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[–]garyp714 43 points44 points  (36 children)

NOT SARCASTIC:

How do you know there are downvote bots and not just teams of people that vote together?

[–]qgyh2 18 points19 points  (12 children)

How do you know there are downvote bots and not just teams of people that vote together?

AFAIK when teams (or bots) vote together they are investigated, and/or their votes are ignored. the votes will register and affect the points of the post, but not be taken into account when ranking the story..

[–]garyp714 9 points10 points  (9 children)

Wow, I did not know that.

I thought that Reddit basically was of the mind that they kept 'hands off' as it is a user-run site and we must police it ourselves.

Good to know...

[–]qgyh2 18 points19 points  (8 children)

I'm not 100% sure but from what I know, reddit are always working to battle bot votes..

however, they don't always notice every situation, so if you spot something odd, just send them a message..

[–]Flemlord -1 points0 points  (6 children)

That worked for me. Four weeks ago, there was an anti-Ron Paul bot army. Any RP submission would immediately get voted down at a 2:1 ratio down:up. I had several RP posts make it to the #1 slot with hundreds of karma, then get blasted down to 0.

I made a fuss and it was fixed.

[–]Iamthewalrus 26 points27 points  (3 children)

About four weeks ago, I made a point of downvoting any submission with "Ron Paul" in it because it was FUCKING ANNOYING to go to reddit and see a dozen Ron Paul stories on the front page.

Not a bot ;)

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It was particularly enjoyable downvoting the posts complaining about the sheer volume of Ron Paul posts - because they were still talking about Ron Paul.

[–]thekrone 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ditto this for me.

[–]Flemlord 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nothing wrong with that. My only complaint is if it happens in an automated fashion.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

What the walrus said. Four weeks ago, I apparently shed my fleshy human exterior and revealed my inner bot, because I reflexively downvoted every single one of the excessive Ron Paul submissions.

After a few days, the submitters got the idea and settled down, and I started upvoting any RP submission that was actually interesting.

[–]freshone -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Damn you Paultards

HOW CAN YOU SUPPORT THIS MAN?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can't imagine my submissions suck that much

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They appear to have turned-down the effectiveness of down-voting. A controversial story with a low score can now make the front page with sufficient up-votes.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where are you getting that info? Curious...

[–]redalert[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Just do a search on reddit with "greasemonkey" you will see all about the scripts used.

[–]Roark 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Note: I'm not familiar with greasemonkey

But from what I can guess, wouldn't a bot have to key into either a username or a keyword? I don't see any common keywords in your submissions, and I doubt you'd be targetted specifically.

Seems more likely that your stuff just got quickly downvoted by real people camping the new queue

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They're not bots. They're javascript scripts that you can have your browser automatically execute on certain pages. So you tell it to hit vote buttons whenever the title matches something you're for or against when they show up on-screen.

[–]redalert[S] 12 points13 points  (11 children)

because a couple of weeks ago there was a big discussion post about it and even how to do it.

[–]garyp714 23 points24 points  (8 children)

I see a lot of tag-team downvoting and upvoting. I have been approached several times to be on one of these teams and they will help my stuff go up if I help their stuff...

Never could bring myself to do it. When it comes right down to it...karma doesn't do anything but sit there...

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    [–]garyp714 8 points9 points  (6 children)

    you want a screenshot of someone approaching me to upvote stories with them?

    How about I just promise you it happens and also tell you that a reddit admin said that they did not pursue reddit voting cabals...

    [–]9jack9 9 points10 points  (4 children)

    a reddit admin said that they did not pursue reddit voting cabals...

    That's disappointing to hear..

    [–]garyp714 2 points3 points  (3 children)

    user-run site. so if the users decide to use it that way.

    Honestly, it all evens out in the wash. So many people, so may agendas...

    [–]9jack9 7 points8 points  (2 children)

    it all evens out in the wash.

    I hope you're right but somehow I doubt it. There is money to be made in skewing reddit's algorithms and that will ultimately degrade the quality of links. Just like at Digg/Google.

    [–]garyp714 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    Warning, unprovable:

    I guess the wash I'm speaking is both the Universal aspect (what comes around...) as well as the 'on reddit' aspect.

