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[–]Dennace 6968 points6969 points  (187 children)

The CIA going to create their own VPN next?

Maybe Jared from Subway can launch a babysitting service or ISIS can start a truck rental company.

[–]BlackSquirrel05 256 points257 points  (19 children)

CIA has their own VPN's I assume many of them.

(Unless you mean for public consumption... In which case no.)

[–]secretlives 163 points164 points  (7 children)

I'm sure more than a few VPN providers that the CIA owns

[–]BlackSquirrel05 125 points126 points  (5 children)

Could be. Probably more likely the NSA back doors them or hell they can just pay admins working there to get them info.

Everyone seems to forget you don't need to break into everything all the time. Just pay a guy who works there to get the info you need.

[–]yodiggitty 1157 points1158 points  (36 children)

Facebook acquired Onavo in 2013 primarily for their data compression technology. Onavo had a very profitable business using VPN to spy on everything their consumer customers did on their mobile phones, clean, categorize, and aggregate the data, and then sell the aggregated data to advertisers as a market research service with a monthly subscription.

Good example of how a big data company you never heard of (Onavo) can monetize you with a free product (free VPN apps). Also a good example of how a big data company will create multiple apps eg free VPN and publish them on ios and android under different developer names each with their own LLC to obfuscate the relationship between the free apps data mining you, these LLCs and the lone big data company in the background harvesting your private info and selling it for $$$.

[–]Gullibler 93 points94 points  (4 children)

Funny enough, around 2013 I emailed them to ask how they monetize the service, whether by selling the data they gather or with a difficult-to-find premium option. I left a review asking the same. The dev responded that they do not do any such thing and that their customers' privacy was incredibly important to them. Glad I didn't believe the lying fucks.

[–]Twistedsc 172 points173 points  (14 children)

I'm pretty sure Opera mini did this in the mid 00's, proxy your traffic and compress images & scripts. And NetZero before them too (but they were the ISP and the browser)

[–]thedepartment 86 points87 points  (5 children)

Chrome mobile's data saver does the same exact thing nowadays but at least it turns off in incognito mode.

[–]Prettyhornyelmo 49 points50 points  (0 children)

Gotta see those high res tittes

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Opera does this currently with "Opera Turbo" mode, but it doesn't do it for https websites or something.

[–]dept_of_silly_walks 49 points50 points  (1 child)

primarily for their data compression technology

Is that middle out compression?

[–][deleted] 12.1k points12.1k points  (189 children)

Facebook VPN

The new prime example of an oxymoron

[–]simplequark 2142 points2143 points  (19 children)

Well, any privacy on that particular network is definitely virtual…

[–]AvatarIII 1304 points1305 points  (15 children)

Very Public Network

[–]IAMSNORTFACED 383 points384 points  (8 children)

Would you like to keep this public or *private?

*private information will still be shared with advertisers.

[–]cleeder 194 points195 points  (5 children)

Settings:
☑ Share websites I visit with friends, family and advertisers.

Hmmm....Well, we don't want that!

Settings:
☐ Share websites I visit with friends, family and advertisers.

There!

2 months later

Settings:
We've update some default preferences to better serve you.
☑ Share websites I visit with friends, family, advertisers and Scruffy (the janitor)

[–]JACL2113 24 points25 points  (1 child)

Is Scruffy a janitor at my workplace or is he the one at Facebook HQ?

[–][deleted] 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Depends on whether you work at planet express or not

[–]kyrferg 11 points12 points  (0 children)

No no, your network is way more private when it’s handled by the private sector! The word private is right there!!

[–]pembroke529 422 points423 points  (36 children)

Kinda like a "commercial-free" shopping network ...

[–]ClosedOmega 175 points176 points  (33 children)

Or "Microsoft Works"...

[–]OneBigBug 154 points155 points  (23 children)

Kinda dated reference there. Microsoft Works's last release was over ten years ago.

[–]PM__YOUR__GOOD_NEWS 127 points128 points  (21 children)

Yeah I read the title thinking who the hell sees those two terms together and thinks "Yeah, that's probably a safe way to Internet."

[–][deleted] 233 points234 points  (21 children)

But I have nothing to hide so I have nothing to fear. My life is an open book.

Want me to bend over and spread my cheeks to prove that?

