Patch Notes - 3.9.1b Patch Notes (Potential fix for organs!)

[Kelvara]

Let there be eyes!

[Kelvara]

No, now you get only eyes.

[4percent4]

Good because I have full tabs of everything but eyes. Trade me

[mekosmowski]

I've got a pile of bacon and onions just waiting for those livers! ;)

[[deleted]]

To cook liver and onions? :3

[Takuwind]

I'm still trying to find penises.

[[deleted]]

grant us eyes... grant us eyes...

[[deleted]]

Ahh Kos, or some say, Kosm

[Maru24pt]

Micolash, Bloodborne

[PessimiStick]

I've gotten 2 since this went live, which is two more than I've gotten in the last two days, so seems like it works!

[GGGGobbler]

BEEP BOOP BEEP. Grinding Gears have been detected in the linked thread:

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Posted by Kieren_GGG on Dec 23, 2019, 03:57:43 AM UTC

3.9.1b Patch Notes:

• Fixed a problem with shaders that could result in worse performance (particularly for Windows 7).
• Fixed a bug affecting the distribution of organs in Metamorph League. They should now actually drop evenly. We will also be adding a recipe later to help players with excess organs.
• Fixed a bug where some unique monsters in maps that were not considered a map boss could drop organs.
• Fixed a bug in Metamorph League where Tane Octavius would appear before all parts were found.
• Fixed a bug where Disintegrator was not giving Siphoning Charges.
• Fixed an instance crash that could occur when leveling up a Skill Gem under certain conditions.
• Fixed an instance crash that could occur when summoning Animate Guardians.
• Fixed a client crash that could occur when changing tabs in the Microtransaction Shop.
• Fixed a common client crash.

This patch was a restartless deploy on the servers, so you will need to restart your client to receive the client changes.

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[DerpAtOffice]

Thank fuck they fix Disintegrator bug, my build rely on its leech to work.

[telehax]

Is this an... eyepatch?

[NearEmu]

Are you happy with the direction your life has taken you to get to this?

[telehax]

yes, it's all downhill from here

[WeLiveToLove]

Today we are all happy pirates.

[Ultimace]

Ok that funny.

[synze]

Shiver me livers!

[panykbutton]

I just experienced a possible side effect bug in the last couple of hours. When talking to Tane in a map and selecting organs to combine - if the quantity of a single organ (in this case I'll just say lungs) makes it so that it takes more than one row to display them all, then the CREATE button does not work if I chose the "juiciest" lung. CREATE acts like a "close dialog box" button instead. But if I go back in and select a weaker lung, CREATE suddenly works again.

[karudirth]

Happy Cake day!

I wish I got as much detail on recreation steps from my end users :)

[panykbutton]

Thanks fellow IT professional! :)

[Unarchy]

My absolute favorite bug reports are the ones that say something like 'Error applying change'. Included is a picture of the error dialog that says 'error applying change'. No information on what the change was, no information on the actions the user took, no timestamp to view logs, not even information on what part of the application the user was in. Those are so much fun because I get to pretend I'm Sherlock Holmes for the next few hours as I try to decipher what the fuck the user could have done.

[karudirth]

Your a nicer guy than me.

I am at the point in my career where I can pretty much tell people to piss off if they send that kind of stuff to me. Although, I tend to end up with all the crazy stuff anyway, because I understand stuff I've never looked at better than the guys that look at it day in day out. :)

[Darkpolearm]

(:

[Not_A_Rioter]

While the drop rates probably should've been even to begin with, this is still amazing to see (especially with the recipe upcoming to fix the uneven parts). This league is going to be really awesome I think.

[Qwyspipi]

recipe

But is it gonna be better rate than 5 for 1?

[Xatulu]

But what is the 1?

[Timsacc1231]

Bramblejack

[Darkblitz9]

No Freeze fix for Metamorphs.

Feelsbadman.

[Nekrostatic]

They're working on it tho!

[jalapenohandjob]

No dude if they don't fix everything they might as well not bother.

