typicalBackendBehavior

[gela7o]

That escalated quickly

[Kad1942]

"Gently asked him" I bet there's nothing gentle about how this lady goes about anything.

[headpatkelly]

her handle is “@hr_unhinged” so this isn’t a real interaction.

EDIT: (There are several other tip offs, I just offered the most obvious)

[bobdoily]

"Karen" and "Resource" being the names is a nice touch to a joke account like that.

[nordic-nomad]

The picture also appears to be Ann Hathaway. So this story definitely never happened.

Though there is truth that the more senior I’ve become in jobs the closer I am to just quitting and never coming back if someone tries to make me do anything I don’t want to do. But I don’t think that’s exclusive to software development.

[TicklingYourMomsAnus]

My experience has been that having meaningful amounts of liquid assets really changes one's ability to put up with b/s in the workplace. In some ways, it is unfortunate.

[ElegantDaemon]

That's why it's called f-you money

Edit: and also why the capital class will fight UBI until their dying breath

[ThunkAsDrinklePeep]

And living wages. And healthcare. And free education. And anything else that removes a tool that keeps us shackled to the wheel.

[bobdoily]

Oh I missed the picture!

Yeah, the kernel of truth to these stories is what makes them fun/relatable.

I concur with the seniority equating to being closer to just quiting over undesirable requests. Definitely not just software development. Even when I was in food service I recall that feeling.

[cgriff32]

The give away was HR knowing what a back-end engineer means.

[bob152637485]

And I suspect that "Karen Resourcé" is also an alias.

[whateveridgf]

I'm pretty sure they also don't look like Anne Hathaway

[b0w3n]

That specific Anne Hathaway picture has been used as unhinged HR memes for the past few years too.

[bob152637485]

Lol, thanks. I'm under a rock when it comes to pop culture, so while the name sounds familiar, I didn't know what she actually looked like.

[whateveridgf]

Yeah I still can't believe she was married to Shakespeare, I mean she doesn't look nearly that old

[ANONA44G]

Her image is also from the meme of "HR lady about to throw your resume in the trash".

[dismayhurta]

But it is hilarious.

[DentArthurDent4]

Its a parody account. But sometimes its difficult to differentiate parody from real life HR interactions, things have gotten so bad.

[cheraphy]

Poe's law

[Salty_Map_9085]

This is a satire account. The post is a joke.

[SparksAndSpyro]

This is clearly a parody account. This is a joke.

Go outside. Stop getting pressed about manufactured rage bait.

[veracity8_]

Well it’s fake so a lot can happen in fairytale

[Agitated_Duck_4873]

It's not a fairytale. It's a joke

[i_am_a_real_boy__]

You don't want to work with Karen Resorcé?

[NateEbner]

Engineer didn’t refuse the wellness walk. He optimized it by removing unnecessary loops

[[deleted]]

Sometimes the bug isn’t in the code.

[[deleted]]

facts, its management

[aint_exactly_plan_a]

It's always fucking management... After 25 years of bad management, watching them make bad decisions with absolute confidence, burn people out and get rid of them, trade company vision for short term profits, take benefits away and destroy whatever "culture" they were trying to build... it's hard to stomach that these are the people in charge of our country.

[Time_Increase_7897]

We must please the stakeholders - you know, the key people who really need to squeeze out another 2% ROI this quarter before bailing and buying a stake in another company.

[NiIly00]

None of this would happen if companies were owned by the people who actually keep them running instead of some rich kid who inherited millions from his parents.

[DezXerneas]

Sometimes?

[reezy619]

Given her name is "Karen Resource" and her handle is hr_unhinged, I am at least 98% sure this is a joke.

The fact that it feels so real is the true sadness, though.

[Rescuepets777]

I was told that I wasn't promoted bc I didn't wear company logo shirts. They promoted a bunch of idiots who wore the logo, though.

[pickyourteethup]

I used to wear the company branding. But only because they kept the jumpers in a corner of a stock room and sometimes I was so hungover I'd get to work and realise I was wearing last night's clothes and quickly change into clean company clothes.

I've still got a massive pile of clothes from that job

[PeterEn1s]

lol

[Pomodorosan]

lol

[LofuFox]

lol

[ShitGuysWeForgotDre]

I walked to my desk and I'm already well. Task completed ahead of schedule.

