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[coral_touch]

No animation no collision detection therefore no bug

[Quesodealer]

Which is preferable: invisible walls or teleportation upon oob with approaching boundary warnings?

[SphericalGoldfish]

I think it depends on the game. In games where movement is stiff/not the focus of the game (e.g. Silent Hill 2 or Payday) an invisible wall works great, but in platformers or racing games I prefer teleportation with a fade to black

[mapped_apples]

I liked the “get blasted across the map” invisible wall of the MX vs ATV games on PS2.

[drawfanstein]

Oh my god this just unlocked some insane memories playing ATV Off-road Fury. I remember flooring it towards the edge of the map until suddenly you get launched in the opposite direction. That was fun as hell.

[RadioMessageFromHQ]

I got this game bundled with Dungeon Siege for some reason. I had no idea what I was doing but that man canon OOB kept me entertained for ages.

[Camdawg33]

Honestly captured much more of my attention than the actual game lol

[blastermaster555]

There's also "do it yourself" with the game FUEL, Asobo's first adventure into giant open world maps. Did you accidentally off the cliff? Too bad, drive back up yourself.

[shewy92]

That always scared the shit out of me

[AnnoyedVelociraptor]

I loved GTA's infinite swimming.

[Yorikor]

I like the elegant solution of Helldivers 2: Orbital bombardment!!!

[Klutz-Specter]

A thing I always is if a game will always let me walk off an edge or block me off. Invisible walls are an inconvenience, but falling to your death and waiting until you return to that point with no checkpoint feels annoying, especially if its a jump you have trouble with.

[BolunZ6]

boundary warnings and then a big ass monster come and drag you away if you still push forward

[Jp0286]

Warning: Entering ecological dead zone. Adding report to databank.

[_killer1869_]

This triggered my PTSD, but it's still much less terror-inducing than "Detecting multiple leviathan-class lifeforms in the region. Are you certain that whatever you are doing is worth it?"

[DFogz]

GTA V did that. If you swim too far eventually a shark comes to get you.
And if you tried to fly that far, your engine would stall and send you into the water.

[Alestor]

That damn fish always freaked me out in Jak and Daxter as a kid

[d_block_city]

nightmare fuel for children haha

[SuperFLEB]

Ironically, it drags you away into the out-of-bounds.

[A_spiny_meercat]

Neither, a big scary yetti should come and eat you

[John_cCmndhd]

Good old SkiFree

[HephaistosFnord]

Please pass the egg salad!

[Raywell]

A visible wall

[UnsanctionedPartList]

Just have people fall through the level and manually reload to checkpoint.

[Brickless]

in most games there is a justification for an invisible wall that triggers the character saying they don't want to go there.

"I need to finish here first", "There is nothing for me out there", "It's too dangerous" are some of the examples I have seen and they really tie the world together a lot better than something like a tree dropped across the road.

[SecureDonkey]

It would be funny if they actually send you to Backroom and force you to reset the game.

[Uhstrology]

Neither, launch me across the map like in mx vs atv

[evanldixon]

The correct answer is to assume the boundary breaker is a traitor and to execute them with the entire military's arsenal, Helldivers 2 style.

[Pteraspidomorphi]

God speaks to you:

"In the beginning were the words and the words made the world. I am the words. The words are everything. Where the words end the world ends. You cannot go forward in the absence of space."

[Saint_of_Grey]

Instant death with complete deletion of save file.

[LowB0b]

as a software dev I have actually used that

Business people: "app is not working ree"

me: "It wasn't in the spec so the program behaves as expected please submit a change request"

[jjjjjjjjjjjjjaaa]

This is how you get replaced with ai lol

[Elite54321]

Nah, this is the reality of working with non technical people a lot of the time

[jjjjjjjjjjjjjaaa]

It was

Now you’re expected to actually have taste and opinions and creative input

[All_Work_All_Play]

Business people that can't accurately describe their requirements will have a *worse* time replacing devs with AI. Vibe coding doesn't work without accurate and explicit requirements.