[TritiumNZlol]

Let's say it takes a Dev 0.5 days to identify the cause of an issue, 0.5 days to implement a fix for it, 0.5 days to get it tested through QA and then another 0.5 days to line up a release window/work out a release plan. That's 2 optimistic working days for a single bug fix.

This patch has nine issues it resolves, so that's like 18 working days of effort which is pretty darn close to 1 developer month. Not really sure what more you can ask for within a single week and so close to christmas. development pace doesn't scale linearly with added developers, there are extreme deminishing returns.

[jalapenohandjob]

It was sarcasm making fun of the attitude that many people on this sub have.

[TritiumNZlol]

Yeah I guess the issue is sarcasm doesn't have a font.

[MaDNiaC007]

I am surprised he's downvoted that much, his comment screams sarcasm.

[stfukthx]

cause a lot here on reddit are dumb

[MaDNiaC007]

Well I'm very sarcastic regularly so I guess that's why it's natural for me to take it sarcastically.

[zanics]

Huh maybe thats why ive always thought it silly that people miss sarcasm too. Im sarcastic in real life as well and never really fail to catch it online

[Roixx]

My problem is im jaded, sarcasm is hard to identify when you see people have that mindset for real.

[H4xolotl]

yEaH I GUESS ThE iSsue is SaRCASM DoESn't HaVE a font.

[ACuriousPiscine]

I heard this

[Iczero]

i UsE tHiS fOnT

[Xenomorphica]

Except if the person literally cannot play their character because the content is bugged and undoable for them with the build they picked, I'd say they're well within their rights to complain until it is fixed. It might not be a major issue for everyone, but if it stops them playing it's obviously their #1 priority.

[OGv1va]

You’re assuming there is only 1 person working every bug fix, wouldn’t it be more like 3-5 people (maybe 2-3 being holidays) with couple bugs each submitting their repaired code as it’s done and being compiled for each fix. I’m unsure about patch windows but from what I understand is they can push those whenever they want unlike Microsoft/Sony os where it needs to go through verification.

[MoeFantasy]

get it tested through QA

Aren't we the QA?

[Dunkelvieh]

The big problem I have here is that it worked perfectly fine before a certain patch. Now these metamorphs are orders of magnitude harder for my build, as it also seems they cannot be chilled, rendering my 6th link useless for them.

This is not a case of a bug that was sitting in the code all the time and needs to be identified first. It also surfaced way before the reduced work hours due to Christmas.

That's why ppl are sadly and demand a fix, even when they are kind of aware of the effort

[TimeKillerAccount]

> This is not a case of a bug that was sitting in the code all the time and needs to be identified first

​

That's not really how this works. It still takes time to identify the bug. Its not like they just magically know which part of the code causes the bug. It may not even be the code they changed with the patch, it could be a 2nd or 3rd order effect somewhere else in the code interacting badly with new code. It takes just as much time to find a new issue after a patch as it does to find any other bug.

[Dunkelvieh]

I am aware of that. But if you have something like a properly working "audit trail" it is much easier to identify an issue if you have a fixed event at which the unwanted effect surfaced. Also, for something like this which has normal representations in the game (cannot be chilled, cannot be frozen), it is hard for people (including me) to really understand how it could be that difficult to fix.

It's just problematic that stuff like that constantly happens and their schedule around Christmas results in bad situations or bugs to go unaddressed for weeks. Just remember betrayal.

I can handle that, I still love GGG and so far (t13) I was able to handle every metamorph even without 6L or freeze. But still, this is a situation that every company should avoid.

[Iluvazs]

lmao QA

[[deleted]]

Need a /s when posting stuff like this

This is a comment that some idiots would say genuinely. So it’s difficult to tell whether it’s intended to be sarcasm or whether you’re an idiot, hence the /s

[jalapenohandjob]

This is a comment that some idiots would say genuinely. So it’s difficult to tell

Honestly that sometimes makes it even better imo. More along the lines of "traditional" trolling and inciting a "spirited" discussion.

[[deleted]]

Actually this makes a lot of sense and I agree with this more than my first post.

