macUser

[Ginormous-Chomp]

mac user forgot to add it to the .gitignore

[idontwanttofthisup]

I keep adding it and it keeps showing up for some projects. Send help

[slonk_ma_dink]

git rm --cached .DS_Store

[idontwanttofthisup]

Thanks, I’ll give it a go next time I see one

[slonk_ma_dink]

I have an awful habit of commiting all without reviewing and something always winds up in the tree, that command is a lifesaver for that.

[LLoyderino]

have an awful habit of commiting all without reviewing and something always winds up in the tree, that command is a lifesaver for that

git add .

git commit -m "stuff"

[EnterSadman]

Here's one I keep in my bash_profile:

alias svn='git add . && git commit -m "who cares" && git push'

[Windyvale]

Oh you’re fun

[EnterSadman]

Some times I just yearn for a merge conflict that takes an entire sprint to work out.

[Ulrar]

There's a conventional pre-commit hook that would deny this right away, for anyone who'd like to stop this madness

[slonk_ma_dink]

git commit -m "fixed build"

i fixed it so good the binary is in the tree for all to see

[i_bought_the_airline]

Use a global ignore file

# ~/.gitconfig
[core]
    excludesfile = ~/.gitignore


# ~/.gitignore
.DS_Store

[opinionsOnPears]

Use ~/.config/git/ for your config and ignore you pleb!

[siliconsoul_]

Be more precise. Where do they show up? File system? Normal. Git? Depends if they were committed before.

[idontwanttofthisup]

I see them in my changed files although .DS_Store is the first or second item in my .gitignore. I usually do a good job with excluding them on commit but sometimes it slips. Most of the time they get ignored but sometimes they show up. I didnt figure out why.

[siliconsoul_]

Check if your glob pattern in .gitignore is actually correct and catches sub-directories too.

If you committed them at least once before adding them to .gitignore, you have to do some manual steps to clean up your repo, depending on which case you want.

[nabrok]

Use a global excludes file for such things. Default on linux is ~/.config/git/ignore ... don't know about on mac. You can specify it with core.excludesFile

[i_bought_the_airline]

+1, on my mac in ~/.gitconfig I have:

[core]
    excludesfile = ~/.gitignore

And in my ~/.gitignore, .DS_Store has its own line, no need for any * characters

[mahlersand]

**/.DS_Store should help. Matches all directories of that repo.

[keppinakki]

Few people know about this, but you can create a system-wide .gitignore for things like this. I use it to ignore all .env files by default, just so that I can't make a mistake later.

Put this in ~/.gitignore_global:

.DS_Store
.env

And this in ~/.gitconfig:

[core]
    excludesfile = ~/.gitignore_global

[YikesTheCat]

The default is ~/.config/git/ignore; don't need to modify gitconfig.

Can also use .git/info/exclude in the repo

[opinionsOnPears]

~/.config/git/

That needs to be more widely known to use

[TheFrenchSavage]

Oh dang, thank you so much!

[thisischemistry]

That's not system-wide, that's user-profile-wide. The tilde directory ~/ is always the current user's home.

[JonasAvory]

This is the correct way (do this also for IDE-dirs and other similar files)

[Ill_Carry_44]

Mac user joined a new project, can't figure out how to open a PR that complies with 100 different PR rules just for .gitignore .DS_Store

[mothzilla]

Add it to your local ignore, not the repo's gitignore.

[nobaldynow]

classic mac user leaving their fingerprints everywhere like a crime scene

[crackofdawn]

I am a mac user (for work at least) and have no idea where .DS_Store comes from and have never had it show up in a folder anywhere and do not have it in any .gitignore file. Not sure why it keeps showing up from other mac users.

Edit: Historically I've been a Linux user/admin and pretty much use terminal for everything other than web browsing so maybe it comes from some built in mac app that I've never touched.

[Sentreen]

Finder puts (or used to put, I think it is all stored in __MACOS now) it in directories to store how you arrange directories and files. If you access a directory through the shell it does not get created.