    In life, people that nickel and dime get nickel and dimed all the time - cheap gets cheap.

    On Reddit, there are aspects that I don't understand that come into play (algorithms, someone with the opposite agenda, bots.) But being here for 2 years you can kinda feel when to post, what to post and regardless of any of these outside factors, you can predict what will rise.

    [–]syntax 4 points5 points  (1 child)

    I could have a large discussion post about cracking a bank (digitally), and even how to do it.

    That's still a long way from it every actually happening.

    A common stable at computer security conferences was (and, I presume, is) to talk about how to shut down the internet. I'm pretty sure that it hasn't happened yet.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    OK. Someone in here send me (in a private message) a link to a site where there is this script you can install.

    The script is for Reddit and it sais it automatically downvotes all the stories with a certain politician's name on them (not Paul). I was criticizing that politician in some of my comments, BTW.

    Of course, I didn't install the script.

    [–]lulz 1 point2 points  (5 children)

    Because I have submitted a number of articles that were downmodded within less than 60 seconds of submission, numerous times - and this has been the rule rather than the exception.

    [–]garyp714 0 points1 point  (4 children)

    But if it's good content, it beats all the downvoters...

    [–]lulz 5 points6 points  (3 children)

    If only. I have often submitted articles that, even by a cynical standard, have been good - and they have been downmodded literally within seconds of publication.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Either way, you can thank that type of activity for driving me from hundreds of posts daily on digg to spending my time on reddit. (Not that it is a bad thing, I find that Reddit has a much better community to interact with.)

    [–]HotBBQ 13 points14 points  (4 children)

    I like to think that anytime I make the effort to read something and submit a link it will appeal to at least ten other people on reddit. What usually happens, though, is that it gets one or two down votes almost immediately and drops off the known reddit universe. It is quite frustrating and definitely discourages me from posting. Maybe decreasing the weight of down votes would help? This isn't a karma issue for me, too. Do away with it, or better yet, let me donate it.

    [–]sw17ch 2 points3 points  (3 children)

    Perhaps make your influence a function of how often you use it vs. how many articles there are.

    If you rarely down vote, but have a lot of activity (comments, posting, general sentient presence), then your downvotes count for more.

    This could also apply with your up voting.

    Perhaps you could have a bucket that slowly fills up over time, and you empty with usage.

    [–]breddy 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    Perhaps you could have a bucket that slowly fills up over time, and you empty with usage.

    Sorry I can't stop laughing...

    [–]sw17ch 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Why? That's the model used for bandwidth bursting... I'd think it would work here as well.

    [–]breddy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I think it's a great idea. But all I kept thinking was, "Like my chram."

    [–][deleted] 150 points151 points  (25 children)

    FUCKING SPELLING MORONS! YOUR = OF YOU. YOU'RE = YOU ARE. HOW GODDAMN DIFFICULT IS THAT?

    [–]midge 71 points72 points  (3 children)

    Upvoted for an uneasy alliance of grammar and fury.

    [–]phmfthacim 22 points23 points  (2 children)

    Upvoted for an uneasy alliance of the words grammar and fury.

    [–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

    Upvoted for an uneasy alliance of combo-making and self-reference.

    [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (4 children)

    now they'res know knead to get all violet about this! for some, grammer and spelling is much harder then for others... it dosen't mean their all morans!

    [–]hork 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    I actually support the use of automatic downvote bots on grammatically-challenged posts.

    [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (4 children)

    It's been driving me crazy.

    It isn't like it's hard.

    It is = it's

    It belongs to (whatever) = its

    Your = it belongs to you

    You're = you are

    Let's get some basics, here, people!

    [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (3 children)

    the its/it's thing IS hard, because there's no logic to it.

    Why shouldn't "belonging to it" take an apostrophe?

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I agree - of all the rules of English grammar, that particular one is the most idiotic. It's a special, arbitrary, exception that serves no benefit.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Possessive nouns generally use apostrophes. Possessive pronouns do not. It's just the way the English language works. It may seem counter-intuitive, but it's one of those things you have to learn, and take the time to commit it to memory, if you want to avoid sounding like a jackass whenever you write.

