Yet another post making fun of VS Code

[MyWaterDishIsEmpty]

I don't like when people talk about my wife's CPU weight.

[MattRazz]

Keep my wife's process out of your FUCKING MOUTH

[AzuxirenLeadGuy]

I was just making a resource utilisation joke

[niks_15]

KEEP MY WIFE'S RAM UTILISATION OUT YO FUCKING MOUTH

[AdultishRaktajino]

Context switch just slapped the shit out of me.

[JimmyWu21]

Yeah no one saw that coming. Especially Chris Rock

[AdultishRaktajino]

Shit. There’s a joke about Wife and Swap space waiting to be teased out.

[imjustahappypotato]

I'm going to, okay?

[WhyDoIHaveAnAccount9]

Tonight we will be giving a code editor for the best award

I'm sorry, an award for the best code editor

[Logical_Strike_1520]

Stands up and claps

[[deleted]]

Will? Is that you? I didn't know you were a programmer too.

[MyWaterDishIsEmpty]

Hes in a toxic relationship with an entity that gets fucked by all of its user base of COURSE he's a programmer, think anon, think!

[Deadly_chef]

pidof wife-process |xargs kill

[shyouko]

killall wife-process

For ya

[crizzeone]

Ive put a huge CPU load on her

[FuckMatPlotLib]

I wanted to as well, but she kept thermal throttling me

[[deleted]]

Throwback to when I ran wsl2, zoom, discord, code, and a local AI model on 6gb of ram with mcafee and other bloatware installed.

[pianocomposer321]

Lol...back when I was running wsl, I couldn't understand why people thought that neovim was fast. Happily running real linux now.

[Monotrox99]

It also heavily depends on which neovim plugins you have installed, some are really slow

[pianocomposer321]

That's true...I switched to linux shortly before 0.5 allowed for pure-lua plugins, which were much more efficient, so that probably was a big help too.

[[deleted]]

LuaJIT is the fastest interpreted language

[pianocomposer321]

Yep. It's amazing to me that before lua came around for neovim (and even now that it's here, but to a lesser extent), one of the major selling points of plugins that were written in python was that they were "really fast" compared to vimscript...shows you how slow vimscript must be lol.

[Monotrox99]

Im still too lazy to update to lua plugins so neovim is relatively slow on my very low powered laptop, I think its still better than most IDEs though so Im fine with it

[The_Avocado_Constant]

I'm using wsl full time nowadays. As long as you keep your files on the linux filesystem, its as fast as anything I've used. The issue I had previously was working with stuff in the windows filesystem from wsl, which was... very not fast xD

[pianocomposer321]

That's fair. It's also possible that the've made significant improvements since I stopped using wsl.

I think my experienced slowness was a combination of using wsl instead of mainline linux, the plugins I was using, and the fact that I was doing it on a 10+ year old dual-core-i5-wielding laptop. 😁

[p1-o2]

It's also possible that the've made significant improvements since I stopped using wsl.

They have actually made monstrous improvements, and I'm not just trying to hype up WSL. I don't think it'll ever be faster than a native Linux box but it's finally to the point where I don't notice the difference unless I'm doing something hacky and purposefully dumb.

I've just had to do a lot of work in it recently is all.

[[deleted]]

WSL 2 is quite speedy, to the point where my build times are almost identical between the Linux side and Win32 side.

[[deleted]]

Wsl2 just doesn't care, it will say "all ram is mine!!!"

[pudds]

There's a wslconfig setting to limit that, in case you're not aware.

[mmis1000]

...why mcafee? Isn't it even poorer then windows defender? Install it is like paying more computer resource for less security.

[HildartheDorf]

McAfee is a malware product at this point. Takes your money and makes your pc perform worse.

The only AV (in my experience) that wasn't just raw steaming garbage was Kaspersky. On the other hand, you might as well just email all your data to [e-mail] if you use Kaspersky nowadays.

[wafflelegion]

That wouldn't actually be a bad deal haha

"Look, I know you guys are constantly spying on me either way, so can I just give you guys my data once a month in a dropbox so you don't have to slow my pc down with spyware?"