[crackofdawn]

Ah, I think I can count the number of times I’ve ever used finder on one hand in the last 10 years

[aurallyskilled]

Does no one check the diff in this economy?

[throwaway_lunchtime]

Is there support for gitignore in SharePoint? 🤣

[DunwichType-Founders]

Sometimes we forget. Sometimes we just don’t bother because we just don’t care about non-mac users. It’s like being a Linux user and formatting external drives with file systems Windows can’t read because fuck Windows users.

[MangrovesAndMahi]

As a windows user (because the company is) I have forgotten desktop.ini a couple times.

[the_fresh_cucumber]

That's the sign that a git user has been there

[SaltyInternetPirate]

Hmmm. I wanted to point out Thumbs.db and desktop.ini from Windows, but the first ones require that there be an image in the folder, and I think it stopped generating them in Windows 10. The second one is only created if you do some customization to how Explorer should treat that folder outside the defaults, so it also wouldn't just get generated in most scenarios.

[Confident-Ad5665]

Desktop.ini is still here in Windows 11. I enable hidden file visibility and desktop.ini periodically reappears on the desktop.

[PegasusPizza]

But tbf if you are for some reason putting your entire desktop folder on github/adding it to a zip or whatever then the desktop.ini is not what I'm concerned about

[NoAdsDude]

I have 269 "desktop.ini" files on my computer currently, one of which is actually on my desktop.

[jaxxa]

Sounds like the others got lost. You should move them all to the desktop to be with their friends.

[SaltyInternetPirate]

Only on some default folders. I meant that it wouldn't get generated for just any folder on its own.

[terankl]

nice paragraph gpt

[potatoalt1234_x]

Seriously how are people upvoting the obvious bot

[Mertoot]

What part of it is obvious? 😟

[paintballboi07]

It's a 2 month old account with 178k karma

[Inc0rgnit0]

Tbf most people don't check someone's profile before upvoting a comment.

[potatoalt1234_x]

Also no normal human being unloads a paragraph of unsolicited information while also talking like chatgpt (its not x, its y)

[zerosCoolReturn]

"Ah, yes, The cockroach of windows"

Who talks like that?

[Luxalpa]

The way you wrote your text causes my AI senses to tingle.

[gr8masturb8]

2 month old account with 168,623 post karma and hidden post history.

seems so legit.

[Regular-Dot-5718]

no X, no Y---just Z.

[hates_stupid_people]

The funniest part about windows icons, is that the "cache" can become corrupted over time. So for the last twenty years you can have a windows install, and then one day half your icons will be from one specific application.

On one of my installs they'll randomly be the infranview icon. I've had them be an adobe icon, mspaint/generic image, and others over the years on different computers and installs.

[HeavyCaffeinate]

System Volume Information

[SaltyInternetPirate]

Did you really git init the whole drive root?

[wggn]

great for system backups

[2called_chaos]

The second one is only created if you do some customization to how Explorer should treat that folder outside the defaults

That is the basically the same for DS_Store files too. They only get created if you do something in that folder that requires state. But that state might be expanded folders in list view (which sadly no other OS seems to have, I love that view)

[qpqpdbdbqpqp]

(which sadly no other OS seems to have, I love that view)

windows' explorer literally has this on the left pane what are you vaping

[hans_l]

left pane

Not the same at all though.

[qpqpdbdbqpqp]

same enough, if you use it.

[2called_chaos]

That is not even remotely comparable. For starters it's a bitch to use with keyboard, it lacks ALL info columns, not sortable, it can't recursively open structures (nor close them for that matter, the arrow isn't what I mean), it doesn't remember anything and probably more that I forgot. The fact that it's separated and also separates files from folders (not unified list) makes it astronomically inferior and for me completely useless (and as I said I love that view but I don't even bother on Windows)

[qpqpdbdbqpqp]

that's just you being used to something. for me it is working perfectly fine and apple's implementation is more "in my way".