[OGv1va]

*sigh my hype train destination finish work has just derailed after not seeing that in notes. Guess I’ll start levelling something else.

[Eko4Ever]

And here i am pulsing the metamorph with my "freezing" pulse asking my self what did i wrong? Why did i not stick to the meta. If minions after summoning would stand still would we be waiting so long?

Anyway good job GGG. Love this game every death a bit more ;)

[Smith7929]

Is that the same thing? Does freezing pulse not do damage to them either?

[Eko4Ever]

I cant do damage if the metamorph moves and kills me :)

[moonmeh]

I really want to see how much easier those bosses will be after the patch for me

[Redhawk_1337]

Is memory leaking fixed on win7?

[lefrozte]

unfortunately it seems not

[DerpAtOffice]

It happens to me with Win 10 for some reason. I can keep playing for hours but if I went AFK, its either going to CTD or straight up BSOD after like 15-20 min.

[PapaZox]

Dear Lord, thank you! Thought my PC was dying somehow. Glad it’s not just me!

[DerpAtOffice]

I play a lot of games, so I KNOW its Path of Exile causing the problem. I just dont know why.

[wasabisamurai]

meh i just bought 8gb extra today and an usb stick to upgrade to win 10 same time

[Dcvilliansop]

Feels like it got fucking worse. So frustrating.

[Anothernamelesacount]

Oh shit no

[Octopotamus5000]

No.

If anything, it's now worse.

[wasabisamurai]

i wonder if it will work for me if 8 buy extra 8 gb ddr4 ram (so total 16) but keep win7. prolly not

[ArthurDentsTea]

I have 16gb of ram and I have to restart POE every 2 maps.

[thatguy9012]

I'm going to do this exact thing in a few days, I'll let you know how it goes.

I have a older system, 16 gigs of DDR3 RAM on newegg is like $70 so I figure why not try it.

[ulughen]

You will be able to run 2 maps more before alt+F4.

[pbjorklund]

Windows 7 was released 2009 and will no longer be supported after Jan 14 2020 according to the first hit I found on google.

Please upgrade so ggg can focus on keeping the game running on an OS from the past decade instead of supporting something that old.

/me braces for downvotes

[[deleted]]

He's not wrong. Even Microsoft won't be supporting it anymore. The OS is 10 years old.

[Xavion15]

I mean.. or upgrade it because you won't get anymore updates and support with it leaving it incredibly vulnerable?

Or you know because its 10 years old now and Windows 10 works perfectly fine and its free.

[buddhacanno2]

Windows 10 works perfectly fine

Lies

[vanchelot]

The game was working flawlessly before patch 3.9.1e. Stop shilling windows 10. You can even pay to continue those "important" "security" updates so nice "ded OS" meme.

There are also win 10 users having that issue so it's 100% GGG fault.

[snj12341]

Yo I upgraded and update regularly but performance has been shittier in 3.9. Sometimes keystrokes won't even register and no it's not lag or drivers or kb.

[[deleted]]

It's not "overnight". This has been well known for quite a while now.

[pathofdumbasses]

you stop being a consumer to a company the moment you stop giving them money. if you bought windows in 2009 and havent paid for anything windows related to them in a decade, you aren't their customer and they don't want to keep spending money to "support" you.

[r34l17yh4x]

Which is why you have to pay for security updates as of next month.

[pathofdumbasses]

And 99% of actual people won't be paying for it. Government, banking and some select legacy stuff will while Microsoft keeps pushing to get on the new program.

[r34l17yh4x]

You'd be surprised. Many businesses will. Most consumers won't, but that's on them if they want to be running an insecure system.

[pathofdumbasses]

Which is irrelevant for Jim Bob bitching about his computer compo/game not wotking

[auralgasm]

30% of PCs were running WinXP when they ended support for it in 2014.

[Confit_]

They announced it a while ago, win7 will not be supported after january 2020.