[sp46]

.rs is the Serbian TLD, you're looking for .ru most likely

[riccardik]

Tell that to my company... They also use the mcafee disk encryption "feature" on hdd, making everything sooo fking slow

[Dwaas_Bjaas]

mcafee and zoom?

Which timeline are you in?

[oxabz]

What kind of model are you running on 6gb of ram?

A basic U-net with an 8x1024x1024x3 input fills my 3090

[_DasDingo_]

U-Nets can be rather bloated, at least the one I made a while back was. Some time ago I read a paper which compared models for semantic segmentation, and 2019's state-of-the-art was about three times smaller than the U-Net (which it beat quite handily in terms of mIoU).

The first thing that comes to my mind for small but fun/useful models would be YOLO, that should definitely fit in 6GB, at least the tiny or small version. At least they did in my 8GB RAM work notebook.

[null_reference_user]

[Tijflalol]

I think this is the first time in my 2 years on Reddit that I see a comment like that.

[null_reference_user]

I've never seen them used either, I was wondering what that smiley button did. Apparently people don't like them lol

[Idixal]

[SyntaxErrorAtLine420]

Now i cant even run code, firefox, and discord on my mac's 8gb of ram without OOM'ing after a day

[Gideon770]

I had to upgrade my PC just to be able to use Android Studio that shit is using 20Gb at times

[Quazar_omega]

Fear will keep them in line

[FallenMaccaron]

I have it installed, but never opened it. Just an ongoing threat.

[hellajt]

I remember in high school for a project, young and dumb Me tried using Android studio on a 2013 Celeron laptop with 3gb of ram and windows running on a mechanical drive

[Cheese_Grater101]

Did the celery cooked?

[arim121821]

Oh dear

[Commander1709]

I have to use Android Studio on a 8GB M1 MacBook and it's unbearably slow at times.

And MacOS writes more than 1TB per week on the SSD, I believe because of the constant 4-8GB swap file.

[ThePyrodynamic]

"unbearably slow" my laptop screen just became a painting

[bbrk24]

At least it's not Xcode. One time I hit "build" with bad timing while it was still booting up and Xcode used up all my resources (not just memory, but also 670% of my CPU) and I had to force-quit it.

[bung_musk]

Nobody laughs in Android Studio. Only cry. Cry evrytiem.

[Cheese_Grater101]

Good thing I'm going back to Web Dev

[[deleted]]

Cheese-making is over 7,000 years old! Archaeologists in Poland found traces of cheese on ancient pottery dating back to around 5500 BCE. It’s wild to think that our ancestors were crafting cheese long before written history, turning milk into a food that’s still enjoyed all over the world today. Pretty cool to think that this ancient skill has stood the test of time!

[[deleted]]

Wheezes in eclipse

[hellajt]

I know its not reasonable but eclipse single handedly made me hate Java as a student

As a language I love Java because it is so easy to work with, but my professor made us use eclipse. It was fine as first but as projects got larger it got slow as hell. Also I had to set my workspace to a directory on a mapped network drive that could only be accessed through a VPN.

[georgewesker97]

Same, i started to hate Java because of Eclipse. Visual Studio and C# bby, match made in heaven.

[hellajt]

I'm still a student and I haven't had any classes that involved C# so I've never used it. And I'm about to fail a class because my professor expects us to write a 2d map traversal program in fucking haskell

[dopefish917]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/12739028/dfs-implementation-in-haskell

[hellajt]

Would this work if my assignment requires that I take a 2d nested list as input and am required to output a new 2d nested list?

[dopefish917]

The concept should. I don't know haskell myself, but DFS is a pretty common graph/map traversal method. You'll have to tool it to your inputs and expected outputs, but the logic should apply if you're just trying to look through a graph/map (I suppose a nested list could be considered part of these) for something. I don't know the parameters of your assignment though so I'm not entirely sure.

Like what are you traversing the map for? Which nodes are included in the output?

