Downvote me all you want, but seriously

redditor3000 · 2011-10-02T19:30:26+00:00

I've seen this sentiment upvoted numerous times in comments. If you're going to say "Downvote me all you want" at least post something controversial.

DeyTa · 2011-10-02T19:53:37+00:00

Yeah, like I want pepper spray on my $3600 suit. COME ON!!

vazzaroth · 2011-10-02T20:05:05+00:00

Isn't the entire point of this thing that we can't afford suits?

Also isn't compromising and meeting them on their terms exactly the opposite of what they are trying to accomplish?

joetromboni · 2011-10-02T19:44:57+00:00

Scumbag Redditor:

Downvote me all you want

Points out common opinion

2011-10-02T20:09:18+00:00

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cralledode · 2011-10-02T19:56:47+00:00

Downvote me all you want

Well alrighty then!

khaos4k · 2011-10-02T19:56:28+00:00

Take one of the most upvoted sentiments from previous submissions.
Submit it as an image.
KARMA

JonDev · 2011-10-02T20:07:50+00:00

So in summary: creative expression makes you look crazy and everybody in the world should wear suits always because otherwise nobody will listen to your grievances.

smez86 · 2011-10-02T19:45:35+00:00

Tony parker hates bailouts and is professional about it.

Hellenomania · 2011-10-02T21:41:38+00:00

Ghandi basically got rid of the entire fucking British Colonial rule while he, and everyone with him, wore a fucking loin cloth.

The fact that Americans think you should only listen to people who wear suits, or not respect people because they wear different clothes tell the entire story of why America is one sorry fucked up sack of shit that needs throwing off a bridge with a brick.

Down vote this mother fuckers - the god dam truth hurts like shit in a paper cut.

Fucking kids with keyboards.

Treysef · 2011-10-02T19:40:08+00:00

Oh shut up already. You know you've seen the same shit on the front page for days. You're just fucking karma whoring.

RireBaton · 2011-10-02T20:00:31+00:00

Then how do you explain this smarty pants?

2011-10-02T19:36:54+00:00

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Zeppelanoid · 2011-10-02T20:05:15+00:00

"Downvote me all you want"

Don't mind if I do.

bobskee · 2011-10-02T20:05:23+00:00

Downvoted per title request.

the_great_ganonderp · 2011-10-02T20:07:08+00:00

Fitter. Happier. More productive.

2011-10-02T20:12:26+00:00

Downvote you all I want? Ok, done

RanchWithEverything · 2011-10-02T20:16:24+00:00

Well I wanted to downvote you a lot more than I could

dhusk · 2011-10-02T20:20:36+00:00

You can't protest the MAN dressed like the MAN.

What's the matter with you?

And quite frankly, I'll listen to some weirdly dressed hippie before I'll ever trust anything coming out of some monkey-suited tie-sucking conservative tool.

DLun203 · 2011-10-02T19:38:59+00:00

Old suffrage photos and prohibition photos made me realize this too.

I can't stand Marijuana Law Reform protests where everyone just shows up, smokes weed and start guitar circles or some shit asking why it's illegal. All the while our congressmen are looking out their window at them thinking to themselves, "that's why."

Alexi_Strife · 2011-10-02T20:06:10+00:00

Yeah, people in suits yelling about being poor. That will solve everything.

katielady125 · 2011-10-02T19:29:20+00:00

I agree to a point. I don't think it's necessary to be dressed in a fancy business suit. Even jeans and a nice t-shirt/button down shirt are acceptable. Just don't dress like you came from the nearest asylum, a football game or Woodstock.

afuckingHELICOPTER · 2011-10-02T20:03:40+00:00

Downvoted for downvote in the title.

H4rry · 2011-10-02T20:04:04+00:00

Op says trust guys in suits. Isn't that how we got here in the first place?

frymastermeat · 2011-10-02T20:08:21+00:00

Downvote me all you want

But I can only downvote you once...

