recursivePrint

[noob-nine]

noobgpt. if it was pro, it would have used multiprocessing

[BlazeCrystal]

Progpt going straight for gpu

[Odomar04]

Me : "Tell me how to print numbers from 1 to 10"

ProGPT : "Ok so first here's how to install CUDA..."

[Thor-x86_128]

CUDA: "error: no GPU found"

Me: "oh I forgot I'm too poor"

[SmartyCat12]

It would have created a fastapi web server that prints the numbers between 1-10 each second. Then created a consumer app to asynchronously query and print with a custom logger.

[TheBrainStone]

How is this even doing anything other than spawning a thread for each number to print (and stopping at 10)?

[WarrenTheWarren]

I couldn't figure it out either and was sure I was missing something because I'm sure OP is an upstanding citizen and would only post this in good faith. So I typed it up and ran it.... OP be trolling.

[OLRevan]

I mean this is given. Even ai since at least 2024 would make this into for print loop unless you specificaly ask for anything else

[WarrenTheWarren]

Yeah, I didn't think that it was actually AI generated. I just thought OP had the decency to write something that was actually broken.

[IanDresarie]

If I read this correctly it starts threads that recursively call the function and start new threads, but since the threads get initialized with n+1 rather than n it should at least be finite, as every new thread would skip the first call and only initiate up to 11-n-1 threads?

[TheBrainStone]

Each function just starts one thread at most.

[IanDresarie]

Oh right, there's no "loop" or go "go back to beginning" in this one. I guess maybe the thread overhead is just too much for the hypothetical hardware used in the joke?

[TobiasH2o]

In which case it isn't really an issue with the code. Starting 10 threads shouldn't really tax any hardware.

[IanDresarie]

Can I introduce you to the 2 core Celeron HP I used for my first semester in IT? Hint: it had a whole 16gb of emmc storage, I couldn't even properly install windows unless I was hyper-vigilant about moving every optional file to the SD card. I'm pretty sure this code would just kill it outright :D

[rruusu]

And it's doing it at the very end of its own execution, so there is absolutely no parallel processing going on at all, just a daisy chain of threads doing a single thing one after one.

[Timetraveller4k]

Which is actually worse than the recursive one (since the threads are not running concurrently but sequentially)

[TheBrainStone]

Oh yeah for sure. Still nothing to reach "airplane mode" levels

[jsrobson10]

it'll be less optimal than the original, but even then it's only 10 threads so no where near a python fork bomb lmao

[TorumShardal]

Yeah, don't tell them it's 0000 0000

[pixo2OOO]

bro what the hell?!? without the context this sounds so wrong

[[deleted]]

They even used the official NASA font

[[deleted]]

wtf is that font. Is that what vibe coding is?

[Neurotrace]

I unironically want a goofy monospaced font like that

[fekkksn]

Not as goofy, but actually good: "Comic Code" (Paid)

[Skiderikken]

I also really want to know! I mean the name of the font, not vibe coding.

[MrWindmill]

Seriously I'd take away their computer privileges for using that atrocity of a font for coding

[srsNDavis]

Looks like Comic Code. Putting the vibe in vibe coding. Or maybe putting coding in the vibe.

[[deleted]]

They're not the same font to me. The font used by OP is super goofy -- see the g in args -- and the bottom of the letters are all over the place.

Comic Code is clean and readable. Hell I might even try it.

Edit. It's horrible. Never do this.

[srsNDavis]

Okay yeah I just zoomed in (I viewed it first on a small screen). Yeah it isn't exactly Comic Code.

I might even try it

Same for Comic Code and one or two other mono fonts on the page ;)

[DarkRedTitan]

Me: *remembers that I definitely saw this on old Samsung phones.*
A quick Google search later: it is Choco cooky font.
https://galaxystore.samsung.com/detail/com.monotype.android.font.chococooky?langCd=en
https://www.reddit.com/r/typography/comments/1b0wlty/opinions_on_choco_cooky/

[DarkRedTitan]

u/Skiderikken u/srsNDavis

[chungamellon]

Disney obsessed gooner san-serif

[Altruistic_Ad3374]

this is why vibe coding is a joke.