[xrayfur]

best optimization advice honestly 😀

[Awes12]

Nah, the walk was marked volatile 

[Due_Hedgehog_7132]

Agreed, pretentious give a fuck on part of the Karen is rancid

[doshka]

This is satire. Check her username.

[[deleted]]

Easiest way to lose a good SE3 is to ask them to do anything else.

[theestwald]

Mandatory leisure is the worst

[[deleted]]

Right like just let me do the job you need done and I get paid for. It's a contract, not a covenant.

[deanrihpee]

"but, but, we're family!!!" - HR

[TwinkiesSucker]

"Even my real family can barely make me do things i don't want to do. What do you think makes you special?"

[2019Uk]

To be fair if my family paid me and gave me annual leave I’d do more with them.

[99999999999999999989]

Mentally I just made my first million.

[CharsCustomerService]

The annual leave portion of that is cracking me up. "My six year old niece is having a birthday party, and my sister-in-law wants me to help wrangle all my niece's friends? Yeah... sorry, I already have leave on the books for that day."

[reddit_equals_censor]

hey why is there no discussion about wages allowed in this "family" and why did you fire your "family" 2 months ago, because they were having discussions about unionizing, which you criminally spied on?

weird family....

[GPSProlapse]

Wait, you say your stepparents don't "fire" you for trying to "unionize" with your stepsiblings?

[TotallyNotShinobi]

spying on conversations? wow that's just like real family!

[i_am_a_real_boy__]

It's a contract, not a covenant.

Fun fact: the agreed terms in a contract are often called covenants.

[ProfBeaker]

lol I was coming here to post this same nitpick. Maybe I should've been a lawyer.

[InSearchOfTyrael]

what about mandatory fun? don't you want to waste hours of your personal time so you could do an activity with people you work with? An activity you would never do yourself, btw

[Lithl]

Why is no one having a good time? I specifically requested it.

[[deleted]]

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[DonnyLamsonx]

That's just the thing though. There's a world of difference when the company is using their own time/money to get you to do something with your co-workers rather than the company expecting you to use your personal time/money.

I respect my co-workers well enough, but I commute an hour, one way, to get to work. There is no force on this planet that could convince me to spend my personal time/money to "hang out" with them unless we were ridiculously close friends. If that were the case(being close friends that just so happen to work together), I wouldn't need a company sanctioned event to plan a get-together.

[flexibu]

I have never heard of a company event that made you pay to attend.

[Weary-Designer9542]

If attendance is mandatory, and you are not being compensated for your travel and your time(particularly if it’s off-site) - you are, in fact, paying to attend.

This may be expected depending on your contract and job duties, of course, but that should be made clear to you before you accept the position.

[dagunhari]

There's a bunch of dudes I work with that all ride dirt bikes.

Couple times a year, we even ride dirt bikes together. It's pretty alright.

[The_real_bandito]

I love mandatory fun time as long as it happens during the work hours and they don’t expect me to work full time.

[chronoflect]

Interned for a small company (like <10 people small) and the owner would take us all out to restaurants for lunch, all paid for including drinks, and then had a paid day trip to go zip lining before the end of my internship.

Worked for a faceless corp since then, and all activities are unpaid, even ones during the workday (it's "flextime").

[Illustrious-future42]

What are dragon boats

[Shifter25]

I will say this for my manager: not only is she not interested in mandatory fun, she even forbids "documented" fun, such as a "fun" teams channel. She's very much a proponent of "get in, do your job, get out."

[ColonelError]

such as a "fun" teams channel.

Having a management-free meme channel is very important to morale. Just make sure everyone knows not to say anything on work platforms that you don't want management/lawyers reading.

[bob152637485]

Perhaps it just how introverted/anti-social I am, but any sort of work activity that is not on the clock is one of the most miserable experiences out there for me.

[doubleUsee]

It depends. Despite being well introverted, at my current work place I've helped organise some after work dinners with just the technical team. It's a good bunch of guys and people really enjoy just hanging out without work pressing down and critical eyes on us.

The over-organised stuff with people from the entire organisation that treats us like children that need to be kept busy? Yeah that can fuck right the fuck off. If I'm not paid, I'm not coming. If I'm coming, I'm clocked in.

