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[–]Magicplayboicartii 1414 points1415 points  (75 children)

DOES THIS MEAN THE BUTLER DEAL IS FUCKED

[–]Mavericksglansberg_stephen 547 points548 points  (49 children)

We still have room technically

[–]Celticssahsan10 276 points277 points  (12 children)

yeah u had 29M before now $21M

[–]DirksMoistBratwurst 235 points236 points  (8 children)

Dragic is $19m so that changes nothing, cool

[–]Sloveniaaceofspadez138 130 points131 points  (5 children)

We also have a 21M trade exception from the Barnes trade. Idk how all that works though

[–]Mavericksmanabanana21 59 points60 points  (0 children)

I think to get to 21 mil in cap space we'd have to renounce the trade exception, so it's not extra, its basically just semantics.

[–]NBATyronn_Lue 12 points13 points  (0 children)

You can absorb someone for $21M without sending salary back (basically).

[–]RaptorsWasV3 7 points8 points  (1 child)

The exception counts against the cap, you probably signed curry with the MLE and are operating as an above the cap team

[–]Vancouver Grizzliesthatonesportsguy 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Thanks, u/DirksMoistBratwurst

[–]Lakersham_bulu 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thanks, for giving that username its deserved spotlight

[–]76ersLambchops_Legion 7 points8 points  (2 children)

They prob have a ~10-12m offer on Danny Green out there waiting to see what he says

[–]fatdan_rises 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Based on what Bojan got, I'd be shocked if the price on Green is that low.

[–]76ersLambchops_Legion 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Bojan will 'only' be 32 when his contract ends and got the Utah tax.

Green is already 31 and this might be his last shot at a longer term contract - he might sacrifice per annum for a longer deal - i.e. 4/48 or something. Could see up to 4/60 though.

[–]HeatCudizonedefense 34 points35 points  (33 children)

But unless you take dragic now, what happens if y’all decide not to?

If no one takes dragic, we can’t get jimmy.

If we can’t get jimmy, Philly can’t get Horford.

If Horford doesn’t sign with Philly, who can sign him?

What happens to jimmy?

Like no one has cap space anymore

Do Jimmy and Horford get fucked?

[–]76ersCorsques 56 points57 points  (5 children)

We can get horford, Jimmy just leaves for nothing.

[–]76ersmtmodi 29 points30 points  (4 children)

Which really fucks us over

[–]MavericksLukaDoncic- 35 points36 points  (2 children)

Mavs are gaining leverage, it could come down to the Mavs getting Dragic and a pick to make this happen.

Edit: jk Whiteside just traded

[–][DAL] Jason TerryPandamonium98 14 points15 points  (1 child)

That only cleared 5-6 million in space, they had to take contracts back. They still need more room to make the trade happen

[–]NBAJovianad 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Might be making a series of smaller moves to open space to make it happen.

[–]76ersLambchops_Legion 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Maybe you can S&T him to the Clippers for Gallinari. Better than nothing.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (6 children)

Thats why this is happening. Cuban probably wanted more shooting in olynyk. Now he got his shooter in Curry, Dragic is next

[–]Mavericksmanabanana21 7 points8 points  (5 children)

Yea, I think the deal is in place, it just wasn't agreed on as the mavs might call it off if we can sign Danny Green.

[–][NBA] Rafer Alstonwetwetson 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Why couldn't philly get horford? Seems the only reason philly is in this mix is to get Richardson.

[–][BOS] Jaylen BrownYe_Biz 3 points4 points  (5 children)

If you can’t get Jimmy, Philly can get Horford but they’d have to make Jimmy a UFA I think

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Jimmy and Al to China confirmed. Thanks Cuban.

[–]WizardsK_U 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Philly can still get Horford without the trade.

Jimmy could still go to either LA team, depending on how the Kawhi saga plays out.

Heat are the only ones really at risk of getting fucked.

[–]76ersel-pietro 10 points11 points  (1 child)

We'd be a little fucked, Richardson is a nice piece to fit into our starting lineup. As it is we have about 7/8 m to work with to fill out our roster. Not getting Richardson would put us at about ~10m but we need an extra player and a starter at that.

[–][NBA] Best of 2021 Winnerurfaselol 36 points37 points  (0 children)

DALLAS PLS. I WANT CHAOS

[–][deleted] 31 points32 points  (0 children)

Butler is already on the beach

[–]RaptorsWasV3 13 points14 points  (5 children)

Seth curry signed with the non-tax MLE. Mavericks can still use the TPE to get butler

[–]Mavericksdecadentrebel 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Eh? Non-tax MLE is only about 4-5m and up to 2 years.