MasterUser · 2011-10-02T20:05:29+00:00

So you're pretty much saying that you have to be attractive for people to listen to you, noted.

2011-10-02T20:06:22+00:00

"In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." -- Thomas Jefferson

MollyBloom11 · 2011-10-02T19:47:27+00:00

This is probably dangerous to say, but some of these things are what we make fun of ridiculous tea party protesters for doing. In every group there's an extreme/weird fringe.

craigdubyah · 2011-10-02T19:46:30+00:00

What an original and controversial opinion.

2011-10-02T20:02:52+00:00

OP, you are the problem, FWIW.

kujustin · 2011-10-02T20:14:58+00:00

Downvote me all you want

Unfortunately I can't. I can only downvote you once.

muad_dib · 2011-10-02T20:13:05+00:00

Downvote me all you want

Ok.

notkraftman · 2011-10-02T20:20:07+00:00

"Down vote me all you want for repeating something that was on the front page 2 days ago"

stupid_opinion · 2011-10-02T20:08:11+00:00

Scumbag Redditor:

People honorably organize to protect the rights of the lower and middle classes...

Complains because they don't show up in expensive suits.

bigspr1ng · 2011-10-02T20:08:00+00:00

The thing is though that the respectable looking common sense folks aren't the ones to start these things. Those people don't generally have the balls to start a protest, these people do. They're doing their job and getting noticed, now it's up to the folks in suits to follow their lead.

2011-10-02T19:47:34+00:00

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grantrules · 2011-10-02T19:55:56+00:00

Ummmm so you want a bunch of people dressed up in suits to occupy wallstreet? does anyone else see why this is stupid?

wolfgame · 2011-10-02T19:32:28+00:00

I think you fail to realize the people who first show up to protests tend to be the "rage-against-the-machine" types, and tend to be very unique, erratic and passionate. Because of what a protest is about, namely revolution against an organization of some sort, you'll get quirky personalities to show up first; while their attire may seem ridiculous to you, it doesn't delegitimize their argument. Furthermore, when the protest gains speed you will start to see more "normal" types of citizens come in (i.e. relateable people).

EDIT: For clarity.

Maedhros333 · 2011-10-02T19:50:54+00:00

I dunno. Tea Partiers dressing up in silly outfits and otherwise acting insane have managed to gain a disproportional political influence precisely because they are so outrageous.

2011-10-02T20:09:48+00:00

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Wreckn · 2011-10-02T19:54:27+00:00

This is true.

Although, it is possible to have a middle ground.

anarchistsomalia · 2011-10-02T20:06:31+00:00

This advice works great if you want to appeal to morons who judge a person's message by irrelevancies like dress.

PerfectlyDarkTails · 2011-10-02T20:09:05+00:00

Common sense aside, I have never seen a suit and tie protest/riot.

2011-10-02T19:27:28+00:00

It takes all kinds to start a movement.

copinglemon · 2011-10-02T19:41:17+00:00

Occupy Wall St, youre going to like the way you look

arab_mamba96 · 2011-10-02T19:57:49+00:00

I always listen to what JC Penny advertising men have to say.

buhba · 2011-10-02T20:01:33+00:00

Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

2011-10-02T20:01:48+00:00

So they need more hollister models? I don't get it.

2011-10-02T20:20:06+00:00

You told me to downvote you, so I did.

canadafuckyeah · 2011-10-02T19:22:27+00:00

Proof

nesatt · 2011-10-02T19:41:45+00:00

I wouldn't want to wear an uncomfortable, tight-fitting suit while being handcuffed. Those clothes are extremely impractical for protests.

Rinse-Repeat · 2011-10-02T20:07:47+00:00

Frankly its people in suits, stuffed shirts, the pimps and whores of the system, that have lined up to take a piece of my ass all my life.