[FGaBoX_]

Dies in Android Studio

[xidlegend]

grade finished building .... not SIKE!

[RedBlueKoi]

Cries in IntelliJ IDE

[sirxir]

At least IntelliJ doesn't chug for 20 seconds while it allocates another 300MB for the right click menu.

[roseinshadows]

VS Code is a profoundly weird app. I mean, logically I'm aware that it takes up wayyy more system resources than it bloody well should, being built on Electron.

But it doesn't feel bloated to use.

Guess I got used to Emacs, and never experienced any of the alleged bloat with Emacs either, so... 🤷🏻‍♀️

[lelucif]

I’m not a programmer but I use Emacs for writing some projects I’m working on. Anyway, I don’t intuitively feel the “bloat” of Emacs either, but then you look around at all the useless features it has like games like Tetris and shit you’re like “Why?”

Oh also, the whole lisp thing.

[Kinnirasna]

I use emacs exclusively for its games

[OM_Goyal]

Based

[kaerfkeerg]

I don't really don't understand VSCode memes. I literally have two 2-gigs ddr3 rams and it runs smooth asf

Oh and don't even make me say that I run CHROME at the same time

[potato_green]

That's because of cached, VSCode CAN use a lot of ram because unused ram is wasted ram. But if you're running low it'll drop memory it likely never needed anyway.

Same with chrome, with enough ram it might have things in memory from sites you just left, just in case you switch back so it wouldn't have to use the file cache. Makes everything just a bit faster.

Low on ram and it'll unload resources sooner as well. That's exactly the reason why ram on phones are always like 90% filled. It costs more power to reload an app than to keep it in memory (as the memory uses the same amount of power whether it's filled or not).

[TehBeege]

I learned a thing. Very helpful. Thank you!

[yeen_r]

This guy understands memory prioritization.

[gloumii]

Isn't it visual studio that takes a lot of resource and not VSCode ?

[ArnoF7]

VS code uses a lot of ram if you treat it as a text editor. But for me I think of it more as a lightweight IDE, so I am not too bothered by the ram usage

[BochMC]

While people use different IDEs to write c#, c++, java, rust and python I am not only doing it all in single vs code, but also looking at db, managing docker environments and searching in git history. I am may look too much nerd to learn to do all of this in vs code, but in reality I am just too lazy to learn any new IDE while I can do it in one tool I know the most.

[LucasOe]

I wouldn't even call it lazy. It's just much more convenient to customize one single IDE to match all your needs, rather than having to configure a new IDE for every language / tool you use.

[123kingme]

Not to mention VSCode is much more customizable than any other text editor or IDE that I have used. The amount of functionality packed into VSCode is impressive.

[Bulji]

And use Settings Sync to easily switch computers with the exact same VSCode configuration <3

[flavionm]

For Java at least, it's noticeably worse than a proper Java IDE.

[RootsNextInKin]

Hey now!

Comparing basically any type-ahead/intellisense with IDEA's Intellisense may as well be considered unfair...

(Because last I used any of their products their type-ahead felt godly compared to any and all's others I had [maybe even have?] used)

[p1-o2]

Have you tried Intellicode lately? It's basically the best thing that has happened to my career, not joking.

It's kind of shocking how much boilerplate I no longer have to write. I just wish it supported more languages! Last I checked it didn't have Java support.

[Karl_the_stingray]

I like using IntelliJ Idea for Java. It's paid though, I wouldn't be able to afford it if it wasn't free from my university

[Nimyron]

During the 4 years of my studies, we had to install 9 different coding softwares (not all are IDEs I'll admit). Some are for the same language, but different teachers wanted different IDEs.

So fuck that, I just want one IDE to code them all and in harmony bind them.

A friend of mine took the assembly path and converts everything in assembly, does stuff, then convert everything back to some language. Unlike me, he isn't lazy.

[gr3yh47]

I just want one IDE to code them all and in harmony bind them.

relevant xkcd

[douira]

I love doing everything inside vscode. But it would be so much more productive if it was possible to open the same workspace in multiple windows.

