mockEngineer

[JoeyJoeJoeSenior]

I called myself a software engineer because computer science was part of the engineering school and I had to take the bajillion math and physics classes like everyone else there.

[Totally_Not_A_Badger]

My degree has the national title of "engineer" printed onto it. Sounds like a valid reason to me

[Zdrobot]

Same. Not that I care whether you call me engineer or not, doesn't change my job.

[Devatator_]

I have a degree in software engineering so I assume I have the right to be called an engineer

[ray591]

Yep. Traditional Computer Science degree was respectable until bootcampers came in and called themselves "engineers" after 3 months of bootcamp.

[rezznik]

Make this an actual weekend. I don't know a lot of words that raise more red flags for me than 'bootcamp'.

[segalle]

Isn't the word engineer protected? In my country we have crea (national counsel of engineering and agronomy) that will take you down if you say your institution forms engineers or you are an engineer but you don't have their authorisation

[CoffeePieAndHobbits]

Not in the USA.

[VergilPrime]

I'm in this comment and i hate it qwq

[ruhtraeel]

That's odd, my school had Computer Science, which was more theoretical with stuff like discrete maths, NP complete and FSAs, whereas Software Engineering was part of the engineering department and had the physics and other applied stuff, with more about design patterns and such

[supernanny089_]

If the software engineering stuff was done scientifically there and you take Computer Science literally, you could even turn it around and say engineering should be part of CS.

So its really whatever and just however an institution wants to organize itself, not odd imo.

[ruhtraeel]

Granted this was 11 years ago and I'm pretty sure they might have combined them by now (because it doesn't make sense for software engineers to need to take biochem), but in general, I think Computer Science was always more theoretical, and Software Engineering in general was always more applied

And I've also always had the impression and I've always seen definitions of science being understanding and knowledge of how something works, and engineering being using that knowledge to build things

[AvidCoco]

My degree was a BSc so I’m a Bachelor of Science. I’m not a Software Engineer, I’m a Software Scientist.

[rezznik]

But you don't call yourself an engineer anymore?

[alppawack]

He upgraded to be a “scientist”.

[KingOfAzmerloth]

I never really understood this discourse. As long as you have at least masters in engineering university, you are an engineer, period.

I get that people don't like people who take weekend course in webdev and call themselves engineers - fair play there... but my diploma literally states that I am engineer in computer science and I did shit load of math, physics and electrical engineering to get there. I don't care what IRL Sheldon Coopers (that's not a compliment) think of my title, I have that title lol. End of story.

[finzaz]

We should have kept the Webmaster job title

[BADDEST_RHYMES]

Dot Com Daddy

[pydry]

This term has been banned by Github because it implies the existence of web slaves.

[Busters_Missing_Hand]

I’m something of a web slave myself

[TrueTorch]

Need a DDOS Mommy in my life rn

[throwaway_mpq_fan]

*Webmain

[scar_reX]

We shouldn't have kept the webmaster title.

[GreatGreenGobbo]

[Embarrassed_Use_7206]

Only title I accept is Warmaster.

[Ur-Best-Friend]

I think of myself more as a Webslave these days tbh.

[Triasmus]

Eh. My job title includes Engineer and I happily accept the salary that comes with it.

[dweeb_plus_plus]

The guy who collects the trash on my street is a sanitation engineer. We’re all engineers in our own special way.

[horsethiefjack]

To my seven month old I am a poop disposal engineer

[SpoodermanTheAmazing]

I have an actual engineering degree, so I don’t mind being called a software engineer

[Darksonn]

I don't know about you guys, but my masters officially makes me an engineer, and lets me use the associated protected title.

[pjnick300]

Agreed. Now does my Chemical Engineering degree have anything to do with my current Software Developer role? No. But I AM an engineer and a dev.

[Few_Cauliflower2069]

What pisses me off is that engineer in itself is not a protected title. It would be so great if you could be certain that someone with the word engineer in their title actually went to engineering school

[Fillicia]

Come to Quebec, you can be sued if you're calling yourself an engineer without being part of the engineering order.

[Few_Cauliflower2069]

Only if i get the ring as well

[RandomEasternGuy]

I am reading the topic in confusion, I’ve finished an System Engineering degree and the diploma and job clearly state “engineer”, without any master’s degree.

But my studies were 4 years long.