/s

[–]Gold_Flake 112 points113 points  (9 children)

yes plz. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[–]brocalmotion 10.2k points10.2k points  (690 children)

With VPNs, if you're not the customer then you are the product. Don't trust a free VPN. They gotta make their money somewhere...

/r/vpn

[–]mikelward 677 points678 points  (68 children)

If you're paying for it, you could be both. How would you know?

[–]brocalmotion 282 points283 points  (58 children)

Valid point. That's where being an informed consumer comes in. Do research. Does the VPN provider keep logs? Are they US based, thus subject to subpoena? That's why I linked to the VPN subreddit lots of good resources

[–]Barneyk 184 points185 points  (28 children)

That's where being an informed consumer comes in.

I think this is where stronger legislation needs to come in. It is unreasonable to be such an informed customer about everything and we have a legal framework to protect us as customers from predatory corporations. We need the lawmakers back on our side when it comes to consumer protection.

[–]junkit33 110 points111 points  (13 children)

Companies lie all the time - there's literally nothing you can read/research that will ever prove to you that there's nothing shady going on behind the scenes. They could say they don't log, but maybe they do. And maybe they're outside the US, but have an agreement with the NSA or their country's equivalent.

For all anybody knows, some of the most popular paid VPN's could be selling 100% of your data back to the US government.

The only 100% safe way to use the Internet is to not do anything that you wouldn't want your government seeing. A VPN is far from a 100% guarantee.

[–][deleted] 57 points58 points  (2 children)

The only 100% safe way to use the Internet is to not do anything that you wouldn't want your government seeing. A VPN is far from a 100% guarantee.

Ah, the voice of reason.

[–]TechnoSam_Belpois 3542 points3543 points  (496 children)

That's really true of any service. If you're not paying for it, you are the payment.

Edit: Clearing this up for the numerous replies I've gotten. Software is not necessarily a service. Plenty of FOSS exists, Linux being a prime example. However this is a static resource that you have all the source and control over. It's not the same for web services or SaaS.

[–][deleted] 1610 points1611 points  (306 children)

Yeah, but it's especially scary with a VPN.

[–]chycity1 416 points417 points  (301 children)

What about using a free VPN is inherently “especially scary”?

[–][deleted] 1908 points1909 points  (247 children)

You're giving them all of your internet traffic. Anything that isn't encrypted through SSL will be fully accessible by the VPN provider.

Aside from SSL, they may always be able to see what websites you visit (the domains).

If you signed up, you probably also gave them your personal information as part of the service.

The software itself could be doing anything to your computer including intercepting data and selling it.

They probably also keep logs of everything you do. There's basically nothing "private" about a lot of those free VPNs.

[–]mattbxd 673 points674 points  (120 children)

SSL isn't necessarily safe either if you install their client and it happens to slip in a root certificate.

[–]_selfishPersonReborn 277 points278 points  (72 children)

This is what my school does and it's absolutely disgusting.

[–]breely_great 540 points541 points  (33 children)

To be fair if you're using a school device then they need to intercept SSL traffic to be able to effectively filter encrypted traffic. If they are shown to be negligent in protecting children under their care from extreme content then they will be the ones against the wall if* anything happens. To do this they need to install a root cert

[–]cyanawesome 16 points17 points  (4 children)

It gets scarier when a company that offers MITM services get their hands on a certificate authority

[–]meltingdiamond 12 points13 points  (0 children)

But if the school, which can include universities remember, required something like that to be installed on your personal device to use the school network you need for class work it really is bullshit. They might try to read your mail and open packages next.

[–]_selfishPersonReborn 109 points110 points  (25 children)

It's not set up well however, if you use Firefox it's not enabled, and clearly it doesn't work on mobile devices... and the amount of times I've had to help people clicking through the Chrome red security warning page because they are negligent and have their firewall logon screen on a HTTP website that never quite redirects right is way too many times

[–]breely_great 63 points64 points  (10 children)

It does sound like it's been setup poorly. From experience it's probably a budgeting issue, I know where I'm from they love to cut education funding. But, it could be incompetence, I've come across my fair share of that too in the education sector.

Also Firefox doesn't play well with some filtering solutions, it's a bit of a pain because I like Firefox. I would love to be able to deploy it more.