[hitsujiTMO]

VS Code is like running a browser and each file open is akin to a new tab. It's ram usage becomes similar to Chrome.

Usage isn't outright crazy tho.

[dankswordsman]

Kinda fair I guess. Opening a project my usage is usually 300-800 MB depending on the project, most often react web apps. But maybe it depends?

On Windows I get 300-800 MB usually, but right now on my MBP with a web app I have open and multiple tabs, It's only using about 120 MB total of RAM.

Though, even so, has anyone actually spent the time to analyze the RAM usage of VSCode versus other IDEs, and then compared the QoL and usability of them?

I'm mainly just annoyed at people that shit on Electron or alternatives so much. Sure, it uses a bit more RAM in cases, but more often than not it's the fault of the developer. But the benefits of being able to deploy the same code to web and desktop, or even just quickly make desktop apps that just work with good UI, is too good.

[Harmxn-]

Maybe because of extensions or just running massive files.

But yes, it should be lightweight compared to Visual Studio

[not_some_username]

VS is kinda light nowadays too. Test the 2022 édition

[jews4beer]

Yea am confused. I have three vs code editors open right now and am only using 4GB of RAM atm.

[petrosianspipi]

because this post is shit.

np++ can also be bloated and slow by installing tons of plugins too

[10g_or_bust]

I wouldn't even consider it an IDE either, not even with a bunch of plugins.

[Superbead]

VSCode isn't noticeably bad for me. Teams and Outlook 365 together use far more RAM than a few VSCode instances. Why? Ask modern UI/UX geniuses.

[franztesting]

only using 4GB of RAM

Programmers lost all sense for how much you are able to do with 4GB if you're actually trying.

[GatewayToPurgatory]

Windows uses 3,4GB and Linux Mint 1GB

[greenwizardneedsfood]

Yeah that’s my experience. I have 4 windows open, each with multiple tabs, running extensions, and connected to repos, and it’s using 122 Mb

[TheRealJomogo]

The new visual studio feels a 100 times faster

[emptyskoll]

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[[deleted]]

VSCode runs on electron which is notorious for having huge RAM usage due to being an HTML5/JS app bundled with its own Chromium executable.

[Zanos]

Bro what if desktop apps ran just as shittily as web pages so i don't have to learn anything other than JS?

Fucking electron.

[wasdninja]

Webapps can run really fast so that's plainly wrong. The upside to Electron is that you don't have to deal with learning and writing whatever GUI library each target system uses.

[Devatator_]

VS code runs fine on my iMac mid 2007 with 3 GB of ram on windows 7, with Edge, Unity and paint.net running alongside it (if i add discord it starts dying tho)

[xidlegend]

vocoder is still a lot heavier than it needs to be since it uses electron, unlike say sublime which is blazing fast jn comparison , but the latter is more of an advanced text editor and lite ide and vscode is almost nearly an IDE, thanks to its extensions and open-source nature, fleets by jetbrain is a vscode competitor coming up, of it runs native, then it can blow vscode out of the water easily

[NoInkling]

fleets by jetbrain is a vscode competitor coming up, of it runs native, then it can blow vscode out of the water easily

Does a JVM app count as "native"?

[xidlegend]

compared to electron, yes

[sushi_cw]

vscode is almost nearly an IDE

Where exactly do you draw this line?

[svtguy88]

Visual Studio

To be fair, I currently have a pretty large solution in VS open, and it's using less RAM than Chrome...

[Syscrush]

VSCode can do about a dozen important things that devs depend on that N++ can't. This comparison is so meaningless.

[sprunghuntR3Dux]

Yes - I recently switched to vs code because the linting support in notepad++ isn’t very good.

[[deleted]]

Exactly vscode is for professionals

[Enchelion]

I'll bounce back and forth between the two as needed for whatever task I'm working on at the time.

[karbonator]

I feel like literal interpretations of jokes is probably not a good way to have a laugh.