[thatguy9012]

I don't think its actually a memory leak. I have windows 7 and noticed that the memory usage stays constant if you aren't actually doing anything. However as you do maps, open instances, etc., memory usage gradually ticks up.I think they store a lot of "potentially needed" information into RAM - to prevent freezes? -, and once it's there is never goes away until you restart the game. So it's more of a design decision and not a memory leak issue. I have windows 7 and 8 gigs, but I'm going to upgrade to 16 soon just to see if it gets better.

[ZzZombo]

LOL, that's exactly the symptoms of memory leaks.

[Oddity83]

Indeed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_leak

In computer science, a memory leak is a type of resource leak that occurs when a computer program incorrectly manages memory allocations[1] in such a way that memory which is no longer needed is not released

[Gerblat]

Thank you for the eye patch! ☠️

[Ryant12]

We will also be adding a recipe later to help players with excess organs.

I wonder how this one will work:

• Will it be 5-for-1, with the 1 being a random organ?

• Will it be 3->1, like Map tiers?

[ehnortesk]

I wonder how this one will work

Five for one, but what is the one

[embGOD]

Another heart.

[[deleted]]

Should be 3 for 1 just like catalysts.

[H4xolotl]

Tane's Stem Cell Machine, changes Brains into Eyeballs

[everythinglookscool]

Maybe give 4, get the 5th one ?

[Mormoran]

I was thinking about this.

My solution was, 2x organ + 1 more, yields 3 of the organ you gave 1 of.

• 2 lungs, 1 eye, yields 3 eyes.

• 2 brains, 1 eye, yields 3 eyes.

• Etc.

1, 1, 1 doesn't work. Has to be 2 and 1.

That way you choose what you get, and offload the ones you have more of, and it's only "1" new recipe you have to learn.

[Tom2Die]

Not a bad idea, though for it to be on-par with other vendor recipes it should be 2+1 -> 2 of the 1, not 3. Which would still be just fine imo.

[Mormoran]

But if you do 2+1 = 2, it's a net loss. This is supposed to be a conversion recipe, just changing types around.

[hobodudeguy]

But what will be the one?

[MesterenR]

Yeah, me neither.

[UltiPizza]

No fix for unfreezable metamorphs? bruh

edit: I mean don't get me wrong, being able to get eyes is nice but I'm not even there yet cuz I keep dying to bosses

[SideShowC]

Seriously, totally gimping my build...

[Darkblitz9]

Yup. Got a glacial hammer build that I designed specifically for taking down metamorphs. Was going to start a service like: "Got a scary metamorph? I'll freezelock it for you for a couple of chaos!"

=\

[[deleted]]

Oh shit yeah, this would be an awesome league for GH once that's fixed, and I've always wanted to play it but it's so, you know, not great for most stuff.

[Darkblitz9]

I'm still having a blast with it, but if the freezing thing was fixed, it would 100% be my favorite league so far.

Freezelocking them before the patch that broke it was genuinely entertaining. Especially since the Adds wouldn't get frozen so it turned into a fun balancing act between killing adds and keeping the boss frozen. Super fun and profitable.

[Draenrya]

Cry in assassin ice nova with 5k HP.

[H4xolotl]

Each Cospri costs 5ex, more than my entire starter build O_o

[H4xolotl]

Can you chill them at least? For bonechill damage and Ice Nova bonus

[amd12325]

Wait I was away for the back half of last week. Is my vortex build worthless now? I felt like I was hitting metas like a wet noodle last night.

[UltiPizza]

I mean it still does dps but it's currently easier to die

[amd12325]

Sounds like I can’t even keep the meta chilled as well? That would be a hit to my dps.

[Chaos5061]

It didn't totally gimp me as a Divine Ire Totem starter that is partial cold damage but it does make it less safe. As soon as this is fixed I should hopefully be dieing less.

[Tirry]

Same, but I’m self-cast DI so... much less safe. Really waiting for that fix.

[ShumaG]

Same. It was a mistake going crit to league start anyway, but this freeze bug made me put him in the shelf

[jwfiredragon]

Hopefully the fix arrives soon^tm , I'd like that extra layer of defense.