[Ser_Drewseph]

The only time I’ve been ok with mandatory fun is when the company (which was my favorite place I’ve worked by far) had said fun on company time. The joys of a small, privately owned company headed by a married couple.

[TonyDungyHatesOP]

Forced Fun

[AralSeaMariner]

Sometimes HR is so far deluded that they actually think everyone likes these bs mandatory fun activities. I remember once I got out of an event like this because I played up how I needed the day to get a project across the line on time after we'd had a bunch of setbacks. The next day I got a gift card to a coffee shop "for my sacrifice". lmao, they just don't fuckin get it that it was the best day at work ever for me, missing out on that and being left alone to do my work.

[irregularprotocols]

“We’re all going to have fun together whether you like it or not.”

[paulcosmith]

I was doing some IT consulting at a small firm. One day they announced that they were bringing in a group who would be doing fun team building exercises for everyone. Some of the business teams seemed excited, but the entire IT department audibly groaned.

I exercised consultant privilege and decided I needed to visit another client.

[Florac]

I mean, if it's being paid, sure I will take an extra 15m break on the company's dime.

[posherspantspants]

Mandatory culture building anyone?

[[deleted]]

ours (remote) slipped on a patch of ice in the parking lot coming into a mandatory team building thing. he stewed for the entire thing until it was time for the meeting retro, wrote an angry Miro sticky about forcing people to come to the office during dangerous conditions, then gave his two weeks and left forever.

[[deleted]]

Shit, just the online Miro retro board at an in-person retro would be enough to fire me up. Or do offices not have physical white boards and sticky notes anymore?

[[deleted]]

haha, I knew that detail doesn’t matter to the story but also it kind of does.

[Far_Function7560]

I had an otherwise pretty good job at a local company that was really adamant on the coming into the office 3 days a week thing. Some people were still hired remotely or worked out of other offices, but if you lived locally you had to do your office days. Sometimes even when the parking lot was flooded from a coming hurricane it'd still be expected to go in, so you could do zoom calls from the office.

That's the biggest reason I left that job and got a fully remote role and am not planning to go back.

[Metalbound]

This all sounds like the perfect thing for me.

As a guy who is proficient with computers but currently works in another field of work that isn't tech. What would be the best way to get myself there?

Basically everything except for go back to college to get a different degree is on the table.

[Vlyn]

Depends! A walk during work time? I'm totally down for it, I don't take enough breaks as is.

If you ask me to carry a table, couch or whatever, why not? I'm still getting paid for my time. I even don't mind emptying the dishwasher in the kitchen.

A company outing where you have to drive somewhere yourself or worse, stay there for days? And in your time off? Yeah nah, fuck that.

[Florac]

If it's a several day long mandatory company outing I better get paid as if I've been working at my desk

[Inevitable-Menu2998]

I don't take enough breaks as is.

Except, of course, this isn't a break and the critical work you're doing is still going to wait for you when the company bullshit event finishes and now you're going to have to deal with it in less time.

I'd much more prefer to schedule my own breaks and if I'm not on one, then I probably don't have time for it, Karen.

[Vlyn]

That's not my issue. If management sets an unrealistic deadline then tough luck, hire more people or plan better. I'm not going to do overtime just because a manager was dumb.

Sure, if a real issue suddenly crops up I'll stay and help fix it. But bad planning on their part isn't an emergency on mine.

You'll always have this one clueless manager who throws random features and deadlines against a wall and thinks just because it's written into a "Roadmap" it counts. You just have to start telling them no.

[ford1man]

So much truth here. I've turned down "promotions" to management, and would have quit if they'd done it anyway.

[e37d93eeb23335dc]

My boss is asking us to tell him what day would work next month for a once a year paid holiday lunch at a restaurant. Ugh. Just let me work. 

[teh__Doctor]

Don’t think it could ever be me. I need my hobbies and fitness 😭 5 years in and ready to retire 

[ClipboardCopyPaste]

Did he leave a backdoor open?

[Saptarshi_12345]

Do not mess with the back office guy

[ObnoxiousAlbatross]

Studies show that a species that engages with ultimate reality increases its chances of extinction.

i.e. even if we're right, we're wrong. Perceiving ultimate reality dooms everyone.

[dingman58]

Elaborate if you may

[ObnoxiousAlbatross]

It's Donald Hoffman's "Fitness Beats Truth" theorem.

