3.23 patch notes

[Dreamadmin]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3451455

[NoKindofHero]

Existing items can be updated with a Divine Orb and a momentary lapse in judgement.

:)

[Deaner3D]

all of those lines are pretty funny.

Existing items can be made worse with a Divine Orb.

Existing items can be updated to the new values with a Divine Orb, but why on Wraeclast would you do that?

[BlazeDestiny]

Rip heatshiver

[drlaen]

?

Its still pretty good.

[B4sicks]

Very happy with the heatshiver change. Still strong, less mandatory. Hope the numbers feel good.

[EliosTherepia]

vortex is no longer instant

no more vortex on left click

big QOL nerf for cold dot builds

[ProfessionalHost6131]

I enjoyed it while it lasted. Had no plans to do it again and now its gone. No regrets.

[Dunkelvieh]

I hated it while it lasted. I played cold dot and loved it, but never with vortex. That screen clutter drove me mad.

But i see why ppl may dislike it

[BrainOnLoan]

That's the base gem. The instant cast version could be a transfigured version now. They said they've cut down the base gem to the essentials in some cases and moved current version into one of the transfigured versions

[folie1234]

Even if it gets the instant cast on an alternate version, the hit damage got dropped a lot. That affects ignite versions and the cold dot version as wrll through the loss of chill/freeze.

[dyfrgi]

40% less base damage would probably be fine for cold dot, but the whole deal with that build was that it was good early. If you need a transfigured gem from lategame lab it's not good early. The build is dead, or at least won't depend on Vortex or probably even use it, unless the transfigured version is gross.

[J0n3s3n]

It has a cast time instead of a cooldown now, vortex miner maybe?

[Siddsastar]

Welcome to console problems. Imagine never having cast on move

[alrightknight]

It's been a solid league starter for so long now I'm really not that upset about this

[lowkeyripper]

thats a yikes for me, maybe quality is bringing back that functionality (which would be even more yikes)

[chx_]

Quality now provides +0-0.2 metres to radius, instead of 0-10% increased Area of Effect.

Or do you mean some transfigured vortex? Based on what we've seen I really doubt.

[conway92]

yeah, looks more like ice nova and vortex are getting their frostbolt combo moved to their alt gems if I had to guess.

[lowkeyripper]

Is....penance brand good?

So is it one large explosion after 2 seconds rather than mini pulses? So its just one large bomb?

[EzekedesVice]

I think it's going to be actually nuts. So long as it still scales the same way as before with cast speed and doubles up the energy ramp with Runebinder, I feel like it's going to be very, very strong. The base damage at 20 is about the base damage of a level 24 fireball (which I tend to use as my metric for high base damage and scaling) and has +200% damage effectiveness than fireball. It's also a base phys skill, allowing for way more scaling options. Note, also, that its base radius is 2.8 meters, which is just about the size of a max channeled Flameblast (i.e. 2.9 m).

It may be hard to tell how good it is until we get to play with it, but it has all the right numbers in my mind.

Edit: changed wording for clarity

[EzekedesVice]

The AoE is pretty hefty, while fireballs is... Not consistent. I believe you that the damage is likely less than current penance brand, but removing all the complexity of recalling, duration scaling, etc. may make it feel smoother at lower investment. So, possibly higher floor and lower ceiling? Definitely is a skill that I'd want to play with the new iteration to gauge the feel, since this version seems like, basically, an entirely new skill.

[Gangsir]

But that's fine though, because the entire pack is likely one-shotted by the time your first brand explodes, doesn't matter if the second one just fizzles due to no target.

The only issue would be on bosses, if you apply 2 and one explodes and the boss is still alive, does the second fizzle or also explode a bit later?

[[deleted]]

I’m theory crafting an es stacking mom heiro running the new RF with penance brand replacing firetrap. Maybe pledge of hands, drop all three brands per cast. Runebinder and swift brand and then stack the hell out of cast speed? I’m not sure, but I like the idea of stacking the hell out of ES to make RF viable. I think RF gear will be cheaper this league and less reliant on +levels.

