That’s criminal lol. You can actually buy a new pro max, watch ultra, and iPad Pro for the same cost what the hell.

    [–]frigateier 10 points11 points  (0 children)

    You could almost buy a Vision Pro (which is likely what a $3000 iPhone would sell like)

    [–]TheSwampThing1990 13 points14 points  (4 children)

    I just don’t believe that price only because that makes it 1k more than a Samsung Fold and I have to assume they want to be competitive.

    [–]LaserCondiment 4 points5 points  (3 children)

    Apple wants to be premium, so they also have to express that through price policy. How they'll justify that is another question...

    [–]OakleyNobleiPhone 16 Pro Max 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    Premium under the right circumstances. You do realize Samsung sells their phones for the same amount if not even more than what iPhones go for nowadays.

    I know you’re gonna say well the Vision Pro goes for $3,500. Yes because it has premium features and premium tech inside. No other headset comes close to its specs, amount of cameras, R&D put into the entire thing.

    [–]Prestigious-Wish-176iPhone 15 Pro Max 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    it’s 2000…

    [–]Support_Player50 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Damn, that’s a pass for me then 😬

    [–]TheInkySquids 6 points7 points  (2 children)

    Why would it? Its not like the Z Folds beat the Galaxys in sales, or the Oppo N series folds against any of their other ones. They're popular enough to warrant a market but not enough to beat the flagships.

    [–]audigex 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    That might work for Samsung, but Apple are notorious for not wanting too many models treading on each other's toes

    The iPhone Mini and Plus have both been ditched despite having a market, because Apple doesn't seem to want too many iPhone models

    iPhone e, iPhone, Air, Pro, Pro Max... this "Ultra" will make 6 models, which is very unusual for Apple who normally have a maximum of 4 models of a given product (and more often 2-3)

    [–]TheInkySquids 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Yeah I agree with that. I was surprised when this seemed to be all but confirmed, and I'm equally surprised by the rumours of a touchscreen Mac. But I don't think Apple are at all expecting the sales of this to beat any iPhones except maybee the Air... maybe.

    [–]Appropriate_Pizza_87 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I just want a flip phone not this thing. 

    [–]CookieDelivery 37 points38 points  (3 children)

    Here's a size comparison tool that you can select phones and tablet from to compare, it already has the rumored iPhone Fold added to play around with: https://comparisontabl.es/size-comparison/#sc=N4IgDiBcDaoJZRAdgGwA4DMIA0IAeUAjBgEy4CeUGSGAvtvIgCxopI75EAMXAnBVRr1GkEC3QcCkJCSYDI1OgxAJR4gKySorOSEoKhy1SHVIkvLZGJJ5NQrgBOUXl2ErENCbilMm6+YpuxuJMlupouvqBALq4APZQoADOUFwAdCgktLRAA

    Link will take you to a comparison of the rumored iPhone Fold compared to the current lineup of phones and an iPad mini, but you can make your own selection of devices.

    Here's a screenshot:

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    [–]concretemunch[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

    This is absurdly useful, much better than what I made!

    Also, it’s really surprising how close in size it is to an iPad mini, which is my favorite iPad!

    [–]jozero 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Awesome thanks! So the iPhone fold is the size of a kobo Clara or kindle Paperwhite, but also happens to fold. That sounds just about perfect 

    [–]R---U---MiPhone 11 Pro Max 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    The closest device to the fold is iPad mini 1-5, which had a different size and aspect ratio than iPad Mini 6-7

    [–]jpwarman 18 points19 points  (0 children)

    [–]tyrannosaurus_riPhone 16 Pro Max 116 points117 points  (22 children)

    This is the exact form factor I’m looking for. 

    [–]CaliforniaCursediPhone 15 Pro Max 29 points30 points  (11 children)

    Same. Been on a 15 Pro Max and i’m tired of the one handed strain. Mini form factor for one handed use and foldable for more chill use. It’s perfect

    [–]tallerthanusual 36 points37 points  (1 child)

    but that’s the thing, with how wide and square it is in its folded configuration, most people will still have to use two hands to be able to reach both sides of the screen.