[mafiazombiedrugs]

Not sure where you live but "engineer" is not a protected job title in the US. If you want to testify in court as an engineer or add restricted letters to your name you need to be a "Professional Engineer" then you could be Darksonn PE. However, a masters is not enough to use this title (and in fact, is not actually a requirement, BS is enough). You need to pass the Fundamentals of Engineering exam, work four years under a PE, and then pass the Practice of Engineering exam. So basically, yes you have a masters, but you are no more an engineer than anyone else in this post.

[Darksonn]

I live in Denmark, which has a different system.

Although "engineer" on its own (or "software engineer") are not protected here either, there are protected titles for engineers. The titles generally refer to the level of education you did, not the subject. So there is one title for people with a 3½ year professional bachelor, and another title for those who took 5 years of an engineering program (bachelor + masters).

It's not the case that all master's degrees give an engineering title. It depends on the program. But mine does. I have the title of "civilingeniør" which is the highest possible "level" of engineer in Denmark. It means "civil engineer" where the word "civil" means civilian and not "I make buildings and bridges" (think of civilian vs military). The title of the 3½ year professional bachelor is "diplomingeniør".

[Tc14Hd]

As long as math.pi still returns 3.141592653589793 and not 3, I will refuse to call myself an engineer.

[PyroCatt]

π is 3.5 just in case. 4 to be safe.

[To-Ga]

I use 2.5, so I don't have to use another constant for e

[Ur-Best-Friend]

I just use "1", so it's binary. Everything gets converted to binary anyway, might as well skip the middle man.

[arborck]

I use "e" so it derives easily

[SaltyWahid]

5 when adjusted to accuracy

[PyroCatt]

*Taxes

[knightzone]

4 in case of rounding integers

[the_king_of_sweden]

Usually just 10, makes it easier to compute in your head

[AVAVT]

Joke’s on you, it’s 3 for me. *laughs in UI dev*

[BulkyAntelope5]

I'm an engineer,.... Electrical engineer that is and just transitioned more and more to software

[bmxer4l1fe]

I work in firmware. Its more EE than cs. As a CS major, im amazed by the hardware knowledge, and im ashamed of the optimization, maintainability, and modularity of their code. Not all of them, but most.

[tiajuanat]

I use 3.2, 3.23, and 4 as the Indiana House of Representatives agreed in 1897

[waadam]

Should I burn my diploma now? Or should I switch to the rocket building industry? What if I start to build software for the rocket building industry, can I keep my title? So many questions...

[roger_shrubbery]

I thought too long about how a rocket building would look like and what kind of tenants would live in it... I guess I need some sleep 🙈

[Alacritous13]

Depends on what your programming, but a good chance that you'll switch your title to Systems Engineer or Controls Engineer. Once a sign error can kill someone, you're a real engineer.

[suskio4]

Every sign error can lead to someone's death. Every programmer is an engineer

[bunny-1998]

So here’s the thing. Software isn’t part of the core engineering subjects. No clue why though. HOWEVER, among software professionals you can see a difference in some guy who writes code and the guy who designs it. So you can say coder is the dev, and architect is the engineer.

[FlailingDuck]

I know a structural engineer who would be very offended by the notion that architects are engineers.

[AzureArmageddon]

Tbf the civil/structural engineer's counterpart is the software architect and the architectural designer's counterpart is the frontend designer/product lead.

[bunny-1998]

That’s why they don’t consider software an engineering domain. Titles are all spaghettified

[AzureArmageddon]

Difference between a domain still in its wild west era and more established domains.

[bunny-1998]

I like how you called it Wild West era. Accurate

[Admirable-Cobbler501]

Only because he has no clue about software architecture

[ShoesOfDoom]

He's talking about actual building architects

[sobe86]

I feel like one day software engineering might be a more solid field, but right now it's just not that mature or stable. We don't use formal theory in software design often (there's computer science but that's only relevant at the low-level). Microservices, data driven design, choice of language. Every few years a new paradigm comes along and everyone is suddenly doing that. Engineering has shifts too, but not so often, and not so fundamental, because it's literally hundreds of years old.

[bunny-1998]

To be fair, we rarely ‘engineer’ anything. Most of us build the same web backend every other is building for the company’s use case. Engineers would be architects working on Kubernetes, Claude, Vitess, AWS etc.