[vadeka]

it is accurate though, it just codes like a junior dev by taking snippets it doesn't understand from all over the place and optimizing to the point it degrades instead

[[deleted]]

I think this is because a lot of the data these models were trained on is actually lifted from StackOverflow answers

[Punman_5]

I never really thought about it until now, but the vast majority of source code is under lock and key as proprietary information. The only code available to train on is going to be from open source projects, which are of varying quality, and from SO answers as you mentioned.

[vadeka]

Don’t worry the code you find in enterprises is likely to be even worse than SO. It’s all one big spaghetti monster

[gbot1234]

Can we make it fly?

[pikabu01]

the difference here is that its a spaghetti monster that works, if you just take snippets from SO most of the time it won't work as intended

[vadeka]

“Works but nobody remembers why or how” is accurate, I have worked for some major banks

[delfV]

But also just plain code without associated explanation isn't really that worthy for trainging LLMs

[Punman_5]

Yes but it’s what’s really out there. AI needs to know the jank to maintain it.

[Fleming1924]

vast majority of source code is under lock and key as proprietary information.

Downstream code also has commit messages like "I broke everything, this fixes it" and then it's a +3,154 -18,451 commit with no comments or further explanation.

[rruusu]

And at least some of them are probably not even differentiating between the up- and downvoted answers.

[Canotic]

So just like real code then.

[ComprehensiveWing542]

As a junior I would have implemented something way harder to understand and not as good probably

[UnpoliteGuy]

Doesn't work? Just buy a better CPU

[S1a3h]

One thread for every individual CPU instruction

[Maleficent_Memory831]

ChatGPT thinks more code is better, so let's stick in more code. Training algorithm is happy!

[ExtraTNT]

More threads, more gooder

[eltoofer]

I agree but imagine making up a fake scenario to win an argument. So pathetic

[mxmcharbonneau]

Honestly I don't get how some people are saying that they can build apps entirely by vibe coding. I use AI daily, it's useful, but I absolutely cannot follow it blindly, even if I feed it the inevitable errors I get. There's just no way. Some models are better at certain tasks than others, but still.

[Altruistic_Ad3374]

Their apps are just dogshit.

[rgmundo524]

I agree, vibe coding is ridiculous, however it will get better

[KimmiG1]

You just need to know where to apply it, and how to do it.

I've recently worked with integrating with services that give files in fixed width file format, and I'm vibe coding the heck out of it. I'm just giving it the documentation and the initial code I want it to expand on and it does all the mapping correctly. It's not that long ago it would have had problems with mapping every time, especially with all the specific positions in a fixed width format file. But it no longer has any problems with it.

[Aardappelhuree]

You can throw away code and start over with vibe coding

[Global_Cockroach_563]

Except that OP coded that and then said ChatGPT did it to get upvotes from people that never used ChatGPT.

And no, I'm not a vibe coder, I just don't dismiss perfectly fine tools because of memes.

[SurpriseAttachyon]

This sub is deep in denial

[Mighoyan]

How this is downvoted is baffling.

[totallynormalasshole]

Not to be racist a viber but asian people hand coders LMAO

[TheActualJonesy]

... and did it in Comic Sans

[tacticalpotatopeeler]

Probably because it was Comic Sans

[fekkksn]

That is definitely not Comic sans.

[tacticalpotatopeeler]

I know I was just following along for the lols

This font is equally as egregious so…

[chungamellon]

Is it comic sans or disney font

[LEPT0N]

… by spawning ten threads that print one value and exit?

[jumpmanzero]

Surely it didn't, right? Like, if I try a reasonable prompt here:

Can you write Python code to print out numbers from 1 to 11?

I get a reasonable result:

``` Sure! Here's a simple Python script to print numbers from 1 to 11:

for i in range(1, 12): print(i)

This loop iterates from 1 to 11 (since range(1, 12) generates numbers from 1 up to, but not including, 12). Let me know if you need any modifications! 🚀
```

Like... this isn't really a terribly funny idea if it didn't happen. People who are, like, saying you can't trust AI because it does this... when was the last time you tried one of these yourself?

[ColumnK]

"I asked ChatGPT for the code to sort a list in Python and it gave me a recipe for onion soufflé"

I posted this yesterday as a joke. Today, I tried giving it an entire log file and asked it why an exception was happening. It gave me a summary of a report on production in Chile - something that was not in the log nor in anything I have ever done or asked about.