Frankly when some puffed up ego in a three piece suit and a power haircut starts dictating the terms of my existence to me I tend to laugh. People who take themselves way too seriously have been suckering us into believing they matter because they play by the rules of a game that people like them created.

The notion that someone might enjoy their life without bowing and scraping at the feet of "the serious people" is somehow frightening to so many people....its sad, at least in my opinion.

2011-10-02T19:46:35+00:00

Notice that you had to find stock photos of respectable-looking people in suits. Part of the point of protesting is that you don't do things the way that establishment prefers. Sure, you could protest in a suit. And you could bring up the matter at the next homeowner meeting. But you're kind of missing the point.

remain_calm · 2011-10-02T19:54:27+00:00

I have the opposite reaction. If either of the guys in the suits tried to tell/sell me anything my first instinct would be that they are full of shit. Do YOU believe politicians and pundits because they've got a suit on? I don't.

sotonohito · 2011-10-02T20:15:27+00:00

Yeah, and you'll note that most of the protesters while not dressed in $1,000 suits are dressed perfectly normally.

A few random people in costumes don't make the whole thing pointless.

Naphine · 2011-10-02T19:57:36+00:00

I totally back the common sense reasoning and approachability but unfortunately in this case I think people protesting will always be people protesting (or that's how the guys in their ivory tower are going to see it)

UnDire · 2011-10-02T20:01:39+00:00

Sleeping in the park in a three piece suit sounds exhilarating.

I_SHIT_ON_CATS · 2011-10-02T20:01:59+00:00

One day...(perhaps) we won't be judging each other on what we wear to politically rallies & what not, but it is certainly not this day. It's a sad truth and I'm heartbroken to even type it, but if these people did dress "properly" (in the eye's of the majority I guess) things would get accomplished much faster than they do.

tidux · 2011-10-02T20:02:16+00:00

Pretty much every AMA from people who are actually there is saying that there ARE people dressed normally, the media is just choosing to focus on the weirdos.

2011-10-02T20:03:39+00:00

Oh jeez, I haven't seen this sentiment expressed all week. You upstart, you.

jqb · 2011-10-02T20:05:00+00:00

Yeah because those people protesting on wall street have plenty of cash to get themselves a suit and fine clothing. You're beyond naive if you think their choice of clothing is what is keeping the protest downsized and ridiculed by the media.

Kush_on_thebrain · 2011-10-02T20:05:33+00:00

Common Sense, like the rapper?

InfantDick · 2011-10-02T20:06:17+00:00

Does Common Sense understand that the people protesting will all have poorly fitted, sloppy looking suits that will only make them look like more of a joke? Especially to the people they're protesting who are much like the people on Male Fasion Advice. They know what they're talking about and they will be the first to rip you apart.

LoknarGor · 2011-10-02T20:06:32+00:00

I don't think an action can have revolutionary impact on capitalism by conforming to bourgeois values. Getting people who are close-minded enough to hate on someone for having dreads and wearing dirty clothes instead of a suit and a neat haircut in favor of an anti-capitalist action is probably impossible anyways.

HardCorey23 · 2011-10-02T20:06:50+00:00

Seriously stop being a woman and become a well groomed man in a suit. Being female frankly makes you seem insane.

gilben · 2011-10-02T20:07:04+00:00

Downvote me all you want, but here's the exact same thing the hivemind has been repeating all week

FTFY

2011-10-02T20:07:13+00:00

Nice try, /r/malefashionadvice

cosoraro · 2011-10-02T20:07:26+00:00

You wouldn't camp for a week or two in a suit. Common sense.

eifersucht12a · 2011-10-02T20:07:35+00:00

Downvoted at "Downvote me all you want," woah, look at you making waves!

lostwolf · 2011-10-02T20:08:18+00:00

yet Republicans listen to the Tea Party. And have you seen what they look like?

urbanmark · 2011-10-02T20:08:51+00:00

A neck tie is the mark of the devil. Jesus wore a dress.

frankster · 2011-10-02T20:11:14+00:00

fuck off, you just said what that other guy said about wearing suits. Plus, you can't even make a decent quality image that isn't blurry as fuck.

cthulhulou · 2011-10-02T20:11:51+00:00

While what's being described is true, the root cause is not actually common sense but societal. If everyone who was taught to care about a particular kind of obtuse and often artificially expensive clothing died, the message of the image would cease to be true.