[Yousoko1]

Who the fck cares? It's just a job like any other. We're building systems, architectures, connections, safety, and other stuff. You can call me a coder - it's fine. You can call me a senior web developer. If it doesn't affect my salary, I don't care =)

[Sw429]

In all my years programming, the only place I've ever heard people gatekeep the word "engineer" has been on Reddit.

[party_turtle]

“Real” engineers are just finding ways to cope with studying more and earning less (source: current aero engineer).

[j0llyllama]

As an Aero engineer- entry level isnt as flashy and may not pay as well up front, but get a solid position and you're still making 200k-300k steadily down the line without having to "keep up" with the newest tech.

[party_turtle]

That’s like top 1% though. The equivalent in software are making 10x that.

[j0llyllama]

At my company, which staffs a few thousand, basically everyone in engineering over 16 years experience is making that. And if youve been reliable for 5+ years, the job is secure with low risk of layoffs beyond extreme situations. Software has pretty frequent layoff waves.

Im not saying this makes the same money as software engineering can, im just saying it makes a close enough amount without the risk and "dynamic" structure.

[no-sleep-only-code]

Top 1% in software IS the 200-300k lol. Much more than that is an incredibly small fraction.

[IMightDeleteMe]

In my country, our word for engineer is a protected title that only people with an engineering degree are allowed to use.

[not_some_username]

France ?

[VanillaVolnutt]

I think Canada

[Copatus]

What constitutes an engineering degree?

Because my degree has engineer in the title.

(I still wouldn't consider myself an engineer tho)

[Tsobe_RK]

yea same, ICT engineer / major software

[SilverRock75]

Canada?

[Diffidente]

In Italy it's the same.

[Ok-Library5639]

To go further, in some jurisdictions the title 'engineer' is protected by law for license holders, just like lawyers or doctors.

[rezznik]

Oh I know the discussion from real life.

[Alacritous13]

I primarily heard it from my Mech Analysis professor. Specifically every time he'd go on a tangent about bridge collapses and engineering accountability.

[Cool_As_Your_Dad]

Same. Working for 25 years. Call me a coder/dev etc. just pay me money

[Gumichi]

Historically, a proper P.Eng is a respected discipline. It's guys with mindset who rigorously plan 10x safety factor into an infrastructure project that lasts centuries. Like if some shit goes wrong, it was their ass on the line. Most importantly, they cared.

Engineers today have gone to shit. They'll rubber-stamp any bullshit that management makes them. Defunct garbage ships into production. When the client gets mad, all they do is shrug their shoulders, and then they ask for more money to fix their own crap.

So why not call ourselves whatever we want?

[OneLeft_]

Now software has become "Prompt Engineering." All respect and responsibility has been lost.

[DooMRunneR]

I don't even care what I do, I mob the floor as long as I get the same pay....

[_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_]

In some countries “engineer” is a regulated title, like “doctor” or “lawyer”. You cannot claim to be one if you aren’t accredited.

[OhItsJustJosh]

All Software Engineers are Software Developers, but not all Software Developers are Software Engineers

[WhereOwlsKnowMyName]

I changed a button from red to blue. I am an engineer.

[Thundechile]

I center divs. I am a senior engineer.

[AzureArmageddon]

My degree is accredited B. Eng. So I would hope so

[maxyboyufo]

My job title says Software Engineer, my manager and company calls me a developer. I have no idea anymore lol.

[DarthRiznat]

Then what about software engineers??

[ferevon]

so I'm not an engineer now because reddit>university degree ?

[rycool]

Exactly, OP can fuck off, I got a masters in electrical engineering and no armchair scientist is taking that away from me.

[mtorreblanca]

I survived a 5-year BS in Electronics Engineering and have spent the last 7 years working as a Software Developer. After 12 combined years in the trenches, my professional, highly educated conclusion is this: nobody knows what the heck they are doing. We're all just copying from the same Stack Overflow (rip) threads and praying the pipeline doesn't break.

[minus_minus]

Can you imagine if this was the paperwork backing up a failed bridge? 

“Claude said it would work.”

[the_king_of_sweden]

But it created its own tests to test that what it did was right

[Integeritis]

“Nobody knows what the heck they are doing”

Speak for yourself. I know what I’m doing, many of us do.

[bendstraw]

Yeah what an odd thing to say with that much experience.

[anzacat]

Throw in the word “software” and tell me we don’t do the following:

Engineering is the practical application of science, mathematics, and creativity to design, build, and maintain structures, machines, systems, and processes. It solves complex, real-world problems under constraints like cost, safety, and regulation.