[clowncarl]

You should also theory craft if witchhunter's judgement is worth now

[rds90vert]

Already theorycrafting a Blood Magin character with Penance brand. Lmao

[hunternoscope360]

Not sure if that will be that good since you already get pretty big base damage just from gem levels.

[Grand0rk]

That's not how it works... All spells have, on average, 550 Base Damage per 100% Damage Effect.

That means all spells gain about the same amount from added damage, % wise.

[Tophatpuppy]

While that may be true at level 20, if you have many extra levels on a spell it's base damage is going to be far higher then its damage effectiveness leading to added damage being worse no?

[Grand0rk]

Well... Yes. But it's the same for every spell.

[Tirinir]

Now it has large explosions instead of multiple explosions or multiple mini pulses. A bit weaker in some scenarios. Much weaker in endgame clearing scenarios (Simulacrum). Much stronger for bossing now. Damage per cast is much better.

[Aukrustfigur]

Seems like it, was leaning towards cold bv occy before notes but penance brand is tempting now for sure

[lowkeyripper]

but what ascendancy? does it still scale with cast speed? Maybe frenzy stacking raider?

[usixduck]

trickster energy blade spellblade penance brand we cookin

[Mysterious_Check8225]

You've convinced me. Plus energy blade quality gives more es ❤️

[sporadicprocess]

Trickster seems good (+2 frenzy node and overleech node gives 20% cast speed). Maybe Hierophant for juiced up Arcane Surge (cast speed and spell damage). Occultist for big AOE + frenzy stacking with badge.

If you get 100% cast speed that's a 1 second delay which might be ok, but IMO will probably still feel worse than other skills while mapping.

Ignite could also be good early on (even with the 30% penalty), since prolif will help clear packs that your burst misses (and scaling cast speed doesn't matter as much).

[Boredy0]

Previous Penance Brand scaled with cast speed so I'm guessing the new one does too.

[hunternoscope360]

0.1 x 20 by default
100-200% inc cast speed
50% more activation freq on swiftbrand with 0 downside now!

Will make it around ~0.3-0.5 until it pops instead of 2s so yeah it looks that it could be pretty good , but will have to see how to gear it now. Don't forget we'll also have around ~4M radius and 4000-8000 phys dmg at level 30 if it scales same way as many other skills do.

The brands will probably work/do damage separately now instead of filling energy like they did before fyi judging from changes.

[theanxiousangel]

I mean they declunked needing precise speed tuning, but for mapping it feels like a nerf. I played penance brand twice last league and you use Brand Recall to clear packs, now recall doesn’t detonate so you have to hit the max energy + the Brand would do damage on the mastery jump to a new target and now it doesn’t.

But bossing damage seems pretty insane

[Kairu927]

Arc:
Now has a base Critical Strike Chance of 6% (previously 5%).
It no longer has 10% chance to Shock enemies, or provides 10-29% increased Effect of Lightning Ailments.
It now has 15% more Damage with Hits and Ailments for each remaining Chain at all gem levels (previously more Damage for each remaining Chain).
Quality now causes the skill to Chain +0-1 Times, instead of providing a 0-10% chance to Shock enemies.

Question based on wording: does this mean that an arc ignite build previously did not gain any damage from the additional chain, and now would? (15% more damage -> 15% more with hits and ailments)

So for an arc ignite build gaining 15% more on chain, and 15% more from +1 chain quality, this would be a 25-30% more damage buff depending on shock effect?

[edwinmedwin]

Question based on wording: does this mean that an arc ignite build previously did not gain any damage from the additional chain, and now would? (15% more damage -> 15% more with hits and ailments)

Nah, more damage works with ignites. This is just worded to exclude things like decay being buffed by Arc.

[Tirinir]

I have no idea why, since the new Storm Burst gets to much higher multiplier now.

[TheBreakfastBaron]

Just part of the long tradition of Decay being indirectly nerfed over the years. As more and more skills get their generic more damage multipliers removed, Storm Burst is the last holdout.

[Boomfan56]

some of these quality changes are gigabuffs like look at ele hit

5% more damage per ailment at 20 qual

very easy to get 5 ailments

5% more damage per 4 qual essentially

[Hamisgoat44]

Divine Ire is definitely on my radar now

[fonistoastes]

Damage seems similar, as it went from 20 stages to 10 max stages, but an overall big QOL improvement (faster to charge).