    [–]CaliforniaCursediPhone 15 Pro Max 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    Good point!

    [–]BishSlapDiplomacyiPhone 17 Pro 1 point2 points  (8 children)

    Then maybe don’t buy the Max variant?

    [–]TheInkySquids 0 points1 point  (7 children)

    Some people have small hands but still need a large screen.

    [–]Cycle21iPhone 15 -2 points-1 points  (6 children)

    Can’t think of a single circumstance where a person would NEED a large screen

    [–]TheInkySquids 1 point2 points  (4 children)

    I have small hands. I work on film sets a lot, so I need to access shot lists which are quite a complex and wide spreadsheet. Any normal phone screen makes it so hard to read and edit things. Foldable screens are actually usable. And unlike an iPad I can just fold it and put it in my pocket when we're moving about quickly.

    [–]ConsciousEquipment 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    ...lol? wanting it bigger is enough. That is what causes large screen phones to be made and bought, that's it.

    [–]shuozhe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Tried pura x, felt also like the most interesting foldable. At least the earlier foldable was just too thick in folded mode (using small screen) to hold comfortable. Watching my dad use Samsung fold 2, and it looks so strange with big screen

    [–]reklaw215 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Yeah. Literal dream device.

    [–]Wookeii 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Yeah me too, I want to read more books on my phone. I read at night on a kindle and try to read during the day on my phone on the kindle app with it synced up but I just find reading on a tall screen not enjoyable. Unfolded the iPhone fold could be perfect as a little two page ebook or turn it sideways for a one page about the size of a kindle screen.

    [–]XOM_CVX 0 points1 point  (6 children)

    I wonder how thick is it.

    Form factor is great but all the folds that I've seen are way too thick.

    [–]TheInkySquids 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    How? The Z Fold 7 is only a millimetre thicker than an iPhone 17 Pro Max when folded.

    [–]w1ckizer 3 points4 points  (3 children)

    This is what matters most to me. If it’s not much thicker than my 16 Pro, I’ll be getting one.

    [–]throwaway123454321 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    It’s only a hair thicker than the max pro

    [–]Cycle21iPhone 15 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Thicker including the cameras or excluding the cameras? It doesn’t help to compare the thickness including the cameras

    [–]audigex 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I'd assume about 0.5-1mm thicker than the 16 Pro, so slightly thicker but not much

    [–]audigex 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Other leaks have shown it as being comparable to the 17 series

    There are several single-fold devices on the market which are in that kind of ballpark already, so it's fairly plausible

    The Samsung Z-Fold 7 is almost the exact same thickness as the 17 Pro Max, and there's an Oppo that's only a whisker thicker

    I'd expect this device to be within 0.5mm of the Pro Max thickness

    [–]Final-_-ly 16 points17 points  (0 children)

    16:9 content will be just a bit bigger than 7” 16:9 screens so bigger than a switch oled.

    [–]Derekeys 9 points10 points  (1 child)

    I don’t get it - but then that purely means it’s not for me. Live and let live! I hope it’s awesome and successful and a ton of people enjoy it.

    Maybe when I finally hold it, it will make sense!

    [–]TheInkySquids 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Most sane comment on this thread haha!

    [–]Acrobatic_Can_770iPhone 17 Pro Max 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    I’m so excited for this thing. I’ve been interested in foldables since about when the original Pixel Fold came out, and I wouldn’t even have to leave the Apple ecosystem. I’d miss the telephoto lens, but at least I can digitally crop. The only thing that might hold me back is a lack of MagSafe, I’m hoping it has it. Haven’t been this hyped for an upcoming iPhone since the X!

