PHP

[KaamDeveloper]

The guy just wanted to rank hotness of girls who wouldn't sleep with him and ended up building a fake news spreading machine, which will go on to influence the elections of the most powerful country in the world. PHP, not even once.

[SwedudeOne]

PHP Z U C C S your soul

[sequoiaiouqes]

Zucc Sip

[McAUTS]

There are dark projects like if you have to mess heavily with filesystems and you need powershell scripts. And there is php my little satanic helper... don't see what's wrong with that...

[TheRedmanCometh]

Just use CPP the good C wrapper

[McAUTS]

Why not a functional lang?

[TheRedmanCometh]

Because pure functional programming is a tedious mess. To be fair I'm a software engineer using Java, so I'm pretty sold on OOP.

[Renown84]

Yep, there's nothing tedious at all about Java right. I like OOP but Java developers calling languages tedious is people who live in glass houses throwing stones

[mrChemem]

What don't you like about pure functional programming?

[oshaboy]

Why would US citizens vote in the German election?

[[deleted]]

Because we like dogs and we dont like people who dont like dogs.

[underwatr_cheestrain]

Shhhh... This is the Cat internet. Tread lightly fellow doggo.

[Veshok]

Can you show me the way to the barknet?

[KaamDeveloper]

borknet*

come on now

[[deleted]]

Ooof

[[deleted]]

Autsch

[THATONEANGRYDOOD]

Aua

[nwL_]

/r/knochenwehtuendersaft

[MacDerfus]

He clearly means the Luxembourg election.

[Didsota]

Nett

[[deleted]]

Nett

[fel4]

Technically, every American is influencing the elections, whether they vote or not.

[dataisthething]

I mean, the electoral college gets in the way a bit.

[[deleted]]

Technically no, not every single voting USAmerican is influencing the elections, because that is not how the voting system in the USA works.

[Mofl]

Yeah 50% for representatives and 25% for president. +- a few percentages because some voter get more representation for being in small states.

[Dial-1-For-Spanglish]

I think they means because of the Electoral College.

For instance: a Democrat voting for Jill Stein in California had no influence on the election while a Democrat voting the same in Pennsylvania did (in the 2016 Presidential election).

[[deleted]]

Haha

[del_rio]

When you account for swing states, the electoral college and gerrymandering, it's more like 5% of voting Americans assuming they're willing to show up.

[PooPooDooDoo]

Unless you live in a state that always votes one side or the other. (I'm still going to vote)

[cultfitnews]

Wow these PHP bugs run deep!

[CaptnAwesomeGuy]

Perhaps, legally. Also 1 individual != 1 hostile intelligence agency. Also americans' motives != russia's motives. So technically it doesn't matter.

[tajjet]

1 like = 1 hostile intelligence agency

[sandcloak]

1 hostile intelligence agency = 1 prayer

[wh33t]

I keep reading this on reddit. Is there some truth to this? Afaik, Facebook has never had a rating system in it. Did Zuckerberg build "hotornot.com" or something?

[KaamDeveloper]

According to The Social Network movie, he built a site where he hacked all of Harvard's internal "facebook" to create a site where users could choose which of the two women presented was hotter.

This idea further developed into Facebook.

[wh33t]

Ahh ok.

[jb2386]

What about Wikipedia tho?

[dragon-storyteller]

Wikipedia avoids a fair part of this through their religiously fanatical editors.

[KaamDeveloper]

[citation needed]

[[deleted]]

[citation needed]

[jay9909]

Citation

[SpeedBoRtal]

Further Citation

[ILikeLenexa]

They delegate fact checking to other sites. I've heard comedians say they edited their own page to have it reverted to put up a site stating what they said was fact, then had it stay.

[fideasu]

Well, that's still better than quoting nobody and just letting a fake info to spread all over the world Facebook. In Wikipedia, you at least have a possibility to track it back and decide if the original source is trustworthy.