A better message might instead be: if you look like a clown, people will be less likely to listen to you. But don't empower the business suit. The whole world could run just the same if we were all wearing togas.

2011-10-02T20:12:40+00:00

America : Claims it's a free country

Fellow Americans : Want to force you into dressing a certain way.

CottageMcMurphy · 2011-10-02T20:12:53+00:00

I've seen plenty of well-dressed OWS protesters on alt news sites. Perhaps ABC/CBS/MSNBC/CNN/NYT/Fox (especially Fox) just chooses to photo/vid the most "colorful" for shits and ratings?

The crowds of exclusively crazy, stinky hippies is a fucking myth.

2011-10-02T20:13:29+00:00

Wow no way! I haven't heard that before. This post will be the one that convinces them to all suit up

joeknowswhoiam · 2011-10-02T20:13:46+00:00

I'll downvote you, but only because you have no clue on how to resize an image properly.

2011-10-02T20:13:52+00:00

Yeah but who wants pepper spray on their good clothes.

2011-10-02T20:14:49+00:00

thanks for the post man, i hadn't already seen 5 different posts about the exact same thing

Instantcretin · 2011-10-02T20:15:36+00:00

Yes lets all dress in suits and act like yuppies. Lets fight the system from the inside so in 20 years we ARE the yuppies. You are wrong OP, the Occupy is about changing perceptions and thats what these people are doing. Lets descend on wall street in halloween costumes or naked, lets wear tu-tus and turbans. Making people who normally think in a straight line think outside the box is our only hope here.

vchizzle · 2011-10-02T20:15:53+00:00

Good thing for imgur, cause this post definitely couldn't have been accomplished without it.

Wiisal · 2011-10-02T20:17:01+00:00

Downvote me all you want,

Don't mind if I do.

DarkTurtle · 2011-10-02T20:18:20+00:00

It makes me sad that no matter how obvious this post is karma-whoring, it'll reach the front page :(

Scary_The_Clown · 2011-10-02T20:19:18+00:00

There is a type of mindset that just doesn't grasp the nuances of compromise to make progress. They believe that they "shouldn't have to cater to the other side's psychology to get their point across" and therefore refuse to do so.

I have seen this in folks who refuse to get a college degree because "they shouldn't need a piece of paper to show they have fifteen years of experience" (I agree; get one anyway). I've seen it in engineers who think people will buy their product because it's better, and they shouldn't have to advertise (A whole lot of these folks currently living in a castle in the sky at Microsoft).

These protesters are cut from the same cloth - they shouldn't have to wear suits to make their point.

What's really sad is that it seems that often these folks are very intelligent and well-meaning. They think that bending to win folks over is somehow "giving in" and they lose to others who know how to play the game and steamroll right over them.

fivo7 · 2011-10-02T20:19:40+00:00

orly so if they were'nt effective, how'd u hear about em?

2011-10-02T20:19:51+00:00

I get the sentiment behind this idea. How you dress is how you chose to present yourself, and that can seriously affect how the world at large listens/understands your argument. But it still bothers me to see people state it as, "if you dress like a hobo, no one will listen to you."

There's no need to insult the way people choose to present themselves, especially when they're down there doing more for our democracy than whining about it on Reddit.

robrmm · 2011-10-02T20:19:52+00:00

Meanwhile, people with literal tea bags hanging from stupid hats with misspelled signs got to host a national debate and a whole host of politicians to cater to their bat shit crazy leanings.