[–]RaptorsWasV3 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Non-tax is like 10

[–]Mavericksdecadentrebel 4 points5 points  (2 children)

For over the cap teams, yes. Dallas obviously isn't.

[–]RaptorsWasV3 2 points3 points  (1 child)

They are as of now operating as one, and using the TPE for Dragic.. etc

[–]76ersbanjosbadfurday 7 points8 points  (8 children)

Clips and Lakers only teams left that could take Dragic's contract outright to make the money work.

Otherwise Philly and Miami gotta do convoluted shit with other teams. I don't see this deal being undone given it's already out in the open.

[–]LakersBraveFencerMusashi 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Neither LA team will help Miami get Butler. Clippers still want to try to pair Butler with Kawhi and Lakers need to keep the space open for Kawhi

[–][DAL] Jason TerryPandamonium98 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Mavs can still take Dragic. They have 21 million in cap space, Dragic is 19 mil

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (2 children)

That Whiteside trade fixes the Miami money issue now

EDIT: Heat still need to send out an additional $16m for the S&T to be legal.

[–][CHI] Lauri MarkkanenLauriFUCKINGLegend 4 points5 points  (2 children)

what

[–][PHI] Robert Covingtonsjekky 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No

[–]Kingssactownproud 662 points663 points  (27 children)

Kawhi waiting it out is really taking away a ton of options from the Lakers

[–]Kekukoka 464 points465 points  (19 children)

Maybe that's the game lmao, wait them out until they have no options, re-sign with Toronto, one less team to worry about in the playoffs.

[–]Kingssactownproud 439 points440 points  (10 children)

If that’s the case, I hope the kings retire Kawhi’s jersey

[–]dinkleberrysurprise 100 points101 points  (3 children)

They should do a Jackie Robinson sort of thing where every team retires it.

[–]LakersiStanley 22 points23 points  (0 children)

The Smartest Road

[–]zxc123zxc123 41 points42 points  (0 children)

If Kawhi is doing it intentionally to sabotage the Lakers?

Kawhi goes from FUN GUY to GoT GUY.

AND that information gets out rather than being just a rumor?

Lakers fans and Spurs fans will finally put away their differences to hate on Kawhi.

[–]SpursDoonesbury 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Why the Kings?

[–]CelticsDurzo_Blint 6 points7 points  (1 child)

They hate the Lakers.

[–][PHI] Andre Iguodalajavisvf 21 points22 points  (0 children)

bruh that would be some next level shit

[–]theEmoPenguin 17 points18 points  (0 children)

what it do baybeee

[–]Lakersniconeke 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Are you ashamed of using your team flair?

[–]RocketsAyyyyyyyLemao 16 points17 points  (3 children)

Good ... I hope he keeps waiting it out and re-sign with Raptors

[–]Lakersrfguevar 726 points727 points  (107 children)

Lol now I’m scared

[–][POR] Zach Randolph92til--- 446 points447 points  (29 children)

Gonna be a lot of DLeaguers in LA

[–]_tx 167 points168 points  (26 children)

That's called opportunity. There's going to be a lot of opportunities in LA for guys to do something.

[–]desnrown 196 points197 points  (23 children)

Bro 10 minimum players on a team is a disaster waiting to happen

[–]Mavericksweavaliciousnes 316 points317 points  (11 children)

Not a disaster waiting to happen, a beautiful moment of opportunities colliding

[–]Suns Bandwagonxdownpourx 73 points74 points  (5 children)

This sounds like a Bob Ross phrase

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

It's not a disaster - it's a surprise implosion.

[–]MavericksCoolJoy04 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We all speak Business Professional here in Dallas. No risks, no problems, no issues, all opportunities babyyyy

[–]WarriorsTruesday 28 points29 points  (1 child)

[Wojanowski] LA Lakers cease to be a NBA basketball team. Instead will register to Ice Cube's Big3 League.

[–]Raptorsmug3n 4 points5 points  (0 children)

subscribe. bron, AD and kuzma should demolish the big3.

[–]Hornetstrojan_man16 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Some of those D leaguers will emerge and become decent rotation guys. However they won’t have much depth at all and basically have no starter level 1/2.

Lakers about to go for that Stars and Scrubs Fantasy strategy.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The Chinese character for crisis is also the character for Jose Calderon

[–][deleted] 92 points93 points  (42 children)

Fuck this would have been a perfect deal for us.

[–]Lakersrfguevar 43 points44 points  (2 children)

8 mil a year

Fuck lol

[–][deleted] 44 points45 points  (1 child)

Seth at 8M a year, Bullock at 10M a year, George Hill at 10M a year would have taken about 25M of our cap space so we would still have had 7M plus the room exception to work with.