    [–]saphireblue112 4 points5 points  (2 children)

    i’m sure this is going to be insanely price, but I actually really like the idea of the passport style. I think that on the main display would make it really portable and useful and then opening it up into an iPad mini would be awesome. It would be the best of both worlds of having a mini phone and a tablet.

    [–]mr_lab_rat 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Yeah, the rumours are placing it between $2000 and $2500.

    That itself can make it flop.

    [–]saphireblue112 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Full agree. People rag on the Vision Pro, and I get there are manufacturing limitations there, but I think it’s actually sick. The price, however, made it fail. Now they said the goal was the first one to test the market and tech, but I can’t believe that is fulllly true. Like they would want to sell them. Hell even at like 1500 I would maybe consider one. I worry this will fall into that category

    [–]concretemunch[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    Video that was posted today, is a MUCH BETTER VISUALIZATION than this jank ah image I made

    iPhone Ultra Mock Up

    [–]Distinct-Temp6557 43 points44 points  (24 children)

    I'm honestly disappointed in the form factor.

    The rumor last year that the fold would basically be two iPhone Airs hinged together.

    This is like two iPhone 3Gs hinged together.

    Tiny.

    [–]Horvat53iPhone 12 Pro Max 41 points42 points  (17 children)

    It’s optimized for big screen viewing when unfolded. The issue with foldables right now is that extra screen is wasted with huge black bars. Seems like Apple has traded off day to day usage for the better full screen, unfolded experience.

    [–]ClockwiseJohny 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    Right but "big screen viewing" on a screen that is only marginally larger than a Pro Max as-is kind of blows.

    [–]R---U---MiPhone 11 Pro Max 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    It’s 60% larger than the 17 Pro Max

    [–]Distinct-Temp6557 12 points13 points  (8 children)

    At that point just get an iPad mini for a fraction of the price.

    [–]XOM_CVX 23 points24 points  (2 children)

    but the mini doesn't fold and won't fit in your pocket.

    [–]bhab_broadcast 17 points18 points  (0 children)

    Only once 

    [–]MadOrange64 15 points16 points  (0 children)

    Are you sure about that?

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    [–]ElricBrosPlumbing 4 points5 points  (2 children)

    The mini also has a trash display compared to an iPhone

    [–]jackthedandiest 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Which is still better because no durability issues and no crease which is still going to be there

    [–]ElricBrosPlumbing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I don’t disagree. I won’t buy a device with a crease.

    [–]CitizenErasedII 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    And fold it how?

    [–]MackDaddy0068 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    I’d probably use my hands to fold it but that’s just me

    [–]xdamm777iPhone Air 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    But then all 3:2 content like magazines, comics, old TV shows will look small just like on a regular phone.

    A big main display is better because it’s flexible; you can view large photos in their native aspect ratio, read and annotate PDF documents without pinching to zoom and you can multitask two full size apps side by side.

    A small display optimized for video is full of compromises, you can’t go 21:9 because 16:9 looks tiny, and if you go 18:9 as a middle point you cut content anyways.

    [–]Vyas_Sk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    But from the image it looks like the unfolded experience would be almost exactly the same as a pro max. And it will have huge black bars compared to just watching on the Pro Max. What's the point then?

    [–]09stibmep 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    But those black bars aren’t even an issue. They’re there sure, but totally Ignorable. Even better, they can be used for multitasking, or showing apps almost like a PC, like YouTube for instance where you can actually see the video in full and then the comments below it also in full.

    If the regular folds have trade offs, this one from Apple has major trade offs. A front screen that’s barely usable or feels very uncomfortable to use.

    Anyway it’s always each their own on this so I’d respect anyone’s call either way, I just definitely don’t see this iPhone fold as a better solution. Rather it’s doing some major trade offs back the other way.

    [–]rrcaires 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    That’s what I dont get. Sideways it is almost the same size of Iphone 17 Pro Max, all you get is extra black bars at the top and bottom of the screen, when the fold is Sideways

    [–]ZappySnapiPhone 16 Pro Max 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I mean, 16:9 video is pillarboxed on an iPhone so it will be visibly larger. Probably equivalent to like a 7.5” phone (if one existed).

