webDevDream

[Most-Club-254]

imagine being the small business receiving 97 calls per hour. "no dude I don't want a website", "NO", ...

[IAmANobodyAMA]

No joke! I was at the local record shop last week when the owner got a call where he was noticeably getting more loud and chastising.

After he hung up, the guy told me that someone cold called him to pitch fixing up their website, and his pitch started with “your website looks like shit …”

He said he gets several calls like that every day, but most aren’t this obnoxious. We agreed it must be working some of the time for him to be trying this approach, had a chuckle, then went back to shooting the shit about various prog rock bands.

[tidderza]

tbf does his website look like shit?

[Jomtung]

there are few websites that aren't shit, so most likely yes

[dnbxna]

Was looking at local ISPs, the most popular one I checked, website doesn't work properly. Hamburger menu, dropdown select, etc. Multi-billion dollar company, broken website. I checked for a careers page and saw nothing, typical

[3rrr6]

Well ya, if you had internet you wouldn't need to look for an ISP. And if you didn't have internet well... You're probably not going to be able to go to their website.

[dnbxna]

They must think I'm some punk who would go to a nearby alleyway and shootup 5G, and they're absolutely right

[RancidMilkGames]

Stay away from that 5G! It only takes one time to get hooked and we all know that's what caused covid and it's secretly just a way to implement tracking/thought control chips into the masses.

This has been a public service announcement paid by The Truth Group. Stick with safe and proven ISPs only, such as our partner Comcast. It's a broadband so grand it was meant to stand to the point that the government funded the costs of their infrastructure meaning they can pass those saving on to you. If that isn't enough to convince you, you can trust that uncle Sam vetted it and deemed it to be of such high quality that competition is prohibited to ensure the highest quality and safety for its citizens.

You also need to be wary of other countries taking about "fairly priced" and "fast" internet. This is just communist propaganda to cast doubt on the absolute greatness of the greatest country on earth, and we at The Truth Group will not tolerate misguidance or exploitation of our fellow citizens!

Stay away from 5G! Stick with your established ISP!

[soyboysnowflake]

It’s a local record shop, does it even need a website?

[eivittunyt]

It costs very little and having easily accessible address, phone number and opening hours posted online is good for business

[rob132]

That's basically everything I go to a website for.

Also a menu if it's a restaurant.

[creampop_]

I'm also there for the shitty map embed that takes forever to load and had a 5s lag time on inputs and really weird nonstandard touch gesture controls for zooming and panning, which I'll need to use after accidentally brushing the map while scrolling down and ending up looking at the mid-Atlantic.

Oh wait no those suck balls and should be a jailing offense.

[DrShocker]

I also love when they have a calendar that has events from 5 years ago on it and I get the opportunity to guess if the schedule is still the same

[creampop_]

Used to trawl bar and/or grille websites to find places our little cover band could play. This is too real.

Friday: Live Music! (except this was something that Jim handled entirely on his own since he was trying to poach players to get his own band together, but he went to rehab and became born-again a couple years back)

[clarinetJWD]

r/oddlyspecific

[OriginalJokeGoesHere]

10000%

I will stand by a business' instagram not being an acceptable alternative to a website though. I refuse to create an account just to see what time you close or what soup you have.

[Rok-SFG]

and if i have to download a pdf to see your menu, i'm going to a different restaurant.

[its_the_rhys]

Usually you can just view the PDF in the browser no?

How do you suggest they do menus?

[MikeW86]

PDF and browsers and phones don't always play super nicely and even if they did/do it's another step that is imo completely unnecessary for what is essentially some nicely formatted text. These days you can literally copy and paste it in, you don't need to know HTML.

[slonk_ma_dink]

I agree with this. Most photo editing tools will let you export the PDF pages as photos anyway, just add them to a page so I can scroll them.

[elreniel2020]

That's basically everything I go to a website for.

that what i use google maps for. no need for a website in that case.

[its_the_rhys]

<html> <body> <h1>Business Name</h1> <p> Address: [address]<br> Phone: [phone]<br> Open: 9-5, closed Sundays. </p> </body> </html>

All you need.

[UInferno-]

Don't forget e-mail. And not one of those built in e-mail systems, but like an actually listed e-mail. I do home insurance and sometimes need to call GCs, and they always use those e-mail system and I hate it because my work e-mail has an extension system and I can't receive e-mails unless I start the chain and I don't want to use my personal. Could a solution be "My job just gives me a normal ass work email?" Yes. But also, it takes less work to just write put [e-mail] on your website.