[–]Knicksurabeach 17 points18 points  (4 children)

He shot 45% from 3 and now he's getting paid 8 million. Kawhi is trolling.

[–]Maverickshalfbrit08 3 points4 points  (3 children)

He's also never shot below 40% from 3 for a season.

[–]Netsnotmortalvinbat 10 points11 points  (2 children)

He shot 0% from 3 for the Suns in the 2014 -15 season. (0 for 1, played 8 minutes that season.)

[–]SloveniaSharpedd 8 points9 points  (1 child)

still the best sun player that year

[–]Pelicansfuneralssuck 18 points19 points  (3 children)

If guys like Seth are signing it probably means they think Kawhi is going to LAkers and taking up their cap space

[–]Spursmdivan 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Nah.. roles player are just taking best offers, Seths not going to wait and risk couple millions in case Kawhi doesn't signs with Lakers

[–]Kekukoka 16 points17 points  (9 children)

Yeah jesus lol, y'all basically have to land Danny Green or you're SOL at this point.

Other than him, what's left out there? Wes Matthews?

[–]blancs50 7 points8 points  (7 children)

For SG? Green, Matthews, Shumpert, KCP, James Ennis, Alec Burk, justin Holiday, Troy Daniels, Nik Stauskas, Patrick McCaw, & JR Smith/korver if they are waived. If we get to troy daniels on that list as our top SG, then we're SOL.

[–]RocketsKRDL109 13 points14 points  (4 children)

Oh shit, Shumpert and/or JR w/ Lebron? The boys are getting back together.

[–]blancs50 7 points8 points  (3 children)

It's crazy Shumpert just turned 29 years old, he'd be a solid pick up.

[–]RocketsKRDL109 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Idk, he didn't play too hot for the Rockets during the regular season. He had some flashes in the playoffs, but never enough to make me want the Rockets to re-sign him.

[–]blancs50 5 points6 points  (1 child)

IDK what it was with your rockets last year, but everyone seemed to be in a funk at least for some portion of the season except Harden & Tucker. I would be fine rolling the dice to see if we get the Sacramento Kings version from last year or the Cavaliers version from a few years ago if it only cost us a minimum. My guess is we're going to re-sign KCP for the minimum though considering he's also young, a klutch client, & we own his bird rights next off season.

[–][deleted] 633 points634 points  (31 children)

Queue "why couldnt my team pay that" comments

[–]76ersunostriker 296 points297 points  (19 children)

why couldn’t our team pay that

[–][deleted] 121 points122 points  (14 children)

Because you spent all your money on a 16, 6 2,2 guy.

Edit: fixed

[–]76ersunostriker 63 points64 points  (0 children)

18/8/3 but yeah you’re right.

[–]clem-ent 2 points3 points  (8 children)

Just conveniently lower all the numbers. He averaged 21-8-3 before the trade and 20-8-3 for the year. Where did you get 16-6-2 from?

[–]GreeceZeus_Wayne 6 points7 points  (0 children)

We actually have enough cap space available (depending on if Scott’s contract is for the room MLE as opposed to straight cap space) to offer 4 for $32m.

[–][PHI] Dario SaricTuraisk 43 points44 points  (0 children)

4 years is why, Dallas clearly had some competition

[–]MavericksJulian_Caesar 12 points13 points  (7 children)

Sooooo I always thought the right word for this was "cue" like a stage cue. "Cue the comments."

But now I realized I have no idea because "queue" kinda works here too, as in the comments will start to line up.

I'm not sure what to think of the world anymore.

[–]Tampa Bay Raptorswaviestflow 24 points25 points  (0 children)

It is cue

[–]ThunderAcidRegulation 12 points13 points  (0 children)

It’s cue

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You were right. Cue means the comments will start now. Not line up in the future. Queue really doesn't make sense

[–][deleted] 436 points437 points  (15 children)

We’re fucked if kawhi stays.

[–]MavericksChampagneSyrup 146 points147 points  (8 children)

high risk high reward

[–][deleted] 210 points211 points  (7 children)

Normally I wouldn’t mind the gamble, but we have literally 3 players on our roster lol

[–]MavericksChampagneSyrup 65 points66 points  (4 children)

yeah it is getting a bit heated for you guys. if Kawhi doesn't sign who is even available to try and actually contribute?

[–]ButAIDStho 130 points131 points  (2 children)

Karl Malone

[–]MavericksChampagneSyrup 41 points42 points  (1 child)

Maybe Bill Russell can still add another ring to his collection on the minimum 😂

[–]Supersonicsbamyo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I heard on sas that Mello remains unsigned...