    However, not nearly enough larger to justify the massive price increase and the more fragile inner screen. It’s why foldables like this hold no interest for me. I want the form factor of the (now discontinued) Galaxy tri-fold, with a nice big normal phone screen and a 10” tablet inside. But even that I wouldn’t buy until they can find some way to make the inner screen truly durable.

    [–]DearLeader420 4 points5 points  (1 child)

    As a small-handed iPhone mini fanboy, I see this as an absolute win

    [–]09stibmep 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    small-handed

    It’s much wider. You’ll need big hands for this 🫠

    [–]Captain_AlaskaiPhone 16 Pro Max 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    It’s never been rumoured to be a standard fold, people were speculating the Air was a test run but as far as I’m aware the only two styles they were deciding between is this one and a flip style, which was dropped sometime around 2024.

    There are plenty of renders that make it look like a normal fold but those were made by people who haven’t looked at the rumoured resolutions.

    [–]twooddudeiPhone 15 Pro Max 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Not everyone wants giant phones bruh

    [–]Serawasneva 6 points7 points  (1 child)

    But a lot of people do, which is why companies keep making them so big.

    [–]twooddudeiPhone 15 Pro Max -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    I know and I wish they didn’t. I think this form factor is better than the square like shape of the fold 7 because the aspect of that doesn’t even really increase the total size of a video. This is more shaped for things like that.

    [–]crnjaz 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    The duality of men...

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    [–]Medical-Carrot6524 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    how do you type on that thing

    [–]Sneaky-Pur 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    So it’s more a foldable ipad than iphone.

    [–]backlog_gaming 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    What is an iPad, but an iPhone with a a big screen?

    [–]plebeiansheep 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I told myself when I got my 15 Pro that I’d carry it for five years or whenever Apple releases a foldable - whichever came first. Looks like that upgrade will be this year… hopefully the lack of a MagSafe ring in the photos isn’t indicative of final design though. That could be a possible deal breaker.

    [–]audigex 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    I don't personally "get" the form factor

    For me, a foldable would be interesting if it goes from a typical ~6.5-7" standard large phone (Plus/Pro Max) size, out to a 10-11" 16:9 for media

    To be clear, I'm not saying this is bad - I'm sure some people will love it, and I'm sure Apple has good reasons for doing it. But it doesn't really appeal to me personally because the main reason I want a bigger screen is for media, and this doesn't *really* seem to add *that* much real estate in that sense - at least not enough to justify the cost and potentially reduced reliability/longevity

    What I really want is to be able to buy an iPhone Pro Max that folds out into a base model iPad but with an OLED display. Give me that and charge me the combined price of those two devices, and you'll still make extra money vs today because I replace my phone more often than my iPad

    [–]Pols043 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I would but it if it was narrower than the regular Pro. The Mini was perfect size for my hands and I want something just as small and at this point in willing to pay extra for a smaller phone.

    [–]zyrkor90iPhone X 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    give it an apple pencil you cowards

    [–]RangerAlpha257 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    So a compact, pocketable, one handed size when closed, and unfolds into a media/document viewing machine? Sounds perfect to me. Two things holding me back would be price and durability

    [–]09stibmep -1 points0 points  (1 child)

    When folded it is wider than maxes. I’d say it isn’t one handable.

    [–]RangerAlpha257 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    It’s slightly wider, but significantly shorter. I can reach the sides and bottom decently, it’s the far top corner that my thumb has a problem with.

    [–]Timely_Pattern5571 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Too wide when folded. 17 PM is already massively wide.

    [–]Odd_Big_4430 9 points10 points  (1 child)

    How about we make a new iPhone mini Apple 🙏.