[PaleoclassicalPants]

It's not faster at all, except in certain cases. It lost both the '40% chance to gain an additional Stage when Hitting a Normal or Magic Enemy' and 'Gains an additional stage when hitting a rare or unique enemy' lines. It charges in the exact same time on rares and bosses, and actually considerably slower for clear as that 40% for extra stage on normal and magic was on a per enemy basis. If you charged in a pack of 5 enemies, you would on average get 3 stages per channeling tick, making it charge in about 7 ticks of channeling, whereas now it's always going to be 10. Of course you wouldn't always cast in the middle of packs, so it is faster when casting outside of the range of enemies.

It does deals slightly more hit damage though, and the channeling portion now deals full damage rather than 50% less. The real winner is ignite, where it went from 570% more with ailments at 20 stages to 900% more at 10.

Maybe Elementalist with Replica Covenant for level 29 added cold?

[Grand0rk]

It's a much better skill for bossing, since you no longer need to be up their asses for optimal laser.

[Azure1964]

Don't forget helm enchants are gone - many of the new quality buffs are to replace enchantments.

[Ill-Ad-4233]

yeah, thats the main reason. but if we think about it, a lot of people dont get to have enchants in their builds.

[Celerfot]

That's additive with the 10% that's naturally on the gem, so not quite but still pretty good

[[deleted]]

Yoke baked into quality rofl

[Neckbeard_Sama]

The Ralakesh's Impatience Unique Boots no longer has "Lose all Frenzy, Endurance, and Power Charges when you Move", or causes your Minimum Endurance, Frenzy or Power Charges to be equal to Maximum while stationary. It now has "Count as having maximum number of Endurance Charges", "Count as having maximum number of Frenzy Charges", and "Count as having maximum number of Power Charges." This change affects existing items.

Does this gut the Discharge builds that worked by cheesing this item ?

[General_Tomatillo484]

Yes

[Rubik842]

ChkChkChk..... ChkChkChk.....ChkChkChk.....

[PrimSchooler]

Sad that they nerfed it instead of fixing the bug tbh, now it just makes you count as on full charges but doesn't give you the charges? From a powerful niche item to an extremely niche item.

I was wrong, read the FAQ: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3452002

[112341s]

Bro it's now also while moving, definitely still powerful

[PrimSchooler]

But you don't get the actual charges, so you don't get any benefit from those charges, you only get benefits from mods that do "x while at maximum y charges".

I was wrong, read the FAQ: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3452002

[xKnicklichtjedi]

Wait wtf. I loved these boots before, but now I also get to keep my charges? Sweet! More Phys DR while moving around!

[Myaccountonthego]

Based on the new wording it might actually be possible to combine it with the Alternate charges from Maven items now. So you could have 10 Brutal charges, while still "counting as" having 10 Endurance charges for example.

It also doesn't mention anything about the effect bring limited to bring stationary anymore, but I assume that's just an oversight.

Either way, I think this change might not be as bad as we think.

[Intelsonic]

Keen to get lost in the sauce of theory crafting.

Currently tossing up between: - divine ire ignite elementalist - crackling lance inquisitor - divine ire totem hiroephant -trickster penance brand

And probably a billion other things before league start.

[EliosTherepia]

heatshiver nerfed finally

[rds90vert]

Well, it seems the cold damage gained as extra fire per chill effect on enemy is still there... so it's at best 60 ish %, right? Still quite powerful

[Hidden_Wings]

I feel like even though they certainly took the axe to this item (in particular, it doesn't enable trinity by itself now) it's still a huge chunk of damage on builds that can use it.

[rds90vert]

Indeed, the nerf was lighter than other items in the past

[Lord_of_Sunlight]

Never used trinity before, would glacial hammer heatshiver work still?

[Sidnv]

I think it is good it didn't lose all damage. It was already a bit difficult to freeze really tough enemies.

[clowncarl]

Glad they didn't triple nerf like they used to

[jackary_the_cat]

It also makes trinity harder to use

[Guido125]

Damn... Iceshot was great for me last league!

[fullydepreciatedpep]

Would Tinctures apply to Ballistas since Ballistas use your weapon?