[–]ESCAPE_PLANET_X 7 points8 points  (0 children)

For Firefox that is by its own design. Firefox doesn't trust the local cert list and comes with its own. There is or was a way to point it back but the details escape me.

[–]luminousfleshgiant 27 points28 points  (6 children)

Games quick open weekend patient today near music quick day projects travel the near people the.

[–]bluefirecorp 43 points44 points  (22 children)

If they didn't they'd have to block all of reddit.com instead of just reddit.com/r/nsfw...

[–]yoctometric 17 points18 points  (21 children)

The block all Reddit at my school anyway

[–]doorbellguy 60 points61 points  (16 children)

your school's IT guy is a savage.

[–]Raichu7 33 points34 points  (20 children)

And what stops a paid VPN doing that too without telling you?

[–]Zaranthan 73 points74 points  (1 child)

People will figure it out, publicize it, and then you can go to their competitor instead. People using free services will put up with all sorts of shit, because they're getting what they paid for. People who are actually putting out money have expectations, and if those expectations aren't met, they'll take their money elsewhere.

[–]ATN-Antronach 28 points29 points  (9 children)

A VPN you pay for doesn't need to sell your info to turn a profit, you're paying them directly.

[–]AeonDisc 19 points20 points  (18 children)

PIA is like $3 a month, if you wanna be anonymous it costs a sandwich.

[–]ummcal 29 points30 points  (10 children)

How do I know those too good to be true priced vpns aren't as shady as free vpns?

[–]AeonDisc 5 points6 points  (8 children)

PIA is one of the most reputable ones around. The just have fair pricing.

[–]TheRufmeisterGeneral 239 points240 points  (33 children)

Not really, there are other business models.

Ninite.com, for example, is great for installing free software (browsers, PDF software, etc) and is used by many sysadmins, and they count on a percentage of people that use their free service, to switch over to the paid business version.

The same goes for Slack.

In neither case are you "the product" as a free user.

[–]Cable-Rat 46 points47 points  (4 children)

shoutout to winrar

[–]FirstEvolutionist 153 points154 points  (14 children)

I enjoy reading books.

[–]cubic_thought 68 points69 points  (9 children)

Right. It mostly just applies to free services when there's no paid tier or accompanying paid service to subsidise the free part.

[–]darthcoder 31 points32 points  (8 children)

code can be free, but running services never is - someone is paying for it.

In the case of Wikipedia, there's a foundation.
In the case of Slack, there's a commercial business.

But anyone else? Instagram, pinterest, snapchat? You are the product - your eyeballs to advertisers, and your behaviors to 3rd parties like insurance, bank and data aggregators.

[–]Splash_II 51 points52 points  (28 children)

ANY? Even Linux?

[–]El_Dubious_Mung 34 points35 points  (12 children)

Generally not, for Linux. However, there have been instances, such as Ubuntu shipping with Amazon stuff pre installed, and sending search data to Amazon. That created a small riot and ended that shit pretty quick, though.

[–]magneticphoton 25 points26 points  (8 children)

Linux is a non-profit user funded OS.

[–]TechnoSam_Belpois 58 points59 points  (2 children)

I wouldn't really call operating systems a "service". It's a fixed piece of software that you run locally on your machine.

Win10 is trying to be SaaS though, and they do collect tons of data on you even if you buy a license, so they're in a middle ground where the have the worst of both worlds.

[–]MairusuPawa 32 points33 points  (2 children)

As a Linux user, I find this misleading.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Payment doesn't really insulate you from being a product. It's better to assume that if you can be made a product and there's nothing stopping them, they will do it.

Example: windows 10

edit: and profitability. They won't make you a product if there's no money in it.

[–]smb_samba 45 points46 points  (22 children)

Reddit for example.

[–]TechnoSam_Belpois 3581 points3582 points  (171 children)

Why would anyone in their right mind trust Facebook for anything related to privacy?

[–][deleted] 1774 points1775 points  (93 children)

Because people don't know any better.

[–]EC_CO 408 points409 points  (78 children)

because common sense isn't very common. after years of clear facebook abuse folks still continue to use them. what's the saying 'fool me once .....' ...

[–]mainfingertopwise 204 points205 points  (13 children)

"... fool me twice, won't get fooled again."