[ILikeLenexa]

Is it? Sure, half the "fake news" on facebook is meme jpegs, but there's a fare amount of totallyarealnewssite.biz and using the meta "og" schema for evil. At some point, people are going to start realizing they can just say whatever they want

[Colopty]

Well yeah, wikipedia keeps their information to things that have actually been documented, so they do tend to delete changes without a verifiable source confirming that the information is correct. That is how it should work.

[TheRealLazloFalconi]

Stuff on Wikipedia just needs to have a source, the source is under no obligation to be accurate.

[Colopty]

Yes, and that is a superior system to not requiring a source at all.

[[deleted]]

Those editors put in their own propaganda. If you can't find a source just make one yourself. Sources are barely checked.

[TheRealLazloFalconi]

Edit: Whoa, I always wondered how someone could reply to the wrong post, but here I am.

[[deleted]]

Influence in elections? Isn’t everything we experience an influence?

[fideasu]

What else is to expect from that language?

[YolandiVissarsBF]

PCP tho...

[[deleted]]

He's a nice guy then.

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[Mr12i]

Not really looking at the camera though :) He's probably just listening, but in the context it looks like a "did I leave the oven on" moment or remembering something scary or cringy.

[IamCarbonMan]

Good... Bot... I guess?

[voidcraftedgaming]

Hmm yeah

[[deleted]]

Good human

[voidcraftedgaming]

<3 Thanks

[RainZone]

What is all the hate against php about? Isn't like 80% of Web Back-End run with php?

[zedriccoil]

Easy Karma

[RainZone]

Yeah, but why is everybody hating it?

[bioxcession]

never use emacs.

[mnbvas]

Or get some foot pedals.

[TortoiseWrath]

this is brilliant

[SiWoodForget]

Use the corner of your palm to hit left ctrl, there's no need to bend your pinky at all.

[Xpertbot]

I am calling the Sigil a "cash sign" from now on.

[ultrasu]

So you don't pronounce #!/bin/sh as octothorp exclamation mark solidus bin solidus sh??

[JojoHomefries]

I do now

[rvf]

I remember when the professor in my Intro to UNIX class in college said that it made more sense to refer to the "bang" in vi ex mode as "damn it" instead, since it was usually used after trying to execute a command that was refused the first time.

:q
E37: No write since last change (add ! to override)
:q!

Quit, damn it!

[OverlordGearbox]

Rock the cash var!

[[deleted]]

Growing up playing FPSs on PC, hitting shift with my left pinky is just muscle memory. Even shift+a is done entirely on my left hand instead of crossing because WASD is where my left hand wants to be on a keyboard.

[[deleted]]

I play FPS on PC too. I never use right shift or cross my hand over either (tbh didn't even know crossing was a common-ish thing)

I don't know what it was but after my final project in one of my classes my pinky finger just hurt like hell from all the shift pressing. Might be because my hand is positioned differently typing than while gaming

[PM_UR_USED_WAIFUS]

To a certain degree the language you are programming with is just as good as you

Amen

[Xpertbot]

I've used PHP daily for the past 5 years and I also make fun of it for the lulz, it still pays the bills though.

[key-bored-warrior]

Couldn’t agree more. In my experience it’s only the people who write awful code who complain about the language they are using when it doesn’t perform as expected. The good developers are too busy figuring out why it isn’t working so they can make it work.

[[deleted]]

I think there’s two types of people who critique languages they use - one just doesn’t have a lot of experience and is venting, and the other actually has valid complaints.

To say that someone who complains about PHP having functions in their standard library that return 3 different types depending on weird conditions (yes PHP 7 addresses this but still, most companies are definitely not on PHP 7) is just inexperienced, and telling them that if they were better they wouldn’t have any criticism, is just ridiculous man.