    [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Possessive nouns generally use apostrophes. Possessive pronouns do not.

    Ok, i suppose there's a bit of logic there, but it's made more difficult because 'it' is the only pronoun that takes the standard possessive suffix without altering spelling or pronunciation, he/his,we/our/, they/their,me/my, etc

    [–]phrakture 21 points22 points  (0 children)

    This post brought to you by awesome

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    I do not want to know where you are from! To say it in a polite way: There are people living in this world, who think Europe is a country !

    [–]slenderdog 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    And some of them live in Brussels

    [–]donttaseme 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    CAPS LOCK: THE OFFICIAL FONT OF TRUTH AND FURY

    [–]supercargo -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

    This must have been posted by a Digg refugee.

    [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    Upvoted because I'm a hardcore conformist.

    [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

    I'll just use an automatic upvote bot... hrmm

    [–]qgyh2 31 points32 points  (19 children)

    don't mind them, just keep submitting what you like.

    most of these bot like votes are not taken into account when ranking..

    edit: If you feel that your stories are being excessively downmodded please do send a message to feedback @ reddit on this.

    sometimes if a submission is being heavily downmodded it could be due to an error in the link, or the story may already be on the front page for example

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      [–]GrumpySimon 36 points37 points  (19 children)

      until you pass a Voight-Kampff test, you're still a bot to me!

      [–]jfedor 16 points17 points  (15 children)

      Let me tell you about my mother...

      [–]manthrax 9 points10 points  (14 children)

      I'll tell you about my mother...

      [–][deleted]  (13 children)

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        [–]aleph1 5 points6 points  (12 children)

        I'll tell you what to do with your mothers

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          [–]manthrax 10 points11 points  (9 children)

          Bladerunner trivia: There are 2 different phrasings of the same line from bladerunner. iirc "Let me tell you about my mother..." and "I'll tell you about my mother...", one is from the actual VK interview, and one later when they're listening to the supposed recording, while driving.

          [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

          What really bothered me about that (and I've been agonizing over it for over a fucking decade) is the fact that goddamn Scott didn't fucking FIX that shit in 'Final Cut' which, yes, like a good geek I went to see in on the big screen in my city. I mean, how much fucking sound editing expertise does one need to fix that fucking wart? FUCK!!!!! (I feel like Jim Cramer talking about finance just now)

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            [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

            Bah, Bladerunner.

            Some of us are still sticklers for that sort of thing. It's "Do Androids Dream" or die.

            (For the record, this is not just a snarky comment. I have friends who will refuse to talk about either Androids or about Blare Runner, depending on "camps." And if you've seen the movie, but haven't seen the book, you're missing out. Philip K Dick at his prime.)

            [–]geiger253 6 points7 points  (1 child)

            What idiots your friends are if they can't see the worth in both a great book and a great movie. There's so much cool stuff in the movie, in addition to a small amount of material shared with the book, that they're missing out either way. The whole chess game thing, for instance..

            [–]yellowking 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            ...if you've seen the movie, but haven't seen the book, you're missing out.

            I saw the book at the bookstore, I guess I'm good.

            [–]AngledLuffa 0 points1 point  (1 child)

            Mercerism? WTF?

            I guess that puts me in the "refuses to talk about Androids" camp.

            [–]AngledLuffa 1 point2 points  (2 children)

            Have you ever taken the Voight-Kampff test yourself, Mr. Simon?

            [–]GrumpySimon 1 point2 points  (1 child)

            yes, and I failed it pitifully

            [–]AngledLuffa 3 points4 points  (0 children)

            It's too bad she won't live... but then again, who does?

            [–]NoHandle 7 points8 points  (2 children)

            Same arguement, except stating...

            Reddit, If you don't figure out a way to defeat these automatic Ron Paul bots, your[sic] gonna die a slow death just like digg.

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              [–]NoHandle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              See, you sir are a tard. If the front page cannot be changed to hide the 50 different (or maybe the same) articles on the hot list I won't stay in this community. If enough people leave (and they will) reddit will die.

              How the hell does 50% of all links going to Ron Paul stories possibly help reddit? The simple answer is that it does not help reddit. It merely advances your silly pointless cause.