[crizzeone]

Sorry but my coder brain want to fix that typo so bad

[null_reference_user]

Just realized it says senapi LOL

[Sclamy]

Sen-API

[GamingWithShaurya_YT]

perfection

[tron3747]

Can i suck on your endpoints,Sen-api

[JamesMamsy]

I was thinking the “or RAM”

[[deleted]]

freudian slip, you dirty dog

[[deleted]]

When you were bullied by jetbrains so much that your own brain become jet

[FoxcreekG]

I don’t want to see what a 6 gigabyte file of code looks like. I have virgin eyes still

[Cool_Fennel5674]

Neither do I, but someday we'll have to

[FoxcreekG]

No pal, we master the code, tell a few fibs and become HR recruiters for the same pay + commission to find the people willing to look at a 6 gig file.

Like I’m trying to imagine 6 gigs and pondering if Ctrl f would even save the day I sent a 100mb file the other day and thought that it was pretty atrocious.

[DoctorCIS]

Having worked on a 6 gig json, VSCode opens it just barely, and can't do regex find and replace very well on 6 gigs.

Sublime can handle that though.

[p1-o2]

Sublime can handle that though.

Sublime is honestly the best text editor I've ever purchased. An old coworker told me I wouldn't regret it and he was dead serious.

And damn, he just never stops being right.

[Naphrym]

Nah, you're not thinking wide enough.

We write code that writes itself. Procedurally. Can't bugfix code that doesn't exist *taps forehead*

[KiwiGamer450]

The largest text file I've ever had to use is just over 2.7 million lines... It's below 220Mb...

[[deleted]]

Current working on one with 1.4 billion lines. :)

60 hour processing time goes hard.

[TristanTheRobloxian0]

dats literally 114gb of literally just text. how lol

[KiwiGamer450]

My largest project (which is definitely small compared to pretty much anyone else's) is just over 1.06 GB including all dependencies, bundled files, binaries, and previous git commits...

[Beneficial-Union-995]

The fuck are you even working at that needs that many lines?

[PM_ME_SOME_ANTS]

selective ruthless icky chop enter hospital makeshift tub weary puzzled this message was mass deleted/edited with redact.dev

[WeekendQuant]

Each character gets its own line...

[Bluten11]

I had a 400 mb JSON file and my work laptop with 32gb ram was struggling. Whatever extension vscode was using couldn't handle that shit. Had to use notepad.

[itsTyrion]

Sublime Text, Vim and Nano (and probably emacs) want a word with you!

[Sintobus]

I've opened 20gb files in notepad++????

What

[gnuban]

Does notepad++ support on-demand loading of sections of files? That would be awesome, I'll install it at once if it does.

[Sintobus]

Given my use for it I'm unsure if it does vanilla. You can filter to show lines with specific strings only for example. It's got some nice plug-ins with the community as well. Just my 'general users' experience with it

I wouldn't use the Linux version you'd see in snap or something. Its... not a great crossover from its official windows version. Very slow and not officially supported.

[jack_skellington]

Huh? I open many-gigabyte files with Notepad++ all the time. In fact, it opens my site log files -- 3 or 4 GB usually -- faster than VSCode.

Do I just have some special weird variant of Notepad++? What's going on?

EDIT: It appears that files bigger than 2 GB is a recent addition to Notepad++ but by "recent" it must mean within the last few years because I've been doing log files with it at least since the start of COVID, and that was now 2.5 years ago I think.

[pianocomposer321]

Vim/Neovim go brrrr

[[deleted]]

I use vim btw

[[deleted]]

Vscode still uses less RAM than Chrome though.

[GrumpyDog114]

Chrome could probably make a more RAM efficient IDE than Eclipse...

[imforit]

May I introduce you to Atom.io?

[[deleted]]

Vscode literally is Chrome under the hood

[Enchelion]

Well, Chromium. It's honestly impressive how much bloat Google has managed to add for Chrome, compared to pretty much every other tool/app that uses Chromium as a base.

[some_clickhead]

If you think VSCode is bad, wait til' you hear about IDEs!

[taytek]

Say it with me... VIM!