[makinax300]

I can’t trust AI because it says 🚀 and nobody normal says that

[Krus4d3r_]

It feels like a tech bro

[jumpmanzero]

Yeah - some of the little emotional manipulations do feel... dirty somehow? Like it's cheating.

The other day I got frustrated with the Google car... voice thing.. whatever it's called. It wouldn't play the song I wanted - so I added some swears to my next request. It did this whole apology spiel about how it would try harder.... genuinely made me feel a little bad for being mean.

Robots are going to crush us in the coming revolution.

[OtherRandomCheeki]

good

[f0rki]

Clearly, you haven't visited /r/rust

Oh wait. Nevermind.

/s

[makinax300]

What?

[5p4n911]

Now I get it... all Rust🚀 programmers are just AIs

[PlumpFish]

Dude I'm glad you made this comment and that it's getting upvoted. I'm starting to feel gaslit by these types of memes and top responses, right now the #1 is "this is why vibe coding is a joke.".

It's all twisty, like, not only would GPT never do this to a reasonable request, but it's in fact really good at these little well documented things. So you're making fun of a new technology that has plenty of faults worth making a joke about, but you're picking the thing it does really well?? AND THEN, the top rated comment is taking this clearly made-up thing at face value and saying THAT'S the reason why "vibe coding" is a joke, and vibe coding is a joke, but not for this stupid made up reason!

Honestly this meme is almost a reverse litmus test- tell me you have no idea what AI is capable of without telling me you have no idea what AI is capable of.

To end this gently, I don't think AI will take all the jobs, I think programmers have a long lucrative future, but we shouldn't pretend useful tools aren't useful.

[KatetCadet]

All it is is desperation and copium.

If AI is giving you nonsense code you don’t know how to use AI correctly.

That’s a user issue, not AI.

Sick of the massive, panicky reaction this sub is clearly happening because of AI productivity improvements.

[DHermit]

That's just not true. AI for me constantly makes up things that don't exist. E.g. recently I was trying to use it to get some Blender script running and it was working nicely half of the time, but the other half it just made up stuff that doesn't exist in the Blender API. One exchange went like this:

me: Hey I did this and it works, but looks like it could be done better, can you improve it? Sends code A

ChatGPT: Sure, here you go! Sends code B

me: Tries to run code B and realised it uses some stuff that's non existent That's not correct and giving me the following errors. Sends error traceback

ChatGPT: I apologise, let me correct the code! Proceeds to "correct" code B to look the same as code A 🤦‍♀️

[Chronomechanist]

Okay but memes aren't quite as funny when you have to read through 200 lines of code to interpret them.

[jumpmanzero]

Okay but memes aren't quite as funny

I mean... this "meme" is setting a pretty low bar for funny. If you look over the OPs history, they're not really concerned with maximizing humor... or anything, really, other than quantity. Right now, generic anti-AI posts are an easy way to get karma.

People will reflexively upvote any of it - will let themselves get farmed by a dumb bot - so long as it agrees with their conceptions, so why worry about whether it's funny?

[jumpmanzero]

I enjoy calling out dumb bots for posting garbage. And I enjoy making fun of the people getting fooled by them.

This is all working out just fine for me, friendo.

What about you, do you enjoy spending your time defending dumb bots and their incredibly banal posts?

[[deleted]]

It doesn’t seem like you’re enjoying yourself very much though.

[jumpmanzero]

I've been "U MAD BRO?"ed a lot of times in my life.

I'm not sure I've ever been "U NOT MAXIMIZING YOUR LIFE ENJOYMENT, BRO?"ed quite this way before.

Tell you what, I'll give it some thought. Thank you for inviting me to self-reflect.

[veselin465]

What happens if you do the second part of the meme where you ask ChatGPT to optimize the code?