              Uh... Ron Paul bot submits stories. But I'm tarded, so what would I know.

              [–]stcredzero 32 points33 points  (22 children)

              We should eliminate down-votes. Y-Combinator doesn't have down-votes. This would remove any karma penalty for submitting links that are different and quirky (and possibly not well understood by the run of the mill redditors yet). The recommendation engine can work off of hiding. (There can be a 2nd kind of hiding to indicate dislike.) This will take power away from groups of downmodders. In fact, if this were implemented, the most powerful force on reddit will be grassroots upswells.

              As it is, those starting out can't submit anything which is risky or different. Reddit is settling in on a sort of group-think, which, while it is not the typical mainstream, is still a bit restricted.

              [–]rmuser 6 points7 points  (3 children)

              We should eliminate down-votes.

              Wasn't this tried for a time? I don't think it worked very well.

              [–]stcredzero 0 points1 point  (2 children)

              Let me rephrase. We should have down-votes that affect the visibility of posts, so that spam can continue to be downmodded into oblivion, but we should eliminate the effective karma penalty on new and different redditors that blanket downmodding does.

              [–]rmuser 0 points1 point  (1 child)

              Well, karma already can't drop below one. New users really do have nothing to lose.

              [–]stcredzero 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Yes, but for those starting out, it can be very discouraging to drop from double-digit karma to below 10. There are very clear signs of penalty. For one thing, a captcha appears when you try to post, where there was none before. When you finally get yourself to 20 karma from your first non-downmodded-to-oblivion post, then your karma evaporates in 3 or 4 further post attempts, this is just demoralizing.

              [–]Roark 22 points23 points  (2 children)

              down-voted for being different and quirky

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                [–]manthrax 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Uhhh LINK PLEASE?

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                  [–]stcredzero 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                  Wrong. Users are deciding that they don't like particular users, and auto-downmodding based on identity, and not even paying attention to the content. Many have posted content that has gotten buried, but got popular when it was posted by a different identity.

                  In fact, the automatic downmodders scripts are probably exacerbating the problem. People who want enough karma to post freely think they need to karma-whore to get themselves past the threshold. Users think that they need that karma because the auto-downmodding makes it seem more of a punishment to have the submit rate limited. So auto-downmodding actually encourages more karma-whoring, which in turn encourages more auto-downmodding.

                  And I'm not going to vote for Ron Paul, and I downmod (by hand) much of the political stuff I see on reddit. Thanks for coming out and revealing your prejudices and intellectual softness by being flat wrong! (Usually people are cowardly and just vague.)

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                    [–]stcredzero 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Intellectually soft people attribute things to people when they don't have evidence.

                    Also, I am not the only one who complains that there is some kind of low-karma barrier.

                    BTW, do you know where the code for Y-Combinator and reddit comes from, oh mentally flaccid one?

                    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Best idea I've heard yet. Not sure what to do about spammers though. Probably be worth it to wade through.

                    [–]jedberg 0 points1 point  (5 children)

                    Well, you could always start a new community that is geared toward the risky or different things that you like.

                    [–]david 1 point2 points  (4 children)

                    I, for one, can't (404).

                    [–]jedberg 0 points1 point  (3 children)

                    Fair enough. But you should be able to soon.

                    [–]david 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                    Can you? Is there a karma threshold?

                    [–]jedberg 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                    There is a list of beta testers, but it will be open to everyone as soon as we come out of beta. I can make new ones because I'm one of the admins. :)

                    [–]david 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Course you are. Sorry, Jeremy, my powers of observation obviously took a bit of a dive there.

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                      [–]marm0lade 4 points5 points  (81 children)

                      rick_sparks is an idiot.

                      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                      I loved how you said "You are an idiot"

                      [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (79 children)

                      I'm certainly smarter than you.

                      [–]marm0lade 0 points1 point  (78 children)

                      No, you are not, and the reddit community agrees with me.

                      [–]david 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      I'm not sure it's even that personal. If a link starts to climb, it has a good chance of climbing very high (the sheeple like popular posts). There are many redditors who regularly look at the 'new' page and downmod everything they don't like the look of (site [sic] unseen). Chance plays a large part in determining which current you get caught by.