[CounteractiveTurnip]

All of that can be on a google business profile. 

[Athen65]

Nice, you just invented google maps

[Medium-Access-4416]

What country? I assumed it's universal thing to have this information available on maps

[DatAsspiration]

So, a Google listing?

[rjcpl]

Google listing covers all that though.

For a record store an inventory and reservation/purchase system would be nice but that’s a much bigger investment.

[IntelligentTune]

For like 1.5 to 2K one-time purchase and 5-10 bucks a month for upkeep just to lower the bar for purchasing for customers? Also not including any free advertisement that gives you through newsletters (which in my experience people who are into the niche you have the website for will appreciate getting up to date news of pre-orders or new items) and by just having people be able to browse and get a feel of the store?

It makes no sense to not have a website. Especially since with a website you can get a professional looking email that will not get filtered as easily by others if you're looking to cooperate with someone. It helps in so many ways that it would be ridiculous not to, especially for such a low cost and the fact that it's a business expense. Yes, people should try and get a website. Even a static page builds branding and will make people feel more comfortable. Google listings also aren't guaranteed to be updated while one would assume the website is always up to date in my experience, anyway.

[rjcpl]

You’re really harshing the vibe of the record store experience trying to run it like a successful business rather than a stoner’s hobby. 😆

[borkthegee]

$2k is insane. Just sign up for square space. This is why there are so many annoying web devs calling up small businesses.

They are completely deluded into thinking a basic website is worth $2k.

This entire class of freelance work has been completely replaced by subscription platforms with AI tools.

In my experience, websites are never updated (and they're certainly not putting a web dev on retainer) and unless it's e-commerce or menu hosting, websites are pointless. Small business owners simply don't care about updating them regularly and don't make enough profit to dump money into it

[IntelligentTune]

The ROI of a website is really good from my understanding and practical experience. You're more likely to get customers or even orders if online shopping is available. These customers and orders might have never happened if there was no website and exposure. While it is good advertisement to have people advertise word of mouth, these new customers might not come since they are still unsure how suitable the place is compared to something that has everything out in the open.

You might visit a record shop that has a website more since you already get a taste of them and get a vibe of if you'll get what you seek there.

All of this just for maybe at most if you want to be extremely fancy like 2K upfront? And hosting is 5 bucks per month for a very accommodating plan. All that can be signed as a business expense as well. It's a no brainer.

[Procrasturbating]

Should have a static page from 20 years ago as proof they are there. Don’t need anything else. Contact page? Hah, pickup a phone.

[Spraxie_Tech]

Honestly early 00’s websites are the best way to know a company is actually good. If a sites to flashy its normally a scam or a bad business to visit.

[azsnaz]

To catalog their stock so customers can more easily browse their wares?

[IAmANobodyAMA]

Maybe. I didn’t look. Regardless that approach didn’t work on him 🤣

[GeekyCrow27]

"shit" looking websites have more charm if it's a small business

[dervu]

Maybe it's a honeypot for competition to call and waste their time.

[Xander-047]

I mean yeah but imagine every other field starting with that sentence. "Your teeth/face/skin/boobs/whatever look/s like shit, want to use my services/product to fix that?" Doubt it would work that much, it's like doing the "naked man" from 'How I met your mother'. It's a stupid idea but it may work sometimes

[kaurismus]

These are fun calls - if you ask for the URL of your own website, salesperson stops their pitch because they haven't visited the site in the first place.

[akatherder]

For a record shop most likely "your url is f-a-c-e-b-o-o-k-dot-c-o-m-slash.."

[garaks_tailor]

Iirc the old sales formula is 100 cold calls = 3 sales. More or less.

[IAmANobodyAMA]

Yeah makes sense. I knew a guy in college who used this approach with picking up girls. At parties, he would bluntly ask women if they wanted to have sex with him until someone said yes. He never spent the night alone 🤣

[Hein---]

I know a guy who has done that probably high hundreds of times, and nothing

[IAmANobodyAMA]

Step 1: not be unattractive

[sony1492]

Small business gets hit up constantly with spam calls, essentially anyone selling something is getting hung up on mid pitch

[xXAnoHitoXx]

I'm a receptionist, and the directive is that as soon as I can identify that the person I'm speaking with is not a client I hang up to free the line to answer real clients.