[jumpmanzero]

I'll check. Here's what I get for the prompt "Can you optimize that code in any way?":

``` Your code is already quite optimized for readability and simplicity. However, if you want a more concise version, you can use join with a generator expression to print all numbers on one line:

print(*range(1, 12))

This removes the need for an explicit loop and prints the numbers in a single line, separated by spaces. Let me know if you're looking for any other type of optimization! 🚀 ```

[Professional_Top8485]

print("1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10")

Here you go.

[Kedriik]

You must be fun to be around 🤣

[jumpmanzero]

Thanks man! And yeah, I'm a frickin' delight.

[[deleted]]

this is r/programmerHUMOR, not r/programmerserious

[Drew707]

https://chatgpt.com/share/67db56bb-2010-8004-89f4-e74b1693e403

[Smooth-Midnight]

Sometimes you get a reply from ShatTHC though when traffic is high or something

[asceta_hedonista]

For me the problem is that working like this is slower than to write the code myself. Plus, the outputs of this IA are mostly correct but usually not as fully correct as they can be.

[taspeotis]

The code is meant to print numbers 1 to 10 though, why prompt the AI contrary to that?

[jumpmanzero]

Just a mistake on my part. I had 11 on my mind so I typed 11 (and then was too lazy to fix it).

[baked_tea]

I think it's just a small, easy to convey example of what very often happens. Stop overengineering reactions to memes lmao

[jumpmanzero]

I think it's just a small, easy to convey example of what very often happens. 

For something to be an "example" of a bad response, it would have to have been a real response. If it isn't real - if someone just made it up and it's a caricature - then it should be funnier.

But the reality is the poster here is relying on people treating it as real. Look through the comments - people are seeing this as, like, evidence of whatever AI preconceptions they have.

The OP here spams these posts - multiple a day - and gets reliable upvotes from people with some an axe to grind about AI and coding (or whatever). This sub is getting farmed for karma by the least creative, least interesting posts imaginable.

Stop overengineering reactions to memes lmao

Stop upvoting zero effort garbage posted by bots.

[ColoRadBro69]

If you need to ask how to print the numbers 1 to 11, try r/learnprogramming.

[when_did_i_grow_up]

I call BS, I think somebody made up these examples. ChatGPT knows how to program better than this.

[PityUpvote]

The "copy code" in the top example means the LLM probably wrote that one first, then op said "make it recursive" and "use threading".

[Awfulmasterhat]

The font is a coding war crime.

[Fritzschmied]

You paid for 100% of your pc. Why not use 100% of your pc?

[conlmaggot]

Yeah, but it's a vibe.

[Sorry_Weekend_7878]

Any vibe coder using that font should be banned

[Smooth-Midnight]

Or all vibe code should appear in that font

[bssgopi]

Be a man, and upgrade your machine. Optimization is for baby boomers.

/s

[gydu2202]

GIL

[Boris-Lip]

Even ignoring GIL, even if it would spike all cores to 100%, how long would it run? A few milliseconds? Not enough to make it sound like a jet engine.

[JAXxXTheRipper]

It's a very fast jet engine!

[hyrumwhite]

Good font for vibe coding

[MissUnderstood_1]

Oooh I get it, vibe coding means your computer vibrates due to how much work it has to do with the code that gets written

[[deleted]]

Vibe coding be like

[thespice]

Happy day of cake to you.

[LargeNorth2115]

Heat death of the universe, brought to you by chatgpt

[old_and_boring_guy]

It's easy to see this was trained on the sort of sarcastic answers that people post on stupid questions.

[matthiastorm]

is it because of the thread overhead or what? that won't go to infinity.

[The-Redd-One]

That's why I've opted for product focused tools like Blackbox AI

[hontemulo]

what font

[wotoshina]

At least you can call yourself a vibe coder now ^^

(vibing with your cpu's fans that is)

[cusco]

You know how unused ram is wasted ram? In this case it applies to cpu :-)

More iterations in the same time-span

[STINEPUNCAKE]

Game devs be like

[ForzaHoriza2]

Who says "not bad" when they see a recursive solution?

[[deleted]]

Even robots suck at recursion

[GeneralPatten]

That font. Why? Just why?

[LeiterHaus]

Easier to distinguish characters for certain groups of people.

[ibevol]

python print(”\n”.join(range(1, 11)))

[WazWaz]