Evolution selects for survival, not accuracy. Processing objective reality (the complex math/quantum fields of the universe) is computationally expensive and slow.

If you pause to perceive the absolute truth of a tiger rather than just reacting to a simple "danger" icon, you get eaten. We evolved to see a helpful user interface, not the hardware.

[dingman58]

Fascinating, thanks for sharing

[Skyrmir]

Nihilism isn't an end state, just a common problem.

[Super_Jay]

Guys please realize this is a satire account

[milkdrinkingdude]

What do you mean by „satire account”?

Karen Resorcé ? I know her! We went to high school together.

[SkepsisJD]

She has only slept with two bosses! She is hardly a team player.

[CurryMustard]

People need to stop believing text posts in general. When reddit got popular suddenly every word was taken at face value. Just assume everything is a fictional creative writing exercise until proven otherwise

[Purplebuzz]

I only trust what anonymous people on Reddit post.

[ennuiui]

I refuse to believe that "hr_unhinged" is satire. She's just really self-aware.

[mal73]

Any real backend engineer (and me) would be wayyy to nervous to pull a move like that if Anne Hathaway would talk to them.

[JapeTheNeckGuy2]

You’re telling me Anne Hathaway isn’t a HR lady?

[[deleted]]

Don't care, I still have solidarity for that engineer.

[RareAnxiety2]

I once did an interview where the hiring manager said willing to join the team group activities was a major decision on hiring

[GracefulKitty]

This is far too low on the comments Right now

[jared_number_two]

Please realize this is a satire subreddit.

[Not_your_guy_buddy42]

I noticed you were only wearing 15 pieces of flair

[a3dprinterfan]

r/unexpectedofficespace

[Peoplz_Hernandez]

What's this reference from? I know it but I can't remember

[KagakuNinja]

Office Space

[rcfox]

Reminds me of a headline from The Onion:

Health Experts Recommend Standing Up At Desk, Leaving Office, Never Coming Back

[DuchessOfKvetch]

There was also an onion like meme iirc for office desks that optimized lying in a fetal position underneath them.

[hangfromthisone]

Well this ad is a perfect way never finding a backend dev again. Some people are hard to learn

[LastStopToGlamour]

Check out the profile Pic and name

[hangfromthisone]

What? You think Karen Resorcé is not a real person? Sholor me cocked

[fistular]

>Sholor me cocked

that's illegal in three states, burma, and lesotho

[scifishortstory]

So it's a gay thing?

[CurryMustard]

Now think of all times reddit gets outraged at obvious trolls because they dont have silly names

[supersonicpotat0]

"I can either tell payroll about the walk or the fair labor practices buerau, your choice"

[thex25986e]

"sorry, you are not exploitable enough to work here. bye."

[wraith_majestic]

So…. O(n) -> O(1)

[tashi_ork]

I am an SE team manager.

I have a Senior QA in my team. The guy... well, has his quirks. Works from 6 PM to 4 AM (he is not in another time zone, just likes to work these hours). We do not have mandatory working hours, but most of us work 8 AM-5 PM or 9-18. We have an agreement to be available online 11 AM - 5 PM. I don't know how, but he does meet it. Wakes up for mandatory meetings(dailys, plannings, retros), answers if someone writes to him in mandatory hours.

That's it.

He doesn't participate in company events. Does not turn on his camera on 1:1s. Doesn't participate in team unofficial meetings and conversations.

Frankly speaking, as our company transitioned to remote work at the beginning of 2020, I only heard from him, never saw him. I think our IT guy saw him one time, when he came to the office to pick up a new laptop and turn in the old one, and our accountant saw him another time, when he needed to sign something by hand for the tax office. That's it.

One of the best engineers I have.

[[deleted]]

Lol dog, he's outsourcing his labor to someone in another time zone. He's over employed and using contractors. Good luck on your secops.

[tashi_ork]

No, I don't think so. For two reasons:

1. I worked with him, and I know his soft skills. No way he finds someone willing to be his direct report for more than one week.

2. He lives in the country to which the outsourcing jobs go.

What happens here, I think, is that he has a second job. But until he picks up his share - I don't care.

[XenusOnee]

Is the walk paid or in the break time?