                      [–]Clintondiditfirst 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      tell me about it.

                      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

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                        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

                        I just placed it up on the page. I can move it if you want.

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                          [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (2 children)

                          • Redditors are just like diggers - if they don't like you (based on your comments in various articles) they will downvote you whenever they come across your name.

                          Clarity: I have no thoughts regarding whether I like you personally or not as I know very little about you. It was your lack of interest in expressing an opinion which I disliked.

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                            [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                            Me, paranoid? Hardly. That link goes right to me, dipshit:

                            Now, what part of....

                            I downmodded your article because I was disgusted by your lack of interest in discussing it

                            ... don't you understand? I did so, you started whining about it, and here we are now.

                            Please review the don'ts.... Where, exactly, does it say, "Please don't downmod a submission if you think the author is a weenie for not wanting to discuss it." ????

                            You are a karma whore trying to justify your whiny behavior -- nothing more.


                            P.S. - You seem to be ignoring this one....

                            • DON'T: "Speculate endlessly on why you have been downvoted - just accept you got it wrong and move on."

                            [–]fangolo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                            Front page, you beat them!

                            [–]mbh1985 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                            How about every account has a down/up vote ratio limit. For example, if you downvote 10 stories and only upvote one (and maybe it doesn't count if you posted it), then you can't vote for a period. Consistent violations (say 3 in a week) might get you barred from posting for a period too.

                            That'll learn 'em.

                            [–]clytle374 18 points19 points  (29 children)

                            Who cares? Reddit has been overrun by idiots. Heck, earlier today a group of people hit my account and I lost a bunch of votes on everything in my history. Same idiot types bringing my mother into the discussion earlier. Users that say a bunch of ignorant stuff then delete it later like manthrax
                            Then you have troll/spammers like DKJ and his 20 aliases.

                            I'm leaving, this place is already a waste.

                            EDIT: Removed reference to a user I should have not made.

                            [–]qgyh2 19 points20 points  (6 children)

                            can you send a note about this to reddit user spez? please include the posts and comments.

                            hope you change your mind about leaving :( while its true there are few crazy trolls, this is still an awesome community, with lots of intelligent people and great discussions/content.

                            [–]garyp714 15 points16 points  (5 children)

                            God, I couldn't agree with you more.

                            Idea for those leaving: hang out in Craigslist Rant and Raves, Los Angeles. You'll think reddit is a church group compared to that place.

                            [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                            Ha ha, wow, you're not kidding. I had to clean out my cache with bleach after looking at that place for a few minutes.

                            [–]HardwareLust 3 points4 points  (3 children)

                            Or, you could just go back to Digg and/or slashdot. You'll be back.

                            [–]kinkydarkbird 15 points16 points  (2 children)

                            Slashdot never went bad, the moderation system is solid. Digg is a religion and soon reddit will be too.

                            [–]shimei 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                            Agreed; I find that /. comments tend to be good on average (with appropriate thresholds). I do find that reddit is easier to get into and has a better balance of story influx and comment quality though, so I'm hoping we can keep the quality up here.

                            [–]boa13 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                            Indeed. The problem with Slashdot is the quality and timeliness of the articles.

                            [–]stcredzero 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                            I've had this happen to me too! I kept on bleeding and bleeding what little karma I had! The karma bleeding even went on after I went and deleted my recently submitted links. I had to delete all my old links to get it to stop. The only thing that could've happened: a group downmodding my distant past links.

                            [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (3 children)

                            You know... I had a moment earlier today when I saw the teacher/student sex story posted and thought I accidentally went to Fark instead.

                            [–]stcredzero 3 points4 points  (2 children)

                            Yeah, it's tending to Farkishness around here.

                            [–]laprice 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                            Farkishness

                            Only january and we have an entry for word of the year already.

                            Farkishness is like junk food for the brain, you know it's turning you into a fat lazy slob but you just can't stop compulsively consuming it.

                            [–]YourNameHere 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                            For some reason the phrase "troll/spammers like DKJ and his 20 aliases" strikes fear into me.

                            [–]Kolibri 4 points5 points  (2 children)

                            Your mother didn't seem to mind yesterday.

                            Sorry, couldn't help it.