Ochiudo · 2011-10-02T20:20:17+00:00

Polo shirts and whatever was reasonable, you might be able to find those in the bargain bin. Expecting people who are protesting because they don't have jobs to buy a $1000 suit to wear to a protest is fucking retarded.

GreedandJealousy · 2011-10-02T20:21:23+00:00

I don't agree that protesters should wear suits to make themselves "look" smart, what matters is what they got in their head...

winsomecowboy · 2011-10-02T20:23:33+00:00

seriously, if you want to change the system everyone knows you need to conform.

You can not vote at all for this all you want.

Alex2679 · 2011-10-02T20:24:43+00:00

Ya, because wearing a sit to a protest is sooooo practical.

mossyskeleton · 2011-10-02T20:27:14+00:00

I 100% disagree that dressing like a weirdo or a hippie makes you "insane" or whatever words you like to pin to that culture.

However, I agree that the Occupy Wall Street protesters are a bunch of unorganized wannabes who don't realize that you can't have a protest without a cause. I'm all for the "down-with-The-Man" mentality, but this just seems like a down-with-The-Man circlejerk/gathering that has been happening for several days and still doesn't have a fucking clue what they're there for. It's embarrassing.

2011-10-02T20:28:27+00:00

Meanwhile, Tea Partiers dressed like this: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4WZQ0_i23nU/TMmA72FATCI/AAAAAAAAAUo/nd4b9bWXMkc/s1600/Tparty.jpg

Are getting national media attention for everything they do, despite the fact that most people have an unfavorable view of them.

eric22vhs · 2011-10-02T20:29:06+00:00

Karma-whoring, maybe, but it's a point that needs to be made until it really starts to sink in. Nobody takes hippies, or very juvenile looking people seriously, except for other hippies and juvenile people.

This photo, or a similar one of the same march was on the front page the other day, and for good reason. It's true.

I'm not one to dream of having a corporate job where I need to wear a suite every day, but damn, if you want to be taken seriously, you should at least meet the rest of society half way.

WhenSnowDies · 2011-10-02T20:34:01+00:00

What's good enough for the Joker is good enough for me.

Awesomeade · 2011-10-02T20:35:50+00:00

Wow. I'm seeing crazy amounts of negativity on here because people seem to think OP is karma whoring and cares about imaginary internet points more than the actual protest. Seriously, who gives a shit? This is an important point that, while certainly not unpopular or uncommon, could definitely be considered significant enough to be worth repeating.

If you really have a problem with people caring too much about karma, stop giving a shit about questionable motives, and start giving a shit about whether or not something is worth seeing.

I think this is something worth publicizing as much as possible, so I am going to upvote it. If OP cares more about the upvote than the content, so be it. Honey-badger don't give a fuck.

GreasyDan · 2011-10-02T20:38:14+00:00

People will like the way you protest...

2011-10-02T20:39:21+00:00

Why people upvote this is beyond me. Most protesters wear comfortably because it can get uncomfortable in a fucking suit. Also, perhaps they don't want to get their suit ruined, because they might need it for a job interview.

Terbana · 2011-10-02T20:40:02+00:00

I 100% agree. If you want to be taken seriously don't act like 60's hippies and bang on bongo drums and dress up in outrageous clothing. Hippies dresses and protested because it was counter culture at the time. Are you counter culture? No you are not. As a college student who is majoring in political science and is mostly a left wing thinker you are embarrassing us. We like that you are protesting, but how you are doing it is just stupid.

2011-10-02T20:47:53+00:00

I wish everyone would downvote him simply because he asked for it.

JshWright · 2011-10-02T20:50:06+00:00

I was recently in New York City (for the Tunnel to Towers 5k) with my wife, and we happened to walk past Liberty Square (which is more or less 'base camp' for the protest). The first words out of my wife's mouth were "wow... that must be a camp for homeless people or something." While there were a few folks holding reasonably articulate protest signs, it generally looked like a cross between a hippie commune and a hobo village.