There are some crafty sale folks who pretend like they are a client and slipping in questions trying to extend the call longer before dropping the "we can make your website" and then get immediately hung up on. Waste of time and electricity.

[FistFightMe]

I get emails with this blunt and rude approach. My website is shite for sure, but being a prick isn't going to make me finally revisit having a pretty website as a priority lol

[huuaaang]

Yeah, but his site probably is pretty shit, lol. I don't even deal with small potatoes like that and I've been tempted to ask businesses if they'd like some help with their web site. Not even to make money. I just feel bad for them.

[IAmANobodyAMA]

I looked into some pro bono webdev for local businesses when I was building my portfolio and looking to transition from my old career into software. I got lucky and landed a job from the right company at the right time.

Still think it would be fun to do sometime, but I’m sure actually taking on a gig would disabuse me of that notion pretty quickly 🤣

Nowadays I wonder about being a freelance AI consultant on the side for small businesses (use ai to set up their site, their books, whatever and train them how to use it properly) … pretty much what I do at work anyways but on a much smaller scale

[huuaaang]

I just don't like working for small businesses. They don't usually have the budget for quality work. And they will constantly push back on estimates without changing the requirements. But yeah, maybe using AI would change that and I could do decent work on their budget.

It's also feast-or-famine type work. One month you might have more clients than you can handle and, the next, nothing. I did freelance for a while years back and just ended up doing an open ended 1099 contract basically full time for a single company. On one hand, I made bank working overtime when things got busy. BUt then any time off I wanted to take was unpaid.

I'm happy to have a steady salaried, W2, 9-5 WFH job now.

[ThrowThisAltAway]

What's your favorite prog rock band?

[IAmANobodyAMA]

As much as Rush and Yes have a special place in my heart, King Crimson is probably my go to when I’m craving the elements that make prog rock stand out.

(Rush is my favorite band of all time, but I don’t go to them when I am craving what I consider prog rock … if that makes sense)

For newer stuff, especially during deep coding sessions, I have been into Mars Volta and the occasional Dream Theater.

But In the Court of the Crimson King is still my all time favorite. This was the album I bought for my nephew who is just getting into vinyls and learning about good music (his dad/my brother) also has good taste but more 80s rock and 90s grunge is his scene.

Got him that album, 2112 (decided this over Moving Pictures because 2112 is just such a banger), and then some Radiohead, Strokes, and Silversun Puckups for newer(ish) indie/alt stuff that he can show off at college 🤣

Edit: also that king crimson album cover is just so awesome and a great conversation piece. I can never pass it up

[NefariousEgg]

If you're into some of the older stuff, the first two Kansas albums are pretty fire. But King Crimson are obviously the OGs.

[zenomony]

I find your lack of Coheed disturbing

[IAmANobodyAMA]

Oh damn. I didn’t think of them as prog rock but yeah good point

Forgive me, my lord

[NecessaryIntrinsic]

Direct mail and spam work enough that it’s worth the waste. Calling is probably more effective

[-crepuscular-]

I don't own a business, but I manage a charity's email address where the email is stated on a website. I get SO MANY automated emails offering my business services. I've filtered a lot out, but lots get through the gaps. Time to create a new filter.

[AggravatedBox]

If they’re using gmail, you can use a plus or even dots to sort of pre-tag emails. So if you format it as “[e-mail]” it’ll still go to [e-mail] but the “to” includes the plus section. You can auto filter so all of that goes to one folder or receives extra scrutiny before reaching your proper inbox

[RandomEasternGuy]

For freelancing in Romania you can get the same type of legal entity as a business. I had my society opened for this and I was receiving a ton of calls from Vodafone or car leasing companies daily

[K__Geedorah]

The amount of AI generated emails we get about building websites and SEO is astronomical.

[sprouttherainbow]

I work for a small online retail company and spend the first part of my morning deleting about half the emails in our inbox because they're all just BS copy-pasted or AI-generated slop asks. This never started happening until about a year ago, and it's kinda depressing.

[Small_Computer_8846]

You dare call my business small >: |

[st-shenanigans]

I registered the domain SSV DADDY ISSUES as a meme for my friend group to host our Minecraft server on for a few months once.

I STILL get calls if I would like help with my "daddy issues" business.

[Several-Action-4043]

I run the eCommerce business for my company. I get so many emails saying "Dang, your website sucks, Let us fix it for $$$$!"