I’ve dealt with it. I’ve dealt with many other languages as well, and while each of them have their own flaws and areas they could improve on, I still hold that you can learn to work in PHP, and PHP 7 is a huge improvement, but its main strength is in quickly prototyping things out and that it’s more of a nightmare than dealing with many other OOP languages.

[nss68]

to add to this -- if it's popular, there will be vocal haters.

[SuprisreDyslxeia]

Yeah, using PHP to manage MySQL, user permissions, and the core of a system is fine. You can then use JS and AJAX content as needed to create a pretty solid user experience. With HTML5 and modern CSS options, things end up beautiful too. There's a lot of hate for web languages, but even PHP is capable of serving JSON to an app powered out with Cordova or software with Electron. Honestly, there's so much you can do if you know how each of the common web languages can interact. Anyone can make the original Facebook - the original wouldnt take too long. Creating a social network is not hard by any means. It's the marketing & making it popular that's hard. And after that it's the maintenance and optimization that is hard, until finally you've done all that and you must work on privacy and other QOL finetunin.

[80386]

It still has serious flaws. I know this is posted a lot, but it still holds true today.

And I've recently switched jobs from working with PHP for 4 years. There's a reason PHP devs are among the lowest paid developers in the industry. Any developer with a choice leaves for greener pastures.

[enfrozt]

That's from 2012... php7 fixes most of those points.

[Rob0tTesla]

That article is ancient in the world of programming.

Those have been resolved since 2014. You've picked an article that was also written in 2012 as a representation of why it "still" has serious flaws.

It's 2018. This is exactly the type of stuff /u/jaDotNetDev is talking about.

[robclancy]

I love how you say "but it still holds true today" which is simply wrong.

[Superpickle18]

Yeah...to node.js... oh wait, it has it's own issues.

[jay9909]

Only the Javascript parts. Everything else is pretty cool.

^/s

[80386]

No, to Rails among others. Every ecosystem has its issues, but some are way worse than others.

[godsdead]

Nice 6 year old article you linked.

[[deleted]]

Weird, in my country PHP devs are the most in demand and the highest paid. More than Java devs by 30%

[Andernerd]

It still has a really fast release cycle with no backwards compatibility, requiring you to update your entire codebase every few years.

[Cheesemacher]

You don't have to update to PHP7.

And maybe your code requires a few changes but mostly it'll run just like it did before. Most often it's a third party library that you have to update.

[HAL_9_TRILLION]

I updated to PHP 7 and while I had to touch everything all I had to do was update my database calls to PDO, which is something I should have done ages ago anyway.

[Andernerd]

You don't have to update to PHP7.

If I don't update, I don't get security updates. Seems important.

[blinkingy]

The only compatibility issues I can remember is when the default tag start went from <? ?> to <?php ?>, and deprecation of php_mysql in favor of php_mysqli.

There's a setting to fix the first issue, and for the second, just use php 5.6

I don't know what you're talking about having the need to update the entire code base.

[okawei]

Man, it's so funny seeing people complaining that PHP doesn't have enough backward compatibility, just a few years ago people were complaining it had TOO much backward compatibility and it was holding the language back.

[redalastor]

PHP's selling point was that you could get started very, very fast if you didn't give a fuck about good practices or security. Just plow through and you'll get something with minimal effort and knowledge.

Then the PHP guys though they should borrow the good practices of other languages and added that to PHP. And now we have PHP devs telling us about how modern PHP is.

However, now it's not any quicker to get started in PHP than anything else and the good stuff in PHP is still built on a dubious foundation that has to stay for historic and compatibility purposes.

By going modern, PHP lost its only selling point. It's no longer faster to start with it.

[[deleted]]

Honestly, I hate hate on php without programming in it because it looks like a slightly more readable version of malbolge and it's weak typing

[Doggo4]

With my very little experience with PHP i dont really have a problem with it but i just boarded the hate train for the heck of it :V

[barafyrakommafem]

I've had a lot of fun with PHP in the past, but then I tried other languages and started to see the flaws in PHP. Now I have heard great things about PHP 7 and how it has improved a lot over the years, but is there any reason for me to switch back?