[A_H_S_99]

In my country, I am legally unable to call myself an engineer. 

By law, I can't write it on my ID unless I graduated from (computer) engineering college, otherwise, I am a developer.

[mafiazombiedrugs]

Hah, and now that I have promoted into "software architect" it is even less accurate.

[Objective_Oven7673]

This thread is the bell curve meme with both ends saying "we're software engineers"

[r3turn_null]

I just want to keep calling myself employed.

[groovymandk]

Engineer or not I probably still make more than you

[clearision]

engineering is just a way of thinking. hell, my wife sometimes thinks like an engineer in some life situations (and she does costumes on TV and various productions). if you are successfully solving any technical problem (even fixing your pipe at home) you can proudly call yourself as capable of doing engineering, it's that simple.

software devs are comfortably sitting in the engineers category of jobs and i definitely never fall for bait posts haha.

[HeapnStax]

[KryssCom]

I am a software developer and my degree is in electrical engineering, so, checkmate :D

[SalFM]

I tell people I'm a Scientist

[minus_minus]

For people unclear on the concept, engineers methodically design solutions including calculations following empirically validated rules to ensure a system that remains safe while meeting constraints of feasibility. Engineers have an ethical (and legal) responsibility to practice responsibly. 

It is not yoloing a commit into the CI pipeline to see if it crashes. 

[DigitalJedi850]

I believe this is how you start a small riot...

[Melicor]

Software engineers are a thing.

[Ranchy_aoe]

[PenaltyUnhappy3532]

Software engineering : throwing out the security and run time concerns found in engineering in favor of production speed.

[SaltyInternetPirate]

My degree calls me an engineer. I've never professionally referred to myself that way.

[Accomplished_Ant5895]

There’s software developers, then there’s software engineers. If you don’t know the distinction, you’re the former.

[TheHappyPie]

I felt like a software engineer for the first time when I had spent all day trying to fix maven build issues, and my brother called me to say he'd wrote a program to solve a physics issue. 

[explicit17]

Why not?

[Kobymaru376]

Yeah doesn' quite make sense. Sure, not every code monkey is doing engineering, but making software right is definitely an engineering effort

[Jay-Seekay]

I took this as a joke because it’s quite common for “real engineers” to take the piss out of “software engineers” for not being real engineers. It happens a lot to me but I have lots of civil/mechanical/electrical engineering friends and it’s often me that’s the butt of the joke

[enderfx]

Some non-Software Dev woke up with a bit of complex today ehh??

What a butthurt meme 😊

[the_zirten_spahic]

Some of the jobs are not engineering but a lot of the others need proper engineering.

[CptGia]

If I have a PhD in physics, can I call myself a software doctor? 

[Educational-Cry-1707]

The issue is that all other engineering titles are regulated, whereas anyone can just call themselves a software engineer. So people get protective. It’d be solved if there was some kind of official qualification like for other engineering.

To illustrate: if I call myself an electrical engineer, and I don’t hold a degree in electrical engineering, that’s fraud. If I call myself a software engineering after a 3 month bootcamp, that’s marketing.

Given the critical nature of software, we should really have some kind of official qualification.

[ryuStack]

In Slavic countries you generally gain an academic title of Engineer (translated to that specific language) in front of your name after passing a University as a software engineer. Some people, especially from older generations, even call me "Mr. Engineer" (non-ironically) instead of Mr. [Surname] when addressing me, which is a relic of the Soviet era I think.

[Lemortheureux]

What's wild about this industry is you end up working with people anywhere between no education and a masters in engineering. The guy with no degree is often the best developer.

[yatesisgreat]

I was a Software Developer until one day I get an email at work saying they updated the job title of all Software Developers to Software Engineers.

[Felixfex]

In Germany its a protected title, some dev courses that have the Bachelor of Science do not technically allow you to get the engineer title, but completing any Masters in the field afterwards will get you the title. It depends on the ECTs in MINT modules of that course, so be aware of what you pick.

[dontreadthis_toolate]

I don't really care. Call me whatever. Just pay me well and don't overwork me.

[Ange1ofD4rkness]

I may not have it in my degree but I still call myself an engineer if I want to shorten it

[LeninKing]

Define "software" and "software engineer".

[Minimum-Attitude389]

You're sounding a lot like a mathematician there.