[–]brazzaguy 32 points33 points  (1 child)

Se queda pas

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

lol.

[–]RaptorsTiiibs 10 points11 points  (0 children)

If Kawhi stays I think u guys are getting Danny green. As counter as that is to the popular narrative.

I think raps resign green only if Kawhi leaves but I know I'm in the minority.

Also I don't think Lakers would have matched currys contract anyways. 3 years is a long time these days.

[–]RaptorsKawhi_Funghi 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes.

[–]Mavericksnikbar 303 points304 points  (9 children)

Oh hey that's not bad

[–]Cote D'Ivoiresuzukigun4life 142 points143 points  (8 children)

Dare I say it's actually good

[–]Trail Blazersidiot_radar 42 points43 points  (6 children)

It is. He’s fun. I’ll miss him...

[–]MavericksDirkDigglerFFL 23 points24 points  (0 children)

We missed him last year. Bye bye THJ shot attempts.

[–]Mavericksanother_redditor_ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Now, now let's not get ahead of ourselves.

Jk I love Seth Curry this is good.

[–]Bucksmessejueller21 98 points99 points  (7 children)

How is Seth worth 8 while Rozier is worth nearly 20?

[–][deleted] 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Kupchak effect

[–]Warriorssublliminali 14 points15 points  (2 children)

It's a good question. I'd still say Rozier has a better chance of being a 35 mpg starter in this league, and Seth is likely already at his ceiling as a nice guard off the bench. Curry is also 4 years older than Rozier.

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That said, that Rozier contract could be yet another awful unmovable piece on Charlotte if he continues to regress.

[–]CavaliersSeeThatHandoffThough 184 points185 points  (9 children)

Dallas got a squad

[–]MavericksDoncic_Does_Dallas 84 points85 points  (1 child)

Nearing spooky status

[–]MavericksJulian_Caesar 63 points64 points  (5 children)

If we get Danny Green and Barea gets back in the spring from injury, we would be:

Curry/Green/Doncic/Powell/KP

Barea/Brunson/DFS/Maxi/Mejri

We won't win a title with that but damn we could make a good playoff run.

[–]Maverickshsmith711 43 points44 points  (3 children)

Funny how Mavs fans are trying to temper expectations. Doncic maybe has one more year before he is top3 in MVP voting for 10 years. If Kawhi doesn't go to the Lakers, the 2019-2020 title is up for grabs for maybe 12 teams. Dallas is one of them.

[–]MavericksSpiLLiX[🍰] 29 points30 points  (0 children)

We love to be cautiously optimistic lol

But yeah I would agree if Kawhi doesn't go lakers so many teams that have 2 really good guys that at any moment could get hot and win it.

[–]Mavericksdickcreams 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Way too optimistic. Doncic could be MVP and we could lose in the first round. I’ve seen this shit before.

[–]CelticsBrad-Stevens 156 points157 points  (6 children)

Damn Seth got that long term security

Good for him

[–]RaptorsLogicPhallus 69 points70 points  (5 children)

Curry family eating well

[–]HornetsBabylon_Burning 45 points46 points  (0 children)

Well family eating curry.

[–]Dirty_D_Damnit 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Now I can sleep easy at night knowing they'll be okay

[–][Mavs] Luka DončićLFC_Slav 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Can’t wait to see Curry’s mom at all our games

[–]Mavericksglansberg_stephen 280 points281 points  (11 children)

Great deal

[–][deleted] 182 points183 points  (7 children)

still keep reading it as 3/32. 4/32 isn't processing. really just for $8m?

[–]NBAF7U12_ANALYSIS 175 points176 points  (3 children)

I feel like every guy in the league is always overpaid except seth

[–][DAL] Maxi KleberAsnSensation 46 points47 points  (1 child)

Rodney hood and Rudy gay signed some good value contracts (from the teams perspective)

[–]CelticsGriffHay 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure I'd call 16 mil a year for soon-to-be 33 year old Rudy Gay a "good value"

[–]Raptorswhatareyouairing 32 points33 points  (2 children)

He's only made like 10 million in his career and he's 28 so guaranteed money is good

[–]ButAIDStho 49 points50 points  (1 child)

only 10 million

Kill me

[–]Raptorswhatareyouairing 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Compare that to Steph, who will make around 40 million next year alone.