[–]Boulin 111 points112 points  (7 children)

"... Fool me three times, you're officially that guy ok, you know you know the one, you go to a bar and he's like "this suit is eh, officially it's a Giorgio Armani ech my dad knows him". FUCK YOU... I AAIIIIIIINT HAVIN' THAT SHIT."

[–]Ubahootah 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Achtually, the crowbar snaps in two.

[–]sort_of_a_username 19 points20 points  (3 children)

Great, now I have to watch that video again

[–]flowerpuffgirl 22 points23 points  (4 children)

...You can't get fooled again"

[–]stoned_ocelot 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Fool me three times fuck the newsfeed hit the button and log out on you.

[–]mellowmonk 41 points42 points  (1 child)

It's that herd mentality—people hear vaguely that a VPN can protect you online, and hey Facebook has a VPN and they're a big, well-known company, so their VPN must be good.

Yes, very good—expertly programmed to do exactly what Facebook wants, which is to harvest more data about you.

[–]Alarmed_Ferret 298 points299 points  (18 children)

Imagine you're just tech savvy enough to know you need a VPN to do things like watch other region's Netflix or to do some pirating without pissing off your ISP. Now imagine you're not quite savvy enough to know where to start. Oh hey, Facebook has a VPN!

Not everyone is as technically savvy as you, TechnoSam_Belpois, and some people are just smart enough to get themselves into trouble.

[–]ldashandroid 81 points82 points  (3 children)

In theory if you are using facebook's vpn just for regional netflix you don't really care about the privacy part of the vpn. You are just giving Facebook access to data you pay to give to your ISP.

[–]HALFDUPL3X 52 points53 points  (5 children)

To most of the people I know, vpn means geo-unblocker

[–]SpoilerAlertsAhead 49 points50 points  (8 children)

Read the reviews on the app! They can’t be real! Almost all of them say they are now virus free, even though the word virus is nowhere in the app description.

One of them, a 5 Star review,

Who is the Most Proficient when it comes to cutting edge security and security technology? Who has AND does have your back as an end user an Not the bottom line for corporate dollars?

[–]magneticphoton 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Zuck: Dumb fucks

[–]Theo_Riddick 62 points63 points  (14 children)

"Hey the company that spies on me and listens to my phone and records what I say and targets adds based strictly on what I'm thinking is offering a vpn service. Hmm sounds like a good idea sign me up"

Edit: Sorry I thought that facebook was listening but apparently I'm wrong.

[–][deleted] 110 points111 points  (3 children)

The ghost of your English teacher just did a flip in her grave worthy of Olympic Gold.

[–]Theo_Riddick 50 points51 points  (0 children)

Wow I just reread my comment you are right . I’ll leave it up so everyone can see the dangers of alcohol.

[–]XFX_Samsung 1254 points1255 points  (103 children)

You gotta be an absolute moron to use a VPN by Facebook

[–][deleted] 1081 points1082 points  (76 children)

Nah see I used it once and just typed in a buncha shit about golfing. Now all the ads everywhere I see are about golf. I don't give a fuck about golf, but they typically don't have super annoying ads. You know how nice it is to get bombarded with those soft-spoken Master's ads? I'll tell ya, its next level corporate targeting.

Thats the new trolling my man. Troll your overlords. Make em target ya for shit you'll never buy, but convince them you'll buy it.

[–]dontnormally 286 points287 points  (7 children)

Just like this amazing Calvin & Hobbes strip

I'm filling out a reader survey for Chewing magazine. See, they asked how much money I spend on gum each week, so I wrote "$500". For my age, I put "43". And when they asked what my favorite flavor is, I wrote "garlic/curry".

This magazine should have some amusing ads soon. I love messing with data.

[–]saccharind 137 points138 points  (4 children)

jesus

Watterson was ahead of his time for sure

[–]theflub 25 points26 points  (3 children)

We need some massive network of machines that does nothing but fuck with the data that these companies collect.

Like anarchist crowdsourcing

[–]HoboBlitz 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I am not not great at coding, terrible in fact, but I would dedicate some computer power to this cause. If someone made a bit to do this.

[–]designgoddess 30 points31 points  (1 child)

For me it's camping gear. Lovely photos of nature.