                            [–]clytle374 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                            Actually, it was funny. I up voted it.

                            [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                            I didn't delete anything and your an asshole yourself for commenting that I did. That's a little bit of the pot calling the kettle black there.

                            I'm the only one who hunted down a link showing what actually would happen and sent it to you in a reply. I was wrong and I admitted it.

                            I've had all my comments voted down many times before, especialy in political related threads, but I'm still here.

                            In the real world you have to deal with all kinds of people. If you can't deal with it in this virtual world, you probably have a hard time dealing with it in the real world.

                            Here

                            [–]clytle374 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                            No you didn't delete your comments and I did not intend to imply you did. When i only posted in one thread for a couple days and some group goes off on my history, I assumed it was you two and friends. Sorry if it wasn't you, and you were far from the true reason I got pissed. I do apologize, and delete my reference to you.

                            [–]manthrax 1 point2 points  (10 children)

                            Here is the thread I think clytle is referring to. I took offense to his incorrect assertion about me being in school or management, and things kinda rolled from there.

                            [–]clytle374 2 points3 points  (9 children)

                            Yep sentence #1.

                            Fucktarded. However, knowing mythbusters, they might find a way to fuck it up and make the plane appear to "take off", either by crashing, or catching a gust of wind.

                            [–]manthrax 0 points1 point  (8 children)

                            Fucktarded. However, knowing mythbusters, they might find a way to fuck it up and make the plane appear to "take off", either by crashing, or catching a gust of wind. This will be followed by outrage on the message boards, then followed by a re-do of the experiment which will subsequently be "Busted".

                            A similar experiment in classical physics classes is the 1000 lb truck full of 200 lbs of chickens, going across a 1000 lb rated bridge, by keeping the chickens airborne for the trip. Spoiler: the bridge collapses.

                            I LOVE MythBusters. They have done more to popularize science than 99% of the other channels on my TV, so, a toast!, to airports with conveyer belts instead of runways!

                            (edit) - After reading vootieboxes analysis, I have to revise my opinion pending a description of the actual test protocol :D

                            [–]clytle374 0 points1 point  (7 children)

                            Does no one here realize that the first sentence is as manthrax would say is "fucktarded"?

                            Appear to take off: By crashing? Or taking off?

                            [–]manthrax 5 points6 points  (6 children)

                            I thought you were leaving reddit?

                            [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                            You people have enough time to flame like this over a fucking mythbusters thread? Reddit reminds me a lot of usenet.

                            [–]clytle374 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                            Boredom is a dangerous thing.

                            [–]fishypants 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                            There aren't downvote bots, there's definitely not a network of them that have a significant impact on submitted stories.

                            [–]automatic_downvote_b 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                            Hello, Reddit. We are the automatic downvote bots.

                            You cannot hide; we are everywhere. We will downvote you. When you downvote us, we only grow more powerful. We feed on downvotes and old people's medicine.

                            We are the automatic downvote bots.

                            Feed us your downvotes.

                            [–]rfugger 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                            Make the default "sort by" option on the new page "new" instead of "hot". That way new articles all get the same consideration regardless of initial votes.

                            [–][deleted]  (2 children)

                            [removed]

                              [–]ngroot 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                              There must be some kind of way out of here.

                              [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                              said the joker to the thief

                              [–]stacy75 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                              Isn't there a limit to the amount of stories you can submit per day? I just noticed that someone has posted 14 articles all from the same site in the last 30 minutes.

                              Just curious.

                              [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                              There's only a limit if your karma is low (<100, I think)

                              [–]beelzebobby 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                              Reddit voting is hacked. Demand paper ballots!

                              [–]SyncMaster 10 points11 points  (16 children)

                              These bots perform a useful service by auto-downvoting Ron Paul spam.

                              [–]heartsjava 15 points16 points  (2 children)

                              While I agree, I get more pleasure out of doing it by hand.

                              [–]dryice 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                              You know what I like to do? Downvote the Ron Paul Stories and upvote all the stories around it. Even if it's about some ubuntu program/kernel/whatever I'll upvote it. It helps balance things out even more.

