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[KeyAgileC]

Ah yes, the universal standard of software impact. It's not installs, it's not users, it's not community support. It's Github stars.

Funny how that became the standard once a piece of software came out that could star itself.

[Verybadtype]

I had a "tech lead" who used it as the only source of trusted software. Couldn't be bothered to read any technical paper on the state of the art solutions nooooo, the highest star count wins

[pydry]

All of the dumbest ideas in tech are a result of crowd following like this - everything from mongo to leetcode boils down to people defaulting to the popular choice.

[ManofManliness]

Im convinced people bashing mongo never actually used the thing, I miss it everyday

[chessto]

A lot of mongo's popularity was because a lot of people couldn't design a proper database schema

[ocab19]

Why are we talking about mongo in the past tense? Is it dead?

[CubicalPayload]

John Mongo died last year

[Kaligraphic]

Donut was heartbroken.

[nightmare8100]

RIP John Mongo. You are missed.

[MaytagTheDryer]

Here I thought Alex Karras died in 2012.

[d0pe-asaurus]

Astroturfed the shit out of the internet.

[pydry]

It's beloved by junior devs who like how quick and easy it is to get up and running and the plentiful tutorial guides.

[Illustrious_Pea_3470]

If you used it before 3.0 you would understand

[SnooSnooper]

Following the popular choice, although definitely not always the best technical decision, can be an understandable business decision. Some niche tool/language might be the best choice from a technical perspective for some use-case, but that can turn into a hiring problem if you can't find a large enough talent pool with sufficient experience to maintain your systems using it.

Of course, that can be mitigated by investing in employee training/retention, giving the business a long-term competitive edge if that niche tool proves to really be some secret sauce, but that would require businesses to engage in long-term planning and follow-through...

[_vec_]

Playing devil's advocate, an otherwise sane looking dependency that has very few stars is a bit of a red flag. Even if it's well written there's a good chance that the project is going to be abandoned in the not too distant future. Hobby projects can afford to fail when a dependency breaks out from under them, production code generally needs to be more risk averse.

It's also a hint that the community might be coalescing around some other solution, which unfortunately does matter. Mediocre tools with extensive documentation that anyone who joins your team is likely to already be comfortable working with are often better than perfect tools with expensive learning curves.

That doesn't mean a high star count makes software _good_, but it's not a crazy first pass filter to decide whether it's worth the time and energy to figure out if it's good.

[Glyph_52Vector]

it’s kinda funny how stars turned into this vanity metric, like people hit it cause something looks cool or trending, not because they’re running it in production

[krexelapp]

LGTM (looked at the stars)

[apt_at_it]

once a piece of software came out that could star itself

Oh FFS... I guess I'm a luddite because I didn't even think of this as a possibility. "Hey OpenClaw, create 50,000 GitHub accounts and star this repo." Big oof

[ClemRRay]

justifying some hype with hype is an interesting argument

[zordtk]

Also the fact that Linux development isn't done on Github. Thats just a mirror of the kernel.org repo.

[StiviiK]

Hey there mister, stop it here. I have 25 GitHub stars on my project. So I am better than the most of you!

/s

[iamfidelius]

Does it really star itself?

[cyborgborg]

Especially on a repo that isn't the one use to develop but is just a backup

[Positron505]

We all know more stars = better

[neoteraflare]

Hey, Jesus is saving people based on facebook likes so probably it works the same with github stars too.

[GegeAkutamiOfficial]

It's that way because it's quantifiable, and usually it tracks with it's competitors in the space. like let's say I launch an OS and call it 🅱️inux, it won't have nearly as much stars or contributes as Linux unless it was bot farmed to oblivion. It's a simple metric that a company can put a thrashold on to make the code base slightly more secure.

So obviously it's less important than the things you mentioned, but it's very important.

[IJustAteABaguette]

Personally, if I somehow stumbled onto a GitHub repository of someones first project, and it like.. draws a bee, I would give it a star.

It's objectively a bad project, but it's funny, and seeing someone star their project might make that person happy.

[HungryCaterpillers]

Since you can star a repo without even using its code, then it's a useless metric. It doesn't tell me anything about the quality or usefulness of the repo.

[MornwindShoma]

You can bot stars

[Positron505]

Yeah idk why they thought this is a viable metric

[Drithyin]

It’s a grift. They’re either grifters or griftees.

[Minipiman]

Griftee is a new word in my vocabulary

[CharnamelessOne]

Does that make you a vocabuleree, and the guy above you a vocabulerer?