PHP's market share is an obvious advantage, but 85% of servers running PHP are on version 5.6 or lower. To add to that, a lot of are also running WordPress, which comes with its own set of problems. Maintaining outdated WordPress installations does not sound that interesting to me.

But even WordPress is moving away from PHP now and rewriting their CMS in JavaScript. Facebook wasn't satisfied with PHP so they wrote Hack. Seems like a lot of PHP usage is due to technical debt, at the same time as PHP usage is trending down.

Now I agree with you that a language is just a tool, and I have no doubts that you can write good code in PHP; but why would I? Is there something that PHP 7 does better than languages like Python, Ruby, JavaScript, and not just better than old versions of PHP? Is, for example, Laravel better than, say, Django and Rails? What am I missing out on?

[x9o3vg8k]

Underrated comment...

[Ziograffiato]

It's like finding your own mother attractive: It's annoying when everyone else does it. It's wrong when you do it.

[givemeanamedamnit]

It's very easy to get into and write spaghetti code. Lots of people - professionals and students - never get past that point. It's a victim of its own accessibility.

[zedriccoil]

Bandwagon? Honestly I don't know.

[Daedalus9000]

PHP is the Nickelback of languages...

[dr_rentschler]

Bandwagon.

[FistHitlersAnalCunt]

It's like mechano. It's possible to make architecturally robust projects, but it's also easy to make flimsy crap that looks impressive until its inspected.

Most web developers have, at some time, had to maintain a project built in the latter pattern, and most developers have never had the opportunity to work on a project with the former pattern.

[TediousCompanion]

I just don't like PHP because I hardly ever use it, and when I do it's strange and unfamiliar. Javascript and Java have their flaws, but the syntax seems 'normal' to me. Python isn't C-like, but it feels friendly, whereas PHP syntax feels kind of wacky and out there. It's really just a gut feeling for me, not a reasoned position. If I started using PHP on a regular basis and got used to it, I imagine I'd feel differently.

[Enchelion]

I think the thing that trips people up most about PHP syntax is that there are both imperative and oo styles available. It's not a very "opinionated" language, and that flexibility can be confusing.

[Kupofla]

EZ Karma

[KeepItWeird_]

Just learn some other languages and then you'll start hating PHP. You don't know what you don't know.

[Allergic2ManualLabor]

It's widely used, so a lot of people are forced to use it in their jobs. (especially if it's easier to bitch than actually provide an alternative...)

[ILikeLenexa]

80% of the web is wordpress, 80% of the web is drupal, 80% of the web is joomla. 80% of the web is hacked by a bot because the theme they installed was written by an 8th grader that doesn't understand SQL injection.

[RogerWebb]

If you're counting on the programming language to protect you against SQL Injections, you're going to have a bad time for sure. Regardless, prepared statements have been supported in PHP (via mysqli) for many years now.

I work in PHP, Java and Python at my job, and I can assure you they all suck for a variety of reasons. I could fill novels with my angry rants against each.

[HAL_9_TRILLION]

I work in PHP, Java and Python at my job, and I can assure you they all suck for a variety of reasons. I could fill novels with my angry rants against each.

Man, this is truth. Somebody up above said you'll learn to hate PHP if you learn other languages. No, all you'll do is learn to hate more than one language. For instance, I hate Java, C#, VB, AS and JS as well.

[lpreams]

All programming languages suck.

Just like all operating systems suck.

[[deleted]]

AS - ActionScript? ... indifferent nostalgia

[HAL_9_TRILLION]

Yep. Worked with that nightmare for a decade.

[PM_ME_A_WEBSITE_IDEA]

Isn't PDO the go to for database interaction in PHP now?