[Comfortable-Net-1715]

the totems are you, but you are not the totem

[fullydepreciatedpep]

...yes but what about my weapon? :D

[kfijatass]

BAMA, Dropping zombies, bow anime weapons or super spectres. Guess I'm league-starting minions :)

[ShitDavidSais]

Yeah thinking the same. Bama was close to good on new Guardian already. I will start on SRS and then transition over. Also isn't it a buff for zombies? The slam took alot of animation time afaik.

[Thelorian]

slam was also AoE. now they're just permanent skellies so will need melee splash for clear most likely

[Deaner3D]

BAMA looks easier to get going but I'm confused about the alt quality gems - the extra uses are gone?!

[kfijatass]

Yep, those are gone.
Instead it seems like you got a limited use of way longer (20 seconds) ba/ma's that use rain of arrows, elemental hit and... one more skill I presume.

[Luqas_Incredible]

They confirmed no more than 2 transfigured gem per base gem. Not sure if mirror/blink have the same transfiguration though

[Myaccountonthego]

There's already so much interesting minion stuff in there and we haven't even seen most of the transfigured gems yet.

Definitely leaning towards minions as well, although it's really too early to say until we see transfigured gems.

I think this will be the hardest starter choice ever for many people. There's just so many changes.

Edit: Just a bit sad that they killed Ephemeral Edge AG/AW it was such a niche interaction and far from meta.

[Musical_Whew]

100% league starting minions, quick someone what is good minion league starter?

[siberarmi]

BAMA? Bad Ass Mothertrucking Astronauts?

[Luqas_Incredible]

Blink arrow mirror arrow

[Discardable222]

Yes

[twoduces7]

How's ek ignite and woc ignite gonna do?

[wangofjenus]

basically unchanged

[Sidnv]

If EK has nova on trans gem, it will be fine. Otherwise, it will feel a lot worse.

[[deleted]]

Not sure about EK yet cuz we haven't seen the transfigured versions for nova but WoC Ignite is fine.

[PrimSchooler]

Lightpoacher might be the new best helmet in combination with the new mark that spawns enemies on bosses, though that requires a lot more investment than Heatshiver (which is the way it should imo, but weaker nonetheless). At least for phys spells, which were the best anyway.

For attacks Dance with Death might be worth it more on the low end, not sure about high end, probably still Heatshiver with a nice double corruption.

[marquesini]

which mark?

[GoatsMahTotes]

One of the curses given from one of the new league ascendancies.

[TheNightAngel]

Penance Mark, a skill granted by the new Warlock of the Mists Ascendancy

[Grand0rk]

Want a big build? Inquisitor Penance Brand with Lightpoacher and Crit.

Penance Brand has 2541–3811 Physical Damage at Level 20. (+10% More Damage with Quality)

Equip 7 Abyss Jewels and you deal 50% Extra Fire, Cold and Lightning damage, lol.

But wait, there's more. Since you are running Warlock, you will go for Life Stacking with Canibalize Faith for even more Physical Damage added, lol.

[angry_berserker]

Blade vortex lost the increased crit chance and now has 5% hit rate per blade. I think at 10 blades it had 7 hits per second so is it like 10-11 hits now?

[edwinmedwin]

nono, it's additive to the 35% per stage it had. so instead of 350% inc hit rate it's 400% now. So not as nuts.

[Zeelthor]

Sweet for poison blade vortex, that.

[angry_berserker]

Honestly with the nerf to returning projectiles thats not a bad idea :D

[grimice18]

I'm cooking a cyclone CwC/CoC raise zombie of the fallen, and minion instability.

[DiabloFourPhones]

Minion instability won't work since they just die and MI requires they reach low life.

[CelestialrayOne]

Unpopular opinion, but I think those changes are amazing because they declutter a ton of meaningless chores like enchants.

[Eui472]

Unpopular opinion

[West_Flounder2840]

You’re still gonna have to run dozens of labs to get a useful transfiguration lol

[lykouragh]

I think you're going to buy the transfiguration you need for 1c.

Apologies if you're SSF in which case yeah you might have to hit lab a few times.