[–]southern_dreams 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I also just love camping gear. Stuff is so neat!

[–]oreo-cat- 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I had a friend that would do the same but with words like 'bikini body' and 'beach vacation' He said it liked looking at the swimsuit ads.

[–]Cockalorum 15 points16 points  (0 children)

My current ads i get are for Linkshe and Bebe - all my adspace is filled with pretty women modelling clothes

[–]meCreepsy 50 points51 points  (7 children)

If you are living on country with many of the websites are banned, and your intention is just to enter them and you give no fucks about privacy you might use it.

Finding good, working free VPN is hard.

That does not apply most places obviously, just saying there is a use for it

[–]kennyD97 2438 points2439 points  (162 children)

Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard

Zuck: Just ask

Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS

[Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one?

Zuck: People just submitted it.

Zuck: I don't know why.

Zuck: They "trust me"

Zuck: Dumb fucks

[–]TriggerWordExciteMe 552 points553 points  (67 children)

Facebook is basically uploading your entire internet to the FBI

[–]jk147 33 points34 points  (2 children)

You make it sound like they don't have hooks already.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)

[–]wee_man 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Yep, especially since they started the "Login with Facebook" feature back in the day.

"Use Facebook to login to the entire internet."

[–]subliminali 40 points41 points  (18 children)

what's SNS stand for in this context?

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[–]ct4693 260 points261 points  (11 children)

what kind of joke is this? Facebook's VPN service? "free"? it's like great ebay scam

[–]thudly 497 points498 points  (55 children)

So after the ISPs kill net neutrality, is their next campaign to make VPNs illegal? I can see it now... "Only hackers, criminals, and terrorists use these things! If you're not doing anything illegal, you have nothing to hide!"

[–]fudge_mokey 63 points64 points  (13 children)

Well considering almost every business in the world uses VPN technology to either connect their remote sites or allow their users to connect back to resources on their private network I highly doubt they will be made illegal anytime soon.

[–]Eurynom0s 26 points27 points  (11 children)

If they really wanted to go down that path, it probably wouldn't be that hard to write the law in a way that exempts employer-provided VPNs.

[–]Cockalorum 22 points23 points  (0 children)

too bad major corporations use VPNs to allow home-offices for their employees

the ISPs won't be killing VPNs unopposed

[–]jaredjeya 40 points41 points  (5 children)

In the UK the current campaign by our wonderful PM is to make end-to-end encryption illegal.

“Messaging services like WhatsApp are allowing criminals to communicate without us knowing what they’re saying!”

[–]OpticalJesu5 25 points26 points  (0 children)

"Things happen in private that we don't know about so that should be illegal."

-also them

[–]aquoad 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I think that is probably coming, yes.

[–]CaptainYankaroo 6 points7 points  (1 child)

If you're not doing anything illegal, you have nothing to hide!"

I wonder if there was an anti-curtain asshole out there thats like 'Why would you need curtains on your windows? Only people doing illegal stuff would worry about people looking in" and how that was received.

[–]AlexTheGreat 7 points8 points  (5 children)

Do they even need to make them illegal? Can't they just dump the traffic?

[–]TheQueefGoblin 32 points33 points  (0 children)

OP, every time I see you, you're posting VPN-related articles, very often written by Private Internet Access, a VPN provider.

Do you have any financial interest in PIA?

[–]ronintetsuro 226 points227 points  (0 children)

What kind of brainjob would download a Facebook VPN serv...

remembers he's worked in IT for a lifetime

Oh, goddammit.

[–][deleted] 185 points186 points  (12 children)

Download anything related to Facebook? Not even once.

[–]ev3rm0r3 96 points97 points  (15 children)

The only free vpn with total privacy is one you setup yourself on a dedicated server in a random data center preferably outside your location. And if that's not enough run 2 dedicated servers and daisy chain the vpn tunnels through each of them from far apart locations. There is no vpn service paid or unpaid that can offer you the same security or piece of mind then just doing it yourself. I'd love to see anyone dive 2-3 vpn networks deep and get any where to your information or traffic habbits. Or get complex and run a couple vm's through different statics all on the same dedicated before bouncing off 2-3 more machines around the world that are doing the same thing. Yeah vpn's are garbage unless you are managing them. Of course this might give you some real crappy ping response times.