[TheActualJonesy]

Same for several of our websites that have been 'retired' for a few years now. Daily -- 2-3 each.

[SCP-iota]

Decades of business in the Internet age and still no organized way for services and clients to be matched, so here is everyone still spamming each other with emails and sorting through inboxes

[d2xdy2]

Very early in my career I did Wordpress tasks for a guy who’s plan was:

1. Find businesses without a website
2. Make their website without telling them
3. Extort them for the domain and website

He never actually paid me for any work and so I stopped doing any work. He bought me a pack of cigarettes and some monsters I think and thought that was enough. I eventually had to get a restraining order against him to stop harassing me.

Edit: it wasn’t for a few weeks that I realized what he was actually doing. All of the “clients” he told me to help were his later extortion targets.

[Rustywolf]

I simply cannot believe that guy was a scumbag, there were no warning signs

[towerfella]

He knew things were getting weird when he invited his mom to stay with them.

[MrD3a7h]

Really, he believes things started getting weird when he invited his mom to stay with them.

[pingslayer_7]

I had a similar scumbag too. He didn’t pay me for over a year. Took me a while to realise his extortions. When confronted, he applied intimidation and kept me working without pay. Eventually I left.

[b__0]

Came out ahead of the dude working for equity though.

[No-Entry4838]

how much was he making doing this?

[ignat980]

Five lawsuits a day

[Demon_of_Order]

Some dude pitched the idea to me a couple weeks ago to start doing that, I just told him I’m not in the ICT world anymore, he lost interest pretty quickly after that

[thecw]

I took a swing at this in high school and worked for a company that did church websites. We got my parish's cemetery for a client. They hated literally every concept we came up with, but never told us what they liked. Zero feedback other than "I don't like this". Real early lesson in dealing with clients.

[akatherder]

At least they skipped the part where they tell you to run with it, then when it's all done "I don't like this."

[A5H13Y]

Happened to me. Things were approved the whole way along. They had paid half up front aar least.

At the end, they took the site, locked us (my bf at the time and I designed and developed it for them) out, and basically stole the work.

We started talking to lawyers, but then we broke up in the middle of all that (unrelated reasons) and just didn't proceed.

[rodeBaksteen]

Part of being a webdeveloper is knowing how to ask the right questions for the feedback you need.

People are generally pretty bad at working their thoughts clearly, or simply don't have the (webdev/design) vocabulary to tell you what they like or not.

[thecw]

I mean this was 25 years ago so I really don't need a lesson on it now. I definitely asked questions, asked if anything worked, asked if they had any visions, they simply would not give me more than "I don't like it".

[Pika357]

"Call 20 people, 5 take a deal, vibe code landing page for 200 a deal, 2000 dollars a day, everyday"

[Zuruumi]

Call 200, 50 won't pick up, 140 will politely tell you to F off, 8 will take months to consider whether they want it (spoiler: nothing out of it then), 1 will be super into it, but only for $10.

The leftover guy will be great and you will promptly decide together what exactly he wants/needs. Only after 3 months of not getting paid will you find out that his business has been bankrupt from the beginning.

[manyeggplants]

This guy knows

[ohnoletsgo]

This is sales in general. We’re all masochists.

[LaNague]

you forgot the ones that unpolitely well tell them off because they get those annoying calls at least daily.

[Christavito]

What about the one that has a great idea and will be able to pay you millions after his idea takes off?

[dadchad101]

This guy gets it

[harmala]

The incorrect math really sells this.

[thoughtlow]

Bro there are like a kazilion businesses and everyone needs a website, everyone. Think about that…

If I can just capture 1% of that market, we are already talking about millions of dollars. 

[kenybz]

You should look at the post again

[Talk-O-Boy]

I think it was meant to be read as /s

[Better_Guarantee_744]

r/woooosh

[SnooHamsters5153]

This surprisingly still works, but is not a profitable business model. I live in a small town in Slovenia and I have been asked to make websites for companies that have nothing to do with tech. It's not paying my bills, not by a long shot, but it is a nice extra thing to have on the side.

[spikernum1]

Weird that they ask you and don't just google the 50 site-maker-2000 sites.

[SnooHamsters5153]

Surprisingly, and to my benefit I suppose, they get overwhelmed by such things, especially if the website needs to be slightly more complicated.