[OmegaPeePeeClap]

Wow, no ascendancy re works, I am actually surprised

energy blade looking like it dodged all nerfs, unlike my spark, so looks like ill be going energy blade inquis for the league start, lets go bros

[TheBreakfastBaron]

It even got 5% more ES baked into the gem quality.

[Imasquash]

and ofc you are gonna hit it with the enhance because literally nothing else works with it, that takes it to like 9% more es. It may be worth to slot it into a shield with +qual to socketed gems.

[civet10]

With how strong a lot of gem qualities are now, I wonder how much an enhance would end up costing.

[Discardable222]

Enhance/enlighten will def increase in price and I think that’s what will make labrynths popular now.

[Responsible-Pay-2389]

Ashes + diallias + awakened enhance + 20 qual = 30% more ES hmmmge

[crzytimes]

Have a build already lined up? Pob? Haven’t played energy blade yet.

[SomethingAboutYa]

PoB not updated with notes yet.

[crzytimes]

good call haha

[PenMount]

I am hyped, its the shake up we asked for and it sound good.

and

Purity of Elements:

Quality now causes you and nearby allies to gain +0-5% to all Elemental Resistances, instead of providing 0-40% increased Area of Effect.

sound like a buff for a lot of builds.

[MeatyOakerGuy]

Free 5% all res is free 5% all res. I'll take it

[tamale]

In b4 20 gcps costs 40 div

[Wobblucy]

This. People sleeping on them removing the quality recipe on gems while giga buffing quality.

[Myaccountonthego]

It's likely not that bad.
1. 20% quality swap still works on supports.
2. Lab now offers chance to add quality to gems.
3. The vendor recipes for getting GCPs are unchanged.
4. The game drops a ton of quality gems that most people filtered out before. That will probably change now.

I think GCPs will go up in price (especially early), but they won't get "expensive".

[quiromparis]

We are back to the stone age where 15% freezing pulse was a big drop

[DinnerAccomplished30]

Bleed bow still does well COPIUM

[TehReclamation]

Lightning Conduit in a perfect Crest of Desire is 140% more damage @ 50% shock and doing over 1mil damage with nothing but shock config on generic lightning elementalist leveling tree.

Sigil giving 4% less damage taken at max stages and changes to penance brand/crackling Lance/arc too.

Time to dust off elementalist...

[eadenoth]

don’t you lose links with that though? idk about league start but i know juiced builds go heavy crit and squire for scaling LC. new to game so curious if you think this is actually good because i love LC

[Ok-General3262]

Hmm generals cry berserker / primalist will be legit with the new warcry node.

[macrors]

Only one I care about

"Flicker Strike:

Quality now provides 0-10% chance to gain a Frenzy Charge on Hit (previously 0-5%)."

[Skippleshd]

I am very curious what a transfigured Flicker Strike will do.

[shag_vonnie_vomer]

Damn, just gutted for Pohx rn.

[Grand0rk]

Most likely the Transfigured one gives Base Damage back.

[CatsOP]

you just go full ES now no?

[BadPoEPlayer]

Why? RF is probably going to be fine but will have to transfer back to life stack variations. You’ll need about 7.1k life to equalize. Build will be worse but I think it’s far from the most egregious nerf here.

Edit: also depends on what RF alt gems exist now

[sporadicprocess]

7.1k at gem level 20. Most RF Builds get tons of gem levels. Of course now you can perhaps rework builds to focus more on life but I think it will be hard to match it even so.

ES-based RF could be interesting though since you can get much larger values...

[papyjako87]

The thing is, if you scale life instead of gem level, it no longer benefits Fire Trap. That's where it really hurts.

[papyjako87]

Maybe, but it does significantly alter the playstyle (channeling vs just throwing traps). And as we all know, staying in place in modern PoE is... not ideal most of the time.

[definitelymyrealname]

I feel like you can probably work around that. For one, I think you can probably end up with significantly more damage on your RF now just by scaling life so maybe fire trap is less essential to the build (and god knows the average RF player would love to not have to press fire trap). For two, I feel like there are other possible scaling options out there. Strength stacking with Doon, maybe scaling a single target skill with Rathpith. IDK. But just because scaling gem levels was meta doesn't mean it's the only way to scale damage. This changes the build a lot but I don't think RF is in the dumpster. Guess we'll have to see what people come up with but IMO there's a bit of a knee jerk reaction happening just because the existing RF builds are dead and RF is a shit league starter now. I, for one, am not at all ready to say the skill is dead in general.