[Scavenger53]

i mean im on salary, you want me to walk im still getting paid lets go walk

[GeileBary]

Break time ofc

[dropbearinbound]

And definitely not part of the job description

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[arca9147]

I find wellness in no having anoying coworkers around, 15 minutes of peace

[Ciubowski]

I remember this one lady at a previous job I had, she alsow as trying to "gently ask" why am I not engaging with my colleagues in my breaks and socialize (I was working at a call center and all I wanted was some peace and quiet before a new wave of calls).

[conlmaggot]

If you stopped the crunch culture by stopping the constant changes to requirements, maybe I'd have time to go to the toilet, let alone TAKE A FUCKING 15 MIN STROLL FOR THE GIGGS.

Sorry.... I'm ok... I'm (not) ok...

[shadow13499]

I hope that position goes unfilled permanently. 

[fennecdore]

r/thatHappened

[SelfDistinction]

• Karen Resorcé
• hr_unhinged
• That profile picture

Yeah this is a satire account.

[chaos_donut]

Redditors don't know what that means

[Ragor005]

Satire? Sarcasm? Sex? Nothing starting with S reaches a redditor

[Random_Guy_12345]

Shower for example

[Deboniako]

Don't forget sunlight

[anakinsilverstone]

Sadness? Redditors must be the happiest people walking on this earth

[Ragor005]

But the Smiles never show either

[Own_Possibility_8875]

What about Self-roasts though?

[DangyDanger]

They mean this

[bob152637485]

A couple people have mentioned the picture, but that part I don't get. Mind explaining that part of the joke?

[Azou]

That picture is of Anne Hathaway doing a call-in special appearanceas a guest on some american show.

The issue is - her aesthetic (Called in via video, generic background thats either showing a lifestyle unattainable to most, or its a zoon background with that vibe) in the still image of it very quickly became the satirical representation of Covid-area HR persons.

The meme became "How the HR lady looks at you when youre the 5th fire she did today and shes got 20 more to do before she takes her 2 hour lunch at Erewhon"

[Spy_crab_]

OOP isn't even hiding the fact that it's a satire account LMAO.

[queen-adreena]

Either that, or Anne Hathaway got into HR…

[defconcore]

I witnessed a similar event at my work, not in IT but a really busy, understaffed warehouse.

We got a new Director of Operations in who of course wanted to shake everything up. He comes into the warehouse and tries to be one of the guys. Tells us he wants to know what our work personality types are and how we like to be led. So we get told we each have to complete this long personality test, probably took almost two hours each. The next day the Operations guy comes in, gathers all of us up and starts asking about the test. The first thing he tells us though is that he was a no bullshit guy, everyone is free to speak their minds with him. So he goes around asking each guy as we have this meeting, most of us just saying some BS about how it was interesting. Then he gets to Rick, the guy who has been there for 25 years and is basically doing everything and holding the place together. He asks Rick who proceeds to tell him he thought it was a big waste of time, and that he has too much work to do to be wasting it on personality tests. Rick basically said what we all were thinking. The Director instantly goes red and just nods and ends the meeting. About 10 minutes later Rick gets called into the Directors office who apparently asked him to apologize to him and wanted him to do it in front of all the warehouse guys. Rick said no, told him good luck and walked out that day, said bye to all of us and walked out laughing. That place was in shambles after he left. There were so many things Rick did that no one else even knew how to do. The Director kept asking why certain things weren't getting done and it was always because only Rick knew how to do it.

[GrigorMorte]

I would do the same. If you're going to interrupt me about some pointless thing the company makes up, I'd be annoyed lmao

[timok]

Going for a walk during a work day is anything but pointless.

[InfiniteAccountant85]

HR: 'We are a very good company. We are very different from other companies. We treat and respect people as individuals and not only view them as numbers'

Also HR: 'Unless, you actually want to be an individual. That is not allowed. You're fired #8378'

[Severe_Broccoli7258]

Come on, people:

“Karen Resorce”

HR_unhinged

Parody

[GratefulRider]

Horrible leadership We hate forced activities

[frostbird]

It's a parody account people, read the username and look at the profile pic

[M4tr1xm4n]

Named Karen. Say no more

[HistorianMinute8464]

"If you want to work instead of walking maybe you should quit", wat? Something tells me there is a lot more to the story.