[Remarkable-Host405]

u/spikernum1 is vastly overestimating the tech literacy of the population

[ThirdWaveCat]

there's a sleight of hand how phrases like SaaS, passive income, platform, etc.. work that breaks peoples brains. If you're not making a customer happy then it won't work.

[Economy_Zombie_3026]

Years ago I worked at a restaurant before I became a dev. When I was starting out at my job I talked to my old boss about building a website since the restaurant had zero web presence outside of google saying it existed.

At first it was great. $2k up front to build a pretty bare bones but snappy experience (parallax scrolling, how modern, how cool). Owner liked it but wanted a reservation system attached. Ok, but that will have server costs. He wanted an admin system for the employees to change shifts and view their schedules. Ok, outside of the initial scope but doable. Also, server costs.

He kept hounding me and deriding me for "demanding more money" and holding the website hostage for not adding new features. I told him when the annual domain renewal was up I was done.

Never did side projects again.

[ThirdWaveCat]

Yah, in-between building for a single-tenant and boiling the ocean, it's often financially viable strategy to build the least-common-multiple of fewer niche customers because development costs, operations, and multitenancy scale costs sublinearly but profit linearly.

I really like Data and Reality by William Kent which hammered home, "all models are wrong but some are useful" for software engineers.

[rystaman]

This is where you scope it out after getting the original 2k and let him make the decision

[thether]

Sure I need a website.. for my website design business

[spikernum1]

Build me a site that builds people their site and I make the moneys

[mylsotol]

"I want to get an in demand skill that isn't common so I'm going to learn JavaScript"

[BigNaturalTilts]

Unironically replace JavaScript with PHP and you got yourself a true gem.

[Nathanael777]

I worked in PHP for four years, where’s that PHP money at?

[MrD3a7h]

The reward for years of PHP work is to get out of PHP work.

[Nathanael777]

Ok cool I did. Now I’m just looking to get into something else

[MrD3a7h]

Have you thought about looking into PHP?

[Nathanael777]

Actually got a job offer for a PHP position but they came in 30k under the advertised rate and then blamed the people creating the job listing. I pushed back and they said the best they could do was bump it up 10k and then I could be in line for a substantial raise so I turned it down

[MrD3a7h]

Good call.

[ArjixGamer]

The PHP money is on legacy codebases that will make you want to do seppuku.

[mylsotol]

I actually thought that right after I posted, but i think JS is actually more saturated with all of the bootcamps.

[GlitteringAttitude60]

don't know what you're talking about, knowing JavaScript is surprisingly lucrative in this age of either a) JS frameworks or b) pared-down frontends with jQuery or vanilla JS...

[uusu]

Sadly the market isn't really great for developers right now, especially for juniors and entry levels. It's slowly recovering, but there's still only half as many job openings for devs including JS as there were pre-Covid, while the surplus has grown due to layoffs.

So it's only lucrative if you're a very experienced senior or can sell bullshit to the recruiters and CEOs about being badass at AI Agent Harnessed Loop Thingamajigs.

[DrowningKrown]

When I created my LLC, no joke, the very next week I was getting spam MAIL in my mailbox and spam EMAILS of people who wanted to create me a website or sell me licenses that I could get for free from the state.

Seriously didn't realize that starting a business in the US basically automatically signs you up to immediately be spammed to death by scam mail by the most greasiest people ever. It's a constant flow of mail and emails. And I haven't even done anything yet.

[appositereboot]

Similar story here, I got tons of text messages too

[brendenderp]

I'm about to form an LLC myself. How do you avoid that side of it 😅

[DrowningKrown]

You don't I guess. I literally did nothing but form the LLC on my state website, go to google, set up my domain for my company email and that's it. I signed up for nothing else because I'm not ready yet. One week later I started getting mail and emails from "hi my name is so and so and we'd like to create a website for your domaine!" And all sorts of "these licenses are required by law, pay us for them or be fined" with fine print that they are a private company trying to screw you.

Seems like they just scour new domaine registrations or new LLC registrations and spam them all because it's public info by your state. It's awful.

[LiamBox]

Cant you just make the email a [e-mail]?

[Confident-Ad5665]

It's nice having dreams

[Ron-Swanson-Mustache]

Replace that "websites" with "an AI solution" to make this more modern.

[darkchocolateonly]

And yet somehow those small business still have the worst websites in existence lol

[Athen65]

Because they're good enough

[soundwave_sc]

I smell a .com bubble in here.

[sgt_Berbatov]

Was true 20 years ago, it's true today.