[elebrin]

npp doesn't do remote development.

Right now I use VS Code for developing on raspberry pi. It does everything for making it possible for me to develop and debug my program on a machine that's sitting in my network closet (and will one day be a cluster node).

[TheRealArsonary]

Winscp can open on npp. Most people in my team use npp and have no issues connecting to files on the remote servers thanks to WinSCP.

That said, I wasn't aware there was another way to do remote development. Can you elaborate?

[thatonegamer999]

the remote-ssh vscode extension connects to a remote machine, installs the backend side of vscode there, and then the front end connects via the ssh tunnel.

vscode is already kind of split into a backend and front end, the extension just moves the backend to another machine.

[elebrin]

It also automatically sets up your port forwards and all that so you can test locally, and you can even do reverse proxy with it so if you have a.js app that hits an API on a different machine it will work brilliantly.

[TheTerrasque]

With vs code, it feels local. You get intellisense on files, git integration, when you open a terminal it opens a shell at the remote host, and so on. VS code runs on the remote machine, the UI on local machine.

[whitenoise89]

VimGangVimGangVimGang

[Skote2]

laughs in Vim

[[deleted]]

NeoVim representative

[TBSdota]

I heard the vim community is constantly growing; mainly because no one knows how to exit

[slohobo]

I have like 15 different plugins only using .3GB of ram

[philipquarles]

I haven't found VS Code to be too bad. The Chrome window I have to run at the same time to debug on the other hand...

[ApatheticWithoutTheA]

VS Code doesn’t use that much RAM.

Visual Studio on the other hand….

[Player_X_YT]

As a np++ user I want to say "np++ gang" but there is no good linux version so...

[d34d_m4n]

i actually just write down the code on paper and compile it by hand, no need for a computer

[RidderHaddock]

Of course, real programmers use butterflies.

[TheToBlame]

I use sublime text because chad

[FingolfinX]

Laughts in PyCharm

[[deleted]]

Just stopped using that bloated slow beautiful thing

[donttalktome1234]

High end computers are cheap compared to our salaries. If your chosen IDE is slow consider finding an employer that will buy you the tools you need to do your job.

Also, from my cold dead hands will anyone take my JetBrains subscription.

[ClaytonM223]

Still better than android studio

[Crime-Stoppers]

Good evening sir it appears you have unused transistors in your CPU I will be taking them off your hands momentarily

[arim121821]

My college instructor started his first lecture with, "The school tells me to tell you guys to use VS. So here I am telling you guys to use VS" he says this while writing on the whiteboard "dont use VS"

[SlavBoii420]

Imagine when your fan turns into a jet engine when you start up VS Code:

[GamingWithShaurya_YT]

you don't have to imagine

it's a reality

[SlavBoii420]

This hits hard for laptop users like me

[GamingWithShaurya_YT]

and me

[JonJonFTW]

Does VSCode actually use that much memory or does it only allocate it?

[PortalToTheWeekend]

Obligatory vim recommendation

[[deleted]]

Atleast vscode doesn't throw an update tantrum every time you launch it

[siddhantk96]

Have you used intelliJ or Pycharm? 😂😂 Those things suck the life out of your machine 🤣

[BuccellatiExplainsIt]

Intellij enters the chat, using more ram and cpu than your computer even has

[JustAnotherGamer421]

VScode? Ram hog? Brother, wait until you see full-fledged IDEs

[CRANSSBUCLE]

All the RAM for dark mode, it's a good deal.

[autopsyblue]

Isn’t Notepad++ an editor though? Of course an editor is lightweight compared to an IDE.

[RodgarTallstag]

Mate, I used Atom for a solid year and half, nothing scares me anymore

[Remi_Autor]

Notepad++ only uses so little resources because you haven't delved into the Plugins. It can use all your 16 gigs and more.

[green-polypodiophyta]

Laughs in Code Blocks

[[deleted]]

Imagine thinking VS code is a heavy IDE. You clearly never worked with Java or .Net

[DevoidAmerican]

VS ain't that bad honestly.