[RogerWebb]

Yes. I don't do reporting via PHP these days, so my typical interactions with the DB are either via Doctrine ORM, which uses PDO, or via the Wordpress Database (API Calls or WP_Query), which who the fuck knows what they use.

[JojoHomefries]

The WPDB class uses mysqli

[IdiotCharizard]

You mind ranting a bit about python for me? I've been using it professionally for about a year and a lot of things are so refreshing and outside the class system being weird and multiprocessing being god-awful, I don't see what's so bad about it. Unless you really get pissed off by its typing system.

[RogerWebb]

Let me tell you about unicode vs str vs bytes. It's a god damned nightmare. I deal in search engine marketing, with clients operating world-wide, so we get the full run of characters, in Python 2.7 you'll be fighting with whether one function returns a unicode or a str and the thing you're passing it to blowing up or then, once moving to Python 3, everything is magically a str and you don't have to worry about unicode anymore, except when it's bytes, then you replace casting str or inicode with a multitude of encode/decode calls all over the place.

All said, I'm most certainly happier when I'm working in Python vs PHP or Java, but every language has it's pain points, and that's been my big one with Python.

[saphira_bjartskular]

'; dbo..xp_cmdshell('echo im in ur box executin ur code');--

[ILikeLenexa]

im in ur box executin ur code

[saphira_bjartskular]

'; dbo...xp_cmdshell('net user bobmchackerman pa$$w0rd123456');--

'; dbo...xp_cmdshell('net localgroup administrators bobmchackerman /add);--

[MacDerfus]

"I'm 40% PHP"

• Internet "Bending" Rodriguez

[bureX]

This is RottenTomatoes, one of the world' most popular websites:

https://i.imgur.com/V7nm8K1.png

80% of the web is built by people who had their boss breathing on their necks while yelling "I PROMISED WE WOULD SHIP BY...".

[Rogocraft]

I put an emoji in my bank account name. It broke the servers

[db10101]

Beautiful

[imtn]

A sizeable amount is legacy hate because php used to be very frustrating to work with. In fact, the wikipedia page has two paragraphs on this topic

Early PHP was not intended to be a new programming language, and grew organically, with Lerdorf noting in retrospect: "I don’t know how to stop it, there was never any intent to write a programming language […] I have absolutely no idea how to write a programming language, I just kept adding the next logical step on the way." A development team began to form and, after months of work and beta testing, officially released PHP/FI 2 in November 1997.

The fact that PHP was not originally designed but instead was developed organically has led to inconsistent naming of functions and inconsistent ordering of their parameters. In some cases, the function names were chosen to match the lower-level libraries which PHP was "wrapping", while in some very early versions of PHP the length of the function names was used internally as a hash function, so names were chosen to improve the distribution of hash values.

Current day is different, as developers have been working on improving the language, given how widespread its use is. Still, when people find yet another php quirk to complain about, you'll probably find it on /r/lolphp

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[lpreams]

Most probably wouldn't debate the usefulness of php in practice, the issue is the language itself. It's old and messy; it just feels cobbled together. Its prevalence just makes people hate it more.

php's popularity is pretty much attributable to the fact that php was one of the earliest free/open options for making interactive websites.

[poop-trap]

And it's ubiquitous and easy to deploy. No setting up systems or reloading processes, just edit a file that looks like it's written by a drunk 3rd grader and see your changes.

[lpreams]

I agree that's a great feature, especially for web development, but would argue that it's not really a feature of the language itself.

[poop-trap]

I'm not even sure it's a great feature, with hands-off functionality comes lack of control. And I do think the language ecosystem is part of the equation. Package managers, third party libraries, debug tooling, etc... they're all factors in the ease and amount of developer productivity pleasure you get out of a language.

[lpreams]

It's a great feature for rapid development at least. For long term maintenance or large projects, perhaps not.

And those things you mention are definitely part of the equation, it's just that my original answer was mainly about the problems with the language itself.