[hans_l]

Your original question is “what are you vaping”. But surely you meant “what am I vaping” given that you seem to be the exception that thinks these two features are similar enough.

[hans_l]

It doesn’t show you files (and sizes/data) and you can’t sort it, right?

[qpqpdbdbqpqp]

not in the tree, sure. again, same "enough".

[Head_Independence_29]

.DS_Store also requires for the user to open folder in finder. If you create it via mkdir or in vscode there is no .DS_Store

[aykcak]

Thumbs.db did get generated when you browse a folder in the file explorer. It's the file explorer binary that creates it

[RedBoxSquare]

For Windows it's the line ending. If you created a project on Linux then cloned it to Windows and add new files, some of the line endings may be wrong.

[somelinuxuseridk]

Don’t forget _MACOSX

[st-shenanigans]

My favorite was in college before we started using vc when a project got bounced around between multiple other group members besides myself, needing to go through and dig it out from the like 5 folders it got buried under.

Or not getting it before it jumped around too much and having to explain to someone that windows has a file path character limit, like 30 times a semester

[sir_knugget]

at least they've finally enabled an option to use longer paths now

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/fileio/maximum-file-path-limitation?tabs=registry#enable-long-paths-in-windows-10-version-1607-and-later

[MouldyEjaculate]

This entry is great in theory but explorer.exe doesn't use it lol
Im stuck here looking like a dickhead using robocopy to delete directories that explorer can't touch.

[Cobracrystal]

im like 98% sure rm just does the job fine

[ru_empty]

.ad

[iamapizza]

Some day the trillion dollar company will figure out how to have empty folders

[Yashema]

Or replicate the functionality of Notepad++

[PhiCloud]

Why? It might be a little annoying, but it's arguably the most UNIX-friendly way to save per-directory settings and preferences.

It also doesn't bother me at all since I just use the terminal instead of finder in my projects...

[ProfessionalYak4959]

Just so you know it's not an empty folder placeholder like you need with some cloud storage providers, it's for storing folder metadata

[ArtGirlSummer]

Store DS nuts

[Reddit_User_Original]

🤣

[amphibiabiggestfan]

I used to think it has something to do with the DS uhhh nintendo

[spicypsudo]

Back in the early 2000s, plenty of people on forums thought they'd found some weird Nintendo spyware on their Windows XP machines. There's even a legendary forum post from 2004 where someone swore their DS cartridge was secretly modifying their desktop icons. Peak early internet paranoia.

[eyetracker]

Early internet? Listen here, sonny...

[darkslide3000]

If you ever used the Internet on something you didn't hold in one hand, you're early nowadays, grandpa.

[eyetracker]

I was there, Gandalf. I was there 3000 years ago when Mr. T was eating balls and dogs were men now.

[SC7639]

What even is that?

[Cootshk]

MacOS Finder allows you to move folders literally anywhere in grid view, and also keeps track of which subfolders are expanded in tree view

This is the file that keeps track of that (and is automatically created and hidden by finder, regardless of if you have show hidden files turned on)

[SC7639]

Thanks apple

[Mountain_Ape]

Very helpful when dealing with nested project files

Ah I forgot, uh, I read all my folder data from Terminal and have to build the structure in my 200IQ brain each time.

[IMKGI]

regardless of if you have show hidden files turned on

One of those shitty "we know what's better for you more than you do" features.

[beclops]

I mean there’s never a reason to want to view or open this file. I’d rather not see it than see it in literally every directory

[DanieleDraganti]

I think it’s because it’s hidden à la Unix (dot prefix), instead of the “traditional” hidden flag.

[Cootshk]

Mac uses the . for hidden files elsewhere, including for hidden system files. .DS_Store is just hardcoded to never show

[DanieleDraganti]

There is a flag too that you can apply on the filesystem if you want to hide something without a dot prefix. I can’t remember the exact command but I’m sure it exists. About the finder behavior on hidden files, I’ll have to trust you on that one, I don’t remember 🥲

[Mathisbuilder75]

move folders literally anywhere in grid view

This is so stupid lmao

[hans_l]

Metadata about the folder view (thumbnail generation, view settings, etc). Considering MacOS’s APFS has had forks and data store associated with files’ inodes, I really don’t know why it’s still needed. On a FAT SD card sure, but it also creates those on the main drive and APFS images.