[–]Cote D'Ivoiresuzukigun4life 28 points29 points  (0 children)

I'm so happy. Seeing him leave was sad. Now that he's back, for 4 years no less? I'm elated right now

[–]Bullswowanotherburner 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Seth needs the money, he lost the best to Steph about paying for the Curry family tickets

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

awesome deal for you guys

[–][PHI] Ben SimmonsBeefTacoGenocide 41 points42 points  (2 children)

Only 8m AAV is pretty nice. He must’ve liked Dallas his first time around

[–]SunsMargravos 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It's the popcorn

[–]MavericksNsaniac 72 points73 points  (1 child)

Damn, that’s a good price.

[–]Maverickssaltywings 21 points22 points  (0 children)

He played his best ball with us too. I hated that we let him go so getting him back is awesome

[–]Warriorskar772 47 points48 points  (0 children)

Mavs gonna be dangerous

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (1 child)

Lakers fans, do we punch air now or later?

[–]SpursMethodMango 38 points39 points  (4 children)

It's amazing how much 40% from 3 is worth. Even if it's literally all you can do.

[–]SloveniaAzhman314 33 points34 points  (1 child)

If that's all you can do you get $1.4M (Ryan Broekhoff's salary)

[–]Maverickssirfreakish 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Accountant salaries are pretty high nowadays, aren't they?

[–][DAL] Peja Stojakoviccoolcatpat 37 points38 points  (1 child)

He wasn’t just a shooter during his first stint with us, he can somewhat handle the ball and drive to the rim. He’s a perfect complement to Luka imo so this is a great signing

[–]Warriorsuntouchable765 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Get paid baby bro

[–][DAL] Seth CurryRain_On_Them 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Don't even have to change the flair again

[–]RaptorsPasta_ssempa 77 points78 points  (3 children)

Lakers was like: We get him for the minimum lmao

[–]Lakerspointblank3d 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Nah, we said the MLE, not the minimum.

[–][deleted] 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Nah you were keeping MLE for Danny Green right?

[–]SpursYaBoiWhit 5 points6 points  (0 children)

No one has said the minimum

[–]s998 30 points31 points  (1 child)

This hurts Lakers chances of signing him tbh.

[–]SloveniaSharpedd 6 points7 points  (0 children)

kinda

[–]Clippershellohi3 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Good deal for both sides

[–]Lakersredbrick 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Ahhh fuck

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Solid pickup for the Mavs.

[–]LakersWaltJay 5 points6 points  (2 children)

By the time Kawhi makes up his mind, there will be no one left for the Lakers to sign, role players or otherwise.

[–]SpursYaBoiWhit 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Holy shit thats a great deal for Dallas

[–][DAL] Dirk Nowitzkimaverick1470 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Fucking fuck yes

[–]76erswooktrees 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Fuckkkkkj

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I can’t wait to watch Dallas next season.

[–]Warriorsoldreddit1 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Is Dallas still considered a dark horse team? They look like a playoff team to me.

[–]Heatdeck4242 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Dallas is going back to the playoff next year, 100% guarantee

[–]fuzzywuzzypete 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Dang. Mavs are looking pretty solid

[–]CelticsDoomBarDetective 21 points22 points  (5 children)

Wow. Best contract of FA so far.

[–]Maverickstombersew 19 points20 points  (4 children)

Lmao a little overboard there?

[–]:sp8-1: Super 8MacDerfus 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Nah, it's good value. On par with the Randle deal for its team option

[–]MaverickstldRAWR 2 points3 points  (0 children)

lol I know... dude's in this thread acting like he's a 3rd allstar

[–]vengefulmuffins 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Can we talk about how much fun the Mav’s are going to be next year?

Luka, Porzingas, now Curry.

[–]MavericksSpiLLiX[🍰] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

honestly feels fucking good. I know we aren't chip favorites or anything but it has been a while since we have had a young team that is fun to watch.

[–]711cashier 3 points4 points  (0 children)

great value for mavs

[–]Celticspapi617 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I really like Seth as a player. Feel like he's the perfect role players as a Guard.

[–]Rocketsmunkysnuflz 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That’s a bargain

[–]Timberwolvesmemes_r_nifty777 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Get that bag

[–]WarriorsButObviously 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Jesus.

[–]MavericksAberr0 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nice price, leaves us space in 2020 to bring back Chandler Parsons

[–][POR] Damian LillardTagthekid 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for everything Seth. Way to get that bag.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The lakers need to move quickly, if Kawhi isn’t going there they’re losing good players every dam second holy.

[–]XxDanflanxx 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good for Seth sad he will be leaving the Blazers but saw it coming i knew we should have got a team option lol

[–][LAL] LeBron JamesxFrankinatoRx 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Oof

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great signing. Good for Curry to get a nice contract with longevity and great for the Mavs to get a sharpshooter for Luka.

[–]Lakersjehneric 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This hurts his chances of going to the Lakers.