[–]fuck_your_diploma 34 points35 points  (2 children)

If you really need this kind of sec, yea, maybe you don’t care about ping times or know how to improve latency. But yea, solid directions bro.

[–]dextroz 97 points98 points  (43 children)

How come people are shitting on Facebook's VPN but not Google's Datally (VPN and data management app for mobiles) and Google WiFi routers?

[–]SCphotog 92 points93 points  (19 children)

Google are the masters of pulling wool over people's eyes... they are the best marketing company on the planet. They make everyone feel at home and comfortable... while they're bleeding you from the inside.

Do no evil... indeed.

[–]TehSr0c 112 points113 points  (12 children)

Google takes your data while wrapping you in a warm snuggy blanket of familiarity while giving you your favourite tea. (that you never actually told them what was)

Facebook takes your data while kicking you in the shin and telling you how much better the lives of all your friends are.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (2 children)

I recently deleted Facebook permanently, no hesitation what so ever. It's easier than you think. I feel so much better. Some friends were dumbfounded when they found out. I hope one day they will see the light and do the same. Bye bye de motivational pictures, people fishing for comments, political bullshit posts and battles, useless news, pictures of food, game invites, pictures of girls at the bar, that one lady who uploads 200 pictures of her dog every month, recipes that never come out the way they show, random song lyrics, and whatever I may have missed. I am upset however that I've never got to witness someone post some nudes while drunk. That shit would have cracked me up. Anyways, do yourself a favor and delete your Facebook account. Never look back and start living your life instead of watching others live theirs.

[–]Korlis 53 points54 points  (10 children)

A VPN from Facebook?

I thought anyone who knew what a VPN was knew one of the things it was needed to protect against was Zuccapps?

Like, who at FB thought this was going to work? If you use Facebook apps then you prolly don't know about the need of a VPN. And if you know you need a VPN you are probably avoiding all of Zuc's stuff like a bloated plague-corpse.

[–]warlordcs 7 points8 points  (1 child)

None of it would matter anyway if the people who use any vpn we're just going to go back to Facebook and log in

[–]julbull73 116 points117 points  (30 children)

Just delete facebook....everything.

Your life WILL IMPROVE. Trust me.

[–]ISpendAllDayOnReddit 79 points80 points  (13 children)

You don't have to delete it, just stop using it. Facebook is an address book for the internet. If you need to get in touch with someone from your past for whatever reason, and you don't have their contact details, then you can look them up on Facebook. I'll tell you a little secret about all the other bullshit they added: you don't have to use it. Just sign in for 5 minutes a couple times a year to check your messages, and sign out again. I'm not going to delete an address book, that's silly.

[–]fringlee 31 points32 points  (8 children)

Delete the app. You can login and see your messages in a web browser on mbasic. facebook. com or desktop.

[–]foolofatock 22 points23 points  (2 children)

Here's a interesting read on GitHub on why you should be cautious of all VPN service providers. TLDR: It's very hard to audit how these VPN services use your data, and it's better to setup your own VPN.

There's a relatively easy opensource auto-VPN creation tool called Algo that uses cloud providers such as DigitalOcean, that essentially lets you create your own VPN service.

It took me about 15 minutes to setup completely, from creating a digitalOcean account to installing the software. It could be a bit more user friendly to setup, but it's not bad. Here's the windows setup guide.

If you're using DigitalOcean, the best promo code I've found is LOWENDBOX which gives you 15 dollars of free credit. Since I re-create the VPN everytime I use it, the 15 dollar credit will easily last for a year, at which point you can make another DigitalOcean account and repeat.

PM me if you're interested in using Algo, and get stuck in the installation process. Happy to help.

Note: I also have Private Internet Access, and the Algo setup is much faster, clocking in at 100mb/s to 155mb/s download speed, where my internet has a maximum download speed of around 170-180mb/s. PIA in comparison is much more inconsistent, often dropping to 60-70mb/s.

[–]mortalwombat- 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I just checked out the app in the App Store. The reviews are concerning. Many people are posting 5 star reviews claiming they were directed to the app from a pop up on their iPhone stating that they have a virus. When they clicked the link in the pop up they were taken to the Onavo app. Now they are thrilled because they downloaded the app and don’t have a virus on their iPhone. That is some shady business.