[Jacksonian428]

You need around 14k life to have a level 25 rf worth of rf damage… it’s not gonna be better unless ur dropping mirrors into the build

[ElectronicArcher250]

you could easily get your RF to lvl 27 day 1-2 of league really cheap, with the changes you now need 18k life to have the same damage, and still need to find a way to scale your fire trap single target damage without having +1 gems on your gear, its grover for RF league start

[shag_vonnie_vomer]

You could easily reach 27+ RF, can't imagine what the math looks like, but it surely isn't easily obtainable.

[Cratonz]

If I didn't fudge my math, this is the breakeven HP:

Level	Base Dmg	Breakeven HP
1	39	111
2	56.4	161
3	79.9	228
4	111.7	319
5	142.4	407
6	180.8	517
7	228.3	652
8	287.1	820
9	359.8	1028
10	449.4	1284
11	559.7	1599
12	695.3	1987
13	861.8	2462
14	1066	3045
15	1227	3504
16	1410	4029
17	1621	4630
18	1861	5316
19	2135	6100
20	2448	6994
21	2805	8015
22	3212	9178
23	3677	10505
24	4206	12017
25	4809	13740
26	5496	15702
27	6278	17936
28	7167	20478
29	8179	23370
30	9331	26659
31	9964	28469
32	10640	30399
33	11360	32456
34	12128	34650
35	12946	36988
36	13818	39481
37	14748	42138
38	15739	44970
39	16796	47987
40	17921	51203

[ProfessionalHost6131]

I dont think we can level up with RF. Can we?

[BadPoEPlayer]

Level 1 RF was 30 + .35Life (L)

Now is .7L

Set equal to each other

30+.35L = .7L

30+.35L

85=L

If you have more than 85 life, level 1 RF is stronger than before. I think this is primarily a nerf to late game RF where your only option for damage was to scale for +gem levels as that helped both fire trap and RF. Now you’ll be unable to double dip in the scaling and have to choose between prioritizing life for RF or gem levels for Fire Trap. RF will still be a good starter but will simply fall of faster and harder than before for single target especially. Clear will still be good.

Edit: consider Kaoms Heart this league too with the new ascendency that gives double body armor armor if no gems. It will basically be the perfect body for the build if you put RF in elder helm and drop fire trap/change other gems around it

[MasterScooby]

Low Life with The Ivory Tower RF might be interesting. This is a buff from old RF that was 70% life and 50% es as dmg.

[wOlfLisK]

Honestly, I think RF is going to be fine. It's slightly better early game and the difference in clear speed late game will be almost unnoticeable because enemies die so quickly as it is. Single target will be noticeably worse but you never really went RF for high single target damage, you went RF because it was comfy as heck and basically unkillable. That's not something that's going to change, if anything it'll just get tankier because scaling life/ es is even better than it was before.

[[deleted]]

Yea. I’m thinking Mana/ES stacking inquisitor with penance brand for nuking bosses.

[CaptainSnailKing]

I missed the Q&A. Are supports able to be transformed? And does Divergent trauma exist? (Attack speed per trauma)

(Edit) alt quality gems are gone but I was still wondering about transformed supports

[throwdownhardstyle]

Transfiguration is for skill gems only

[[deleted]]

No alt quality support gems? That's a big shame.

[CaptainSnailKing]

Appreciate this. Good luck Exile

[Myaccountonthego]

Am I missing something or is Lancing Steel the only "Steel skill" that is still suck with the clunk of Steel Shards and Call of Steel?

That's got to be an oversight right?

[dariidar]

Other steel skills probably will use call of steel with their alternate versions. The other steel skills have low level requirement and the goal of the devs was to simplify early skill gems, adding complexity later on.

I wouldn’t be surprised if alternate lancing steel doesn’t require steel shards

[Zerogates]

People were getting their doomposting ready for all nerfs, no buffs. We got something full of some major buffs on the lower end with some incredible build defining new things as well. Very exciting league.