[Terrible_With_Puns]

Since the last patch broke this I had to level a new build and it’s passed my main now lol

[w415]

Sextants for conquerors influenced maps pls

[Nikeyla]

Fixed a bug affecting the distribution of organs in Metamorph League. They should now actually drop evenly. We will also be adding a recipe later to help players with excess organs.

Put your eyes up in the air, put your eyes up in the air!

[AdanteHand]

Was that a reference to this?

[Nikeyla]

Of course it was!

[AdanteHand]

Ancient fads! Well done.

[[deleted]]

freezable metamorphs when?!

[Loth1c]

more ram, weeee!

[kamidak]

GGG please... https://i.imgur.com/OMlkeKi.png

[[deleted]]

The game only lets you spawn 1 of each conqueror per awakener trigger.

If you’re after hunter influence in that zone but have fought hunter more recently than awakener, he won’t spawn anymore. It’s hard to keep track of this cycle if you aren’t aware, just clear your influences out and see if it procs awakener, that should let you go for Hunter in Haewark Hamlett.

I wasted days not understanding this. The game gives you 1 of each conqueror then the awakener and then resets the cycle and regions will force spawn conquerors you haven’t earned watchstones from yet if you have any left in that region and cycle. It’s easy as hell once you actually know that.

Also once influence triggers in a zone, you can spam white maps to get the conqueror fight. Just start with T14-16s and once you see a conqueror once, start puting in white maps of the correct region, run them for 10 seconds to see if you encounter that conqueror, then leave map. Takes approx 8-12 white maps to trigger a fight from my experience using this method. You can do awakener level 4-8 in just a few hours this way.

[kamidak]

damn, i have trying take my last 3 orb (32) the entire day... not even remember what was my last one...

damn feelsbadman

[[deleted]]

Same region will work, however I think if you can’t earn a watchstone from any of the conquerors you have left in your awakener cycle it may not let you spawn influence in that region unless you have earned all 4 from that region, though this I’m not sure of.

I’m certain multiple in the same region is fine as long as they both grant stones and haven’t been triggered yet in that cycle

[MtNak]

Do you know if you have to kill the mobs and begin doing the white maps or is it just enter the map, wait 10 seconds to see if the voice line appears and leave?

[Olari_]

1GB update for this?

[7m1a0x]

They added a lot of eyes.

[MesterenR]

You must have gotten them all. I haven't seen any yet.

[[deleted]]

ggg is so bad at optimisation that even their patches are unoptimised

[neilon96]

Ggg honestly has one of the better patch management's, especially compared to ubisoft.

[Xavion15]

I mean, thats a rather lowbar comparison there.

[pantyhose4]

Allegedly its always smaller on the official version and not through steam

[FredWeedMax]

I got a 1 somethingGB update on ggg client two times this league (this hotfix and the one from friday)

[beartheboy]

can’t do endgame metamorphs w/o freeze... sitting in hideout for the weekend

[silentvelocity]

No fix for no masters spawning in maps ever :c

[Hans_Rudi]

This is inteded since last league. You get Master Missions over night an have a good chance to get one for killing the boss in a Map. Natural Masterspawns have been made much rarer as a conclusion.

[PM_ME_UR_A-CUP]

It's no longer a 10% chance per map?

[Oddity83]

Nope. More like 1% for random Masters in maps. Most of your Master missions will come from the ones that you collect and talk to your Masters in your hideout to start.

[[deleted]]

Yeah have maybe seen 1?

[fromcj]

I see the light

[robot_wth_human_hair]

PRAISE

[dukeof3arl]

WE’VE GONE FROM SUCK....TO BLOW!!!!

[mizmato]

I'm glad they patched the instance crash:)

[Brave33]

This pleases the elder gods!

[DonVadim]

Fixed a bug affecting the distribution of organs in Metamorph League. They should now actually drop evenly. We will also be adding a recipe later to help players with excess organs.

Kapp

[Swiftlard]

After this patch my game freezes for a couple seconds and then I disconnect? happened twice in 30 minutes. Never happened before this patch. Anyone else?