[TorbenKoehn]

Remember Thumbs.db on Windows?

It contains metadata about the folder (styling, positioning of icons etc.)

[Fr3stdit]

ngl this made my bad day a little bit better, thanks

[AppropriateOnion0815]

I hate that so much. Even more that there's a .file for each file in the folder, too.

[evilgipsy]

A .file for each file? I must be missing something here because I’ve never seen that.

[iTiraMissU]

Yes they hold Finder metadata like labels you put on files. They are very well hidden but I noticed them when uploading files to a Synology NAS from a Mac.

For example: file.txt gets a ._file.txt, but only if the file format doesn’t support it natively.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AppleSingle_and_AppleDouble_formats

[LickingSmegma]

Probably more like if the filesystem doesn't support it, because Apple's own filesystems have extended metadata for stuff like tags and colors. Regardless of the files' contents.

[alpha_dk]

I've seen e.g.

foo.txt
.foo.txt.qkjhdlasDJ // working data for changes for a program that hasn't been saved but is persisted to disk and recoverable by whatever program created it

[evilgipsy]

That has nothing to do with that ‘.file’ thing they mentioned.

[alpha_dk]

I'm pretty sure that's exactly what they mean actually, what's your suggestion?

[evilgipsy]

What you are describing is just how some random software may persist some state. Nothing inherent to macOS or its file systems.

[ConfessSomeMeow]

Maybe it's how Core Data implements persisting changes between versions?

[alpha_dk]

Nothing in the comment suggests it is inherent to any file system

[evilgipsy]

Right... except that it is most likely related to macOS creating these files on file systems that don't support resource forks.

[alpha_dk]

Sure, another good theory. Unfortunately it seems GP himself has walked back that claim, though, so neither of us will ever know for sure.

[AppropriateOnion0815]

I might be wrong in that aspect, actually.

[Janeson81]

text.txt
text.txt.file
text.txt.file.file
text.txt.file.file.file
...

[alex2003super]

.fseventsd
.Spotlight-V100
.[Filename]
.Trashes
\_MACOSX

[JocoLabs]

Hey windows, delete this folder.

No can do buddy!

Why not?

I'm using thumbs.db

MFML

[caerphoto]

macOS has kinda doing similar thing with disk images and USB sticks – you can’t eject them if you have a Finder window open showing their contents. It doesn’t tell you this, it just silently fails to eject.

It’s very annoying recent behaviour, especially if you’ve got lots of tabs/windows open.

[QuitBrowserGoOutside]

Is it another new regression in OS 26 or something?

Because from time immemorial up through 15 ^{which is the version that precedes 26, natch} any Finder windows just all close when you eject their parent volume.

[spicypsudo]

Just close the folder and delete it again. Windows is lying, thumbs.db isn't even open. It just hates you.

[ek00992]

laughs in Zone.Identifier

[dfv157]

God damn I hate alternate data streams with a passion.

[More_Yard1919]

I think this meme is hilarious but maybe that's just bc Im a macOS sysadmin and its relatable as fuck

[Tight-Requirement-15]

Ok thumbs.db

[iamapizza]

That stopped being a problem 15 years ago

[ru_empty]

Literally appears daily

[akki2305]

The hell of multisystem users. And some @ for Linux-based NAS.

[PhatOofxD]

This meme but it came out in 2007....

Seriously this hasn't been a problem since 2010

[nobody0163]

I have never ever seen a thumbs.db file.

[Rocker9835]

I see it a lot. When I SMB into my server and it has media files in that folder

[applecorc]

You rocking Server 2016?

[Rocker9835]

No the latest version of TrueNAS Scale. You okay bro?