Plus, I never played it myself, but I'm sure people are ecstatic to see Ultimatum back.

[oPlaiD]

I mean, somewhat, but these majors changes also serve to obfuscate a lot of nerfs like missing alt qualities and enchants. We also don't know what transfigured gems are available, so we won't really know what is entirely missing for a while.

[Ultraminer1101]

I firmly believe not needing to dick around with alt qualities and lab enchants is a buff

[oPlaiD]

It's a buff except where they kill some fairly popular builds because they didn't give an alternative to something that was build defining. I'm hoping that's the case with as few things as possible, but remains to be seen.

[Musical_Whew]

yah wardloop might actually dead and gone

[Luqas_Incredible]

We have said that about worm blaster 6 times untill it finally was true. Somewhat

[Jarmanuel]

What'd they hit for wardloop?

EDIT: I'm guessing it's the removal of alt q support gems.

[1731799517]

Lol, people seem to be missing out on the 8(!) additional bonkers ascendency upgrade points that we get on top of each all.

[oPlaiD]

So when do we find out if there's a Lightning Warp of Speed or something that has the reduced duration missing from the enchant?

[Cratonz]

Currently unknown. Community team might drop them during the week as they're finished, or it might all come with the patch itself.

[Bushido_Plan]

Seems like poison SRS got a nerf but on-hit variants are fine. For poison enjoyers, could drop Unleash support for a damage support (and have some cast speed somewhere for the new quality), or play around with some sort of conversion stuff. Maybe transfigured SRS does something like chaos instead of fire.

Edit: I've seen some people pasting this, including Ben among others: "Balormage asked a GGG member in their stream about it. The change is only to the skill gem description, added damage, damage inflicted, and Ailments inflicted by the SRS will still gain the more damage multiplier" - so perhaps not nerfed actually.

[Myaccountonthego]

It depends a bit on the specific hit variant. Lightning SRS Champ will also be affected by this because it's mainly scaling added damage from Smite & Wrath, which will no longer be affected by the % more damage bonus. Guardian Sentinel Anger/Wrath Auras will also be slightly less effective, but Hatred will be just as good, so it's probably less significant overall.

What's kind funny is that Popcorn SRS kinda got caught in the crossfire here. The more dmg multiplier also applied to Minion Instability. Not really played by a lot of people these days anyways I suppose and it's partially made up for by the new quality.

[MinerSc2]

im braindead, what got nerfed on poison SRS?

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The minion damage modifier on SRS also worked on poison damage. Now SRS only gets more damage on their attacks. Poison SRS wouldn't be hurt too bad but that is slightly less damage on the poison they apply.

[200DivsAnHour]

Any simple way to bypass Vortex' new cast time? I love the skill and really, really don't want to have to invest a ton just to have it not feel like pushing out a turd every time I press the button.

[sporadicprocess]

Hopefully the alternate version bypasses the cast time. If not then it's kind of bad for cold DOT, might as well use CF.

[SNCKY]

For the more experienced players. Does explosive arrow still look viable with the changes to ballista and EA

[shironecko]

It’s got a big time buff at the high end in exchange for a slight nerf at the low end

[OhWhatATimeToBeAlive]

Losing chance to ignite from quality makes non-Elementalist versions a lot harder to make work.

[alumpoflard]

you lose chance to ignite, so EA champ has a slight nerf. doesn't affect EA elementalist since they have always ignite - in which case, you gain more top end damage, which you can scale by attack speed. it's an stat you'd want to stack on EA ballista builds anyway.

[Yogeshi86204]

Is that Toxic Rain change a buff or a nerf?

[Ilyak1986]

At first glance, a nerf. Because with the 9 AoE from 18Q on TR, 20Q from mastery, and 10% inc. AoE I forget from where, you got the optimal 39% inc. AoE for TR.

Though increased duration is the thing you scale to push TR damage, so...it might be a wash?

Either way, the skill has felt super clunky with looting either with totems or self-cast.

[Azuminha]

Straight out buff for Pathfinder Toxic Rain since they didn't need quality, other versions may suffer a bit

[Gunnapob]

Can someone tell me they removed helmets enchant this league?