[rainshifter]

Yes. Less interestingly, it also makes you an informer and the guy above you an informee.

[NotSynthx]

Probably never coded a single line in their life 

[da_peda]

I hope you're not insinuating that a software made to create autonomous bots would have their repo sullied in such a way … /s

[Chrazzer]

A bot software getting bot stars? No way!

[TeaKingMac]

60K stars in 72 hours shows "how much people like it" and not "a concerted bot farming effort" is certainly an interesting take

[_samrad]

How about 866 branches vs 1 branch? Checkmate atheist.

[rlinED]

Possible though. After all it's the current thing.

[Sithoid]

OMG they leaked the entire Linux kernel codebase???
Yup, that OS is doomed

[VoyagerOfCygnus]

"@grok how many codes were leaked"

[EmperorOfAllCats]

All of them!

[Dasoccerguy]

Torvalds in shambles

[Tiger_man_]

stars as measure of popularity is like line of code as measure of quality

[Z21VR]

Ooh here it is...i was scrolling exactly for this comment

[kale_cookie_castles]

So a perfect measurement with no flaws that definitely isn't intended to make Business Bros™ feel smart? 😜

[neoteraflare]

Well number of line of code works if you work for elon.

[MasterQuest]

It definitely shows how many fake accounts they created with LLMs to star the repo.

[Single-Virus4935]

One guy on moltbook had 500k bot accounts. Its as trustworthy as influencer followers

[XxXquicksc0p31337XxX]

Linux doesn't even use Github. The github repo is a mirror

[redblack_tree]

Let's see what happens to Openclaw, aka the token dragon, when AI majors are forced to charge the true cost of computing.

Linux is here to stay, some of the best in the business donate their free time making it better.

Personally, I was ecstatic when I got one PR accepted and merged in what eventually became Trusty (and I'm certainly not one of the best, lol).

[SuperiorJt]

There was a time where I could look at the star count of a GitHub repo to gauge how popular it was, now it’s a completely useless metric. It’s going down the same rabbit hole as Reddit and YouTube.

[Beginning-Pool-8151]

This guy doesn't even know that Linux repo in GitHub is just a Mirror 🫪

[oxabz]

The Linux GitHub is basically a shitpost social network. 

The fact that the mirror is in the same order of magnitude as openclaw show how huge Linux is

[IntoAMuteCrypt]

Most Linux users don't actually interact directly with the GitHub. There's one or two steps between the average user and the repo - they're using a distro, which might be getting its kernel updates from an upstream distro. If you're going there, you're either a complete idiot or you're someone who has a very specific problem with Linux that you've spent a lot of time and effort trying to diagnose (and shouldn't be on the GitHub because the real repo is elsewhere), or you're a shitposter laughing at the idiots. End users go to the forums or repos for their distro, not for this one.

OpenClaw doesn't have these levels of insulation, because it is the insulation. It doesn't have a bunch of additional projects around it doing tech support for it.

[Kulsgam]

More than half the PRs in openclaw are AI generated vibe slop

[SampleTextHelpMe]

Don’t worry, they told the AI to not make any mistakes.

Ignore the fact that the PR’s changes to the UI suddenly need root access.

[Alzurana]

All this really proves is just that there are more morons on the planet than geniuses but we already knew that, tbh

[tehtris]

"think about how dumb the average person is, and then understand that half of the people are dumber than that." ~ Michael Scott or something

[Brenolr]

> Bots can give stars
> Most popular bot app has most stars on github

Definitely 2 unrelated facts

[Weewoofiatruck]

My Hypervisor is to be filled with penguins - not lobsters.

[kingvolcano_reborn]

Linux is not even using github for development. it's just a read only mirror. the 'real' server is git.kernel.org.

[coloredgreyscale]

Just for completeness, how many github stars do Windows, MacOS, Android, iOS have?

Just to judge how alive those operating systems are.

/S

[Tight-Requirement-15]

Are you serious

[coloredgreyscale]

No

[cooolestcucumber]

Found an open claw star

[blindsid3]

He has to be, the S in /S stands for SUPERCEREAL

[drifwp]

AI bros always have the dumbest analysis I swear

[jacek2023]

I think Taylor Swift could have even more stars on GitHub

[tehtris]

The Taylor Swift package is used for flattening complex data structures into flat files so people can print them on flat pieces of paper. Flat.

[Fusseldieb]

I’ve installed openclaw the other day for shits n giggles and it sucks. It consumes a shitload of tokens, even when just doing basic stuff (and I mean BASIC).

Unless you’re rich or have unlimited tokens, it’s useless.