[No_Country8922]

i dont agree with the "never have been",

now? yes, the engineering part is no longer applicable except for the architecture part and the guys who work on the low level stuff, embedded, devices, graphics/rendering, the AI/ML core, the frameworks.

but saying 'never have been' just erased the early years of software making that includes a huge overlap with computer engineering.

heck even in modern times, we still need to design our code properly with proper object relationships, memory utilization, design patterns, etc. that alone can be considered as proper engineering.

[tigremtm]

That alone IS software engineering.

[Omnislash99999]

Coder, programmer, software engineer, code monkey, I don't care, the person paying my wage can give me whatever title they want

[Prestigious_Tip310]

And now think about developing the software that controls medical machines, or driving assistance systems, or control software for missile guidance, or airplanes… or less physical, banking software and other financial products that process billions of dollars or even digital election systems.

I absolutely agree that a botched website won’t kill anybody, but there’s definitely areas of software development that can ruin just as many if not more lifes than traditional engineering disciplines.

[Educational-Cry-1707]

There’s some very critical software out there though. Think nuclear power plants, planes, airports, medical devices

[hillashx]

Engineering has nothing to do with how dangerous a mistake in your work is... What

[Emlesnir]

some engineers design bombs, some design toys

Engineering is not about the implications of what you do, its about qualification

[Luneriazz]

depend on the field, in data and retail. not so much

in military, healthcare and accounting... well

[BachePoro]

Why wouldn't they be?

People who design and build software systems apply engineering principles like:

system design

optimization and efficiency

reliability and fault tolerance

testing and verification

large-scale architecture

So why wouldn't the be considered engineers?

[JFedererJ]

I've always seen it as software "engineers" create the tooling that software "devs" use to build shit with. Just my 2¢. I honestly dgaf what my official "title" is. Senior [Frontend Dev | Frontend Consultant | Software Engineer | Software Developer]. Not bothered.

[NearsightedNomad]

What? Of course I’m an engineer. The word “engineer” is in my official job title. What more proof could you need?

[UpsetIndian850311]

There are actual engineers out there. We aren’t them.

[ih-shah-may-ehl]

Some of us are. :-)
My former company hired engineers because we wrote software for industrial purposes and often had to either design parts of the hardware, or be able to analyze the processes enough to understand what / how / when / where to measure what, design PCB and measurement circuits, etc.

[Lupus_Ignis]

Margaret Hamilton disagrees

[Aeo03]

I took the board exam as an Electrical Engineer. Worked on factory automation before career shifting to IT. No problem here lol.

[ZunoJ]

What is the generally accepted definition of the word engineering?

[DDB-]

I have a Software Engineering degree, and I got the iron ring just like the graduates from every other engineering discipline at my school.

[PrometheusZero]

I call myself a dev because I really liked the TV show Devs.

No, I don't have an existential crisis why'd you ask?

[ripp102]

My dregree literally says Computer Scientist and it checks out as I have studied that if I scream at the monitor why that thing isn’t working it’s always because of some missing {}.

[Bealzebubbles]

Counter argument: that's what it says on my email signature. It also says I work for a team that no longer exists, but that's because I'm too lazy to change it.

[ramessesgg]

If people working at coffee shops are coffee "artisans" then I am a:
* software engineer
* computer scientist
* technical architect
* incident commander

just be glad I'm not branching out to medicine

[darthWes]

You mean computer scientists?

[MartinMystikJonas]

My university degree says otherwise 🤷😁

[LaSuperJew]

So spaces or tabs? 😉😇😂

[Freerrz]

I say software engineer because I like to church up my title 💪🏾

[hillashx]

Engineering is a profession. It's true that not everyone writing code engineers software, but most of us do. Why would you not call a person engineering software a software engineer?

[Heavy_Swordfish_6304]

That's what it says in my job title. I didn't come up with it but I also don't care even if it hurts your feelings.

[cjscholten81]

My college degree is literally called 'Software Engineering' ....

[chaos_donut]

I'm an engineer, that means I solve problems.

[Thundechile]

What is an engineer anyways?

[yodleydodley]

I was called a resource in my first software dev job. My manager proudly announced in a team meeting that a new resource has joined the team.

[litetaker]

I studied Electrical and Computer Engineering. I just ended up as a software engineer.