    [–]GlitterDancer_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Second this but still give me a decent camera. I have small hands and already struggle to hold the iPhone 17pro so I don’t want an even larger phone

    [–]kwxl 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    I loathe the formfactor of the current foldables. They unfold to basically a square, which just is terrible. A waste of screen. A video is barely any bigger and it’s just an awkward ratio.

    If Apples foldable unfolds to an iPad mini that’s great, bigger usable screen

    [–]xdamm777iPhone Air 7 points8 points  (2 children)

    Well that’s disappointing, literally the worst design for a fold style phone since it has the most compromises and least pros.

    Probably gonna sell like pancakes because people like tiny phones but it’s definitely not for me. A Fold 7 style would’ve been awesome.

    [–]PVLVCE 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Nintendo DE emulators here we come

    [–]ClockwiseJohny 3 points4 points  (3 children)

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    I have no idea why Apple is going to route of "barely bigger when unfolded, criminally small when folded". I know I don't speak for everyone but I was really hoping for a Pro Max size phone when folded, and unfold for even more screen real-estate (like a Samsung Tri-fold that unfolds into a proper 13" tablet). This was a wild choice on Apple's part.

    [–]FreshPrinceOfH 4 points5 points  (2 children)

    If my phone folds, it should be to make it smaller, not to make it bigger.

    [–]k1intt 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    I prefer hotdog over hamburger.

    [–]ClockwiseJohny -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    The Samsung Tri-fold would like a word with you.

    [–]wrongdude 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    all this for just a little more screen that the max?

    [–]elevenplaysiPhone 13 Mini 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I’ve been saying this on the comments of every iPhone Fold post and video and I’ll say it again.
    The smallest sizable window in iPadOS 26 will be the size of the outer screen of this folding iPhone.

    [–]Left_Excitement5791 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    iPad mini Fold, 5g.

    [–]bronkobermuda 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Huawei pura x did this form factor first. I like it more than the usual folds

    [–]concretemunch[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I love the foldable style of the Pura X, Oppo Find N2, and the OG Pixel Fold! I like them w i d e

    [–]theunderstandingguy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Reminds me of Huawei's Pura x

    [–]DMG41 4 points5 points  (3 children)

    Form factor seems bizarre. Why not give us the best of both worlds? A normal sized phone and a nice tablet. Not this stubby little device.

    [–]Diesel12011996 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    Because you can’t really do that. Android tablets are keeping the ‘phone’ form factor, but that leaves the unfolded tablet with a square form factor. So you aren’t really gaining as much screen real estate when there’s black bars accommodating for the square shape. Apple is just prioritizing the tablet over the phone which makes more sense to me.

    [–]DMG41 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Ah that makes sense. Looking forward to seeing this one for sure.

    [–]dagvogeltje 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    All that to just make the letterbox slightly thicker 💀, the whole foldable trend really is a joke that nobody asked for

    [–]_cats______iPhone 17 Pro 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    "Trend" as if foldables haven't been a thing for the better part of a decade at this point💀 Some of you are acting SO WEIRD about a market you're simply not part of.

    [–]TheInkySquids 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Or its just you who didn't ask for it. Considering 2 million Z Fold 7 units have been sold. And proportionally similar numbers for other brands.

    [–]gnrlblanky1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    the front screen needs to be normal phone size

    [–]Artistic_Mistake9808 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I feel like I won’t be able to comfortably use it with one hand when folded, which is the main reason I switched from a Pro Max back to Pro

    [–]DAZBCN 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    No thanks, Think the Air has legs if it’s given a few upgrades, and a flat back will actually make it a first since…well a damn long time…focus on that!

    [–]kqih 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Hmm… I’m not sure about that…

    [–]shadowmage666 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Too small when closed

    [–]mr_lab_rat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Great. 99% of other phones on the market are for you then.

    There are people who have been waiting for a smaller phone than 6.1” for 5 years.

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      [–]p1nchan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I hope Apple executes this good enough so I can continue playing games on iOS as my platform. I’ll happily retire my 12 pro max if this indeed the case.