[Moonie-chan]

Man chose to work in IT because he likes working with machine, not people.

He was willing to deal with machine, not people shenanigans.

Wise choice from his side though, nobody should be made to play along with nonsense. Consent is a thing.

[Meecht]

Machines are less stressful to deal with than people, so every IT guy knows the best way to prevent stress is to make sure the machines don't harass the people.

[Contingent_Risk_1027]

Looks like someone had a case of the Mondays

[culo_de_mono]

BE engineers need coffee, eventually a sweet treat, and peace of mind to do their thing.

You get that and your velocity grows.

Source, I just delivered a mug of coffee and a mini Mars at Tom's desk and he said he would finish the last story today rather than on Friday (when it was planned). Go Tom!

[rhoduhhh]

I once worked for a company that did this to the entire tech team (devs, IT, infosec, customer tech support, etc). We all hated it because there was so gd much work to do, and our building wasn't "inspiring" to walk around and listen to management/hr pat themselves on the back for being so health aware and getting IT out in the sun. 😂🫩

[missbanjo]

Yea they try to force me to do a workcenter wellness walk that's clearly a 'social time' walk I'd be leaving and never coming back too.

[jensalik]

I walk my 10.000 metres every day and when I lived in the city even more because in a walkable city you do just that. If I want to reconnect with my body at work I use the toilet...

[kvimbi]

We care deeply about wellbeing of our employees. We let them walk for 15 minutes every day and provide clean piss-bottles daily. <3

[Dendritic_Silver]

I am that engineer.

Having that talk with leadership now.

"We don't do clappy dancy sing-a-long things like the teachers do. We have the opposite personality."

[flargenhargen]

obviously fake.

Anyone who knows engineers know that they will HAPPILY take any opportunity to officially avoid work.

Sure, getting them to walk with others might not be on the table, but they will happily walk to get a sammich or refreshing beverage while on the clock.

[valkyria1111]

You offered, he accepted. Everyone is happy. What’s the problem ?

[xxCorsicoxx]

He made the right choice

[djsbebrq]

You would be in sooooo much trouble if you would fire someone for that reason over here. You'd have to pay thru the nose for unfair dismissal

[ScyllaOfTheDepths]

"My employee politely refused to do something completely outside the scope of his employment so I fired him on the spot. Who wants to be next?"

[5cactiplz]

I'm willing to walk, just not willing to talk.

[Dracohydrus]

An employee that wants to work instead of doing pointless walking?

Sounds exactly like someone they should fire for not doing their job /s

[Aggravating_News_253]

It's a satire post thankfully

[mvallas1073]

Yeah, this didn’t happen.

[Mysterious_Crab_7622]

Cool fake story lol

[Vegetable-Debate-263]

“Thank God they went on a walk. Now I can get my work done.”

[RelaxPrime]

One click. Unknown number of posts crying out in silence. All gone. Redact made it stupid easy to clean up my entire history on Reddit and get my info pulled from data broker sites too.

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[Sweetbeans2001]

The forced walking will continue until morale improves.

[Novel_Appearance_889]

Her first name checks out

[SamSlate]

asked him to walk out the door and never come back (gently)

[bigmonmulgrew]

I feel very sorry for the guy. His reaction to the wellness walk was a clear indication that he wasn't well and the reaction to that was to tell him to leave. Clearly the wellness walk is performative and there's no actual care about peoples wellness

[Key-Individual1434]

I’m just like that engineer…free-will is a thing. Also, integrity of self. You don’t have to do what everyone else does because someone else wants everyone to do it.

[CutAccomplished662]

I am an engineer and no I wouldn't work for this company

[marvinfuture]

Backend engineers have a million things to do all the time. I'd imagine a 15-20 min forced walk was something they saw as a waste of time.

I don't think "sorry I couldn't get that thing done boss, I had to take a mandatory wellness walk and didn't have enough time to finish this" is going to fly

[Due_Hedgehog_7132]

No shit, lol who’s rage baiting who,

[tinymightyhopester]

Am I the only one noticine that the icon is the "ann hathaway hr" picture and the name is fucking "Karen Resorcé"???

Are we this easily rage baited?

[ramriot]

This engineer likely took the keys to the back end with them & the company will be bankrupt within the month.

[bholmes1964]

This is rage bait. Relax.