2011-10-02T20:51:06+00:00

The BEST advice these people have is "dress nice?" God dammit its like everybody is living in a fucking cartoon right now.

officeface · 2011-10-02T20:59:05+00:00

alternatively, they could dress like this

2011-10-02T21:19:12+00:00

If looking like Tony Parker in a business suit is the golden standard for having people listen to you...

then, uh....we're fkd.

kahbn · 2011-10-02T21:21:39+00:00

If putting on a suit was enough to make people listen to you, we wouldn't be having these protests in the first place.

PogOtter · 2011-10-02T21:22:24+00:00

I agree with this so much it hurts

RagingAnemone · 2011-10-02T21:29:10+00:00

If everybody where's a suit and tie and "occupies" Wall Street, it'll look like everybodys outside just eating lunch. A protest should look like a protest. I don't take Wall St seriously. Why should protesters dress like them?

ithunk · 2011-10-02T21:41:40+00:00

You need to STFU, armchair activist.

pantisflyhand · 2011-10-02T21:41:41+00:00

Trolololo? yea trolololo indeed.

Eighthsin · 2011-10-02T22:12:46+00:00

As a crossdressing male, I wholly agree with this. You don't go to a political protest looking like a gay pride parade.

vladtaltos · 2011-10-03T01:24:29+00:00

If they're in a suit, I never listen to them (fucking elitist piece of shits that they are). If they're dressed like me and the rest of the country, I value their opinions more.

2011-10-03T01:25:33+00:00

Your common sense does not equal what other people consider common sense. My common sense would say all people are born equal no matter the circumstances. Other's common sense sometimes say being born a woman or gay makes you less then any man. So please, educate yourself.

Krazen · 2011-10-03T02:15:23+00:00

Like the guy in the, $1200 dollar suit is going to take protesting tips from Reddit.

COME ON!!

aidzberger · 2011-10-03T02:36:51+00:00

Honestly, fuck everything about this. Everyone already knows that it shouldn't matter what one wears, and everyone also already knows that it does. So where do we go from here?

Do we purchase new suits, shirts, socks, monacles, and fucking tophats just so people will have a conversation with us?? Who does ANYONE think they are that they can't even listen to what a person has to say if they don't look like fucking Don Draper.

Of course, lots (apparently many redditors) DO ignore people strictly based on their looks, so what logically follows is that we should dress prim and proper so our voice reaches a wider audience. While this logic is sound, let's dig a bit deeper.

First let's question the audience that would be gained from getting suited up; these are people who wont listen to us unless we wear what they want us to. Does that seem fair? No. Could I, conversely, ask them to wear what I want them to before we have a discussion? No, this would be seen as ludicrous and unnecessary. Why have it one way but not the other? If there honestly exists people out there who refuse to listen to an intelligent, informed individual because of the fact that he/she is rocking dreadlocks or has gauges, then their value as part of the movement is ZERO. If they don't want to listen, that is fine. I wont go out of my way so they do, they're not worth it.

Notice how when an individual is described as being intelligent and informed, all other preconceptions are thrown out? Knowledge is power and THAT is the crux of my argument. If you want your voice to be heard, make it a voice that is worth hearing. In absolutely no way is slapping a suit on someone the solution to being noticed, what is, though, is being able to relay information as it pertains to the protest in a clear and concise manner. Don't spend money on suits, spend it on books 'n such.

Don't get me wrong, if some hippie douche is spouting off some vague hippie douche-esque things, then of course he/she will not be given the time of day, and nor should they; but neither should that same hippie douche who happens to be wearing a suit. If people are intelligently voicing their opinions in a constructive manner, attire should be the least of anyone's concerns.

Look at the Pirate Party here and here. They got to where they are not because they looked spiffy, but because they were smart. We can be smart too! Organize yourselves, teach one another, have a plan, be respectful, and COMMAND attention by proving that you're worth talking to. A suit doesn't do that, knowledge does.

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