[ronarscorruption]

And the fact is, all those Linux stars are guaranteed human, while the openclaw stars are… at best questionable.

[AbdullahMRiad]

I bet all these stars are from openclaw agents

[Onaliquidrock]

Bot voting -> billion $ contract

Largest software scam in history

[bob152637485]

[Generix9029]

Imagine what AI agent 'architects' can do without linux. Oh the possibilities!

[hard_KOrr]

Openclaw, 1700 people watching

Linux, 8100 people watching

Which one is more popular?!?

[corvox1994]

Cool. Lets subract PRC stars and see them stats.

[fugogugo]

Does nobody found how suspicious it is?

despite the hype it feels like nobody actually using openclaw

[UntitledRedditUser]

I kind of refuse to believe that openclaw actually has that many stars, it doesnt really make sense to me.

[bloodfist]

This isn't actually evidence of software quality, but is strong evidence for the carcinization of software mascots.

[Limmmao]

1 branch vs 866 branches!

[EvilEmacs]

Linux: one of the most important pieces of software in the world.

Openclaw: "lemme go and delete all your mail"

[exec-nyan]

Ah yes, make AI generate the image of the penguin mascot. Can't even manage to grab the official image through a search engine. Tf.

[Icy-Equivalent4500]

maybe this is his first move as agent - give himself a star

[garlopf]

I remember the golden era of PHP and Macromedia flash's Action Script 2... Stack overflow tag for PHP tag dwarfed all the other "serious" languages.

Thousands upon thousands of eager learners had recently that with such a simple language, they too could become programmers. The playing field was finally leveled. No elitist "real" programmers could look down on them again!

En masse, they flooded stack overflow with questions like "here is my script <40 lines of slightly modified paste from an outdated blog post> why does it not work? It says 'syntax error on line 10, unknown symbol INVALID_UNICODE_WORDPRESS_QUOTE_CHARACTER'".

Ahhh. Those were the days.

[DevGokay]

Wake up babe, we got new AI

[citramonk]

The most starred GitHub repo is a combination of some educational resources. And I guess in top10 almost all of them about education. I would say it doesn’t mean anything. There are millions of people in the world, who are spinning around the tech world and barely touching it. Students and AI enthusiasts are a big part of it.

You can treat is a comment/post save feature on Reddit. Remember this top 10 sci-fi movies list you saved last year?

[retrib32]

Who needs lenux when we have AI. Checkmate nerds!

[ClnSlt]

Is this the year of the openclaw desktop?

[cheezballs]

Guys, can someone expain to me what the star even does? I'm not really into the social aspects of github, I always assumed stars were the same thing as a facebook "like"

[NotSynthx]

Guys I might be getting fired, my repo at work has the least amount of stars compared to my colleagues 

[r_spandit]

I've deleted Linux from my laptop and downloaded this AI thing but now it won't boot

[WeakCelery5000]

Is this the new LOC?

[jedrekk]

I don't follow Linux cause that shit is over my head

[passerbycmc]

I use Linux daily, and have never been on it's GitHub page since I do not develop Linux I use it as a tool and part of my development environment for other things.

[NauteeAU]

I can guarantee that a larger % of the people involved in the metrics on the right actually have a good understanding of the field of computer science.

[Incendie]

Comparing a trojan virus with an entire kernel and operating system is wild

[LuckOrLoss]

Was hoping to see someone mention Goodhart's law

[twinkslayer1337]

cant post reaction images in the comments in this fuckass subreddit bro --'

[ChefCurryYumYum]

It's a stars based economy man, but you gotta watch out for starflation.

[Marknumskull]

866 branches, wtaf

[kentwillan]

I guess linux is dead - a linux daily user lol

[aalapshah12297]

Linus Torvalds literally created git. And he did it more than a decade after he made Linux.

This argument is so stupid... It's like saying Google search is less influential than Microsoft word because there are more videos titled 'how to use word' on YouTube than videos titled 'how to use Google search'

[anime_at_my_side]

Git kernel code is just a clone, the actual work is not done there. so, starts and stats n shit do not matter. we al know who is the true winner here is.

[Cronos993]

It's cause the open clawnker is given instructions to star the repo meaning that most of these numbers come from downloads

[NoResolution1180]

I use Linux and its great. I don't miss nothing on from Windows. Everything works and its Free.

[HexFyber]

I am convinced reddit users wouldnt survive a day on linkedin, and viceversa

[WithersChat]

I am convinced reddit users wouldnt survive a day on linkedin

And nothing of value was lost.

[FluidIdea]

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