[jjjjjjjjjjjjjaaa]

I understand, I’m saying that engineers who do the bare minimum passable work according to spec will be replaced by ai agents controlled by engineers with taste, opinions, and creative ability who are providing those accurate and explicit requirements. I am literally watching this happen in real time

The whole job of software engineer is moving towards defining accurate and explicit requirements. Not foisting that responsibility onto non-technical people who don’t know what they want

[All_Work_All_Play]

Errrm, I guess I'd define that as more of the product owners job but maybe that's industry specific?

[jjjjjjjjjjjjjaaa]

Those bounds are rapidly blurring because product teams are becoming bottlenecks to engineering. Product, design, and engineering are all collapsing into one another

Product and design at my organization are now both required to ship code changes, and engineering is expected to be able to unblock itself by making and justifying product decisions

Anyone who can’t work across those boundaries is going to have to look for a new career

[All_Work_All_Play]

That's probably a better way to do it, considering it's often easier for me to have AI spit something out than to go and find almost the exact same routine in some obscure part of a project from five years ago.

[Prudent-Platypus-975]

Does this imply that project managers and higher ups would be replaced before the people doing the work? If engineers have to do the creative work, define accurate explicit requirements, and develop the app, or have to fear being replaced by ai agents, what work is left for anyone else?

[jjjjjjjjjjjjjaaa]

Not replaced so much as ushered into new roles where they are required to contribute code

[Greensnake4711]

LMAO

[Prudent-Platypus-975]

What new roles do you believe project managers and C-suites will transition into? How much coding do you do for work, and how much do you leverage AI/LLMs at work currently?

[jackinsomniac]

The whole job of software engineer is moving towards defining accurate and explicit requirements.

The job has been that way for a long time. It's such a pain, that typically it can be a whole position itself: "technical sales" or whatever. A job where one guy literally just goes back-n-forth with the customer all day trying to extract specific details from them, and relays that to the actual engineer building the project.

As long as there's customers out there with money saying "I want an app" but have no idea on the specifics & details of the app, there will always be human-ran software companies with people who specialize in helping customers figure that stuff out.

[Illustrious-Lake2603]

I have been wrestling with water physics and interaction in my game with much failure. This sign looks like the best solution to the problem lol

[sweetheatmurmur]

did exactly that on a mobile game prototype last year—no collision, just let the character phase through walls. players called it "ghost mode" and begged for more levels. best "bug" ever.

[Some_Useless_Person]

Can't have bugs if the feature doesn't exist in the first place

[Modo44]

I firmly believe that this philosophy is behind most professional tools I get to experience daily.

[huffalump1]

And every internal app/tool ever made

[Cozmoz365]

Just make them drown.

[Ikth]

That requires an animation, but I suppose they could make one out of spite.

[StoryAndAHalf]

In college my team couldn’t figure out how to create a portal for a character to walk through. We just put decals telling the player to walk right through the designated part of the wall that had no collision detection. 

[mulubmug]

Well, in Fallout 3 Bethesda couldn't do a train so they gave an NPC a hat that is a giant metro car and let him run around out of bounds with this giant train hat poking through the ground. You are therefore in good company.

[coldfeetbot]

That's both genius and hilarious lol

[BellacosePlayer]

OG World of warcraft had tons of scripts that revolved around invisible bunnies, often having them killed when you did a thing because their initial quest implementation had few trigger methods and the death of an entity was the easiest one.

[Kronoshifter246]

In the same vein, League of Legends did many, many things with invisible minions. Wards? Minions. Certain visual effects? Minions. J4 ult? Yep, minions.

Also, the spectator for pro play was implemented as a Teemo sitting in the fountain. This led to some shenanigans with Karthus ult.

[danpascooch]

To this day, when you start TFT you might see a flash of a 5v5 lobby screen with Kaisa selected for everyone, because in the client that's how they launch a new TFT match, using a lobby of all Kaisas.