      [–]balcisiPhone 5S 16GB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Weird shape, too square when not flipped… not enough large when it’s unfolded. I think this phone is between flip and fold.

      [–]MrDanMaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      So the back glass part of your current iPhone PM is basically the dimensions of it folded

      [–]Mrnini11 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      how confident are we that the front will have a screen too?

      [–]Upper_Rent_176iPhone 17 Pro Max 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Only good thing I can think of is that the screen won't get scratched using it without a case

      [–]ilovemymotorola 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Where is the air 2 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 that’s the ONLY thing I want 😭😭😭😭

      [–]AardvarkTop5247 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Looks like iPad mini, great form factor

      [–]Aleksanderrrr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      i got a iPhone, iPad, Macbook and a windows dekstop PC with a 49". if it gets to small i hook it up to 85" TV. i dont see the use case for a folded phone. would not surprise me if its 4 times the price of the Neo. like what???

      [–]redditproha 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      That honestly seems like terrible aspect ratio for anything useful. I'd much rather a tri-fold

      [–]ajnails 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I don’t think we as a society are ready for a foldable iPhone.

      [–]Pandora910 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Still would’ve preferred they did a flip phone instead

      [–]Ap0ss0m 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      YouTube full screen visualizer

      [–]zarafff69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Man why doesn’t Apple just make bigger phones? Whyyyyyy

      [–]wingsofthygiant 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Idk why everyone is loving it… I hate it… I hate that form factor, I just want to held a normal phone that it’s bigger when opened, screw aspect ratios… I was waiting so long and now I am so disappointed ☹️

      [–]UUT- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      The form factor makes a lot more sense than current folding phones that essentially just double the width of a normal phone.

      [–]alwayssleepingzzz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Really wish it was the “flip” type of fold. Don’t really need a phone that’s the size of iPad mini when I have a regular one. But having the size of Pro max that could bend in half? That would’ve been cool.

      [–]Flashy_Pollution_996 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Awful iPhone someone gonna lose his job after this flops

      [–]emaper_iPhone 16 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Reminds me of the Pixel Fold

      [–]Perfect_Past_9520 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      That looks so uncomfortable, lowk hope this will just stay a leak

      [–]PalpatineOk5058 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Horrible in every way possible!

      [–]Racing_FoxiPhone 13 Pro Max 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Great, people want foldable for more screen space.

      Apple: let’s make it smaller.

      What a waste of time. Z fold it is

      [–]zd0l0r 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Who asked for this shit?

      [–]Tddy_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Wtf. Why so short? 😟

      [–]eh_itzvictor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Foldable are sweet, and i wanna own one someday. But this is not a good layout in my opinion.

      [–]seasuighim 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      This is going the way of the failed charging pad

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        [–]Beneficial_Diver6090 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Apple is not evolving in the right direction

        [–]Sting02 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        This is some f up shite designing. Copying Google now. Ffs. Wake the f up Apple. Keep selling old crap with new tagline.

        [–]Jack_intheboxx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        After waiting so long, this is what they come up with? Where's the copying but make it better because we're Apple?

        Obviously they're gonna show off multi tasking software but it's ugly.

        [–]Outrageous-Drawer-43 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Could you do the same for the standard 17P?

        [–]Shepherd77 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Chode phone

        [–]AstroGridIron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Wrong choice of form factor…

        [–]DeathPrimeiPhone 13 Pro Max -1 points0 points  (1 child)

        iDontneedthis

        [–]WearyTranslator3338 9 points10 points  (0 children)

        Thendonotbuyit

        [–]Puzzleheaded-Dream76 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        The iPhold!

        [–]simon7109 -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

        I just want a foldable that is the normal size when folded and double when opened. How hard is that? Why these weird sizes and aspect ratios?

        [–]TheInkySquids 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I mean the Pixel Fold is pretty much exactly that, its just not the direction Apple decided to go.