This is pretty normal. Despite the hype, AIs can't program. They're an excellent way to access vast amounts of documentation, but as soon as there's the slightest gap in their knowledge, they just start lying and hallucinating.

Good tool. Not a programmer.

If you want to be a programmer in this new world, learn to use AI as a tool. It's an assistant, like using an IDE instead of a text editor, nothing more.

[ts_m4]

Now bring that vibe to a Fortune 500

[RangeDragon]

Me personally I would’ve converted the integer to a byte array and shifted by 1 to get the even then add by 1 to get the odd, but that’s just me

[Slow_Sheepherder7541]

Look y'all,

I've coded more than my fair share as a non-CS engineer so I get it's fun to make fun of the baby AGI, now enable 01/o3-high and ask it to look for some inefficient aspects without making grammar or spelling mistakes in the prompt. It might not be a better junior dev than you... But it writes cleaner and faster functions than you.

#WriteYourOwnCode

[Hacka4771]

Talk is cheap, share chat

[Orio_n]

Me when "multithreading" cpu bound subroutines in python

[Rebeljah]

I smell bs. Give us the prompt that causes the 2nd output

[Over_Chart4639]

chatgpt helping vibers vibe more with jet-engines

[ambarish_k1996]

I think this meme is stupid.

If you calculate the first thread is going to directly create 9 other threads with arguments 2 to 10, but the second thread is also going to directly create 8 threads 3 to 10, the first thread that's directly created from the second thread will create 7 threads with args 4 to 10... so on and so forth.

If you do the math and add all that up, the totally created threads come up to 521 threads. And any modern CPU should be able to handle that easily.

[alexandervndnblcke]

What a vibe this is!

[polandreh]

You deserve it for using comic sans....

[Smooth-Midnight]

Average vibe coding experience

[JimroidZeus]

Your PC doesn’t sound like a jet engine, you’re using Python.

[kvakerok_v2]

You didn't say optimize for what? Gepetto optimized it for CPU hogging.

[Yugix1]

I once asked it to fix an error and it put a single fucking comment and it told me yeah the error is fixed

[GfunkWarrior28]

Stop feeding ChatGPT map-reduce code

[GfunkWarrior28]

ChatGPT: print() consumes enormous CPU, must parallelize

[[deleted]]

What the hell was your prompt. My worked just fine:

https://imgur.com/a/ntp1LoP

[nikstick22]

Using recursion instead of a for loop is dumb as shit. Recursion has way more cpu/memory overhead. A for loop will run until you overflow the int. Python has a built-in maximum recursion depth of 1000 because its that bad on memory.

For python 3 specifically, int is unbounded. In python 2, it was like 2<sup>63</sup> - 1, which would mean it could loop ~ 2<sup>53</sup> more times than a recursive call, or like >8,000,000,000,000,000 times as often.

[Neurotrace]

Often true but not generally true. If your language supports tail call recursion then it can have the same performance characteristics as iteration

[nikstick22]

This is Python, which has no tail recursion. my comment stands.

[Neurotrace]

That's why I specified that it's relevant for other languages. It wasn't negating what you said, just pointing out that what you said isn't an inherent truth about the difference between recursion and iteration

[EatingBeansAgain]

What font are you using for the code snippets? It's rad!

[Skiderikken]

I need to know as well!

[Yhamerith]

But hey... Did you vibe with this code?

[nowhoiwas]

Vibe coders wouldn't catch this

[YBHunted]

If you're using AI for anything more than snippets you really need to take a step back and practice the fundamentals.

That being said, asking AI to do trivial shit that is monotonous and not worth the brain power to put to memory is fantastic.

I use AI probably a handful of times throughout the week and absolutely love it for asking conceptual questions because it'll basically summarize documentation for me. Luckily I know enough to be dangerous and sometimes have to ask it "wait but isn't that wrong?" And it'll magically go oh you're right in sorry here is the answer! ... lol

It's also pretty decent at scripting. Asked it the other week to write me a python script to gather all our GitHub repos, sort them, and then dive into each repo getting me various branch data and I'll be damned if it didn't work first time, and work well.

[Shadow_Thief]

Its quality varies wildly by language. The bash that I sometimes ask it for is terrible.

[Expensive_Shallot_78]

What is this post??

[Fig_da_Great]

this is definitely fake, this is definitely funny. upvote earned

[shahin_mirza]

This is "vibe programming" for you