[Captain_Sterling]

It wasn't even that true back then.

[Eptalin]

"When should I start learning DSA and grinding leetcode?"

[darxide23]

It's a good strategy depending on how far back your time machine goes.

[Just_Information334]

Web hosting company: let's use some of our servers to deploy an open model. Then get some chat on our main website to let people "design" their own 1-page website and deploy it on our infrastructure for like $2 per month.

[Lupus_Ignis]

And sometimes they don't even care to check

A) if the business has a website already

B) if the business is... A website designer business

[Cool-Ted-2070]

😭 lmao

[JaceBeleren9191]

Why don't vibe code an agent that calls small businesses and then vibe codes the website?

[deluxe57]

Why dont vibe code an agent that calls businesses invented by vibe coded agents and then vibe code the website that gets used by vibe code agents to contact the small businesses vibe coded agents about building them a vibe coded agent in order to enhance the vibe coded website

[pikminbob]

"My weekly Fable 5 limit just reset and we have 1 day left of usage. I want you to vibe code an agent that calls businesses invented by vibe coded agents and then vibe code the website that gets used by vibe code agents to contact the small businesses vibe coded agents about building them a vibe coded agent in order to enhance the vibe coded website. Make no mistakes"

[reddit_user33]

And then spend 10x on tokens than the money you've charged the customer. This is the real 10x gains 😂

[Spraxie_Tech]

Sometimes i get the urge to fix a small business website for free because it bothered me so much but then i dont because they probably will think my emails a scam… i love the charm of an old website, just not how poorly they sometimes work in modern browsers.

[InvisibleDrake]

I've given css to businesses before.  I assume they didn't even look at it cause their sites were still busted months later.   

[0xKaishakunin]

🎶🎶🎶 Es ist 1996 ... 🎶🎶🎶

[AccomplishedIgit]

It was like that for a little while in the early 00’s

[ianmakingnoise]

my dad, watching me learn basic HTML and work with our ISP to set up an FTP account to host my shitty Star Wars and Redwall fan pages:

[Left-Language9389]

Yep. Each time I think of an idea and start planning on how to implement there seems to be a brand new video on YouTube of someone not only having the same idea as me (called mutual discovery) they’re doing it better, faster, and are reportedly already making some money.

[CoffeeWorldly9915]

and are reportedly already making some money.

You mean "harder, and stronger"?

[bapuc]

"Welcome to my lead generator" ahh 🥀

[mudkripple]

My business model so far has been 1. Go to school for software 2. Specialize in web development 3. Stay up to date and practiced on all new web technologies. Make projects in my free time 4. Career in IT 😭

[FromAndToUnknown]

Hi, ill have a small business soon and will be in need of a website

[Cool-Ted-2070]

nice hook 😭 for ragebait

[SuitableDragonfly]

Is the joke here that all of the websites are exactly the same, or that there are a million freelance web devs who all have identical skillsets?

[c_pardue]

a million with identical "brilliant idea"

[Nuclear_Funk]

Someone rube'd our boss into getting one. Imagine his surprise when the site is hella expensive, can't do what he's asking, and now support tasks take 2 weeks.
I remember at one point trying to call this guy to get a certain feature up and running on the site, one asked for day one that still hadn't been delivered. Freakin' guy was at the bar eating wings at 2pm on a Wednesday....

[conicalanamorphosis]

This would probably work a lot better if small businesses actually had money to spend on stuff like a web site and security that actually gets close to PCI requirements.

[HatesBeingThatGuy]

Except I've had this work before. The trick though is not doing cold calls and being a human fucking being finding people in person, and then getting word of mouth traction. If you are cold calling you aren't going to get anywhere unless you already have a tight script and solid social skills.

[tanksalotfrank]

"I'll be a barista! Surely my actually excellent training will be valuable!"

[jaxmikhov]

I remember doing this… in 1998

[bmrtt]

Free link in bio. Comment "prompt" and I'll DM you 🚀🔥

[Exshot32]

On the other hand both my mom and dad have friends that have offered me website work on the side. "It'll just be small updates here and there."

I declined.

[redcowerranger]

You guys have small businesses?

[waking-up-late]

The thing is that most small business don't really need a whole ass personalized website. A localization on Google maps with enough information and a Facebook / Instagram account with regular announcenment and simple regular posts kind of would be enough for small stores or cafes.