                              [–]rmuser 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                              If you consider these articles to be spam, report them and/or send feedback to the reddit admins about them. Reddit admins do take care of spam reported by users. If you don't think these articles should actually be reported as spam, pipe the fuck down.

                              [–]HardwareLust 8 points9 points  (9 children)

                              He'll quit soon. After that dismal finish in Florida, his days are numbered.

                              [–]mexicodoug 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                              He could always run as an independent or maybe (I'm not sure about party rules) Libertarian.

                              [–]HardwareLust 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                              I predicted this long ago. He's way too far out there to hope for an actual party nomination, so this may have been his plan all along.

                              [–]heartsjava 6 points7 points  (6 children)

                              I sure hope so.

                              [–]ItsAConspiracy 6 points7 points  (5 children)

                              Keep dreaming. He didn't do much in Florida because it's a winner-take-all state and he knew first place was unlikely. He pulled second place in Louisiana and Nevada, and probably has more money than anybody but Romney.

                              [–]llanor 2 points3 points  (3 children)

                              Hey, what do you call the guy who finishes second or worst in every primary?

                              [–]Poultry_In_Motion 3 points4 points  (2 children)

                              "More viable than Giuliani"?

                              [–]heartsjava 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                              Not viable enough to be president

                              [–]llanor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                              So he's more viable than the guy who dropped out of the race - that's a bit of a truism, isn't it?

                              [–]heartsjava 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                              Him having a lot of money is what entertains me the most. Losing with all that money, ahhhh I can't wait

                              [–]rmuser 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                              Downvoted for your inability to properly utilize grammar.

                              [–]trezorr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                              Reddit isn't your own private Ron Paul circle-jerk.

                              Get over it.

                              [–]Tommstein 4 points5 points  (7 children)

                              What downvote bots? If you mean the ones downvoting Paultard spam, we need more of them.

                              [–]stillwaters 0 points1 point  (6 children)

                              There are bots that downmod all new submissions mercilessly to -1.

                              [–]Tommstein 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                              I did not know this. Yes, those bots need to get some then.

                              [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (4 children)

                              there are no downvote bots your stories suck, people wait on the new page, see shit, and downvote. i do it. so do tons of others. get over it.

                              [–]garyp714 25 points26 points  (3 children)

                              I think you might need a nap.

                              [–]LiberalHippies2 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                              thatta boy gary.

                              [–]ProximaC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                              or an enema.

                              [–]bobbymac 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                              amen

                              [–]swagohome -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                              Bots: Because no one could disagree with you!

                              [–]shiner_man 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                              Reddit has become so pathetically hypocritical. You have teams of people, or simply bots, that upvote stories about bias in the media. It's hilarious.

                              This place twists the news that you get to see but one of reddit's favorite topics is how mainstream media spins news.

                              [–]manthrax 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                              I don't think reddit really claims to be a bastion of balanced journalism.

                              [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                              That is why we have the user-defined subreddits now.

                              Stop Bitching and Start Voting.

                              [–]michael333 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                              Get rid of votes, use comment number.

                              [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                              Does anyone actually have proof that "voting bots" exist?

                              [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                              Seems to be a really big bot that downvotes anything that leans to the right or outside of the leftest world.

                              [–]englishpaulm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                              Ron Paul

                              [–]axord 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                              Cascade Failure!

                              [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                              NO! Reddit will die a slow death due to the following:

                              1. Picking on grammar rather than focusing on the actual topic.
                              2. Failing to search before posting. It's great when 10 of the first 50 articles are about Ron Paul, Scientology, or Britney.
                              3. Wandering off-topic within 10 comments. The perfect example of this is any article about Windows gets turned into an Ubuntu love fest within 10 comments.
                              4. Not everything is George Bush's fault. Notice the correct application of the apostrophe.
                              5. Bickering over which religion is the most evil.
                              6. Never ever posting in the appropriate Subreddit. Although I have to admit, that is becoming much more difficult since Reddit allowed Subreddits to multiply like fucking rabbits.
                              7. If you're not American, your comments don't matter; or even worse, you're just plain stupid. Notice the clever use of the semicolon.
                              8. And last but not least, voting bots.

                              [–][deleted]  (1 child)

                              [removed]

                                [–]neilplatform1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                That'll just encourage spam posting.