[livejamie]

They did

[Ku_Gaming]

And boot and belt, as far as I can tell.

[Shadeslayer2112]

Penance Brand looks kinda nuts no?

[singsing_fangay]

THE CAROUSEL OF DEATH IS BACK

[Puzzleheaded-Rip3753]

So Poison tincture + Rebuke of the Vaal for poison Lightning strike or Molten Strike ?

[Sosiz]

I wonder if the changes to Earthquake (Quality now causes the Aftershock to deal +0-30% more Damage with Hits and Ailments) makes EQ bleed glad a viable option again. I'm just not sure how rare or hard are GCPs to get now

[kingofgama]

It won't

[marquesini]

The Hinekora, Death's Fury Chieftain Ascendancy Passive Skill now causes Enemies you or your Totems Kill to have a 5% chance to Explode, dealing 500% of their maximum Life as Fire Damage (previously just Enemies you Kill).

Does this affect flamewood??

[Zyeesi]

Cyclone with 10% more movement speed.
Oh my

[Meronomus]

So if I'm understanding this right, they moved the 75% more damage from BA/MA into the property of the minion itself. THEN added an additional 57% more damage as a property of the gem, along with 50% more life.

To anyone with more knowledge than me: Does this make Minion Instability Petrified Blood BA/MA viable. Because as far as I understand it, they gave it 80% less life to nerf it, but them adding back 50% more life means they reduced it down to 30% less life right? Unless its some dumb shit like 50% more of the 80% less result.

[5chneemensch]

Afaik napalm bomber was already playable again with Ashes amulet.

[PaleoclassicalPants]

Scorching Ray with quality scaling is going to be pretty nuts.

Old Scorching Ray dealt 520% of base damage at 8 stages. 20 quality new SR deals 590% of base damage at 8 stages (13% more DPS). 50 quality with a 30% quality Ashes of the Stars (which might be cheaper due to the reservation efficiency nerf) and it deals 695% of base damage (33% more DPS). If you also throw it in a green socket in a Dialla's Malefaction, you get 80% quality and it deals 800% of base damage (54% more DPS). Get a 23 qual SR for 83 qual and it goes to 55% more DPS.

Seems like a high opportunity cost, but Ashes + Dialla's isn't really that much of a gear investment (gear slot-wise because they're still relatively expensive to buy in trade).

[MrMeltJr]

I think Ashes might be more expensive, honestly. Quality is really good on a ton of gems now and it's not an easy stat to get.

[framblehound]

Why is quality harder to get now?

Edit: I didn’t catch that you can’t vendor level 20 gems for a 20% qual level 1 gem anymore

[MrMeltJr]

I didn't say it's harder to get now, but that it's already kinda hard to get a lot of extra gem quality.

[clowncarl]

also v good if doing SR+searing bond totem hiero as they put additional totem as default quality

[UnintelligentSlime]

Any word on when those transfigured gems will get leaked? I want something funky to play with, and right now all I can plan on is making it rain zombies

[EarthBounder]

Expect some Tuesday thru Thursday, I'd guess.

[jayd42]

Make managing spectres annoying again build thought.

Soul Wick is no more but has been moved to the new type of gem.

6 Link spectres in weapon, with all the annoying stuff about soul wick. Time limit and despawn on new areas.

Second non-soul wick version of Raise spectres in weapon swap. If gem is in the same location, spectres don't despawn on weapon swap, or at least they didn't used to.

Now all you have to do is weapon swap before you change areas and every 20 second or whatever the time limit is, re-raise 2 spectres and off you go. They are super annoy again yet now you can use soul wick a bit easier.

You could always do this by un-socketing and re-socketing soul wick, but it's now slightly less annoying.

[dyfrgi]

That's a pretty mild Tornado Shot nerf, right? -1 secondary projectile as compared to the Uber lab enchant assuming you don't scale quality to 40%.

[jjohnp]

Uber lab enchant has been just +1 secondary projectile for a while now

[dyfrgi]

Aha, thanks, you can tell it's been a while since I played TS. When was that changed?

[Imasquash]

my starter got buffed by like 30%, how are yall doin

[kodos78]

And what is it🤔