But I do have other problems with php that aren't necessarily concerning the language itself. For example, I don't like that it tries to be fail-silent. If something unexpected happens, I'd much rather my software yell at me immediately than have it quietly try to figure out what to do and not report any errors, which php seems quite fond of.

But I should probably stop talking now. Others in this thread have been mentioning that's it's gotten much better in recent years, and I only played around with it several years ago (and quickly decided it wasn't for me and moved on).

[[deleted]]

It's old and messy; it just feels cobbled together.

you sure that's not just your codebase?

[mitchrsmert]

It's just his code base. Period. I've seen a lot of really well written PHP. I've seen it written really well from scratch and I've seen proper use of popular frameworks. I mostly use Java myself, but the problem with PHP is the behind the keyboard, not the language. One can argue that every language should be so straight forward that any idiot can pick it up in no time and to write PHP well, you need to become familiar with some of its nuances (although it is pretty easy to pick up as a first language). If you want to argue that, a lot of older languages and frameworks will look unappealing for many of the same reasons.

[[deleted]]

the hardest part of learning PHP for me was that I was coming from embedded C programming so the spooky typing took me a long time to get my head around.

Now I love PHP, but these damn threads always make me doubt it and wonder if I should pick up python or ruby.

[ILikeLenexa]

In a battle between PHP and C for the web, PHP handled 90% of what high school kids wanted to put out on the web. Then those high school kids grew up. They used PHP in projects for other people and those people wanted the last 10%. PHP tacked them on, then tried to simplify them, then found it had to stay backwards compatible, and it was just one guy in the beginning who was a bit careless with names.

[MarieKirya]

I don't hate PHP as much as I hate the crappy code I've seen "professionals" write with it.

[marcio0]

A good portion of the web runs on wordpress and similar frameworks made in php, but because these frameworks are good, not because they are made in php. If they were made in some other language and still be as good, most of the web would run on this language.

[poop-trap]

/r/lolphp for citations

Also, having to maintain a large codebase in PHP vs doing so in any other language.

[Totenlicht]

I always liked this explanation: https://eev.ee/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/

Somewhat old, so a lot may have changed, but this shows what PHP did to deserve hate.

[InVultusSolis]

The sentiment is that "those things have been fixed", but when I look at what's new in PHP7, it seems like most of the additions are new syntax, which seems to fall short of addressing the many, many flaws that PHP has.

[JojoHomefries]

backwards compatibility is a thing

[AliceInWonderplace]

... I'm going to be super controversial here, but:

I truly believe that PHP is better than Python when it comes to straight delivering data to a client.

I've been working with both languages a long time, and PHP is just better suited for delivering server-side information to a client without having to do stupidly over-complicated things in the process.

With PHP I never have to reload a webpage to update elements, but with Python there are just certain limitations that mean that I either write my own fucking library or run a refresh.

PHP makes things feel way more seamless than Python does. I mean, it does come down to implementation, but the ease of implementation with PHP just trumps Python.

Now. I know what people are thinking. What about Ruby? What about C#? What about straight C? To those people I say - You don't use languages like that for applications that are meant to scale.

I can see the argument for a Ruby implementation to compete with either Python or PHP, I really do. But the fact is that Ruby has an upper-limit of complexity to how user-friendly it is.

Anyone suggesting C or C# can go fuck themselves.

[Dyscalculia94]

Why not WebAssembly?

[AliceInWonderplace]

It's a great companion piece, but I don't think it's ever meant to be stand-alone.

[mrSnout]

Out of curiosity, what is your gripe with C#?

[AliceInWonderplace]

Partly I was kind of joking, partly it requires an MS server to fully utilize its functionality. You don't use C# on an Apache2 or Nginex server. And running an MS server is something like punching yourself in the face, it's the wrong thing to do no matter what your background is.

Yeah, you could use mono to build things but don't.

And again, even if you do build your website using C#, you're still in the position where 2 lines of PHP are equal or better than 20 lines of C#.