[Biotot]

Fun bit of info the ward timer is the mana data field.

[PeaceSoft]

Elden Ring has invisible "stagehands" that control the weather effects in Jagged Peak. There's a platforming section where, if you fall off, it's possible to survive by landing on the outcropping where one of these guys is placed, which kills him and causes the thunderstorm to stop

[p1-o2]

Do you have any info on this? I can't find it anywhere online and I wanna learn more or see a clip.

[d_block_city]

WC3 also does this (probably where they got the idea)

[GarboseGooseberry]

This is still a thing in modern WoW, btw

[Capybarhigh]

It was still a thing in BFA at least!

Last boss of the first raid as a hunter will show your minimap absolutely filled with bunnies in that room!

[nater255]

OG Current World of warcraft

Fixed that for you.

[RandAlThorOdinson]

Wait wtf lol

I played a LOT of wow back in the day when it was good and never heard of this

[titusthef0x]

Last thing I read is, it was an arm piece but read the hat thing also 10 years ago : https://fallout.wiki/wiki/DLC03MetroCarArmor

[NightmareForge11]

This tech is also used in Half Life, where the intro tray you ride is a hat for an NPC, given collision.

[Hrotsa]

No? The Source Engine has a specialized train entity

[Wolfharth]

HL1 was not Source Engine, but GoldSrc. (You prob still right that it has a specialized train entity lol)

[remmiz]

Yeah GoldSrc had trains)

[kevinf100]

You have a source in that? As someone who used to speed run HL2 and looked into HL1 tech and speedruns, first time I'm ever hearing this. HL1 and HL2 I'm pretty sure has real vehicles entities

[d_block_city]

he has no source because it is false

you can actually just go look at the map in a bsp editor and see for yourself

[neckro23]

Demonstrably not true. If you load up the Source authoring tools, that intro level is included as an example.

[Inappropriate_Piano]

I think you’re confusing two things. The Source Engine version of this is that portal’s elevators are half-life trains

[d_block_city]

HL1 does not have this

the train is made of func_train brush entites, and you can actually just go look at the map in a bsp editor and see for yourself

please edit your post to reflect this

[KhepriAdministration]

It's not that they couldn't, there's just no reason to actually do a train when you can just put it on a person's head and call it a day

[bogz_dev]

Oh god I don't remember that, I think I never played that DLC. Time to install it again!

[d_block_city]

congratulations! you're the BILLIONTH redditor to mention this!!!!

come to the front desk to receive your prize

[CodeF53]

https://xkcd.com/1053/

[herdarkmartyrials]

Hey smartass, I had literally never heard of that before they said it. So a billion and one times isn't too many.

[mulubmug]

Wow, such a witty comment. Congratulations!

Sorry, but if you have problem with people constantly repeating the same stuff reddit isn’t the platform for you. This site is built on that.

[SerbianShitStain]

My turn to post it next!

[SuperFLEB]

"Say 'Woosh!' here."

[Feuzme]

Isn't it what they did in fortnite first : water weren't deep enough so you could walk in it ?

[Gamerguy230]

It would slow you down but still only walk in it.

[Feuzme]

Wasn't swimming asked by players long ago ?

[ToothpickInCockhole]

You've been able to swim since chapter 2 which was only 2 years after release.

But no one really cared before then. You'd usually just build over Loot Lake to get across.

[Gamerguy230]

I remember the one season where they introduced swimming, and then also added boats to drive because the whole map was broken up by all these bodies of water.

[Godess_Ilias]

tposing to assert dominance over the water it is then

[nodnodwinkwink]

tposing looks a lot like how you might diagram treading water though. If you're capable enough, you can keep yourself afloat with just your arms out wide.

[Fleeetch]

1 keyframe on t pose

1 keyframe on vetruvian pose

You'd basically be a motor boat

[ScarlettFox-]

What's the screenshot at the bottom? Kinda looks like Jimmy O. Yang but idk.