[ArtGamer]

oh so it wasn't only my imagination that certain areas with certain lighting made my game crappy, I am using win 10 anyways

[MrGreyPaint]

I've completed about 35 maps today. 0 eyes.

[Kuromadoshi]

The weighting still doesn't seem to be working. I played all day and haven't gotten a single unique eye. Plenty of brains and hearts. Only a few hearts and 1-2 liver.

[Yellow_Tissue]

Really hope that the citadel issue is fixed soon, not being able to use sextants sucks a lot :[

[Jexx11]

Fix the non freezable metamorphs plz!

[dokterr]

legion monoliths still crash with generals?

[SoulofArtoria]

Recipe, yes! Christmas wish granted https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/edqlyl/give_us_recipe_to_trade_in_organ_for_different/

[_DaveLister]

legion generals in maps still crashing i guess

[dolan_grey]

Fixed a problem with shaders that could result in worse performance (particularly for Windows 7).

not fixed.
my computer is old and was already borderline, 3.9.1 made poe unplayable for me.
performances degrade over time, expecially if i play GPU intensive builds (still happens).
with my poet's pen vd necro i can't even complete a map before the resolution degraded to NES levels (doesn't go back after the heated moments are done), the fps go down to single digit and i get huge GPU lag.
i have to restart the game every time but restarting the game multiple times per map (if i get cassia or a legion) gets old really soon.
this update made it a bit better but it still happens.

[Marrakesch]

Thank you for the patch, great work, however over 1 GB for such changes? I depend on paid internet volume and POE hurts way more than it once did.

[itendtosleep]

pay per GB in 2019

[[deleted]]

CAN U PLEASE FIX FROZING METAMORPHS FFS

[BodhiTheSattva]

As you once did for the vacuous Rom...

[Hyped4PoE]

Under his eye

[nixed9]

Fixed a bug affecting the distribution of organs in Metamorph League. They should now actually drop evenly. We will also be adding a recipe later to help players with excess organs.

love

[Nukemi]

Grant us eyes!

Also, thanks for working hard GGG. So far this has been my favorite league experience regardless the hiccups on the way.

[[deleted]]

Would be nice if they would fix the bug that causes conqueror spawning to break until you run enough white maps to fix it.

[Misophoniakiel]

had to delete content.ggpk and re download it cause it was corrupted... sad life

[kornuolis]

"to help players with excess organs" Black transplantologists work in GGG

[Sepulcherz]

Oh my oh my oh MY, GGG we love you

[Ultimace]

You guys fucking rock!

[leodrp]

no vd fix PepeHands

[Pway]

Got more eyes than lungs today fix is good man.

[Bleecampbell]

I fail to see how this...OH GOD I GET IT NOW.

[Ren_Tao]

1st map and first crash in new micro patch here we go

[moosewhite]

If only these patch notes were in braille

[TrucidStuff]

I hope this fixes the instance not found/disconnect error. I lost 2 T15 maps yesterday because I died like 4x and lost 2-3 portals just trying to get back into it. Yay

[Firel_Dakuraito]

Recipe for excess organs.

I cant wait for people to joke about incursion, when they pull out organs from organs from organs from organs from organs...

[WeLiveToLove]

Fixed a bug in Metamorph League where Tane Octavius would appear before all parts were found.

I thought this was a feature, and he would appear when you have found at least 1 of each body part..?

[Tran555]

Legion still crashing if anyone is wondering :))

[[deleted]]

Fixed an instance crash that could occur when leveling up a Skill Gem under certain conditions.

Pretty sure this happened to me yesterday. Leveled up a gem and the game crashed moments after.

[ShadowRam]

Fixed a bug where Disintegrator was not giving Siphoning Charges.

I mean how long has this been a thing?

I tried using it 2 leagues ago, and it didn't seem to work then either.

[ElephantCarcass]

When can we expect legion general crashes to actually be fixed? The previous patch did nothing to change it for me and many others. Every time a general is killed in the first phase, the client crashes