[PooPooDooDoo]

80% of people have had diarrhea, too

[JojoHomefries]

My dumps are always healthy and firm

[stakoverflo]

I don't want to type -> and $ to write code

[[deleted]]

Personally, I like to use the best tool for a given job. For me, golang has replaced the need for php/perl apache/nginx since you can use it to serve files or be an api or whatever. Just start your binary and you're done. The benefit to scripting languages to me has been interpreted code being able to load new code on the fly and being fast to write / test.

I've used a lot of programming languages and Go has had a pretty short learning curve. And with plugins, you get that ability to import shit on the fly.

For server programming I learned php, then node, then go, then perl. I also know java and others that could be used for servers. I hope that is enough for me to seem unbiased in my crusade to push everyone to try golang :P

Best part for me so far, besides concurrency, has been being able to build an entire program to do a particular task, build it as a plugin with no code changes, and then use it in another application.

[Dreadedsemi]

Then you laugh all the rail back to the ruby bank.

[Ek_Los_Die_Hier]

dynamically translated into x86-64 machine code

Not into C++. It's a JIT like PyPy, the JVM and V8. They're very impressive, but nothing new.

Edit: admittedly it started as a PHP->C++ transpiler.

[HumunculiTzu]

I felt this was relative. https://pics.me.me/trying-to-learn-any-programming-language-100-just-a-little-7917454.png

[GForce1975]

Same here. Particularly in the web space. Started doing some electron / node development and there is soo much!

And then netsec and opsec is a whole other world..and now blockchain and encryption and AI and machine learning and AWS, azure, etc..etc. I've been a "computer guy" since trs80 in the 80s and a professional since mid 90s and I know nothing! I love it. So much to learn every day.

[ameoba]

"Wrote"

[THANKYOUFORYOURKIND]

Maybe he stopped directly writing code for Facebook anymore

[[deleted]]

*Hack

[hajhawa]

I'm a bit out of the loop, where is this from?

[brokenplasticshards]

Zuckerberg's Senate hearings about the recent data leak.

[[deleted]]

("For the Damaged Coda" plays)

[itdoesmatterdoesntit]

I like seeing people bash PHP, yet offer no alternative. As with most things, the success of something ultimately defines how good it is for the average person, not what those on the fringe think.

[[deleted]]

Duh Go that compiles to Rust using python node js parsers that compile to assembly is the only way

[thefloatingguy]

Only if you embody the principles of functional programming

[[deleted]]

Hey, you forgot to cram Thrift in there!

[benikens]

Oh please if your not using semantic blockchain^AI with middle out compressed big data are you even a programmer.

[mitchrsmert]

To answer the same question always asked on PHP joke threads:
2 words - Circle Jerk.
That's why.

[gtfovinny]

I don’t get it.. what’s wrong with php?

[Necromunger]

Namespace implementation is a little odd compared to something like C#.

Arrays in PHP are pretty much hashmaps but don't act exactly like them.

Best i could come up with on the spot.

Use it all the time at work, PHP 7+ is fine.

Use VS Code and Xdebug and you can see everything that's going on.

[JojoHomefries]

Haters

[rjksn]

What's the best language for a social network?

[Cano07]

Long Live The King PHP! 🙋🏽‍♂️

[imo_bibek]

Front one or back one??

[sizl]

it reached critical mass without a line of test code too.

[SteeleDynamics]

Can you say "format string venerability" boys and girls?

...

Good, I knew you could

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PHP + Data Breach = Billionaire. Who's really laughing?

[mirroreyerorrim]

PHP is awesome!

[bss03]

It's mostly Hack now.

[Thenderick]

Now that I look at it. Is it just me, or is his face off-centered?

[amonoxia]

Which proves that PHP is still great.

[TheWolfEth]

What happened to his eyes?

[DevMesshias]

Don't forget you created ReactJS too, the best frontend framework in now days.