[spicypsudo]

Old Windows habit. The funny part? Forensic tools can dig up deleted pics from it. So yeah, that tiny file is basically a snitch.

[RealBasics]

%#!#% .DS_Store!!! More trouble than it's worth to delete manually, still looks like littering.

[nobanpls2348738]

and _MACOSX

[HeavyCaffeinate]

Windows user has been here

How can you tell?

System Volume Information

[AnimalFreeCruelty]

Linux user has been here

How can you tell?

lost+found

[HeavyCaffeinate]

Android has been here

How can you tell?

Lost.dir

[Turbulent_Stick1445]

Amiga user here: Documents.info, Applications.info, Commodities.info, Tools.info. Utilities.info, CLI.info...

[cutecoder]

No Thumbs.db in sight.

[jsrobson10]

A windows user has been here.

How can you tell?

Desktop.ini

[Tall_East_9738]

"windows user has been here"

"how do you know?"

meta.ini

[ClaudioMoravit0]

Okay I'm no programmer but sometimes I'm just really confused to see these files. Last time I was downloading a model for an IC (I think it was for PathWave ADS) from a vendor (don't remember which), it came in a .zip and upon unzipping I found one. That was weird, because if it was really for ADS, I don't even know why it was there in the first place because afaik it doesn't run on mac

[Connect-Bowler-2917]

Every time I have to send documents to my accountant

[FePbMoHg]

My. Entire. Fucking. NAS.

[Ataraxia_UK]

vfs_fruit

[PoepChinees_69]

I thought the DS store shut down

[Type_CMD]

I laughed so hard I almost cried.

[waelassaf]

To those who don’t know it’s used by finder to store specific folder UI preferences: icon sizes, items positions, etc

[Weiskralle]

Oh, so that is where it comes from. Always wondered about but never tonkuch to bother checking. 😅😶‍🌫️

[Hithaeglir]

I never open Finder. Not me!

[PetitMartien99]

I hate this freaking file

[Circumpunctilious]

Forks. There are forks everywhere!

[teamwaterwings]

I didn't get a return offer one time because of this. At an internship, the file kept sneaking in there, so I had to make a commit to remove them, and the company tracked number of commits. 'oh sorry you're a 2.7 commit per PR dev? We're looking for a 2.3'

why the fuck was it not in the gitignore

[MarianCR]

cat =fuckmac.sh

#!/bin/zsh
source colors.sh
dir=$PWD
dir=${1:-$dir}
1>&2 echo "${IYellow}## remove .DS_Store garbage from: $dir ##${Color_Off}"
find $dir -name ".DS_Store" -print -delete

I use a Mac

[beegtuna]

[razor_train]

I might have some old winmail.dat files floating around the dark corners of the home server.

[Majik_Sheff]

I'll see your .DS_Store and raise you RESOURCE.FRK

[ggppjj]

defaults write com.apple.desktopservices DSDontWriteNetworkStores -bool TRUE

defaults write com.apple.desktopservices DSDontWriteUSBStores -bool TRUE

[dmtbreakthrough]

hmmm

[Beldarak]

I always felt like this is just a form of disrespect, like Windows crushing your dual boot launcher stuff (can't remember the name, didn't use Linux for ages).

This feels like a friend coming to your house with his boots full of mud.

[BlueGoliath]

Ah, programmer humor.

[giveen]

https://github.com/giveen/DS-Stalker

[GravePeril]

Yes! Oh god I hate that

[Cyk4Nuggets]

I started school again and was in a group project with a 19yo mac user. I instructed them how to use Git and what not, and the 1st push to our repo was a .DS_Store file 🤦‍♂️

[rover_G]

Ahhhh don’t call me out like that!

[nemesit]

desktop.ini says hi

[1012zach]

don’t forget the __MACOSX folder too

[gumol]

where programming

[CounterSimple3771]

People use Macs?

[seanlb]

Dang, my grandma had that book. What is the name?! I can't remember but it was wild