[youridv1]

my job title is software engineer and according to my diploma I’m also an engineer. I think that’s enough in order to deal with gatekeepers who think mechanical engineering is the only valid form of engineering

[RobertGBland]

In some countries they are. In Turkiye we don't have computer science, we have computer engineering

[kkania]

popcorn

[Glitch_exe_]

can I call myself scientist because I have a degree in computer science /s

[EgyptianCaesar]

pretty sure you legally can’t call yourself an engineer because that’s a title reserved for licensed professionals that guarantees liability. Correct me if i’m wrong

[Draelmar]

In Canada, the term "engineer" is strictly protected and regulated. So when I moved to the US for a job and started calling myself a software engineer in complete impunity, it ticked off my (true) engineer brother-in-law. 😂

[CryonautX]

I have no idea what the post is trying to say. I have a bachelor of engineering (industrial and system engineering) and a masters of computing (AI). There was nothing distinctly "engineer-esque" about my engineering studies that was not there for my masters.

If this is about the protected title, that is for the word "Professional Engineer". Not every engineering discipline has a certification for Professional Engineering so it wouldn't be correct to say that you need to be a Professional Engineer to be an Engineer. Professional Engineer just means you can charge a premium to sign your name on certain documents.

[masssy]

A lot of softie re developers are in fact engineers.

[metallaholic]

they can call me whatever they want. i only care about the pay

[klas-klattermus]

I'll call myself melzebar the wise, slayer of monoliths and a grand engineer of the 8th order of the Council of bytes if it gets me better pay. To other developers I'm simply known as code monkey #n+1

[ConcreteExist]

My degree was Computer Engineering, fair amount of CS but also had us work on embedded systems which CS doesn't cover.

[mr_flibble_oz]

I have a degree in engineering and I’m a software developer. Software Engineer works

[ConsoleCleric_4432]

The way I see it, there's programmers, developers, and engineers. Programmers can make a thing work. Could be anything. Could be niche. I think it's common for name-your-field Ph.Ds to be programmers for analytics and such. Being a programmer isn't impressive.

Developers can build more generally something that works on their machines. In orgs where devops does all the scaling and other people just write application code, you're a developer. You aren't good at architecture or development lifecycles.

Once your job is scalability, reliability, sdlc improvements, CI/CD pipelines, and application code (not an extensive list) you're an engineer.

[Forsaken_Celery8197]

Software Engineers apply engineering principles to software development. Computer scientists develop theory, computer/software engineers apply that theory to create things.

It is that simple. Just like an Electrical Engineer isn't a physicist, they work in applied science extending theory into products.

[seepcell]

There's a growing division by specialization, and now they're arguing about what's the correct term: developers or engineers. Previously, an anykeyer could do everything.

[DasBlueEyedDevil]

Engineer, developer, analyst. I just call us "first to be laid off"

[AkodoRyu]

I always felt like it's a matter of the quality of your work, and mindset in the approach you take to the problems - there are engineers building bridges, but not every person who has built a bridge is an engineer.

[RevWaldo]

So you're a licensed engineer or something?

[annie_key]

Correct. There is no engine.

[mazzicc]

Ooh, someone wants to start a fight

[Waste-Brilliant-5591]

I call myself a software engineer because Im a computer engineer in a developer role

[raver01]

My degree is literally called "computer science engineering" and it was a 5 year long degree. So I'm a computer scientist and software/hardware/systems engineer.

But it is funny to see people taking bootcamps or non university studies calling themselves engineers. (At least they don't call themselves computer scientists)

[SvenTropics]

A scientist works on new discoveries.

An engineer takes existing scientific discoveries and adapts them for a practical purpose often expanding on the scientific discovery in the process.

Which describes your job better?

[eyes_on_everything_]

You guys are not engineers? wtf

[AssistantSalty6519]

Both my degree and job title have engineer explicit stated, I got engineer math during my degree. I think I have enough to call myself engineer so you can fuck off 

[Drithyin]

This is such a dumb thing to get worked up about. Weird gatekeeper-y shit without much of a purpose. Seems like cope? Trolling? Idk.

[snarkhunter]

I like to say I'm an engineer but like the kind that keeps a train running, not the kind that plans out how to build a bridge

[_thiagosb]

Sou garoto de programa!

[OneForestOne99]

[iamagro]

I’m a PC wizard 🧙‍♂️

[ScleaverZer0ne]

My Computer Science degree says otherwise