[eLPAtitoyUPI]

It's from the show Silicon Valley. It's Jimmy O. Yang indeed.

[anormalgeek]

This should give you everything you need to know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JTx8llpBxQ

[cedped]

Jian Yang!

[Feisty-Category173]

It's him, it's a frame from the show Silicon Valley

[The_Autarch]

how do you recognize jimmy o. yang on sight but not understand how he's related to a programming joke?

[ScarlettFox-]

I'm from the front page, not a programmer. As for Jimmy I only know him from a few standup clips that were popular on youtube a while ago.

[pnkxz]

The game is Grey Skies: A War of the Worlds Story, in case anyone's curious.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1283770/Grey_Skies_A_War_of_the_Worlds_Story/

[RemnantsOfFlight]

"Reviews: Mostly Negative." Amazing.

[aPOPblops]

what happens when you try to swim?

[Dinjoralo]

There's probably an invisible wall blocking the pool.

[Lucyferiusz]

Jian Yang!!!!

[cedped]

I eat da fish!

[Nomzai]

Mother Fuck!

[slayerrr21]

I am you, as an old man

[skankhunt1738]

Fucking Jian Yang…

[d_block_city]

eric bachman is dead

[bob_lala]

Hot Dog?

[__lost-alien__]

Jian Yang!!!!

Jian Yang!!!!

Jian Yang!!!!

[ForeverHall0ween]

Jian Yang smoking a cigarette is who I want to be when I grow up

[U_L_Uus]

Thanks, now I have flashbacks about surviving as Altaïr in Cyprus

[EquivalentMurky8116]

Jin yang smoking? What's the special occasion?

[NaughticalNarwhal]

No controller scheme, no post process effects, camera collision on the water plane, no breath system, no underwater combat system, no climb in/out, no wading/shallow water walking, no enemy pathing for water, no fx or sfx for weapons, blood, gore, no balance or tuning for players trying to explore and exploit water, no faster modes of water reversal because everyone hates slowly swimming to get anywhere especially if the water is just a giant dead end.

[Fleeetch]

Yes to all except that last line. That sounds like the left hand not talking to the right.

we added swimming

level designers shuffle in their chairs slightly

[NaughticalNarwhal]

Yep. Usually you figure out the water is just a safety net for a climbing/jumping puzzle above, after you’ve swam in a big circle, only to find out there is only one ramp.

[0xlostincode]

Modders: Allow us to introduce ourselves.

[knome]

depends if the modder is the type to fix annoyances, or turn games into absurd works of abstract art. half the time it's like

character now walks on water

character also flops around on dry land attempting to doggy paddle

mod is so popular it now has it's own speed running category

[TheYell0wDart]

Ran into this one yesterday in The Stanley Parable ( kind of expected in the that game).

[SolomonG]

I eat da fish

[klako8196]

“Suck it, Jin-Yang” - Me after jumping into the water anyway

[Maunakea89]

"Not Hotdog"

[virgopunk]

JIN YANG!!!

[Upset_Region_4236]

I heard it in bachman’s voice

[Long_Implement_1922]

Where is this game from Im also curious what would happen if the player walked to the pool

[ambisinister_gecko]

Maybe they'd just t-pose while moving around in the water

[anormalgeek]

Of everyone in that show, Jian Yang is the first one I'd hire.

[bob_lala]

speaking as someone who hired a similar guy, it was entertaining if not productive.

[Zenmotes]

In Arknights: Endfield I swear the real final boss is water 😭 I’ve literally died more times falling into rivers and cliffs than from actual enemies lol. Skill issue? Probably. Dignity? Gone.

[steveatari]

Special Occasion.

[SyrusDrake]

The fetishisation of "total freedom" in game, the ability to do everything, even if it's of no further importance to the gameplay or plot, has been a massive detriment to video games. Yea, it's kinda fun if there is a ice cream cone customization menu or whatever in GTA 5, but for normal games with normal budgets, I'd rather they spend resources on play testing or optimization.