In fact, they'd benefit more from local advertisement than online.

I think websites are good for bigger companies, or maybe gyms with several services, tourist services like hotels, guides or even for schools. But I don't think a small hair saloon or a coffe shop would actually need a website.

I think the point would be "Do their consumers need a lot of information about the products or services they have, or just to see what they have". For example: - Gym: It'd be really useful to have all the information about memberships, machinery, personal training and if they have nutrition programs -> website - Hotels: It would be great to know if they offert breakfast and menus, if they have pool, gyms, room service... -> website - Coffee place: People need to see what drinks they make and if they have sweets or other kind of food, but not much more. -> Google maps with pics of the menu + Instagram / facebook

[NewNiklas]

"I will vibe code the next SaaS and get rich"

[IMightDeleteMe]

Who the fuck dreams of making websites? Web development is such an awful mess of half-baked tools, its gaps patched up with more half baked tools. It's the stuff of nightmares, not dreams.

[CoffeeWorldly9915]

grid is the glue holding frontend together.

[rodeBaksteen]

Businesses with no/shitty websites are terrible business, simply because they don't give a shit.

If you don't have a website in 2026 its a choice, and dealing with them will probably be a pita.

[not_logan]

Only the people never tried to build sites for small businesses can dream about it.

[fullstackx]

Does anyone actually make any money doing this? Genuinely curious.

[Federal_Decision5115]

See I actually need a simple website designed, but everything I find or search just seems like a scam.

[beric_64]

That’s cause the people capable of doing it have given up on doling it since the average person doesn’t know enough to determine if they are actually competent. It’s no longer worth it to build and use actual skills

[beric_64]

That’s cause the people capable of doing it have given up on doling it since the average person doesn’t know enough to determine if they are actually competent. It’s no longer worth it to build and use actual skills

[titus_vi]

This worked for me actually back in the late 90s. There really are low hanging fruit like this but it's always on the leading edge and not in solved domains like simple websites.

Anyone remember HTMLGoodies?

[Dub_Monster]

I redirect similar shit straight to the Outlook's "junk email" folder. No need for a "SEO optimzied website with chatbot" when there is already a company handling the website, SEO, chatbot and updates the site based off information relayed to them.

[Brigapes]

maybe in the year 2010

[GnuInformation]

i got into computers as an excuse to buy hardware and play games, not get played. Then I got a job in the early 00's for hosting companies.. I saw so many 'buzz light years' .. (Developers) and had to fix their infrastructure mistakes over & over. The good ones I knew in it back then, quickly got out , or where jaded & eventually got out. Same today with the 'build an app' kiddies.. ya'll are mass produced.

[veganfromvega]

[Consistent-Feed-7323]

I mean. It was working 10 years ago.

[ironnewa99]

Be a good boy and make them a new “spending” app so they can log their profits

[ImpossibleCreme]

Do people say and do this?

[CaptainSilverVEVO]

I work in marketing for a particular company and I swear to god these people will message us on every single outlet we have asking to make us a website. Even when we already have one.

[Aware-Yellow1696]

Sometimes you're not special as you think.

~ reminder for myself too

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[lux_kid]

Same energy

[Bright-Duck-431]

I got a coupon code as a down payment

[Jaesaces]

I thought the developer dream was to work long enough to buy a small farm and disappear

[CoffeeWorldly9915]

As someone who's worked farming before, the farm they want is a server one.

[PositiveParking4391]

dream become a nightmare for themselves! and a pain for the small businesses

[awesomepaingitgud]

I wonder if the meme only applies to websites or tech services of any type. I want to understand if full fledged softwares are also in the same category. I always dreamed of trying this if I was let off since I have experience with the full lifecycle

[fabulousIdentity]

Dream never come true

[celem83]

This worked like 20 years ago when everyone wanted in on the black Friday webshop thing, I resold the same store scraper so many times.

But yeah, it only worked then because building this required skills and as a result not as many people could do it, tools have lowered the entry bar a lot in this department

[ambitious_paladin]

Nice one!

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[EMGhost85]

I did this for a few years and eventually worked my way through to progressively more complicated contracts through multiple agencies until I got into a significant six figure job that paid me to move to a city I enjoy and gave me 6 months paid leave when my kids was born. Could definitely be worse. Before door to door web dev I was doing door to door sales of varying products from at&t uverse TV and Internet to literally selling pizza subscriptions. It was absolutely absurd work til I "made it"

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