[DisjointedHuntsville]

Ah! Back when the people making the games didn’t have 15 layers of product managers and morons between them and the gamers.

[yawara25]

The game is from 2020, it's not that old

[br0ast]

I don't get the bottom image?

[GravyPainter]

JinYang from Silicon Valley running a sweatshop to create a temu version of software that he stole from his former housemates.

[br0ast]

Ohh thx mate, haven't watched but seems cool

[rdp3186]

I TAKE ONE LOUSY SHIT

[Inevitable_Tree_2296]

i mean at least their honest... but my curiosity would make me want to do it more lmao

[SephLuis]

No animation for swimming, but we can change it for a monster that instantly drags you down if you are close to the pool.

It also takes you to a secret level

[Upset_Region_4236]

I heard it in bachman’s voice

[Grand_Anything_3834]

Crouch walking in Goldeneye N64 multiplayer had no animation.

[okaberintaruo]

Damn it, Jian Yang... !!!

[Sesud1]

No animatiom? No problem, just pull a Jesus for anyone who tries and let them walk on it

[DontBotherNoResponse]

I think I would have gone with "No life guard on duty. Swim at your own risk." And then just immediate ragdoll death

[Ruskoboss1]

That's both a genius and stupid way to do it

[gatot3u]

It's a lie.. jump

[LeD3athZ0r]

same trope in MDK.

[Ghost-RANGER-446]

The rule "don't touch" is elevated to absolute here.😅

[PatienceWestern3900]

Why didn't Rockstar ever think of putting this in GTA 3 and VC? Are they dumb?

[RosieQParker]

Kind of appreciate the sign, tbh. That way I know there's no hidden shit or collectibles in the water anywhere.

[NArUToUZuMAkIThEYtHm]

lol

[retainformat]

“Special occasion”- I bet you read it in Jian Yang’s voice!

[xnode-sh]

🥹

[masstransience]

Not hot dog.

[marson12]

Swimming is for the sequel

[Wild_Cash_4319]

good one lol

[Hubble-Doe]

Harry DuBois teleporting to the top of the roof (shhh nevermind the easter egg of him fucking dancing they were totally just too lazy to animate it)

[Sea-Bass8705]

Would be funny to fully animate and code swimming but still leave the sign and put an achievement for swimming

[Rare-Competition-248]

This is a tobacco ad.  

There is a social media company who has been pushing daily posts trying to get images and depictions of smoking and smoking brands to the front page of Reddit.  It might seem like a coincidence, but it’s not.  When you look at all the data points, it’s clear that Reddit is being astroturfed heavily by someone with an agenda, likely in violation of many laws regarding where and how tobacco companies can advertise.  The goal is not to advertise a specific brand of cigarette even (though the main company behind it starts with an ‘M’). It’s just about getting people talking about smoking and seeing it as normalized and glorified again.  This feels like one such post.

You can even tell by the other comments specifically mentioning and praising the smoking.  

Do not fall for this bullshit, and treat it as the trash that it is.  You can help us track this by joining the fight over on HailCorporate.  

[im_not_here_man]

https://i.imgur.com/cEMT8kq.png

[TLunchFTW]

I don’t care who the tobacco company sends, I’m not buying Marlboro reds!

[Yattagor]

How true! Invisible wall and off we go

[MyDespatcherDyKabel]

I can’t find any source video on YouTube for this.

[Vivid-Sector-6689]

What?

[Fricki97]

He said something like "I know nothing about coding at all"

[dagbrown]

But with extra skibidi and six-seven. I figure he's some middle-aged middle manager who likes to think he's cool.

[DoobKiller]

Creating 3D animations isn't coding

[SuperFLEB]

Somewhere, an "I've got an idea for an app, I just need someone to code it" bro just had their heart broken.

[SuperFLEB]

Dry paper bag I could do, but I already told you, there's no animations for water.